Joyner Lucas On How He Feels About Not Being Mentioned With Drake
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
- Joyner Lucas On How He Feels About Not Being Mentioned With Drake
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"He came in when Kendrick came in...."
"...pause." 😂😂😂
And now he dont wanna be mentioned by kendrick or drake lmaooo
Doubt that bro
Keeping those stereotypes alive 😂
This is what being humble looks like💯🔥
Joyner is a smart guy
im all for Joyner being top tier, but that clip had no to do with being humble - He is throwing himself at the very top
@@TonniMaLonni how did you not get humbleness from his response 👀
@@TonniMaLonniNot really, he more so stated that even though he's not being acknowledged by the media as a top tier talent, THE most top tier talent in the game is acknowledging him as such, so it doesn't really matter what box the public puts him in.
So sure, in a way it might come off as a bit braggadocious but it's not really his fault since nobody can make Em respect you unless you earned it. 🤷♂️
@@devantecrouchHomie, you got my actual first name spelled the CORRECT way for once, so therefore you get a salute for that my guy ! L✊️l
Hey if eminem says you goated then its stamped 💯 & Can’t no one argue with that
Joyner always been a real genuine dude 🔥🔥🔥💯
So you know him personally? If u don't then stfu with your gullibles
This is a big factor to why I love Joyner Lucas.
this is fuckin stupid. REAL M'c$ just hustle, grind and flow. WE do not pay attention to no auto-tunin' diddy'type'd'sippers.. WE are 🐺💯pack. always 💯ah' buck 😉
Nooo, the one y'all keep forgetting is BIG KRIT!!! He's definitely in that class facts. In fact he has more dimensions
Big who?
Multi til the sun die!!
Cadillactica go crazyyy still to this day
He not better then Joyner
Undoubtedly. But His whole catalog is 🔥🔥🔥
Joyner Lucas is great with the pen. He might be one if not "the best". In my opinion, Joyner is very crafty and intelligent when it comes to music. 🙌🏻
Lmfao
Tory lanes bodied him
@@ghettablkgffb You are wrong
@@chanaihabru3694 lol stop lying everyone knows the truth
Yall tweakin. Mfs are not fucking with Joyner lyrically. Y’all smokin dope. PAUSE 🤣🤣🤣🤣 who put verses together like he does? He tell you both sides to the story. Real story teller.
His story telling and visual is amazing
Top tier
Exactly like that song keep it 100 was mind blowing the way it was filmed & edited & how they followed the 100 bill everywhere it went & there's so many more to name but I was just giving 1 example
Joyner dope, phenomenal lyricist…but the difference between him, em, cole and Kendrick are commercial sales. He is dope hands down, but he ain’t versatile enough to make commercial bangers that aren’t politically charged like the rest which is why he isn’t mentioned next to them. But lyrically, he ain’t the worst out of them so commercial sales and number got to be the only reason
I’ve been saying this for the longest. Idc about your favorite rapper and mine doesn’t matter either. It’s all subjective. All of these guys sell music to pay the bills so I can only go off sales because numbers don’t care about opinions.
B's it all comes down to one person ... Puff daddy 😢😂
@@joedaddy12300 amen hallelujah, my goat is Wayne…but numbers say Eminem….who am I to argue with numbers
Out of all of them joyner is the most independent artist i think
I disagree with that. He’s shown the ability to do “commercial” type songs but he has a style. He’s not compromising his art for sales or commercial acclaim. Many of the greats didn’t have commercial success. You have to be true to the art. Dumbing his lyrics down will taint his image.
The truth and humility are rare qualities these days. There are those of us that truly value that. Salute.
That’s what respect looks like. He knows those guys are nice at their craft and he knows he’s nice too but he respects that they done it longer and have built up their names
He hasn’t accomplished what the others have but in terms of writing and lyrics. He’s def there
I like Joyner’s concepts.
Hands down maybe one of the best if not the best conceptually dope emcee
Check Masta Ace
Check out Ras Kass
In my mind he’s up their with them, Joyner go hard 🔥🔥🔥
Em puts joyner in the convo because joyner’s pen is up there with k dot and cole at a technical level and for em, lyrics matter a lot. But em, cole, and k dot also got dope albums and a lot of music that impacts the world, they create waves. Joyner doesn’t have that yet.
That's a delusional statement. Joyner had one of the most uplifting hip hop albums ever made in terms of impractical music. He was robbed of a grammy for best hip hop album and it wasn't even close
@@devam1987 aight man, whatever floats your boat. I strongly disagree with you
I’ve never heard one of his songs on the radio….. just sayin
@@chizchism84He is an independent artist that’s why he barely get any radio play but he probably makes more money than 99 of these rappers that has labels behind them
You could argue Joyners “I’m not racist” is a better political song than anything Kendrick or Cole has written
Joyner got everything it takes. He just needs a magnum opus. He already better rapper than Drake. Joyner got time to deliver artistic greatness
Make your point without involving Drake's name, damn.
Drakes @ss tho @@n.d.umedia7173
@@n.d.umedia7173 ?? The whole point of the conversation was about Joyner in the same level of Drake, Cole and Kendrick. Joyner is great but he not better than Cole or Kendrick just for being those lyrical miracle spiritual individual type of rapper, so yes, we have to mention Drake's name cuz with relatable hits, maybe some club hits and a magnum opus, he could take drake out of the "big three" conversation. Stop the dck riding nicca lol
To be the greatest you gotta have hits that translate to the culture. Joyner don’t got that yet. His audience is predominantly white and he panders to that so as polished as his pen is he gotta make shit that black people relate too
@@Amyus2346he made shit blacks can relate too. He just ain't make nothing ignorant
Joyner will be in the top 5 in this era
No
Super No
Y'all tripping 😂😂😂😂 who would it be in this ERA lol
Hell nah 😭
@@FLABLACKSTAR We Really Not.He Wouldnt Br Him In This Era Cause Hes Not In This Era.Last I Check He Born In '88😆😂 And 1st Project Came In '15.Which Would Make Him In The Same Era As Kendrick & Cole.Sorry But He Missed His Shoot At Being Consider In That Convo,Too Late Now
Because appeal . You have to be a certain type of person to like Joyner most people can hear the other three and rock with it
But Joyner has that. Joyner is the full package he can do everything those dudes can do. From what has been said about him is he wants his music to speak for him, he isn't kissing ass for promotion.
@@DM-lj2mn besides his ability to rap it’s nothing cool about the dude he just seem like a rapper so it’s like eh . He’s dope I love him but when you try to be too deep you lack depth
That was lowkey a disrespectful question
How it was the truth and it’s not like it had disrespectful undertones
It wasn't, it actually was respectful.
The problem is hes really amazing with the story telling/flows/ lyrics and visuals but his commercial music doesn’t hit the same as the other three. It’s like we really don’t know who Joyner is as a person so it’s harder to connect. He’s good at telling other people story but not his own.
I love his honesty.
If he keeps on working one day he will be goated.
He really a phenomenal lyricist..like he said if they don’t fw u they will eventually 👏🏽
Joyner an locksmith crazy bars
Locksmith!!!
@@officialmichaelvelli he dope asf.
big facts. glad to see locksmith being mentioned. he doesn't get enough recognition man.
Locksmith arguably a top 5 but just not that popular.
Humble brother
He ain’t lying
Real ninjas know Joyner up there
Too fkn nice
Not to sound like a hater or nun but he’s been in the game for about 5-7 years now too.
Time in the game doesn’t matter once youre past like 5 yrs. Joyner isn’t mentioned bcus he isn’t commercially pushed. Quality wise, he has to make the masses listen, idk if he has that
Joyner is a legendary dude. 👌👌💪
The fact that he's humble about not being mentioned because that shouldn't determine what type of artist he is. Joyner Lucas is a dope top tier m.c. imo.💯💪🏾❤
yeah i agree with Joyner if a legend mention you one of the goats to me is a win
He's definitely killing it with his music
I appreciate his real life stories and never flossing about unimportant things
Joyner, hopsin, & Merkules & chris webby. All great word play
Man i was just talking about this the other day … Joyner one of the best story tellers ever too
Joyner & J.I.D are the next biggies.
Joyner Lucas is a good rapper in his own right
Humility is the Key.
Joyner IS up there with them.
every time I hear guys use "pause" in normal conversation it reminds me how hard they're trying to put on a front.
Because it's not about how sharp is your pen, it's about can u make great music, interesting storytelling, new flows or not
Yes he can
He is at the top of his game right now..
Respect to my fav...artist...
Dude been seriously working his ass off and dats an understatement
The fast rapping he does, which is incredible got played out.
That's a lazy comment about Joyner's music, half his flow isn't even fast. He knows how to switch it up. His music isn't for everyone, his subject matters aren't for everyone and that affects his commercial reach. Has nothing to do with style, he's a lyrical beast, his cadence and flow are impeccable. He's just not as commercially viable as the others. Those guys especially Cole and K Dot have the fortunate mix of lyrical ability mixed with commercial viability.
That slow shit played the fuck out.
Wait what? Lol Joyner dont just rap fast bro. What is you on? Lol
@@devil5adv0ca8the fact he raps fast at all is all it takes to not have commercial appeal. Nobody in my generation or below it went to hear that shit. The subject matter doesn’t matter. People highly rate TPAB and think it’s a conscious album and really Kendrick is rapping about his own personal struggle
@@pandabear1576whats your generation? Youngbols listen to babytron, he rappin fast.
I think its his beats…got no rhythm and his voice gets irritating.
When a top 3 goat acknowledges you as a current top 3 rapper, enough said.
I agree with Joyner. It's just a matter of "time known". 'Im not Racist'is proythe most prolific rap song of the 2000's, period. That one alone has substance that Cole, Kendrick, nor Drake has been able to reach in quite sime time.
The difference is quality and quantity.
'First Person Shooter' garnered a lot of attention because of the simple fact that Frake and Cole are on 1 song TOGETHER. Kendrick is being talked about because of his response to it.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, 3 niggas is riding the wave of 1 song. As opposed to the creative and cultural impact 'I'm not Racist' had by 1 rapper.
It's apples and oranges.
I think Joyner has got a lot of conviction in his lyrics, he has a distinct music soumd as well in his songs.. I do like Kendrick, but not as much as Joyner though. It's just a matter of time and h will blow up.
joyner WILL go down as one of the greatest of all time
Joyner is unironically a different breed. The only person I have heard that uses a similar flow is 100 Kufis, who is also underrated.
He don’t need confirmation from the masses, if em say he in the convo that’s period.
Joyner is a really talented rapper and lyricist, but he’s right. He hasn’t been in the game as long as those guys and he hasn’t had really enough time to make a huge hit like them. He’s still figuring it out. And whether he does or doesn’t, dudes real genuine regardless. He’s got a solid loyal fan base and honestly? He seems like the kinda guy where that’s all he needs. He’s not trying to be the greatest, he’s trying to tell his stories in a way people fuck with. Can’t have anything but respect for that 🫡
Bruh i like Joyner! Ever since hearing winter blues been fan of his!!
Past 4 albums are 🔥 throughout in my opinion. I put him in the convo with those guys for lyricism
Goat. Joyner spits from every angle. You see every side of the story in his music. An over thinkers dream world!
You are the most underrated artist ever. If they never speak of your name, don’t give a fuck.. people sleep on the best every night.
joyner lucas is a phenomenal rapper he could easily be the greatest to leave behind a legacy. I personally think it's his marketing strategy.
Joyner up there...and he word play is good
Joyner is definitely Hip-hop top list
Selfless and most humble response ❤
Joyner is one of the G.O.A.T no lie and most MCs know this am an artist and real recognize real
all Joyner needs is more commercial records without the features carrying it to success
Because of humbleness you are now my first 10 MC OF ALL TIME
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Joyner dodge this east coast question perfectly
He makes meaningful albums which are not valued anymore but what he doesn’t have is a number one hit
Very humble 🙏🏼
A lot of his music follows the same formula and same with videos. This not the stuff people want to hear on radio or clubs. He’s got his niche and he should just stick with it. To be in convo u must produce other stuff to show u are versatile .
It just comes down to also having the huge mainstream success. Their are plenty of rappers that can rap with those dudes
Joyner Lucas's music is 🔥
Joyner the best out of everyone mentioned in this clip... at this time.
I just went on a Joyner binge, and yeah, he can be there. People only care about the club hits, though.
That’s a great complete response from his side.
I feel joyner in the same tier and I wouldn't be mad if he was mentioned. But it's true he needs more time. If anything he's next up to lead the next generation as top dog
They on same level lyrically. Joyner doesn't have the hits. Or classic tracks
Unsung hero.
Yeah, but for the short time you've been around in comparison to those artists Joyner you truly are way above a lot of them, and yet still remain a nice man. You're an extremely talented and unique artist...and Wow you've only just begun!!Please, please don't change, you're so for real genuine ❤
Joyner just has had a big radio hit. He dominates UA-cam though
Joyner is a dope ass rapper. Lol
I been saying this, because i feel like he right there with them.
I haven’t heard a full album from Joyner.. but he is a dope artist and could be one of the greats. Just needs to up his catalog.. unless I’m oblivious
Check out Along Came Joyner, really solid project imo
Joyner is over them he just being humble I bet one of them 3 won't diss Joyner
Answering a question .
Perfect example 💯
Bar for bar Joyner is up there with anyone.
Joyner lucas is A Legend❤
It's a about popularity but I'm different the west coast rappers are underrated for sure
He's in my top 3 and doesn't get enough credit
Coming from the underground like Joyner and Em and Tech n9ne is even more honorable
Shout out to Marshall 🐐
I don’t put Joyner in the same conversation with them either, he’s just different.. more raw, more hardcore, he shows you a dark thought process that others are afraid to admit or even think about. He’s fucking pissed and you feel it
Because he has no radio Hits, but Joyner definitely up there with them Bars wise
I actually put Joyner ahead of the names mentioned. His lyrics have a bit more depth to me. That’s just my opinion though
Exactly
Idc what others say Joyner is probably my favorite rapper and he’s absolutely in my top 5 for lyrical talent. It’s funny cuz I’m a logic fan day 1 was logic, I’m happy they beefed so I could find joyner
Joyner and KRIT is just as big as Kdot Drake & Cole. The marketing just doesnt push them the same but the talent is there
Humble response. 💪🏾
Yeah I think Joyner Lucas is a great lyricist. It’s just that the ones who know know type of thing. The real hip hop fans.
There’s no better story teller than Joyner right now
Good answer🔥
he really said “pause” after he said “came in”
Very humble brother..
Truth is they been long in the game before him and commercial
Sales also is a major factor.
But lyrically Joyner will go toe to toe with any of them..
Same with Big Sean
if em respects him , nothing else matters 😂
It’s just different calibers and different sounds. Joyner is a visual and creator vs making music to please fans or pop charts. They all are dope artist but it’s what you wanna accomplish.
Perfect answer.
Love him.❤
Joyner is just getting started