So good to see you.... I was worried with the conflicts going on.... You have taught me so much survival these past few years and i rarely comment, as I don't talk much. I've been sick so I'm binging on your videos.... So Gtsy. 😊
Where did you find a black finish Silky nata? Regarding the sheath, I'll give you an explanation. Japanese knives typically come with a wooden sheath. The Silky is a modern interpretation of that . They're not meant to be tactical sheaths. A nata is a farming/forestry hand tool. I'm sure you could find a sheath maker to make a leather one that fits better or a kydex one to do the same. At the end they are two different tools. The skarma is the all rounder where as the nata is for chopping. For processing firewood, the silky wins hand down. for fire making the skarma is more useful but you could use the silky backward and pull against it. It's horses for courses.
I love BOTH of those! The Silky is sort of a kukri in the way the weight is forward, just without the curved blade. I have soooooo many….what’s two more, right?
Zanimljivi alati u svakom slučaju. Iako sam fan svih "nordijskih" reznih alata, nekako me u ovom slučaju NATA više vuče, baš zbog te zakrivljenosti. Al teško suditi samo ovako vizualno. U svakom slučaju odličan video starac. Živio!
I am new to your channel. GREAT JOB!!! New subscriber!!! I have had both for 5 years.the scrama is good but takes three times as long as the nata to get through the job. The sheath sucks but the blade is far superior to the scrama.
I have Gerber Versa fix. Blade length 23,5 cm. A good round chopper. Good to to cut out of wrist. And half circle cut. A little stabby. Weight 350 Gramm. The middle is two fingers before the handle. Thickness is 3 Millimeters. And throwable. Price around 40 to 50 Euro. Easy to sharpen. Holds the edge.🌬️
It should be noted that Silky actually makes them in multiple sizes, but for all intents and purposes the short ones kind of.... Suck, except as light hatchets. The 240mm is the full size one and weighs about the same as a small american hatchet and it's the one I'd get if I was somebody watching this video, because you need the weight behind it to make what it wants to do easy. Which is splitting wood and delimbing branches. It is best at delimbing, that's technically what it's meant for. It's made of sk5 so it's basically indestructable, but it can rust within minutes of contact with water. One problem with the silky is the straight blade, it can make contact weird or not go all the way through things the way you exactly want. Also the bent handle forces you to learn a new back-leaning technique if you're doing wood splitting. Because of that straight blade it chews the outside of your splitting log up very, very fast. 10x faster than any hatchet, so prepare to be replacing your stumps constantly.
Both of these tools are analogous to a machete, but are thicker and shorter than a regular machete. Therefore, it makes sense to compare them with a traditional machete. I used a 12" Tramontina machete and a 14" bolo machete. I can say that cutting branches, including dry ones, is very convenient. I note that I prepared the machete by improving the geometry of the blade, sharpening and processing the wooden handle. You also need to make the scabbard yourself. With the Tramontina 12" machete, it is easy to cut dry pine branches 5-6 cm thick. Thicker ones can also be cut, but in this case a saw is preferable. A well-sharpened machete can be used as a knife. A machete is not suitable for splitting stumps. The blade thickness is too thin for wedging. For me, a set of Silky saws and a Tramontina machete is ideal for the forest.
@@hikewomeat depends where you intend to use it. In Northern woods the Nata makes more sense than a machete, which is great in a tropical environment. Different vegetation.
I had to use a short machete in the northern forest. I can indicate that it is quite suitable. Perhaps a machete with a long blade is more effective for grassy soft plants. Such a tool as Nata is quite heavy and specific. It is probably suitable for working with bamboo. It can be compared with the ax. Undoubtedly, for fairly thick and strong trees, the saw has an advantage over chopping tools.
Thank you for this video! hmmm .. well here in Germany we are restricted, the maximal blade length allowed, measured without the handle, is 12 cm 🤣(of course, if we carry a knife at our own property, it is not forbidden to carry a longer knife) . All the best to you and yours, greetings from Hamburg/Germany, Dietmar, DL4HAO
That’s such a shame. I’m in Kentucky in the middle of the USA. I could carry either of these under my shirt beside my 9mm and go the store, the mall, almost anywhere. If you ever want to move…😁
У меня есть и то и то… SILKY NATA имеет больше возможностей, но оно тяжелее и дороже, поэтому я выбираю SKRAMA… с ним проще передвигаться, им легче работать, его не жалко использовать по жесткому… TERÄVÄ SKRAMA - one love!!!
I don't think the two are comparable. Skrama is a weapon/large chopper whereas Nata is a forestry tool for delimbing trees. Nata is a brutal brutal chopper as well but only with swings coming in from the right, thanks to its one sided bevel. If you swing it from the left it is more than likely to glance off which can be annoying(potentially dangerous) if you are used to two sided bevel tools. Both certainly have their place and uses but i don't see Nata as a bushcraft tool. Too much of a one trick pony. That said, for garden work i will always reach for Nata first.
A Chinese firewood cleaver（ close to 1cm thick at the spine and wider at the tip) can easily beat this thing, and does not need the help of pounding by another firewood. The blade on this thing is just not thick and wide enough...
In Japan, NATA is a knife that is handled roughly and is generally not tactically modified in the same way as Western knife makers. As for sheaths, traditional NATA are often stored in wooden, ill-fitting box-like sheaths or cheap leather covers, and many of those used at home or in the neighbourhood are not stored in such sheaths. Many Japanese do not care if the NATA sheath makes a noise, is a little rusty or is not in a sheath. Compared to these, the Silky is a modern design, but it is still only NATA, and from a Western bushcraft point of view, there will inevitably be some complaints. These are my personal thoughts on NATA as a Japanese person.
If my dog had to wear a label that said don't touch me don't speak to me and don't look me in the eye I would consider myself an abject failure as a dog owner .
The Nata is a Forestry hatchet…… supposed to be blade heavy. The hip sheath has a retaining strap intentionally added for idiots who wear it upside down. Do you actually think about what you’re going to say before you hit record?
If your blade is chipping so badly you have to replace then it's fucking garbage, period. I have had hundreds of knives, machetes, hatchets, tomahawks, kukris, etc. I have only had a maybe 2 or 3 that I damaged so badly I had to throw them away. If you've managed to destroy 2 of the Skramas then they are steaming shit. There's something seriously wrong with the heat treatment if you're having that problem. It's NOT normal.
Ive beat on aged hickory and oak with my skrama and i havent had any major edge damage. I did however make the edge convex and less steep in addition to polishing/sanding the blade for less friction. You probably wont have a problem with the edge if you arent abusing it too much. Ive beat the shit out of it takes it like a champ.
So good to see you.... I was worried with the conflicts going on.... You have taught me so much survival these past few years and i rarely comment, as I don't talk much. I've been sick so I'm binging on your videos.... So Gtsy. 😊
Great video. Very useful information from your experience. Much appreciated.
Where did you find a black finish Silky nata?
Regarding the sheath, I'll give you an explanation. Japanese knives typically come with a wooden sheath. The Silky is a modern interpretation of that . They're not meant to be tactical sheaths. A nata is a farming/forestry hand tool.
I'm sure you could find a sheath maker to make a leather one that fits better or a kydex one to do the same.
At the end they are two different tools. The skarma is the all rounder where as the nata is for chopping. For processing firewood, the silky wins hand down. for fire making the skarma is more useful but you could use the silky backward and pull against it. It's horses for courses.
Very simple and usefull! 👍
we vote for Terävä Skrama ;)
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Terävä Katana when?
@@Giganotti We have one ceremonial Skrama 600 but the retail versions won't go beyond 240.
@@varustelekaSkrama 600 would be perfect for Varusteleka's april fools'
Haha varusteleka RULES!
Like both. Thank you for sharing. Give Cairo much ❤ from me. Take care
I love BOTH of those! The Silky is sort of a kukri in the way the weight is forward, just without the curved blade. I have soooooo many….what’s two more, right?
I love how the branches just fell off. That was classic.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work
Zanimljivi alati u svakom slučaju. Iako sam fan svih "nordijskih" reznih alata, nekako me u ovom slučaju NATA više vuče, baš zbog te zakrivljenosti. Al teško suditi samo ovako vizualno. U svakom slučaju odličan video starac. Živio!
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I like the TERÄVÄ SKRAMA
I am new to your channel. GREAT JOB!!! New subscriber!!! I have had both for 5 years.the scrama is good but takes three times as long as the nata to get through the job. The sheath sucks but the blade is far superior to the scrama.
I have Gerber Versa fix. Blade length 23,5 cm. A good round chopper. Good to to cut out of wrist. And half circle cut. A little stabby. Weight 350 Gramm. The middle is two fingers before the handle. Thickness is 3 Millimeters. And throwable. Price around 40 to 50 Euro. Easy to sharpen. Holds the edge.🌬️
Bout time someone said truth I seen the skrama thought it looked thin
I’ve got a scrama nothing beats it 👍thanks to you for sharing ⛺️👍🔪
The skrama is a beast. I almost bought the silky but im glad i didnt.
finnish quality
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toyota hilux too@@slyfox4564
So the 2 other skrama broke at the edge? What did you hit with them? Thanks for sharing
so why are you on your third skrama ...?
What's that tattoo on your arm? Is it in Greek?
Nice
Not quite sure that you know the Nata is a type of axe for a start, there's a strap to go round the handle
When is my video could published my friend? 😅
It should be noted that Silky actually makes them in multiple sizes, but for all intents and purposes the short ones kind of.... Suck, except as light hatchets. The 240mm is the full size one and weighs about the same as a small american hatchet and it's the one I'd get if I was somebody watching this video, because you need the weight behind it to make what it wants to do easy. Which is splitting wood and delimbing branches. It is best at delimbing, that's technically what it's meant for. It's made of sk5 so it's basically indestructable, but it can rust within minutes of contact with water.
One problem with the silky is the straight blade, it can make contact weird or not go all the way through things the way you exactly want. Also the bent handle forces you to learn a new back-leaning technique if you're doing wood splitting. Because of that straight blade it chews the outside of your splitting log up very, very fast. 10x faster than any hatchet, so prepare to be replacing your stumps constantly.
Both of these tools are analogous to a machete, but are thicker and shorter than a regular machete. Therefore, it makes sense to compare them with a traditional machete. I used a 12" Tramontina machete and a 14" bolo machete. I can say that cutting branches, including dry ones, is very convenient. I note that I prepared the machete by improving the geometry of the blade, sharpening and processing the wooden handle. You also need to make the scabbard yourself. With the Tramontina 12" machete, it is easy to cut dry pine branches 5-6 cm thick. Thicker ones can also be cut, but in this case a saw is preferable. A well-sharpened machete can be used as a knife. A machete is not suitable for splitting stumps. The blade thickness is too thin for wedging. For me, a set of Silky saws and a Tramontina machete is ideal for the forest.
@@hikewomeat depends where you intend to use it. In Northern woods the Nata makes more sense than a machete, which is great in a tropical environment. Different vegetation.
I had to use a short machete in the northern forest. I can indicate that it is quite suitable. Perhaps a machete with a long blade is more effective for grassy soft plants. Such a tool as Nata is quite heavy and specific. It is probably suitable for working with bamboo. It can be compared with the ax. Undoubtedly, for fairly thick and strong trees, the saw has an advantage over chopping tools.
The Terava Skrama rules!
Brilliant video 👍👍👍
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Thank you for this video! hmmm .. well here in Germany we are restricted, the maximal blade length allowed, measured without the handle, is 12 cm 🤣(of course, if we carry a knife at our own property, it is not forbidden to carry a longer knife) . All the best to you and yours, greetings from Hamburg/Germany, Dietmar, DL4HAO
It's sad that you don't have a 2nd Ammendment that allows you to truly protect yourselves. When were your rights abolished?
That’s such a shame. I’m in Kentucky in the middle of the USA. I could carry either of these under my shirt beside my 9mm and go the store, the mall, almost anywhere. If you ever want to move…😁
@@papabear9481 probably at the same time ours were 🇬🇧
@@papabear9481the jews took germans rights
У меня есть и то и то… SILKY NATA имеет больше возможностей, но оно тяжелее и дороже, поэтому я выбираю SKRAMA… с ним проще передвигаться, им легче работать, его не жалко использовать по жесткому… TERÄVÄ SKRAMA - one love!!!
I don't think the two are comparable. Skrama is a weapon/large chopper whereas Nata is a forestry tool for delimbing trees. Nata is a brutal brutal chopper as well but only with swings coming in from the right, thanks to its one sided bevel. If you swing it from the left it is more than likely to glance off which can be annoying(potentially dangerous) if you are used to two sided bevel tools.
Both certainly have their place and uses but i don't see Nata as a bushcraft tool. Too much of a one trick pony.
That said, for garden work i will always reach for Nata first.
they sell double beveled ones, I have one cause I'm a lefty. No glances. It does delimb very, very well
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Skrama apsolutno 😊
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If you want a chopper and coconut cutter the Silky, as a survival knife the Terava wins.
Terävä🙄 ä!!🤣
Both have pros n cons. I’d take both. N I LOVE the ring !!! I wear a silicone black ring myself.
Plz send a shoutout to AG n Donna for me.
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TJ
Just For Your Information: finnish word "terävä" = sharp
A Chinese firewood cleaver（ close to 1cm thick at the spine and wider at the tip) can easily beat this thing, and does not need the help of pounding by another firewood. The blade on this thing is just not thick and wide enough...
In Japan, NATA is a knife that is handled roughly and is generally not tactically modified in the same way as Western knife makers.
As for sheaths, traditional NATA are often stored in wooden, ill-fitting box-like sheaths or cheap leather covers, and many of those used at home or in the neighbourhood are not stored in such sheaths.
Many Japanese do not care if the NATA sheath makes a noise, is a little rusty or is not in a sheath.
Compared to these, the Silky is a modern design, but it is still only NATA, and from a Western bushcraft point of view, there will inevitably be some complaints.
These are my personal thoughts on NATA as a Japanese person.
18 ounces isn't nearly heavy enough for a chopper. Silky wins easily.
If my dog had to wear a label that said don't touch me don't speak to me and don't look me in the eye I would consider myself an abject failure as a dog owner .
The Nata is a Forestry hatchet…… supposed to be blade heavy. The hip sheath has a retaining strap intentionally added for idiots who wear it upside down. Do you actually think about what you’re going to say before you hit record?
😁😉👍🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻 Lp.
If your blade is chipping so badly you have to replace then it's fucking garbage, period. I have had hundreds of knives, machetes, hatchets, tomahawks, kukris, etc. I have only had a maybe 2 or 3 that I damaged so badly I had to throw them away. If you've managed to destroy 2 of the Skramas then they are steaming shit. There's something seriously wrong with the heat treatment if you're having that problem. It's NOT normal.
IF THE OPPOSITE OF PRO IS CON,
THEN THE OPPOSITE OF PROGRESS IS CONGRESS. 😂
Hello from Canada eh! So, what the Blah-blah, blah hoser? Just like, eh, let us know der details eh? You nice bush guy though, no horsing around eh?
Ive beat on aged hickory and oak with my skrama and i havent had any major edge damage. I did however make the edge convex and less steep in addition to polishing/sanding the blade for less friction. You probably wont have a problem with the edge if you arent abusing it too much. Ive beat the shit out of it takes it like a champ.
Keep selling rings because you don't understand shit about machetes mate....😄