So Tamar basically said that her exes were better in bed than Vince but she prefers Vince as a husband. Interesting.. also she has mentioned that her exes were very bad to her and one even used to hit her. So she's basically saying that sex is just a cherry on the cake and you should look for someone who treats you right first and foremost... wise woman.
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+Yasmine Xo Not that wise if you're gonna put your husband on blast like that in front of the world. That's how you end up losing the good man you have; running your mouth all day long about his business. You don't put the man you love on blast like that.
I commend you for sticking by her at least your emotional relationship is worth staying for smfh these people who saying she getting it from outside that's just crazy
People act like sex having sex is the end all be all to everything life. I mean there's so much more than that. Be with people who love you for who you are and who support you through through thick and thin. Also, why are people acting like being bad in bed is a curse or a disability or something? Anybody CAN get better at sex. As a matter of fact, the majority of people are just hooking up, there's not making that GOOD love, you feel me? Having good sex is SKILL that ANYBODY can master, you just have keep it real, tell your partner what turns you on and what you like, and vice versa! And BOOM, getch'yo life! End of the story!
+Sava My goodness, you are a very wise person. Lately, i have being watching other cultures and to be honest, i got to see why so many relationship failed. I can't believe that nearly all those ladies believe that they would end a relationship if sex is not good. So after the act, what is left? What do we see in that person? When two being became one, they brings out the best in each other. Although, it's clear there is a difference between sex and love making. That's why in some society today, sex causes a lots of suffering, unwanted children, sicknesses, single mothers and fathers. Some people spent their lives having sex but never experience the joy of love making. That's why i will never blame society for how some relationships are today, i'd rather blamed the people. I am in my 30's and is married for almost 19 years and everyday, i learn, i tried, i receive and willing to offer and listen. Either i am weired or unique, but there a very few people i can relate to.
Not all men think that way... I've been with my man 4 years LONG distance and we aren't having sex. We are getting married this summer. He has told me multiple times he would still marry me if we couldn't have sex. Don't lower your standards ladies. There are men out there that will treat you like a Queen.
If you are not satisfied with your sex life with your partner, then you can always leave because there are some people who think that bad sex is a deal breaker. But if you love your partner very much and you are willing to make things work you can always teach your partner to spice things up to have a better sex life!
+Ktaressa I feel like the only people who can't be taught are those who are unwilling to learn. As a guy I always go into every new sexual relationship looking to learn and it has stood me in good stead. All too often guys thing they re the sh*t and they just aren't and from my experience women think that they have no role to play beyond just laying there and taking whatever the guy has to offer
+MsBrooklyn11232 I feel like relationships should never be judged based solely on the sex and I'm sure you all know that. Relationship is a two way thing that is influenced by many factors. And like most things, sex is a skill that can be learned. If you just talk it out then you'll both do fine. You may have a good man or woman with you who is honest, loyal, trustworthy and all that (also rich tee hee) you got all that good going for you..so just talk it out. Your next one may be good in sex but he may also be doing it good with other women/men. So I'd take a good man who sucks at sex over an eight timing man who's good with sex. Sex is a skill that can be taught...but who am i kidding I'm a virgin who's never been in a relationship sooooo
Ktaressa That's sad. Have you tried achieving your own orgasm? Is he unwilling to go down on you and why are you still giving him oral if you know where it leads? It sounds like you are in a marriage which makes it more complicated but you cannot just accept this, while sex is not the be all and end all it is still important in a relationship.
Really? The sex can always improve, what happened to working out the kinks or communicating? When I first got with my current girlfriend the sex was okay but not great, a few months and communication later and the sex is great. No Adrienne not all men think like that, I remember my flatmate had a girlfriend who was bad in bed after his previous by his account was a freak in bed. He stuck it out and she got better, apparently they watched some porn lol. Bottom line if you are both willing then it doesn't have to be a deal breaker P.s Tamar did not shade Vince, so what if he isn't great in bed, it's not the same as being bad in bed or saying it's okay. I actually gained some respect for her in this segment. You can always get better at sex, but you cannot always find someone who truly loves and cares about you. Give me a girl who loves me and we can work on the sex after.
+Aldora Addy look I wrote to and that's what the hell I meant so thank y'all now once again go pick up a grammar book and go correct some1 else I have an education I'm done with school so bye
Sometimes we can't have it all (good man, great sex, respectable man). Although some do, and what a blessing that is !I totally agree with Tamar, after experiencing the things in my life. I would rather have a man who treats me with the upmost respect, loves and adores me. Yes sex is important, but you have to work with what you have. Be blessed somebody loves you for you. Life is short, sex is good but a good man is better!!
UnexpectedWonder Hell will freeze over if u waiting on a female to take any type of initiative. Sex is no different. The man gotta get things rolling and if she decides to put in effort great but if not then take over. No big deal. Imma get my nut off one way or another!
I dated someone who was not good the first time and his package wasn't that great to be honest. But i didn't give up like some people. He got better every time. He asked questions, he asked if i wanted to use toys and asked if i could masturbate in front of him.. I think the question is does he/she want to learn to work it out. I would leave him if he thinks his fantastic and wouldn't want to learn what i like. But i believe it's immature to leave someone just because the sex was not good the first time..
BeautySyndromeBaby because people think sex is everything. I'm not generalizing bt I noticed, in the West, people get divorced over the pettiest things, things that can be resolved.As it is there are a lot of douches out there and if someone wants to end a relationship just because sex isn't great, wow , what a waste...when they could actually work on that issue...esp if the guy could be a great guy. Maybe it's my upbringing here..us in the East..in Asian culture, marriage is really something that you learn how to compromise and really work through till both parties find a way to b happy. Of course, cheating , abuse and anything of that sort are non-tolerable though, well to me at least. So yeah :)
You shouldn't lie if you're not satisfied. But if there is a way to work with what you have, then by all means do that. It's not bad being the teacher. That could be fun.
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I think Tamar was really saying that she doesn't need all that extra rough and tough type of sex, when she said mediocre is fine I think she's saying that normal sex , nothing too much is ok with her, I don't think she'd do Vince like that.
I agree I don't think she was saying that Vince is bad in bed. I think she was just saying that regular sex with your partner is fine. I agree with her. I'm older and mediocre is fine sometimes, but AMAZING is what you want occasionally.
Welllllll no one is born an expert at sex.. that comes with experience lol. There is so much more to a relationship than sex. If he is a good man, you show him what you like and how to satisfy you in that department - but make sure this is a man who is satisfying you in ALL areas, not just when it comes to sex.
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If bad sex will make someone break up with somebody, then we all really need to question are selves. No wonder why the divorce rates are so damn high, because people don't know how to be in real relationship now days. What if you find a amazing person who is a potential spouse, and leave them because they aren't good in the bedroom department? Then your gonna miss out on true happiness. Thats why I personally believe you should wait until marriage, since it will allow you to learn about your partner. And this will form a strong relationship. People need to stop living in the moment, and actually be wise and cherish a good thing when they see one. Get out of lala land and stop being superficial.
28 December 2017: I know I am late in my reply, but I just saw this show. This is an easy answer. From a man's point of view. If the couple are Not yet married and the sex is Always boring, dull and lacking, after talking it over a few times and still one partner is not hot then split up and move on. Sex is very important in a relationship. On the flip side, if the man/woman are already married and the sex has become dull and boring, then that bad or boring sex is Not a real valid reason for splitting up and divorcing. I know because I am living in that situation now. However, if there are lots of other negative factors plus dull boring in the bedroom then after talking about it and still nothing has changed then move on and find the right person, spiritually, physically and mentally. Life is too short to be in a dull boring long term relationship with no romance and no good sex. If it's more hot and passionate from both, then there is no reason to look outside of the relationship or marriage.
THANK YOU! Seriously it’s starting to get really annoying seeing people break up over this. Sex isn’t that important. If it’s important enough for you to leave then your values are all sorts of wrongs.
Y'all remember on Tamar and Vince when she lied on her lie detector test and said she fakes it , and on BFV when the frogs was going at it and Tamar was like Vince needs what the frogs need lol
BOOM! BC most woman have had a guy or guys who've blew their back out but their no longer w them. Why ddnt it last is sex is so important? It matters if it ain't good lol
I have heard that as well. So because of that reason, I would say yes, you should break up, but not before you try to work it out. If there is love, respect, and you guys were hot and heavy at one point, I think you could get back to that.
A relationship is based on alot of things, sex isn't one. My wife of 25 yrs is now going through the "change" and has went from "anytime, anywhere, anyhow!!" to "don't even think about it!" and I'm STILL with her
Love how when the women in the comments say sex isn't everything they're praised but when men do it's a different story... like women are supposed to put up with never orgasming but if a man does it infrequently it's somehow worse and the man's partner has to be dragged
I had this exact convo with my bff about a boyfriend.. she said leave.. I ended up showing and telling him how it's done and now we're great in that area ! lol
If all you're focused on is sex then you should sign up for a one night stand membership. Relationships matter and take work. As Tamera says "it's the icing on the cake". And Tamar said she'd have a good man over that any day. And you can always learn what each other likes if you talk.
If you leave a good relationship solely based on bad sex without even trying to talk it out or make it it better, it was never a good relationship to begin with.
Fucking Tamar gave me life she said "I got things to do...I like a lil crazy every once in a while, I like mediocre, lets have a lil balance!" Adrienne's face at 2:12 lmfao!!!
So if the sex is great but he's broke and has NOTHING TO OFFER YOU, you females will still stay with him ???? But the sex is not great but he could offer you the world you won't stay with him ??
Tovah Thank u! these female are bottom feeders mentally. Thats why we got 24 million FATHERLESS homes all across America. The sex is good but the relationship is toxic.Never thinking long term and home improvement but always short sided by instant gratification.Anything worth greatness and honor MUST Be BUILT.
Tamar should have just kept her mouth shut in this segment. The side eyes I was giving her👀 She was shading Vincent so bad 🌴🌴 Jeanie and her "quickie" ass need to have several seat and "make love". Lonie kept it all the way real.
Jeanie said quickie in response to Tamar saying she has stuff to do.. she didnt say thats all she is in for. I cant understand why you have complaints this segment was bomb!
madeyoulook Yes they can have different opinions. I just felt like what she said didn't paint her husband in the best light and if Vincent was to say something like that she would feel some type of way.
Jordan let me just say that sometimes, the icing don't match the cake. You come tasting some icing and you discover that it's cucumber with a hint of wasabi, so you leave not knowing that the cake's made of nutella. Sometimes, the icing isn't all that makes the cake, Jordan. First off, that's not how you get to know someone. The icing isn't all that makes a person. So no. THat's a shallow reason. When you turn 80, the icing will be dry but the body of the cake, is all that will be left. You cannot build a cake on an icing, you must remember. You gotta build the body well, too and often times, it's what we miss so much because we're too occupied with the different flavors of icing, but that runs out quickly.
of course sex is an integral piece in a relationship. but to say that its a deal breaker is ludacris. There will come a time when you reach a certain age where sex falls by the wayside, and the icing becomes how well you can connect with your partner on an intellectual level.
hanna said Even though he gave her a ring, that man did not want to marry her. Thats why she left n married Israel as soon as he asked. she was desperate to be someones wife
Consistent bad sex is more of a red flag than most are aware! If after you’ve attempted to guide or teach & it’s still not there. You’ve got to let it go. So yes, terrible sex is most DEFINITELY a deal breaker! That connection is undeniably important! I
Yes you should stay here's why, you should be able to communicate with your partner on what you do, and don't like. Practice makes perfect! So if you have a good man, but he's not satisfying you. Communicate that with him!
Was it just me or did y'all notice that the people at the table who said to leave are the single ones? And it's not surprising that y'all would shade Tamar (and Vince) for her saying to stick around and work on it. God forbid somebody truly loves their mate to do so.....
+1douglagyal right!! But had it been the other way around and Tamar was the one saying to leave but Tamera saying a good man is worth more the comments would've been entirely different.
Ya'll really be some hypocrites in this comment section. Had it been Tamar saying she would leave because of bad sex while the other hosts talk about staying and making it work for a good man, I'm sure ya'll would've called Tamar the WORLD of things. Hell, even goody two shoes Tamera was tryna hint that sex plays a big role in marriage and she would probably leave too if the sex was bad. Where are all the bible thumpers now? If Tamar had said that, ya'll would be up in here quoting the bible that sex is for procreation not enjoyment. I'm not saying any is wrong for their opinion (although I do agree with Tamar) but the hypocrisy is REAL.
***** you missed my point. I'm not talking about what people are talking about. I'm talking about what they WOULD HAVE said had the opinions of the hosts been switched.
I believe that some of what you're saying is true. Sex does play in relationships and it has always been that way since the beginning of time. Some people may be lying on themselves too, but it's really about what a person prefers. Like me, I prefer connection and history with a person over intimacy, because that what I always look for in a person.
I whether be with someone who isn't good with sex but treats me with respect, doesn't abuse me,etc. than be with a sexual man who is sexist, rude to be, and abusive. just saying. even tho I am a virgin sex isn't everything.
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@@staceyplusjonathan9420 I checked it out. That's interesting. I never struggled with being abstinent as a woman. Maybe it is because sex doesn't really cross my mind
good sex can be taught if both are willing, "loyalty, respect, compassion, intelligence, strength, & stability (in all areas) are more important. If the person has those qualities and I truly love them, then we can work on the sex part. Truth be told good sex w/out those 6 attributes I've listed are unless & will get old REAL quick....
In my honest opinion I don't think u should break up. All cuz the sex was bad, it just sounds like you're in it for the sex and that's it. That's why u communicate and be mature about it. Be honest with ur partner and just tell them the sex wasn't good at all. Try something different and then everyone's happy
I agree with Tamar. I spent most of my time to do other thing like life, work, loving and everything. Sex is like half hour per day. Well i want me a good lover to fill that 23,5 hours instead of that good fella who gives good sex and then be totally useless for the rest of the day.
I love temar that goes to show u that she wears has heart on her sleeve and that is much appreciated ! She’s not shallow. She cares more about the person love then the sex even though sex Plays a big part in a relationship but still she’s not shallow and I love her honesty !
If you are not being satisfied in the way you like, you can always TEACH YOUR PARTNER the ways in which you like. Have that talk people. But then again if there is no real chemistry then maybe it can't work.
At first it was awkward and uncomfortable because it was our first time together and we were nervous. Overtime it got better as we got used to each other. We love each other.
I agree with Adrienne and Tamar on this topic. Sometimes two people just can't have good sex and it sometimes can't be taught. But if you're willing to, have a talk about it and maybe try some stuff that'll make it better. Sex is different for different people. Some people think its not important so it depends on you. For me, it is important cause like what Tamera said it brings you two closer and is a great way for intimacy.
Yes it's true that sex or intimacy is very important in a relationship, but Love is more powerful and I don't think it's an acceptable reason to leave someone just because of that. You need to talk to your partner first and learn each others technique or set for an counseling.
I'm a man and I think that all that matters is finding a good life partner, who shares your values. You can choose sex over that, but you'll end up miserable and alone.
Adrienne always want someone to agree with her, instead of giving her honest opinion and just being real, it’s always a “yada yada yada, righttt *looks at audience*?” It’s not about sex. If that’s really important, your relationship not based on love, period.
Lmao I'm ....look ...uh....hmmmm.....I don't think Tamar has a choice but to like mediocre cuzzzzz you know and poor thang probably do all the work. No shade no tea . IJS
Total disagree with the breakation is the sex is bad. Just like Jeanny said teach the person what you want to do. You know what's funny people says a relationship is based on the sex but you're not sexing al the time.(I know that relationship and marriage is not for everybody) Think about it, do u sex ev'ry day,every hour of the day 24/7? It's not logical right?... My opinion is that you don't love the person at all but you love only the sexual behavior, that's is why many people this days does not know what real love is.... We are living in a era that everyone is like a sexual objects, just like animals that in the mating season. Sex and that's it, it very said -_-
I feel you, if its too big, you go crazy, if its horrible sex, you regret it, but you can always teach that person if you love them, and they good to u and your kids, and they pay bills, they not a user, hes the best guy over sex, like now, ive learned about not letting that area effect me, and then somehow i find the right person, which works out
If the sex is bad then you gotta go, *period*. Intimacy is a huge part of a relationship and if we can't do what it do then you gotta go. And if you don't know how to kiss then you really gotta go. So what we gon do? Lay in bed and read storybooks? Ya'll need to stop playin'.
I'm starting to like Tamar a lot more than Adrienne. Adrienne seems to care way too much about sex and not enough about every other aspect of a relationship.
It seems like she still thinks like a 20 year old. I think once she falls in love, it'll click in her head that there's so much more to being in a relationship than that, like the foundation that started you & your partner off to begin with. If there's something that isn't the "best" & if you're willing to continue to be in a relationship, even if there are some "flaws" well damn, work on it. If you're in too deep with someone, everything will eventually fall into place and you will see what matters.
+Sasha Murua If Adrienne wants this life with a husband and eventually kids, she needs to think realistically that it won't always be HER way when it comes to her sex life & obviously things are gonna change.
Sasha Murua Right. She still believes she'll have 20-30 minute sex every night even after having kids. She's in for a rude awakening. I don't even have kids and I know that's unrealistic.
First of all Adrienne is Puerto Rican. Now unless you've had sex with a Latina woman, you can't possibly be an expert on knowing the level of commitment they have during the act of making love. They have a tremendous appetite and literally put their backs into it and triple the output if they're in love. I know because I'm a brotha who has been with my share of PR women. Don't hate. Just lending my knowledge to the conversation. Cheers.
Adrienne seems as if she is only saying what men like to hear. As u can see, sex ain't everything. If it was she wouldn't be on her 3rd engagement and she wouldn't have been cheated on. Cut it out Adrienne, no1 really wants to have sex everyday. Well maybe at the beginning. Also, she say that she don't like taking money from her man cuz she got her own. Again, it sounds like she really wants to be what a "man" want smdh
what's so crazy about this segment is Tamar would of been lookin at Jeanie reeaal side eye if she spilled all her tea lk this, now Tamar usually don't share anything! concerning her relationship but she done Shared the ULTIMATE,😂 and ain't not one of them look at her lk they be lookn at Jeanie cause they fill she's embarrassing her man,.
Call me naive but I just feel like if you really love someone, and you're really passionate about someone, and you have really great chemistry with that person, mediocre sex can seem amazing because the chemistry and the attraction is there.
I don’t think so. A relationship is built on a emotional connection, not sex. If you think that sex is a deal breaker in a relationship, you’re just childish.
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I agree with Adrienne ! My boyfriend, the father of my kids wasnt on my time when it came to the getdown so I had to turn him out but now 5 years later I'm the one who's gotta keep up with him 😂😂😛
Tamar girl you lowkey unintentionally spilled some of your tea
Not really???
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Bebe Heart you can stfu
Rosemary who mad? U mad!
Rosemary lollll why you mad ?? Genuinely curious 😂
So Tamar basically said that her exes were better in bed than Vince but she prefers Vince as a husband. Interesting.. also she has mentioned that her exes were very bad to her and one even used to hit her. So she's basically saying that sex is just a cherry on the cake and you should look for someone who treats you right first and foremost... wise woman.
wise yes! but we gone have to pray to god about our sex life cause no honey you need to be able to satisfy my inner freak,
Yes, I think you hit it on the nail!!
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Agree with Tamar a good man is more important .
+Yasmine Xo Not that wise if you're gonna put your husband on blast like that in front of the world. That's how you end up losing the good man you have; running your mouth all day long about his business. You don't put the man you love on blast like that.
"maybe it's not your back its your front" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Xavier Thomas I died at that comment. Lmao. Rofl
And she out of shape saying that...hilarious
Omg that's my lonie 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loni is the last to talk about the front😂
A real husband stays irregardless, my wife hasn't touched me in years due to sever depression. I didn't walk out on her
YEARS!! im dyinggg, wtf get a divorce
Good on ya, sweetie, you're a keeper.
Marc Aliventi Aliventi Bless you
How old are you tho?
I commend you for sticking by her at least your emotional relationship is worth staying for smfh these people who saying she getting it from outside that's just crazy
" I know when that hotline bling...." Loni is TOO much!! lmaoooo
+Kim Lewis What did that mean? I didn't get the joke?
+dn2021 drake's song hotline bling lol
+DisneyStarsTube yes but what did that mean?
+ANNA ROSE It can only mean one thing 😉
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People act like sex having sex is the end all be all to everything life. I mean there's so much more than that. Be with people who love you for who you are and who support you through through thick and thin. Also, why are people acting like being bad in bed is a curse or a disability or something? Anybody CAN get better at sex. As a matter of fact, the majority of people are just hooking up, there's not making that GOOD love, you feel me? Having good sex is SKILL that ANYBODY can master, you just have keep it real, tell your partner what turns you on and what you like, and vice versa! And BOOM, getch'yo life! End of the story!
+Sava Brilliant comment. Love meeting people on similar mental wavelength's to myself.
Dallas Destilworth Thank you so much for the kind words! So do I!!! I love meeting my tribe outchere on the internet and IRL too!
Lol, the funny thing is I feel like we can only be found on the internet because it feels like deep thinkers like us are just too few and far between!
+Sava My goodness, you are a very wise person. Lately, i have being watching other cultures and to be honest, i got to see why so many relationship failed. I can't believe that nearly all those ladies believe that they would end a relationship if sex is not good. So after the act, what is left? What do we see in that person? When two being became one, they brings out the best in each other. Although, it's clear there is a difference between sex and love making. That's why in some society today, sex causes a lots of suffering, unwanted children, sicknesses, single mothers and fathers. Some people spent their lives having sex but never experience the joy of love making. That's why i will never blame society for how some relationships are today, i'd rather blamed the people. I am in my 30's and is married for almost 19 years and everyday, i learn, i tried, i receive and willing to offer and listen. Either i am weired or unique, but there a very few people i can relate to.
tweety's life WOW!!!! Standing ovation!!! You said it all!!!!
Not all men think that way... I've been with my man 4 years LONG distance and we aren't having sex. We are getting married this summer. He has told me multiple times he would still marry me if we couldn't have sex. Don't lower your standards ladies. There are men out there that will treat you like a Queen.
+Christy Beauty And no he is not cheating on me.
Girl he has at least 2 other "girlfriends" and you don't even know it 😹😹😹
nope haha
+Christy Beauty ok 2 boyfriends lol
haha
Hey Vince, how's the view from under the bus?
+A JAAY I'm in tears!!! 😂
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+A JAAY bhahhaha
Lmbo 😂😂😂
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If you are not satisfied with your sex life with your partner, then you can always leave because there are some people who think that bad sex is a deal breaker. But if you love your partner very much and you are willing to make things work you can always teach your partner to spice things up to have a better sex life!
+MsBrooklyn11232 I agree to some extent
+Ktaressa I feel like the only people who can't be taught are those who are unwilling to learn. As a guy I always go into every new sexual relationship looking to learn and it has stood me in good stead. All too often guys thing they re the sh*t and they just aren't and from my experience women think that they have no role to play beyond just laying there and taking whatever the guy has to offer
Ktaressa Did I read that wrong or are you saying that your partner won't learn?
+MsBrooklyn11232 I feel like relationships should never be judged based solely on the sex and I'm sure you all know that. Relationship is a two way thing that is influenced by many factors. And like most things, sex is a skill that can be learned. If you just talk it out then you'll both do fine. You may have a good man or woman with you who is honest, loyal, trustworthy and all that (also rich tee hee) you got all that good going for you..so just talk it out. Your next one may be good in sex but he may also be doing it good with other women/men. So I'd take a good man who sucks at sex over an eight timing man who's good with sex. Sex is a skill that can be taught...but who am i kidding I'm a virgin who's never been in a relationship sooooo
Ktaressa That's sad. Have you tried achieving your own orgasm? Is he unwilling to go down on you and why are you still giving him oral if you know where it leads?
It sounds like you are in a marriage which makes it more complicated but you cannot just accept this, while sex is not the be all and end all it is still important in a relationship.
Really? The sex can always improve, what happened to working out the kinks or communicating? When I first got with my current girlfriend the sex was okay but not great, a few months and communication later and the sex is great. No Adrienne not all men think like that, I remember my flatmate had a girlfriend who was bad in bed after his previous by his account was a freak in bed. He stuck it out and she got better, apparently they watched some porn lol. Bottom line if you are both willing then it doesn't have to be a deal breaker
P.s Tamar did not shade Vince, so what if he isn't great in bed, it's not the same as being bad in bed or saying it's okay. I actually gained some respect for her in this segment. You can always get better at sex, but you cannot always find someone who truly loves and cares about you. Give me a girl who loves me and we can work on the sex after.
Emerys the immortal 100% TRUE
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OK well we know now Vince ain't doin to good in bed!! damn tay tay u wrong 😂😂😂
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+Tywanna Grice ... No she's right it's too
+Aldora Addy look I wrote to and that's what the hell I meant so thank y'all now once again go pick up a grammar book and go correct some1 else I have an education I'm done with school so bye
+Caitlyn Jones Where did your hair line go and your edges TOO??
lmfao right😂
Sometimes we can't have it all (good man, great sex, respectable man). Although some do, and what a blessing that is !I totally agree with Tamar, after experiencing the things in my life. I would rather have a man who treats me with the upmost respect, loves and adores me. Yes sex is important, but you have to work with what you have. Be blessed somebody loves you for you. Life is short, sex is good but a good man is better!!
+Ice Queen And theres too much wisdom in what you saying hey....i totally agree with you
+Thobile Mhlanga Thanks sweetness, experiences I have and thank God for that. Although, I'm (we) still learning. Be blessed!
Yes lady!plus ,whoever said you can't get better at sex?
Amen to this comment!! 🙏
Ice Queen I needed to read ur comment right now! Thank u!
Observation: all the MARRIED woman said stay and all the singles said go.
BTW that's not how men think, it's how BOYS think.
Pretty much. I've personally never had Bad Sex though.
It’s pretty hard for a man to have bad sex lol
@@YoogiNation Not really. Some Women put in no effort. I've never had a Bad Experience personally, but I've heard horror stories.
UnexpectedWonder Hell will freeze over if u waiting on a female to take any type of initiative. Sex is no different. The man gotta get things rolling and if she decides to put in effort great but if not then take over. No big deal. Imma get my nut off one way or another!
@@YoogiNation Actually, when it came to Sex, the Woman pretty much always initiated if she was Horny how things would go down.
I dated someone who was not good the first time and his package wasn't that great to be honest. But i didn't give up like some people. He got better every time. He asked questions, he asked if i wanted to use toys and asked if i could masturbate in front of him..
I think the question is does he/she want to learn to work it out. I would leave him if he thinks his fantastic and wouldn't want to learn what i like. But i believe it's immature to leave someone just because the sex was not good the first time..
Hey it's Kate Totally agree. Someone may not know they are doing something wrong or what you like, so if they are open, why not try. Lol
Damb thats the best answer i have heard. Who ever is with you surely is blessed.
Good answer
Yes Ma'am.
hence, the high divorce rates in America.
+Nhaandhienyiee Harhedausche exactly.
+Nhaandhienyiee Harhedausche U mean because of the lack of good sex or because people think sex is everything??
+BeautySyndromeBaby lool good question!
BeautySyndromeBaby because people think sex is everything. I'm not generalizing bt I noticed, in the West, people get divorced over the pettiest things, things that can be resolved.As it is there are a lot of douches out there and if someone wants to end a relationship just because sex isn't great, wow , what a waste...when they could actually work on that issue...esp if the guy could be a great guy. Maybe it's my upbringing here..us in the East..in Asian culture, marriage is really something that you learn how to compromise and really work through till both parties find a way to b happy. Of course, cheating , abuse and anything of that sort are non-tolerable though, well to me at least. So yeah :)
I agree. A bunch of superficial people getting married for superficial reasons...
You shouldn't lie if you're not satisfied. But if there is a way to work with what you have, then by all means do that. It's not bad being the teacher. That could be fun.
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Now that’s some good advise.i like your line of thinking people and sex they think it’s that there is.sick
I think Tamar was really saying that she doesn't need all that extra rough and tough type of sex, when she said mediocre is fine I think she's saying that normal sex , nothing too much is ok with her, I don't think she'd do Vince like that.
Exactly
I agree. I def don't think she was shading Vince. people are reading too much into it
I agree I don't think she was saying that Vince is bad in bed. I think she was just saying that regular sex with your partner is fine. I agree with her. I'm older and mediocre is fine sometimes, but AMAZING is what you want occasionally.
Right
True.
Welllllll no one is born an expert at sex.. that comes with experience lol. There is so much more to a relationship than sex. If he is a good man, you show him what you like and how to satisfy you in that department - but make sure this is a man who is satisfying you in ALL areas, not just when it comes to sex.
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Michelle Hubes absolutely
If bad sex will make someone break up with somebody, then we all really need to question are selves. No wonder why the divorce rates are so damn high, because people don't know how to be in real relationship now days. What if you find a amazing person who is a potential spouse, and leave them because they aren't good in the bedroom department? Then your gonna miss out on true happiness. Thats why I personally believe you should wait until marriage, since it will allow you to learn about your partner. And this will form a strong relationship. People need to stop living in the moment, and actually be wise and cherish a good thing when they see one. Get out of lala land and stop being superficial.
mouna3242 I agree
28 December 2017: I know I am late in my reply, but I just saw this show. This is an easy answer. From a man's point of view. If the couple are Not yet married and the sex is Always boring, dull and lacking, after talking it over a few times and still one partner is not hot then split up and move on. Sex is very important in a relationship. On the flip side, if the man/woman are already married and the sex has become dull and boring, then that bad or boring sex is Not a real valid reason for splitting up and divorcing. I know because I am living in that situation now. However, if there are lots of other negative factors plus dull boring in the bedroom then after talking about it and still nothing has changed then move on and find the right person, spiritually, physically and mentally. Life is too short to be in a dull boring long term relationship with no romance and no good sex. If it's more hot and passionate from both, then there is no reason to look outside of the relationship or marriage.
mouna3242 I agree aswell
THANK YOU! Seriously it’s starting to get really annoying seeing people break up over this. Sex isn’t that important. If it’s important enough for you to leave then your values are all sorts of wrongs.
Y'all remember on Tamar and Vince when she lied on her lie detector test and said she fakes it , and on BFV when the frogs was going at it and Tamar was like Vince needs what the frogs need lol
😂😂😂
Lmfao yes
+Shae G. LOL! She surely did!
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Carmen London lol
When sex is good it accounts for 10% of the relationship, when sex is bad it becomes 90% of the problems of the relationship.
BOOM! BC most woman have had a guy or guys who've blew their back out but their no longer w them. Why ddnt it last is sex is so important? It matters if it ain't good lol
I have heard that as well. So because of that reason, I would say yes, you should break up, but not before you try to work it out. If there is love, respect, and you guys were hot and heavy at one point, I think you could get back to that.
A relationship is based on alot of things, sex isn't one. My wife of 25 yrs is now going through the "change" and has went from "anytime, anywhere, anyhow!!" to "don't even think about it!" and I'm STILL with her
That sounds depressing
Sex is definitely one
Brah what happens if you guys break up ? You gonna regret the times you could of had ?
Love how when the women in the comments say sex isn't everything they're praised but when men do it's a different story... like women are supposed to put up with never orgasming but if a man does it infrequently it's somehow worse and the man's partner has to be dragged
I don't think we should downplay the importance of sex in a relationship. Its binding...there's a such thing as a good man with good sex...
I had this exact convo with my bff about a boyfriend.. she said leave.. I ended up showing and telling him how it's done and now we're great in that area ! lol
My man was a tad outta rhythm. But i taught my man how i love it. Now hes the only man who has ever gotten me off. My mans a good man.
If all you're focused on is sex then you should sign up for a one night stand membership. Relationships matter and take work. As Tamera says "it's the icing on the cake". And Tamar said she'd have a good man over that any day. And you can always learn what each other likes if you talk.
Learning what you like doesn't matter if your partner is a pride or says no to everything.
Poor Freddie is lucky to get a Quickie
+Lara you wrong for this looooooool
LONI WE CAN'T TAKE YOU ANYWHERE!!!😂😂😂😂😂
If you leave a good relationship solely based on bad sex without even trying to talk it out or make it it better, it was never a good relationship to begin with.
"The cake is nothing without the icing"...the guy´s analogy at the end was on point.
Fucking Tamar gave me life she said "I got things to do...I like a lil crazy every once in a while, I like mediocre, lets have a lil balance!" Adrienne's face at 2:12 lmfao!!!
I'm surprised by Tamar's response, I expected that response from Tamera and Jeannie lol
hmm mm and ain't nobody say nothiinnggggg! they be so silent and shady when Jeanie spitting the truth
So if the sex is great but he's broke and has NOTHING TO OFFER YOU, you females will still stay with him ???? But the sex is not great but he could offer you the world you won't stay with him ??
Tovah Thank u! these female are bottom feeders mentally. Thats why we got 24 million FATHERLESS homes all across America. The sex is good but the relationship is toxic.Never thinking long term and home improvement but always short sided by instant gratification.Anything worth greatness and honor MUST Be BUILT.
Preach !!! 🙌🙌
@@oceaniamonarch5404 Truth !! 💯
Tamar should have just kept her mouth shut in this segment. The side eyes I was giving her👀
She was shading Vincent so bad 🌴🌴
Jeanie and her "quickie" ass need to have several seat and "make love".
Lonie kept it all the way real.
+Lade So well damn. They are allowed to have different opinions.
+Naomi Bargnani They are flip floppers that why
Jeanie said quickie in response to Tamar saying she has stuff to do.. she didnt say thats all she is in for. I cant understand why you have complaints this segment was bomb!
Chaleyki Leshauna if you watch past episodes where they have discussed similar topics, Jeanie has always Said she love quickies
madeyoulook Yes they can have different opinions. I just felt like what she said didn't paint her husband in the best light and if Vincent was to say something like that she would feel some type of way.
Jordan let me just say that sometimes, the icing don't match the cake.
You come tasting some icing and you discover that it's cucumber with a hint of wasabi, so you leave not knowing that the cake's made of nutella. Sometimes, the icing isn't all that makes the cake, Jordan. First off, that's not how you get to know someone. The icing isn't all that makes a person. So no. THat's a shallow reason. When you turn 80, the icing will be dry but the body of the cake, is all that will be left. You cannot build a cake on an icing, you must remember. You gotta build the body well, too and often times, it's what we miss so much because we're too occupied with the different flavors of icing, but that runs out quickly.
of course sex is an integral piece in a relationship. but to say that its a deal breaker is ludacris. There will come a time when you reach a certain age where sex falls by the wayside, and the icing becomes how well you can connect with your partner on an intellectual level.
Tamar was indirectly calling Vince mediocre .....Shade! 😂😂
When Jeannie & Adrienne say “it’s DONE” at the same time..it’s everything! 💁🏾♀️🔥
I guess we now know why Adrienne called off her engagement lmao
lol am dead
No Adrienne and her ex fiancé was together for years i don't think she would have stayed That long had the sex been bad
hanna said Even though he gave her a ring, that man did not want to marry her. Thats why she left n married Israel as soon as he asked. she was desperate to be someones wife
hanna said 😂😂😂
Consistent bad sex is more of a red flag than most are aware! If after you’ve attempted to guide or teach & it’s still not there. You’ve got to let it go. So yes, terrible sex is most DEFINITELY a deal breaker! That connection is undeniably important! I
Ugh. Not if you chase love instead of immoral lust
@@Joel-pg4yiBro the sex has to be decent though, No woman is loving a man that dont lay it down right💯💯
When Loni said "Sometimes it ain't your back, it's your front." I hollered.
Yes you should stay here's why, you should be able to communicate with your partner on what you do, and don't like. Practice makes perfect! So if you have a good man, but he's not satisfying you. Communicate that with him!
Was it just me or did y'all notice that the people at the table who said to leave are the single ones? And it's not surprising that y'all would shade Tamar (and Vince) for her saying to stick around and work on it. God forbid somebody truly loves their mate to do so.....
+1douglagyal right!! But had it been the other way around and Tamar was the one saying to leave but Tamera saying a good man is worth more the comments would've been entirely different.
Ya'll really be some hypocrites in this comment section. Had it been Tamar saying she would leave because of bad sex while the other hosts talk about staying and making it work for a good man, I'm sure ya'll would've called Tamar the WORLD of things. Hell, even goody two shoes Tamera was tryna hint that sex plays a big role in marriage and she would probably leave too if the sex was bad. Where are all the bible thumpers now? If Tamar had said that, ya'll would be up in here quoting the bible that sex is for procreation not enjoyment. I'm not saying any is wrong for their opinion (although I do agree with Tamar) but the hypocrisy is REAL.
of course the Tamar hate is real.
+madeyoulook Right
***** you missed my point. I'm not talking about what people are talking about. I'm talking about what they WOULD HAVE said had the opinions of the hosts been switched.
I believe that some of what you're saying is true. Sex does play in relationships and it has always been that way since the beginning of time. Some people may be lying on themselves too, but it's really about what a person prefers. Like me, I prefer connection and history with a person over intimacy, because that what I always look for in a person.
Super Girl Reread my comment. Thanks.
You shouldn't break up with him, just teach him how you like to freak and everything will be ok.
*SN:* Jordan is cute af.
Everybody can't be taught, just sayin
when they move on and the new girls have been like ohhhh he the man
+doinithealthystyle Yes everything can. You were taught to read and write. People learn to act and dance. You can learn how to kiss and f.
+osimeon00 I agree but some are not open to learn. When you have that conversation several times and you still want to do it your way you have to go.
LaShuna Hughes Lol I guess.
Chiiild! there goes Tamera with her icing on the cake quote again! ahaha!
As long as keeps icing her cake she'll be aight.
+doinithealthystyle huh???
Tony Raceva
I miss Temar she bought a little something extra to the show
Thank Loni for that
Yesss
I whether be with someone who isn't good with sex but treats me with respect, doesn't abuse me,etc. than be with a sexual man who is sexist, rude to be, and abusive. just saying. even tho I am a virgin sex isn't everything.
totally agree with you😃
Nehwon Mantor why can't you have both?
If youre not bangin you dont get an opinion you wouldnt even know
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@@staceyplusjonathan9420 I checked it out. That's interesting. I never struggled with being abstinent as a woman. Maybe it is because sex doesn't really cross my mind
How did tamera's ear survived from Tamar's noise!🙄🙄
Maybe that's why she was trying to speak too, so Tamar can shut up.
Mekdes Shiferaw ❤️
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Lmao at Tamar basically admitting that Vince is mediocre...
good sex can be taught if both are willing, "loyalty, respect, compassion, intelligence, strength, & stability (in all areas) are more important. If the person has those qualities and I truly love them, then we can work on the sex part. Truth be told good sex w/out those 6 attributes I've listed are unless & will get old REAL quick....
In my honest opinion I don't think u should break up. All cuz the sex was bad, it just sounds like you're in it for the sex and that's it. That's why u communicate and be mature about it. Be honest with ur partner and just tell them the sex wasn't good at all. Try something different and then everyone's happy
Adrienne and Jeannie's "... how it's done.*pout*"
We all know why Tamar is with Vince and it aint cos of the bedroom action
Lonis face every time Adrienne speaks is HILARIOUS
Vince must have been cringing so hard backstage!😂😂😂
Jordan won't you come my waaaayyyy
ayyyy lol .
Skwaaaaa!
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏 yaaaaa baby
Come put some icing on this caaaaaaaake
I will absolutely, most definitely, certainly would not stay.
Am still looking at these old clips so good
Ahhhh, Adrienne's hair looks amazing!!!!! Actually, everything looks great. Love her whole look, especially the makeup!
I agree with Tamar. I spent most of my time to do other thing like life, work, loving and everything. Sex is like half hour per day. Well i want me a good lover to fill that 23,5 hours instead of that good fella who gives good sex and then be totally useless for the rest of the day.
I love temar that goes to show u that she wears has heart on her sleeve and that is much appreciated ! She’s not shallow. She cares more about the person love then the sex even though sex Plays a big part in a relationship but still she’s not shallow and I love her honesty !
If you are not being satisfied in the way you like, you can always TEACH YOUR PARTNER the ways in which you like. Have that talk people. But then again if there is no real chemistry then maybe it can't work.
At first it was awkward and uncomfortable because it was our first time together and we were nervous. Overtime it got better as we got used to each other. We love each other.
Loni is toooooo funny 😂💀💀 and Jordan is 🔥😍 and Adrienne looks beautiful today 💖💚
"Won't he do it?! Hallelujer Amaaaaaazing" 😂
I agree with Adrienne and Tamar on this topic. Sometimes two people just can't have good sex and it sometimes can't be taught. But if you're willing to, have a talk about it and maybe try some stuff that'll make it better. Sex is different for different people. Some people think its not important so it depends on you. For me, it is important cause like what Tamera said it brings you two closer and is a great way for intimacy.
I'm glad I don't have to worry about this anymore. Good luck to those still in the struggle!!
Yass Tamar sometimes I can't agree but TODAY you put yourself on the highest class for intelligence boo , I agree with Tam 👌
Yes it's true that sex or intimacy is very important in a relationship, but Love is more powerful and I don't think it's an acceptable reason to leave someone just because of that.
You need to talk to your partner first and learn each others technique or set for an counseling.
I absolutely love this video!!!
I laughed the whole time while watching it especially at Ms.Tamar and Ms. Loni Love!!!!!
I'm a man and I think that all that matters is finding a good life partner, who shares your values. You can choose sex over that, but you'll end up miserable and alone.
Adrienne always want someone to agree with her, instead of giving her honest opinion and just being real, it’s always a “yada yada yada, righttt *looks at audience*?” It’s not about sex. If that’s really important, your relationship not based on love, period.
I have noticed that she looks to the audience for reassurance or something.
tamar we all know vince aint that "active" ...
No need 4 excuses
" i dont want nothing that's too good no more. ..i got things to do"😂😂😂😂🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Yes, Tamar 👏👏👏👏
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Yes Tamar for the first time i agree with you.. Conversation first
Lmao I'm ....look ...uh....hmmmm.....I don't think Tamar has a choice but to like mediocre cuzzzzz you know and poor thang probably do all the work. No shade no tea . IJS
+Maya Cee And apparently they got pregnant NATURALLY with Logan. Smh. I almost shuddered when I first heard that.
+osimeon00 I'm not goin lie I was quite taken back myself lmao let me stop judging these folks
HAHAHA
+Maya Cee LMAOOO omg nooo
All yall need a whooping. Everybody on this post needs a whooping. #WhereMyBelt
Total disagree with the breakation is the sex is bad. Just like Jeanny said teach the person what you want to do. You know what's funny people says a relationship is based on the sex but you're not sexing al the time.(I know that relationship and marriage is not for everybody) Think about it, do u sex ev'ry day,every hour of the day 24/7? It's not logical right?... My opinion is that you don't love the person at all but you love only the sexual behavior, that's is why many people this days does not know what real love is.... We are living in a era that everyone is like a sexual objects, just like animals that in the mating season. Sex and that's it, it very said -_-
I to bad I can't correct some phrases,..... My apologies I hope most of you understood what my point is or was .....
I guess the stage of life also matters...in your 20-30s yes but latter in life and when you are married it's about mutual help and understanding
I feel you, if its too big, you go crazy, if its horrible sex, you regret it, but you can always teach that person if you love them, and they good to u and your kids, and they pay bills, they not a user, hes the best guy over sex, like now, ive learned about not letting that area effect me, and then somehow i find the right person, which works out
If the sex is bad then you gotta go, *period*. Intimacy is a huge part of a relationship and if we can't do what it do then you gotta go. And if you don't know how to kiss then you really gotta go. So what we gon do? Lay in bed and read storybooks? Ya'll need to stop playin'.
Same thing w/ a bad kisser. If you can't kiss then we CAN'T......💋
doinithealthystyle YOU KNOOOOOW!
+LaCheleWallace You can always teach someone what you like. Why give up a perfectly good relationship?
Ki'ann Browne I heard that!
osimeon00 It has to come from within, bae.
I'm starting to like Tamar a lot more than Adrienne. Adrienne seems to care way too much about sex and not enough about every other aspect of a relationship.
It seems like she still thinks like a 20 year old. I think once she falls in love, it'll click in her head that there's so much more to being in a relationship than that, like the foundation that started you & your partner off to begin with. If there's something that isn't the "best" & if you're willing to continue to be in a relationship, even if there are some "flaws" well damn, work on it. If you're in too deep with someone, everything will eventually fall into place and you will see what matters.
+Sasha Murua If Adrienne wants this life with a husband and eventually kids, she needs to think realistically that it won't always be HER way when it comes to her sex life & obviously things are gonna change.
Sasha Murua
Right. She still believes she'll have 20-30 minute sex every night even after having kids. She's in for a rude awakening. I don't even have kids and I know that's unrealistic.
First of all Adrienne is Puerto Rican. Now unless you've had sex with a Latina woman, you can't possibly be an expert on knowing the level of commitment they have during the act of making love. They have a tremendous appetite and literally put their backs into it and triple the output if they're in love. I know because I'm a brotha who has been with my share of PR women. Don't hate. Just lending my knowledge to the conversation. Cheers.
Adrienne seems as if she is only saying what men like to hear. As u can see, sex ain't everything. If it was she wouldn't be on her 3rd engagement and she wouldn't have been cheated on. Cut it out Adrienne, no1 really wants to have sex everyday. Well maybe at the beginning. Also, she say that she don't like taking money from her man cuz she got her own. Again, it sounds like she really wants to be what a "man" want smdh
🤣🤣🤣 She said she don't want too good...Too good makes you crazy😂
If the sex is bad at the beginning ----- break! Or you stay and show the person how it's really done. Your option.
Sometimes it your front😭😭😭😭😭😭 Loni is amazing
I agree with Tamar so much on this!
Loni your comments are always crazy... love it! LOL
what's so crazy about this segment is Tamar would of been lookin at Jeanie reeaal side eye if she spilled all her tea lk this, now Tamar usually don't share anything! concerning her relationship but she done Shared the ULTIMATE,😂 and ain't not one of them look at her lk they be lookn at Jeanie cause they fill she's embarrassing her man,.
Tamar was keeping it real! People are thinking way deep into it.
bad icing will ruin a cake.
the icing is the structural integrity it holds the cake together
Lollll 2:50 I loved the part when Jeannie and Adrian are in sync about teaching him some things! 😏 so true
Tamar hit it on the spot w/ this one 😂👌🏼
Call me naive but I just feel like if you really love someone, and you're really passionate about someone, and you have really great chemistry with that person, mediocre sex can seem amazing because the chemistry and the attraction is there.
I don’t think so. A relationship is built on a emotional connection, not sex. If you think that sex is a deal breaker in a relationship, you’re just childish.
Everybody bow your heads! Lord we just wanna thank you for the beauty that is Jordan. We thank you for his smile, we thank you for his sense of fashion, we thank you on tonight for his REALness! In your name we pray. Amen.
***** Lol nah I'm just joking but you can't deny that he looks good
The woman in the middle secretly hates everyone
Stfu
Loni is the dam queen
Zara M that ain’t a secret
you might have been onto something lol
I agree with Adrienne ! My boyfriend, the father of my kids wasnt on my time when it came to the getdown so I had to turn him out but now 5 years later I'm the one who's gotta keep up with him 😂😂😛
I'm loving this segment
I agree with Jordan 100% Icing is very important.