I think it's because it can be a grey area. While this is blatant parentification, where do you define the line between helping your fam and parentification? To write a law you have to define it in black and white. Situations differ. I definitely agree a law should be written, but how would you write such a law would be the question? Edit: I'm not a law maker but to my knowledge there's often supposed to be measurable/definable parameters. Somebody should definitely work on this but tbh right now the people in charge of lawmaking right now happen to be the same generation that don't see a problem with parentification.
@@Gabbz737NEW Making your child give up their future to do your job as a parent is easily identifiable, and vastly different than having your kid help every now and then, without compromising their academic life.
@@Gabbz737NEWidk if you’ve noticed but there are so many laws that aren’t written in complete black and white most have gray areas hence the reason for lawyers. The law should be written to protect minors from parentification which would be any amount of care a child is required to give a sibling because of a parent that would harm the original child. And the law already defines harmful acts as anything that is bodily harm, mental harm, emotional harm, or any form of societal harm. So the law could be written but no one in the generation in control wants to do that.
Those family members telling OP to accept duties in the family and suck it, need to step up, accept their duties in the family and suck it up by pulling their weight and looking after OP’s brother.
Went through that shit with moms side of the family they all have the mindset that you should go over to your grandparents and help them ALL DAY AND HAVE NO LIFE OR STAY THE NIGHT AT ANYBODYS BUT THE GRANDPARENTS literally only one cousin and his family disagreed we were the only grandchildren which made it even worse literally the old hag convinced mom to move back here DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE DIAGONALLY to be exact just so she could spy on us heck she wanted mom to drop me off at 13 years old while mom went to the grocery store to her house and how far was the store? It's about 5-10 minutes away even as an adult when she was dying she told my mom the only way I could stay in the stupid will was if I was over there everyday LITERALLY THIS IS WHAT MOM TOLD ME NOT MOM'S STUPID SIBLINGS WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRITING OUT by that point I was going through alot of stuff MAINLY caused by that side of the family plus the affect of being bullied by them and the kids from school for years I had graduated by that point was finally hitting me hard to the point I barely left the house or even my room I think I suffered some kind of depression or my emotions were finally breaking down I don't know I barely even made it to her funeral well I was forced to go to it
I think parents go telling the relatives an isolated incident, or few, NOTHING else, and frame it as there were dire reasons they politely asked, sibling blew up, was nasty, never helped, and this was just a small tiny, short thing
In a way, the ex-wife did forgive OP, as in "letting go of her anger of him". However, the trust is still gone, and without trust, there can't be a relationship.
Yeah, letting go of it and moving on is the actual act of forgiveness, even if you'll never admit it to them or even yourself. People think it means no longer being mad about it, it just means you've gotten whatever closure and recovery you need to be able to walk away from it.
He should've worked his problems with his wife not with his family he is a man child, and you can't repair that in short while there are probably many more things wrong with him that even he himself doesn't see. I hope he grows out of it, he seems to be on the way out of that abusive mind prison.
@@denis3208 The first step is recognizing the pathology around you, which he has. The second step is doing something about it, in this case a therapist. But that first step is REALLY hard, because this behavior has been normalized by his father and brothers all his life.
I like what the wife said. Forgiveness is overrated, especially when the perpetrator is not asking for it. That invites doormat behavior. I say, understand and move on, meaning you understand why they did what they did and have moved past it. It does NOT mean that you have accepted the behavior in any way.
I know a family like that they are outcasts in a village, son brought a Roma bride home to marry and father then slept with her then they threw her out. I don't know much else about it because I was never friends with them just said hallo in passing and I used to live there 30 years ago ...
Story 2: Even though he was emotionally abused, you still can’t deny how much he ruined what could’ve been between him and such an graceful woman. I mean, a lot of exes don’t usually get the chance at such conversations with the person who left them, so I hope he realizes how much he lost due to his naïveté. At the same time though, I’m glad he’s putting a step forward in a positive direction, and I hope he continues through that path. It may not be easy, but it’ll definitely make him ready for any other relationships to come.
She probably could see the signs that it was his family manipulating him, but at the end of the day she lived with him and spoke to him, not them. He was the one who said the hurtful things to her and drove her away. Him coming back and saying "surprise, i was being controlled by someone else like a puppet," would be hardly believable and he definitely does not deserve a second chance with the same woman. What he deserves is a second chance not to screw up his next relationship.
Story 2: Coming from an abusive family myself, I understand that second chances aren't always given (even if efforts have been made to get better) and that's okay. I'm glad he's moving forward and getting better; God knows that sh*t ain't easy. Hopefully, he finds someone else to be happy with. Best of luck to him.
This literally happened to my husband but it was much worse. His mother remarried and had another baby when he was 14. She lied to the government and claimed he was being home schooled but then didn’t follow up with the home schooling and instead just worked those hours while dumping her daughter into him. She justified this by paying him $30 a week saying she was paying him and that somehow made it okay. lol When he turned 18 he politely asked his mother to make arrangements for his little sister so he could get a job to save up and move out. His mother started sobbing hysterically and accused him of betraying his family. The next day he came home from job seeking and all his stuff including his computer were scattered on the lawn in the rain. His entire family took her side. It was her word against his. I think this is the only situation I’ve ever witnessed where a parent was angry that their child wanted to work. It was really strange. His grandparents then started watching his sister full time. She only saw her parents once a week. I’m not sure what his mother was expecting. That he would just live with them for the next 18 years to parent her child? Not his fault. She should have worn a condom! Oh well. She also called me a snake for poisoning him against her for pointing out to him that what his mother was doing was kind of screwed up.
That happened with both grandparents on my fathers side...though one was entirely due to other things, but my grandmothers parents decided that since she was the oldest girl, she couldn't go to school over it despite a lot of other things at the time. Her father was a drunken mess, and her mother was a nightmare that there were a lot of other horror stories about
Story 1 : Yeah, I feel that! It's crazy how some parents can be so self-centered, you know? But hey, major props to this girl for standing her ground and choosing her own happiness. 🙌 She's doing her thing and deserves all the positive vibes in the world. ✨
It’s so nice to see the kid in story 1 to be at her grandmothers actually being a kid, and not a parent to her brother. Knowing that she was running around with friends outside, swimming, and just hanging out being a kid is so nice honestly. People who parentify their kids are complete and utter useless assholes.
"Brat" is a bit much for the kid. The kid is pretty much a victim of the parents, too - conditioned by the constant presence of an unwilling caretaker to the point where they can't handle life without them is pretty cruddy.
If the father gets divorced and full custody of Matt, then I imagine the daughter could move in with him and be a family again. The problem was always the mom
Really hoping OP’s dad is able to get full custody of Matt because I am 100% convinced OP’s egg donor would absolutely fill his little head with all kinds of lies about OP and turn him against her
So mom works in the business district from 4:30am to 10 or 11 PM every day, dad works every day, and they couldn't afford a sitter until after they estranged their daughter? Great parents, Matt is going to be a real peach.
This is why you get security and self defense tools. A taser, a gun, pepper spray, its all about getting them to realize the cost of trying to get you is more expensive than leaving you alone.
For the second story: my heart just breaks for that man. He literally lost everyone in his life, even though it was necessary for his survival and happiness. But I do understand his ex wife’s position. Some thing you just can’t forgive, even if you love someone. Sometimes loving someone makes it even harder to forgive them for doing something to hurt you.
Ops duty is to go to school, do chores (if they have any), and watch their brother. They aren't a parent to the brother. They aren't a free babysitter. It's the parent's duty to care for both children not force the older sibling to parent. The mom doesn't deserve either children or the father.
He's been manipulated his whole life, so yeah, it makes sense he was easy to manipulate. Luckily with therapy and getting out of that environment he'll do better and grow. I feel sorry for him, because he's going to feel very lonely, and will probably feel the urge to suck it up and go back to his shitty family and "friends".
NTA. I suggest you take a class for self-defense. I'm not telling you to kick your mom's butt. They can teach you how to break away from someone grabbing you or holding on to you. Also, in case your mom brings a buddy along you need to be able to get away. Which could happen if your dad ends up divorcing your mom over this. If you're thinking about what if this happens, or that happens, then start researching for solutions. Good luck
I truly don't think mom was working more overtime. I think she was out socializing. She left her daughter at home with her responsibility. Lost her sh*t when she had to come home and be a parent to her own kid.
I will never understand why parents think it's the oldest child's responsibility to also take care of their younger siblings they did not ask to be here or ask for their siblings to be here you got to look in the mirror at yourself for bringing multiple kids in this world rather than your oldest
Acting as your younger sibling/s third parent is 100% not “the family duty” of an older sibling, screw the mom for trying to parentify OP and screw the family members that are enabling this
I think the dad was being bullshitted from the mom. It actually seems he cared for his daughter more than he let's on. Seems the mom was the one that was making Op look like a evil sister
the fact that this family can afford to speak through attorneys and hire security for birthday parties means they are not poor enough to require their child to be a full-time babysitter.
Everyone saying OP is easy to manipulate are being pretty inconsiderate of the fact that literally all his family and friends were in on the manipulation campaign, and it sounds from the update like he had been broken into that by them through a long term abusive relationship. Yeah he fucked up royal, but I seriously doubt most people would flip the script when literally everyone is secretly against you and in cahoots over it. "It's not paranoia if everyone is actually out to get you, but that doesn't stop you from looking like a paranoid freak either way if you act out over it."
Okay, I’m gonna stop over here at 2:50 they literally saying you should do it as your job just asked them to come take care of him the whole day and they’ll see how hard it is
@@throwergirl966It's because that's not a person but an AI speaker. And since whoever uploaded the post didn't spell out male the abbreviated word for meter is M.
@@TheDevourer28 It's still hilarious that his ex friends and family are giants, I read comment that said the tallest one tripped over the smallest one and fell on top of them. Lol! 🤣
Yeah that’s what I keep saying. His ex wife did forgive him, but barred the chance of reconciliation. Forgiveness is simply not holding a grudge, but by no means should you go back to the before times like you didn’t learn anything. Like I forgave my ex-wife and her affair partner, who was a friend of mine, but I never want to see him again.
Yes didn’t deserve to be treated like that , but dude straight up believed ASSUMPTIONS made by his so called “family” MULTIPLE TIMES . Didn’t even try to defend his wife or at least try to look at the matters himself. He destroyed his own relationship by being so naive and vulnerable to manipulation. I’m glad to see that he’s matured and is now working on himself to become better.
Sounds to me like he emotionally abused his wife for years. Yes his friends and family planted the idea in his mind, but they're not the ones who mistreated his wife, he did. I do absolutely feel bad for him, he didn't deserve the treatment he got from the men in his life, but he isn't totally blameless. In this case, his support network wasn't doing him any good, and it's a good thing for it to be destroyed. It's better to be alone than surrounded by poison. As bitter a pill as that is.
@alext9320 this situation is just horrible all around. The wife absolutely didn't deserve how she was treated by OP and he did not deserve to be manipulated so vilely by his family. Yes, he is at fault for not thinking for himself and doing that. But he sounds like he was heavily reliant on his family well before and they took advantage of that trust. Hopefully the two of them will make better lives now that they are apart.
Story 02, I saw it happens many times, friends ruins their friend marriage because they are jealous, most the times the husband stay delusional, ruin his marriage and never knew their intentions.
Story 2 is pretty nuts, Usually I'm very much of ah slink back and just accept abuse kinda guy but really don't think I could handle it from family and would be going to jail if family member made that type of confession to me.
God. Nta. I cant fathom how people can do this. My eldest is 13, my youngest is 2. I'll ask my eldest to sit with my youngest for 10 minutes while i hang out clothes or something but never would i be telling him to do anything like what those parents did. I know what thats like. Uts not ok
story 1: the mom is just straight up brainless and somehow thinks forcing a kid to drop out of school to babysit thier brother unpaid is a lack of loyalty story 2: ggiachad ex wife for being so understanding.if all goes well,your ex might change the fact that she doesnt forgive you!its just a maybe,not garuntee
Planned or accident, its primarily its parents duty ehen comes the elder sibling's duty. Duty to younger sibling is one thing and forcing them to do parental duties is another.
sometimes people have one person they unload everything onto and when that person leaves their life they start treating others they used to be nice to just as badly. I'm not surprised OP's absence led to dad getting the brunt of the treatment and wanting to leave.
OP (from Story 1): Oh my God! She found me! I don't know how, but she found me. Run for it, Marty!! Marty: Who? Who? OP: Who do you think?! MY MOTHER!! Marty: HOLY SH*T!!
At first, it sounded about what family should do during a major change, adapt together and work together while things are a shit show. Like when a mom first goes back to work after a maternity leave. But this quickly became parentification, which is no es bueno unless the older kid is actually the parent and is going to be taking over full time duties after graduating high school... but even then you have to make sure they can finish school and better their life before heaving their actual child on them full time. This is disgusting, and may CPS have no mercy on the parents.
Once more kids ARE NOT PARENTS FOR THE YOUNGER ONES! You wanna have more kids fine but their watch and care are the PARENTS responsibility not children.
I think a lot of the time people get the meaning of the word forgive confused How the wife in The second story said she doesn't forgive him but she doesn't have any grudges, those are oxymorons Forgiveness is what she was doing, not holding grudges and wanting the best for him You can forgive someone and still kick them out of your life. That's exactly what she did and I give her props for being able to forgive the man Not forgive him as in she's going to give him another chance but forgive him in the sense that she doesn't hate him
Ex in story 2: uhhhh... you are easily swayed by everyone. you wont last 3 months staying NC with your family and then I would be stuck with them trying to sleep with me for the rest of my life. Of course I'm not getting back together with you.
Story 1: For certain family members telling OP to "accept the duties in the family and suck it up" those are the ones that they can go F'off and go NC with them, because they don't even know full crap of what OP has been going through, but i wanna see if those family members who said that to OP would be on OP's shoes and feel the same treatment like OP did and they can all "suck it up" Story 2: i can't simply believe the kind of mentality these idiots had for ruin OP's marriage, i would've gone full on scortch earth in all of them!! 😤😤
On the story one. As the older sibling that helped raise my sister specially after my dad passed when she was a children still, I understand that is kinda our duty help or at least be a good example, but we can't become parents at such Young age specially having studies snd stuff. Dads understand its. But mom its ridiculous entitled and cheap 😢
I am 99.999% sure that her mum was cheating she used op as her replacement in the house and then suddenly op rebelled and ran away she couldn't accept the fact she had to cut off the time with her AP and going psycho....All the narcissists doesn't care about the people who love them it makes sense
Guys why do you watch these videos? They clearly exist to promote drama and make you angry. Its not healthy, take a break. Also, how can you be sure these stories are real?
I don’t really believe they are real (and even if they are they don’t affect me and there is no way to tell how much and how little is told in OP’s favour honestly) nor do they make me feel angry. It’s kind of like watching a soap opera on tv I guess. Lol I’m sure some people do get angry though and yeah they should definitely watch something else of that is the case.
Lol The same reason people watch dramas or sad stuff or comedies. Or like those people who get super worked up over sports! The ones who'd flip a table if their team lost. They want to feel whatever it is and use these things to achieve that - want to feel flustered and giggly? Watch a RomCom! Want to gasp in shock and feel scared? Watch a Thriller! And so on and so forth. Plus, yeah? Of course most of these stories are fake, most things on the internet are fake. You can't prove it's real, but you really can't prove it's not either, it's the way of the web man
People watch soap operas to get an emotional workout. A skilled team of writers can make you experience each of the seven deadly sins in the course a half-hour episode. The stories don't have to be real.
Narcissistic parents are the absolute worst. My gf ex husband put chemicals in their daughter’s hair to give it a perm. She 8 and didn’t want it. She came home with chemical burns on her face. We had to go to court to have an order stating he can’t put chemicals in her hair anymore. The next weekend he had her him , his mother and his new gf sat her down and made her make a video saying it was the checmicals he puts in her hair. But the children’s hair dye that we put in for her Halloween costume months before. The same dye 80% of her school uses. And preceded to sent the video to my gfs lawyer. Not his own. And state that it’s my gfs fault and not his.
I'm calling bullshit on the second story: "Hey Honey, you know your toxic father, brother and friends, all of whom have been a negative influence on your life and have done nothing but demean and lower you? They've all tried to make a pass at me." Seriously?
yeah if that is real their marital communication is garbage and they weren’t going to last anyways. Why wouldn’t the wife tell her husband about the inappropriate behaviour?
@@BrightElk, It sounded to me that they went after her once they separated/divorced. In which case, why tell him, since he thought she was a cheater anyway. Just tell the pervs no, and get away from them.
You’re clearly not a parent if you’re comparing the sleep exhaustion you feel when raising a child to the sleep exhaustion you feel when you actively choose to stay up watching youtube videos passed midnight. 😂😂😂
Story 2: The not forgiving thing was a bit odd and I don’t mean not forgiving him. I mean in general also in a way it seems like she kinda forgave him they just aren’t calling it that. But she seems like she has her principles won’t get with any of her exes friends refuse to forgive you can respect that dedication to one’s own principles.
Being over 60 I have seen how a pregnancy can change a woman, temporarily or permanently. Sounds like after you brother was conceived and born is when everything changed. In old school the older child helped, almost to the point of raising, with the younger children. Times have changed that. Look up narcissist and your mother is showing all characteristics of it. Maybe it was always there since her own mother went NC. Hope you try to get scholarships because you sound extraordinary. Good luck and hope you and your dad repair your relationship.
Forgiveness is a tricky thing. You may never forgive the actions and the person they were, however, it sounds very much like OP, and his ex are in a much better place than they were. I would not be surprised if, after much-needed therapy, she told him that she does forgive him just not the actions he took. Forgiveness is not guaranteed and is only given when your actions change is usually saved as a comment for people who are not seeking true forgiveness, but are truly seeking a way out of accepting blame, OP is not one of those people and I hope he and his ex can remain on good terms, if not friendly ones. It’s clear they’re never getting back together, but she seems like a good positive effect in his life, so I hope they can remain cordial.
I wonder who qvtually wanna take op wife in the 2nd story....is kinda scary to think someone with that amount of obssession is capable of convincing old friends and family to do it....
Duty to your siblings is one thing, becoming their parents is another.
Some adults shouldn't be walking around freely
Indeed.
I think the mom in her mind move the goal post to much as her mind was already made
@@Zeromegas If I was the father I would force her to work from home while taking care of her brat
@@beverlyarcher546 The father was a Dormat
Its funny, that some of the family members say to suck it up. I'd say "how about you babysit then?" Lol
This is parentification. It's child ab-se and I'm shocked it's still not considered a crime.
I think it's because it can be a grey area. While this is blatant parentification, where do you define the line between helping your fam and parentification?
To write a law you have to define it in black and white. Situations differ.
I definitely agree a law should be written, but how would you write such a law would be the question?
Edit:
I'm not a law maker but to my knowledge there's often supposed to be measurable/definable parameters. Somebody should definitely work on this but tbh right now the people in charge of lawmaking right now happen to be the same generation that don't see a problem with parentification.
@@Gabbz737NEW Making your child give up their future to do your job as a parent is easily identifiable, and vastly different than having your kid help every now and then, without compromising their academic life.
@@Gabbz737NEWidk if you’ve noticed but there are so many laws that aren’t written in complete black and white most have gray areas hence the reason for lawyers. The law should be written to protect minors from parentification which would be any amount of care a child is required to give a sibling because of a parent that would harm the original child. And the law already defines harmful acts as anything that is bodily harm, mental harm, emotional harm, or any form of societal harm. So the law could be written but no one in the generation in control wants to do that.
there's soo much grey in laws idk wtf youre talking about@@Gabbz737NEW
@@Gabbz737NEWWhen it interferes with school
Those family members telling OP to accept duties in the family and suck it, need to step up, accept their duties in the family and suck it up by pulling their weight and looking after OP’s brother.
Everytime I read these stories its like wth people?!.. Op just wants a life theres nothing wrong with that!
Went through that shit with moms side of the family they all have the mindset that you should go over to your grandparents and help them ALL DAY AND HAVE NO LIFE OR STAY THE NIGHT AT ANYBODYS BUT THE GRANDPARENTS literally only one cousin and his family disagreed we were the only grandchildren which made it even worse literally the old hag convinced mom to move back here DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE DIAGONALLY to be exact just so she could spy on us heck she wanted mom to drop me off at 13 years old while mom went to the grocery store to her house and how far was the store? It's about 5-10 minutes away even as an adult when she was dying she told my mom the only way I could stay in the stupid will was if I was over there everyday LITERALLY THIS IS WHAT MOM TOLD ME NOT MOM'S STUPID SIBLINGS WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRITING OUT by that point I was going through alot of stuff MAINLY caused by that side of the family plus the affect of being bullied by them and the kids from school for years I had graduated by that point was finally hitting me hard to the point I barely left the house or even my room I think I suffered some kind of depression or my emotions were finally breaking down I don't know I barely even made it to her funeral well I was forced to go to it
If mommy dearest family is so concerned about it then they can be the free babysitter.
I think parents go telling the relatives an isolated incident, or few, NOTHING else, and frame it as there were dire reasons they politely asked, sibling blew up, was nasty, never helped, and this was just a small tiny, short thing
Im glad the dad in story 1 straightened himself out. Its always good to see people make good changes
Not buying it..I think he's BSING op....
I love how they call "male" "meters"
New gender found🗣🗣
@@iamjustagirlintheworlddLGBTQM+++++♾️♾️
@@iamjustagirlintheworldd omg 😭😭
Those folk tall.
Real tall.
We've gone beyond the term "male" we are now measurements lol
In a way, the ex-wife did forgive OP, as in "letting go of her anger of him".
However, the trust is still gone, and without trust, there can't be a relationship.
Yeah, letting go of it and moving on is the actual act of forgiveness, even if you'll never admit it to them or even yourself.
People think it means no longer being mad about it, it just means you've gotten whatever closure and recovery you need to be able to walk away from it.
He was a$$
He should've worked his problems with his wife not with his family he is a man child, and you can't repair that in short while there are probably many more things wrong with him that even he himself doesn't see. I hope he grows out of it, he seems to be on the way out of that abusive mind prison.
@@denis3208 The first step is recognizing the pathology around you, which he has. The second step is doing something about it, in this case a therapist. But that first step is REALLY hard, because this behavior has been normalized by his father and brothers all his life.
I like what the wife said. Forgiveness is overrated, especially when the perpetrator is not asking for it. That invites doormat behavior. I say, understand and move on, meaning you understand why they did what they did and have moved past it. It does NOT mean that you have accepted the behavior in any way.
Story 02: excuse me ?! The dad tried to get with the ex too !!!!! WTF what a pos
Yes awful 😞
I know a family like that they are outcasts in a village, son brought a Roma bride home to marry and father then slept with her then they threw her out. I don't know much else about it because I was never friends with them just said hallo in passing and I used to live there 30 years ago ...
My stepfather tried that, too. He was a scumbag
Story 2: Even though he was emotionally abused, you still can’t deny how much he ruined what could’ve been between him and such an graceful woman. I mean, a lot of exes don’t usually get the chance at such conversations with the person who left them, so I hope he realizes how much he lost due to his naïveté. At the same time though, I’m glad he’s putting a step forward in a positive direction, and I hope he continues through that path. It may not be easy, but it’ll definitely make him ready for any other relationships to come.
She probably could see the signs that it was his family manipulating him, but at the end of the day she lived with him and spoke to him, not them. He was the one who said the hurtful things to her and drove her away. Him coming back and saying "surprise, i was being controlled by someone else like a puppet," would be hardly believable and he definitely does not deserve a second chance with the same woman. What he deserves is a second chance not to screw up his next relationship.
@@sanddagger36 Exactly!
Story 2: Coming from an abusive family myself, I understand that second chances aren't always given (even if efforts have been made to get better) and that's okay. I'm glad he's moving forward and getting better; God knows that sh*t ain't easy. Hopefully, he finds someone else to be happy with. Best of luck to him.
This literally happened to my husband but it was much worse. His mother remarried and had another baby when he was 14. She lied to the government and claimed he was being home schooled but then didn’t follow up with the home schooling and instead just worked those hours while dumping her daughter into him. She justified this by paying him $30 a week saying she was paying him and that somehow made it okay. lol
When he turned 18 he politely asked his mother to make arrangements for his little sister so he could get a job to save up and move out. His mother started sobbing hysterically and accused him of betraying his family.
The next day he came home from job seeking and all his stuff including his computer were scattered on the lawn in the rain. His entire family took her side. It was her word against his. I think this is the only situation I’ve ever witnessed where a parent was angry that their child wanted to work. It was really strange.
His grandparents then started watching his sister full time. She only saw her parents once a week. I’m not sure what his mother was expecting. That he would just live with them for the next 18 years to parent her child?
Not his fault. She should have worn a condom! Oh well. She also called me a snake for poisoning him against her for pointing out to him that what his mother was doing was kind of screwed up.
That happened with both grandparents on my fathers side...though one was entirely due to other things, but my grandmothers parents decided that since she was the oldest girl, she couldn't go to school over it despite a lot of other things at the time. Her father was a drunken mess, and her mother was a nightmare that there were a lot of other horror stories about
Story 1: Children shouldn’t have to take on responsibilities that should be reserved for parents.
So fr, they shouldn't have to act like a parent bc of their actual parents are being negligent.
Story 1 : Yeah, I feel that! It's crazy how some parents can be so self-centered, you know? But hey, major props to this girl for standing her ground and choosing her own happiness. 🙌 She's doing her thing and deserves all the positive vibes in the world. ✨
Story 2: yeah the dude is at fault, but that family and friends are fucking toxic
He's just as toxic as they are
He's the funniest AH 😂, I've no sympathy towards him. Tho the wife escaped from this a$$ gladly@@Halfcocked1222
That was an abuse victim being manipulated @@Halfcocked1222
At least he admits it
@@Halfcocked1222 not anymore
It’s so nice to see the kid in story 1 to be at her grandmothers actually being a kid, and not a parent to her brother. Knowing that she was running around with friends outside, swimming, and just hanging out being a kid is so nice honestly. People who parentify their kids are complete and utter useless assholes.
The Mother should be forced to quit her job to raise her brat
"Brat" is a bit much for the kid. The kid is pretty much a victim of the parents, too - conditioned by the constant presence of an unwilling caretaker to the point where they can't handle life without them is pretty cruddy.
Just the mother?
I feel like those bullies told her parents since they wanted to crash the party but couldn't
If the father gets divorced and full custody of Matt, then I imagine the daughter could move in with him and be a family again. The problem was always the mom
Really hoping OP’s dad is able to get full custody of Matt because I am 100% convinced OP’s egg donor would absolutely fill his little head with all kinds of lies about OP and turn him against her
So mom works in the business district from 4:30am to 10 or 11 PM every day, dad works every day, and they couldn't afford a sitter until after they estranged their daughter? Great parents, Matt is going to be a real peach.
This is why you get security and self defense tools. A taser, a gun, pepper spray, its all about getting them to realize the cost of trying to get you is more expensive than leaving you alone.
A simple fact that it wasn't just one of his friends but it looks like it was most of them just damn and he even said his family
I’m worried for the ex’s safety
@@66DoodleGal ye shit sicks
story 2: thats what happens when your family is full of meters
pretty sure the tallest one tripped and collapsed onto the smaller ones.
For the second story: my heart just breaks for that man. He literally lost everyone in his life, even though it was necessary for his survival and happiness. But I do understand his ex wife’s position. Some thing you just can’t forgive, even if you love someone. Sometimes loving someone makes it even harder to forgive them for doing something to hurt you.
Ops duty is to go to school, do chores (if they have any), and watch their brother. They aren't a parent to the brother. They aren't a free babysitter. It's the parent's duty to care for both children not force the older sibling to parent. The mom doesn't deserve either children or the father.
OP in the second story is certainly easy to manipulate lmao
He's just toxic and big stupid a$$
He's been manipulated his whole life, so yeah, it makes sense he was easy to manipulate. Luckily with therapy and getting out of that environment he'll do better and grow. I feel sorry for him, because he's going to feel very lonely, and will probably feel the urge to suck it up and go back to his shitty family and "friends".
By giants no less! Lol
NTA. I suggest you take a class for self-defense. I'm not telling you to kick your mom's butt. They can teach you how to break away from someone grabbing you or holding on to you. Also, in case your mom brings a buddy along you need to be able to get away. Which could happen if your dad ends up divorcing your mom over this. If you're thinking about what if this happens, or that happens, then start researching for solutions. Good luck
I truly don't think mom was working more overtime. I think she was out socializing. She left her daughter at home with her responsibility. Lost her sh*t when she had to come home and be a parent to her own kid.
CPS needs to be called.
Story 2, your friends are right. You're easily manipulated.
It is NEVER a child’s duty to parent their sibling (a). Ever! Those parents should be ashamed of themselves
I will never understand why parents think it's the oldest child's responsibility to also take care of their younger siblings they did not ask to be here or ask for their siblings to be here you got to look in the mirror at yourself for bringing multiple kids in this world rather than your oldest
I know these are really serious situations being described in these automated readings, but the 'Meters' instead of M/Male gets me every time.
Right! Lol! 🤣
No wonder how the 2nd op got his ass beat, thats a lot of meters
My bro is living in a family of giants💀
Acting as your younger sibling/s third parent is 100% not “the family duty” of an older sibling, screw the mom for trying to parentify OP and screw the family members that are enabling this
I think the dad was being bullshitted from the mom. It actually seems he cared for his daughter more than he let's on. Seems the mom was the one that was making Op look like a evil sister
Story 2: I don’t blame him for seeing red and honestly it hurts me that this is so recent for OP
the fact that this family can afford to speak through attorneys and hire security for birthday parties means they are not poor enough to require their child to be a full-time babysitter.
12:28 *Father 67 meters? That's an absolute unit of a man!*
Even though the stories are mostly sad af, this "meters" thing always cracks me up a bit.
Everyone saying OP is easy to manipulate are being pretty inconsiderate of the fact that literally all his family and friends were in on the manipulation campaign, and it sounds from the update like he had been broken into that by them through a long term abusive relationship.
Yeah he fucked up royal, but I seriously doubt most people would flip the script when literally everyone is secretly against you and in cahoots over it. "It's not paranoia if everyone is actually out to get you, but that doesn't stop you from looking like a paranoid freak either way if you act out over it."
Okay, I’m gonna stop over here at 2:50 they literally saying you should do it as your job just asked them to come take care of him the whole day and they’ll see how hard it is
So many meters. How tall are the brothers
Huh?
@@yeyosilver7067 referring to the narrator saying "26m" or any age referring to a man as meters. So example 26 meters, not 26 male lol
@@throwergirl966It's because that's not a person but an AI speaker. And since whoever uploaded the post didn't spell out male the abbreviated word for meter is M.
@@TheDevourer28 It's still hilarious that his ex friends and family are giants, I read comment that said the tallest one tripped over the smallest one and fell on top of them. Lol! 🤣
NO, ma'am, YOU made yourself look bad.
People don't really know what "forgiveness" means
Yeah that’s what I keep saying. His ex wife did forgive him, but barred the chance of reconciliation. Forgiveness is simply not holding a grudge, but by no means should you go back to the before times like you didn’t learn anything. Like I forgave my ex-wife and her affair partner, who was a friend of mine, but I never want to see him again.
@@karlwittenburg5868 AMEN
Story 2: I feel so bad for OP. He didn’t deserve to be treated like that and for his entire support to be destroyed because of their own awfulness
Yes didn’t deserve to be treated like that , but dude straight up believed ASSUMPTIONS made by his so called “family” MULTIPLE TIMES . Didn’t even try to defend his wife or at least try to look at the matters himself. He destroyed his own relationship by being so naive and vulnerable to manipulation. I’m glad to see that he’s matured and is now working on himself to become better.
"High value man" means he fell for redpill bs
Sounds to me like he emotionally abused his wife for years. Yes his friends and family planted the idea in his mind, but they're not the ones who mistreated his wife, he did. I do absolutely feel bad for him, he didn't deserve the treatment he got from the men in his life, but he isn't totally blameless. In this case, his support network wasn't doing him any good, and it's a good thing for it to be destroyed. It's better to be alone than surrounded by poison. As bitter a pill as that is.
@alext9320 this situation is just horrible all around. The wife absolutely didn't deserve how she was treated by OP and he did not deserve to be manipulated so vilely by his family. Yes, he is at fault for not thinking for himself and doing that. But he sounds like he was heavily reliant on his family well before and they took advantage of that trust. Hopefully the two of them will make better lives now that they are apart.
@@asnalem4391no it does not. Dont compare normal traditional people with Andrew tate. Some idiots joined the ride but that changes nothing.
Story 02, I saw it happens many times, friends ruins their friend marriage because they are jealous, most the times the husband stay delusional, ruin his marriage and never knew their intentions.
Children shouldn’t be made to be a 3rd parent.
Story 2 is pretty nuts, Usually I'm very much of ah slink back and just accept abuse kinda guy but really don't think I could handle it from family and would be going to jail if family member made that type of confession to me.
Wow his father and friends are horrible especially his father for trying to cheat on his wife
S2. Even though you were lied to, you verbally abused your ex-wife instead of investigating whether or not your family was telling the truth.
One thing the family was right about OP2, he's easily to manipulate.
God. Nta. I cant fathom how people can do this. My eldest is 13, my youngest is 2. I'll ask my eldest to sit with my youngest for 10 minutes while i hang out clothes or something but never would i be telling him to do anything like what those parents did. I know what thats like. Uts not ok
The people in story 2 are giants!
story 1:
the mom is just straight up brainless and somehow thinks forcing a kid to drop out of school to babysit thier brother unpaid is a lack of loyalty
story 2:
ggiachad ex wife for being so understanding.if all goes well,your ex might change the fact that she doesnt forgive you!its just a maybe,not garuntee
Planned or accident, its primarily its parents duty ehen comes the elder sibling's duty. Duty to younger sibling is one thing and forcing them to do parental duties is another.
sometimes people have one person they unload everything onto and when that person leaves their life they start treating others they used to be nice to just as badly. I'm not surprised OP's absence led to dad getting the brunt of the treatment and wanting to leave.
in the start of story 2, he calls his dad 67 meters instead of male 🤣
😬it is absolutely illegal for your kid to not have any school or education system at all
A book themed birthday party sounds awesome, lol
OP (from Story 1): Oh my God! She found me! I don't know how, but she found me. Run for it, Marty!!
Marty: Who? Who?
OP: Who do you think?! MY MOTHER!!
Marty: HOLY SH*T!!
Quitting school is permanent
I look forward to the day I turn 30 meters.
On the second story.... just apologise, don't make it about you by telling her what you want next. it's her grace that decides that.
Story 1: sadly, its common in asia because of poverty. The oldest have to sacrifies and the parents carelessy keep adding new borns 😅
At first, it sounded about what family should do during a major change, adapt together and work together while things are a shit show. Like when a mom first goes back to work after a maternity leave. But this quickly became parentification, which is no es bueno unless the older kid is actually the parent and is going to be taking over full time duties after graduating high school... but even then you have to make sure they can finish school and better their life before heaving their actual child on them full time. This is disgusting, and may CPS have no mercy on the parents.
Story 1: Grandma is goated
Reddit truly doesn't understand the concept of forgiveness.
for the second story, she should have taken him back.
If someone can make you look bad simply by saying what you're doing, you're doing something wrong
Once more kids ARE NOT PARENTS FOR THE YOUNGER ONES! You wanna have more kids fine but their watch and care are the PARENTS responsibility not children.
Op's family and friends in story 2 should have at least told him why they want to go after his ex wife
I think a lot of the time people get the meaning of the word forgive confused
How the wife in The second story said she doesn't forgive him but she doesn't have any grudges, those are oxymorons
Forgiveness is what she was doing, not holding grudges and wanting the best for him
You can forgive someone and still kick them out of your life.
That's exactly what she did and I give her props for being able to forgive the man
Not forgive him as in she's going to give him another chance but forgive him in the sense that she doesn't hate him
Bro from where do you research your stories they are always good anyways love ur vids😁
Ex in story 2: uhhhh... you are easily swayed by everyone. you wont last 3 months staying NC with your family and then I would be stuck with them trying to sleep with me for the rest of my life. Of course I'm not getting back together with you.
I need perspectives like this so I don't have to feel bad for the op
Story 1:
OP = NTA
Womb Donor ≠
≠ _"Parent"_
i'm interested that if it has a part 2......looking forward to it
Story 1: For certain family members telling OP to "accept the duties in the family and suck it up" those are the ones that they can go F'off and go NC with them, because they don't even know full crap of what OP has been going through, but i wanna see if those family members who said that to OP would be on OP's shoes and feel the same treatment like OP did and they can all "suck it up"
Story 2: i can't simply believe the kind of mentality these idiots had for ruin OP's marriage, i would've gone full on scortch earth in all of them!! 😤😤
On the story one. As the older sibling that helped raise my sister specially after my dad passed when she was a children still, I understand that is kinda our duty help or at least be a good example, but we can't become parents at such Young age specially having studies snd stuff. Dads understand its. But mom its ridiculous entitled and cheap 😢
I am 99.999% sure that her mum was cheating she used op as her replacement in the house and then suddenly op rebelled and ran away she couldn't accept the fact she had to cut off the time with her AP and going psycho....All the narcissists doesn't care about the people who love them it makes sense
She can't be out there by herself, though.
34 meters human
Story 2: you were too dumb. You were weak for yourself and for your loved one.
Guys why do you watch these videos? They clearly exist to promote drama and make you angry. Its not healthy, take a break.
Also, how can you be sure these stories are real?
I don’t really believe they are real (and even if they are they don’t affect me and there is no way to tell how much and how little is told in OP’s favour honestly) nor do they make me feel angry. It’s kind of like watching a soap opera on tv I guess. Lol I’m sure some people do get angry though and yeah they should definitely watch something else of that is the case.
Lol The same reason people watch dramas or sad stuff or comedies. Or like those people who get super worked up over sports! The ones who'd flip a table if their team lost. They want to feel whatever it is and use these things to achieve that - want to feel flustered and giggly? Watch a RomCom! Want to gasp in shock and feel scared? Watch a Thriller! And so on and so forth. Plus, yeah? Of course most of these stories are fake, most things on the internet are fake. You can't prove it's real, but you really can't prove it's not either, it's the way of the web man
People watch soap operas to get an emotional workout. A skilled team of writers can make you experience each of the seven deadly sins in the course a half-hour episode. The stories don't have to be real.
Narcissistic parents are the absolute worst. My gf ex husband put chemicals in their daughter’s hair to give it a perm. She 8 and didn’t want it. She came home with chemical burns on her face. We had to go to court to have an order stating he can’t put chemicals in her hair anymore. The next weekend he had her him , his mother and his new gf sat her down and made her make a video saying it was the checmicals he puts in her hair. But the children’s hair dye that we put in for her Halloween costume months before. The same dye 80% of her school uses. And preceded to sent the video to my gfs lawyer. Not his own. And state that it’s my gfs fault and not his.
I'm calling bullshit on the second story: "Hey Honey, you know your toxic father, brother and friends, all of whom have been a negative influence on your life and have done nothing but demean and lower you? They've all tried to make a pass at me."
Seriously?
yeah if that is real their marital communication is garbage and they weren’t going to last anyways. Why wouldn’t the wife tell her husband about the inappropriate behaviour?
@@BrightElk, It sounded to me that they went after her once they separated/divorced. In which case, why tell him, since he thought she was a cheater anyway. Just tell the pervs no, and get away from them.
The ex wife needs a restraining order against that family and go after them for harassment
My sleep has been improved...
Me watching this at 2 am
You’re clearly not a parent if you’re comparing the sleep exhaustion you feel when raising a child to the sleep exhaustion you feel when you actively choose to stay up watching youtube videos passed midnight. 😂😂😂
(Story 1) They need to figure out how to involuntarily baker act the mother.
The title of the video is absolut clickbait
Story 2: The not forgiving thing was a bit odd and I don’t mean not forgiving him. I mean in general also in a way it seems like she kinda forgave him they just aren’t calling it that. But she seems like she has her principles won’t get with any of her exes friends refuse to forgive you can respect that dedication to one’s own principles.
Being over 60 I have seen how a pregnancy can change a woman, temporarily or permanently. Sounds like after you brother was conceived and born is when everything changed. In old school the older child helped, almost to the point of raising, with the younger children. Times have changed that. Look up narcissist and your mother is showing all characteristics of it. Maybe it was always there since her own mother went NC. Hope you try to get scholarships because you sound extraordinary. Good luck and hope you and your dad repair your relationship.
Mother deleted the post? How?
Op 2 really is easily manipulated
Very few things sweeter than when a narcissist lets their mask slip and everyone see’s them for who they are.
"my dad (67 meters)"
Forgiveness is a tricky thing. You may never forgive the actions and the person they were, however, it sounds very much like OP, and his ex are in a much better place than they were. I would not be surprised if, after much-needed therapy, she told him that she does forgive him just not the actions he took. Forgiveness is not guaranteed and is only given when your actions change is usually saved as a comment for people who are not seeking true forgiveness, but are truly seeking a way out of accepting blame, OP is not one of those people and I hope he and his ex can remain on good terms, if not friendly ones. It’s clear they’re never getting back together, but she seems like a good positive effect in his life, so I hope they can remain cordial.
op in story two has some very tall family members and friends 🤔
I pay for the phone bill and I can see every text.
I wonder who qvtually wanna take op wife in the 2nd story....is kinda scary to think someone with that amount of obssession is capable of convincing old friends and family to do it....
There is something called a belt 😮🤯🤯🤯
And that's called abuuuuse~
37 and 40 meters 😂