Electrical Engineer and Options Trader Loves Selling Puts

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @jonb9194
    @jonb9194 3 роки тому +56

    Buying puts and calls = trying to get rich quick (10% effective). Selling (covered) puts and calls = getting rich relentlessly (90% effective).

    • @bidmcms3
      @bidmcms3 2 роки тому +12

      It’s not quite that simple/easy lol
      At least not for me

  • @bidmcms3
    @bidmcms3 2 роки тому +5

    16:47 what is a 5 delta short put?
    0.05 delta?

  • @FluxMD
    @FluxMD 3 роки тому +20

    Nice chat. Radiologist here, been trading short options for about 7 months. It's great. I might have my kids get GEDs and do it for a living.

    • @harshrajjadhav940
      @harshrajjadhav940 3 роки тому

      Med student here! Would love to hear more about you!!

    • @mangist
      @mangist 2 роки тому +5

      How's your strategy going since the market dropped 20% ?

  • @edmhie1
    @edmhie1 4 роки тому +40

    Electrical Engineers loves challenges and complex math. Also, here an Electrical Engineer, I started investing in stocks and I find stock so boring. Options trading is more challenging...when you taste your first loss in trading it, that's when get more challenged.

    • @stephelton
      @stephelton 4 роки тому +11

      Software engineer here, I can confirm. I love the complexity of options because it is all very intuitive to me and I feel like I have an edge as a result.

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 4 роки тому +3

      @@stephelton Chemical engineer here, I like options because you can set up some really interesting interactions between them.

    • @lupusk9productions
      @lupusk9productions 3 роки тому +3

      Network engineer here, love options so much! Can't wait to do this full time. Best WFH job ever.

    • @get_downed_boi6270
      @get_downed_boi6270 3 роки тому +3

      i guess ima fucking electrical engineer over here trading option spreads.

  • @alankerlidou2591
    @alankerlidou2591 5 років тому +13

    Thanks for sharing, David. Your story is a shot of pure inspiration juice! You just motivated me to toss my YTD trade history on a spreadsheet in the goal of analyzing patterns, optimizing risk:reward, and most importantly -> stepping up my game towards consistency and meeting 2020 goals. Thank you.

  • @PhanOT11
    @PhanOT11 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks. Great video. I have a question. He mentioned Delta 9, 10, what's that mean? Please explain. Thanks.

  • @badgerfishinski6857
    @badgerfishinski6857 2 роки тому +5

    How do you hedge? Are your CSP (core positions) assigned, and then you Buy PUTS to insure (hedge) against a crash while also selling covered calls to pay for the PUTS? or how do you pay for the PUTS you buy? Maybe sell a way out of the money PUT? please elaborate. Thanks for the interview and insight.

    • @bidmcms3
      @bidmcms3 2 роки тому +2

      Once your CSP is getting assigned, the underlying has likely already crashed. Especially if you start by opening 0.05 delta puts like this guy. So buying a put at that point is largely too late.

  • @lalajan2000
    @lalajan2000 4 роки тому +1

    I don't understand what he says after 19:30 in the video. Can someone please explain to me how is he hedging against market meltdown? He was talking about 4% drag, hedging etc how does he hedge if he is selling puts? spreads?

  • @gj4927
    @gj4927 4 роки тому +99

    " I don't think we're going to see a 2008 or 2009 " - this didn't age too well lol!

    • @Dannyboiigee
      @Dannyboiigee 4 роки тому +3

      ahaha! 4real!

    • @slowafmx2327
      @slowafmx2327 4 роки тому +11

      I love how we have these 20 SD "once in a lifetime moves" about every decade now it seems 😅

    • @eannane8712
      @eannane8712 3 роки тому +2

      I think his 5% rolling hedge paid though.

    • @longhegrin
      @longhegrin 3 роки тому +5

      @@eannane8712 5% rolling hedge, how did it perform during Feb 2020 until May 2020?

    • @abbottmd
      @abbottmd 3 роки тому

      @@slowafmx2327 leptokurtosis will do that

  • @TJPatriot74
    @TJPatriot74 2 роки тому +7

    I guess Tom didn't know the super secret handshake to talk about electrical engineering.

  • @drivegreencarcare
    @drivegreencarcare 5 років тому +7

    I'm from Chicago I'm starting to learn about trade options and calls you guys are a big help thanks for your video's 👍👍👍👍🥳🥳

  • @IkaikaArnado
    @IkaikaArnado 4 роки тому +5

    What is this so called 5 delta put strategy?
    Does one just spam 5 delta puts?

  • @ACR4008
    @ACR4008 11 місяців тому +1

    19:11 I wonder how this strategy worked during March of 2020

  • @awami1381
    @awami1381 4 роки тому +10

    Why they didn't touch on the strategy. All we know is he goes short 5 delta
    What about his stop loss and his hedge?

  • @burrellinvestments5952
    @burrellinvestments5952 4 роки тому +6

    Curious if he is okay in 2020.. hope so

  • @michaelpaul9179
    @michaelpaul9179 5 років тому +5

    Thank you for a great interview!!!!

  • @abdulaziztalmhawes8157
    @abdulaziztalmhawes8157 5 років тому +7

    I have learned a lot from you. That why I have to pay back by having an account with you.

  • @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw
    @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw 3 роки тому +8

    1000 point drop is nothing nowadays for a stock market correction. I think with more people trading we will see much more bigger drops!

  • @dansalvaggio
    @dansalvaggio 4 роки тому +3

    Stupid question: what’s a 5 delta put?? Is that the same as the 0.50 delta put?
    Been selling out of the money puts for few months now, making consistent profits of 1-3% per week on capital. I want to be more mathematical in my strategy. I kinda pick my strikes by gut feeling...

    • @G-y_m
      @G-y_m 4 роки тому

      .5 is 50

    • @harryj1081
      @harryj1081 3 роки тому

      Are those puts cash secured if you do not mind me asking a noob question, thanks.

  • @ralphaelconfer9719
    @ralphaelconfer9719 4 роки тому +3

    I enjoyed this interview. But I didn't understand the reference to dragging as a defense

    • @johto
      @johto 4 роки тому +2

      @@ScrambledDecksReviews If i may ask, what underlying are you carrying as a hedge, SPX or SPY? I'm assuming you have bought Puts and roll them as time goes on(what DTE and what Delta you have them on), also whats the ratio of the hedge to the overall net Liq etc...thanks

    • @Olliefox26
      @Olliefox26 3 роки тому +2

      Drag on a portfolio is where fixed costs (such as paying for a VIX vertical pread) "drags" or weighs performance by an expected amount. This trade-off is acceptable when managing large portolios and also when being exposed to greeks such as for option sellers who exposed to vega, or sudden spikes in implied volatility.

  • @stuartgreen9394
    @stuartgreen9394 4 роки тому +2

    What does he mean by having short delta/a hedged position?

    • @tastyliveshow
      @tastyliveshow  4 роки тому +3

      A position that is bearish (could be bearish equities or long volatility) , that hedges some of the risk in his short puts.

  • @thejourneymaninvestor6087
    @thejourneymaninvestor6087 3 роки тому +9

    "You could see a nasty pullback of 5 to 10%" .... *laughs in SPX 3 months later*

  • @alexz631
    @alexz631 5 років тому +4

    Hey David, good to see you here man. I also changed path from real estate to stocks 😉 much happier now. Good luck man

  • @samherb1
    @samherb1 3 роки тому +2

    Am I understanding the SPY 45 DTE Income strategy on your website correctly? It seems like you need a $1 Million plus account to do this with, right? How could I do something similiar with a $100K account?

    • @codesymphony
      @codesymphony 3 роки тому +3

      you can take in like 2k a month with a 50k account

    • @bidmcms3
      @bidmcms3 2 роки тому +1

      Just trade the same strategy with a cheaper underlying. Like SPYG, SPLG, or go 2x leveraged with SSO or QID if you’re feeling saucy

  • @mhaddadi
    @mhaddadi 5 років тому +4

    How he hedges his position, couldn't understand?

    • @markl69
      @markl69 4 роки тому +1

      Scrambled Decks superb video. Bro I have few questions on your hedge. Is there an email address I can contact you at? This was one of the best TT episodes!

  • @mhaddadi
    @mhaddadi 5 років тому +1

    Was it naked 5delta or spread 5 delta ?

    • @johto
      @johto 5 років тому

      i think naked

  • @bagfitted1380
    @bagfitted1380 4 роки тому +4

    People from or live in northern va always say Northern VA. As if it's a separate state from VA.

    • @CS-ww3bs
      @CS-ww3bs 3 роки тому +1

      Makes sense, it's like the division between north & south goes through the middle of VA

    • @richardfrench2863
      @richardfrench2863 2 роки тому

      N Va is a bunch of communist gov bureaucrats

  • @blink555
    @blink555 5 років тому +6

    Got a link to Davids facebook group?

    • @mhaddadi
      @mhaddadi 5 років тому +1

      facebook.com/groups/1930565613719977/

  • @DirtyAzathoth
    @DirtyAzathoth 4 роки тому +1

    New to option trading what % gain per year do people see?

  • @tehKettyBear
    @tehKettyBear 3 роки тому +4

    Can we get an update how this man did in March 2020? Did he blow up his account or no? I feel like everyone can make money in a bull market but how did he fare in bear market/black swan event?

  • @vinnyvidivici5930
    @vinnyvidivici5930 4 роки тому +2

    What is “delta neutral”?

    • @tastyliveshow
      @tastyliveshow  4 роки тому +12

      When your position has little to no directional risk in the short term. For example selling a put and selling a call both OTM, creates a range of profitability and is less reliant on direction.

  • @chaseramos4865
    @chaseramos4865 5 років тому +6

    I'm also a trader, engineer, and rock climber!

    • @dodawes
      @dodawes 4 роки тому

      😂😂 smh I think it’s a cult. I’m an engineer and trying to get my other engineer friends on board

    • @MyAcresOfDiamonds
      @MyAcresOfDiamonds 3 роки тому

      does train engineer count

  • @nicholasslodki703
    @nicholasslodki703 4 роки тому +3

    Engineer here. Tickles my math organs

  • @HerseySyntheticOil
    @HerseySyntheticOil 4 роки тому +3

    Good interview guys.

  • @ryzen89
    @ryzen89 2 роки тому +1

    "I design trigger mechanisms for bombs."
    "The government said I shouldn't say this."
    "No comment on the job, thank you."

  • @antaresVJ
    @antaresVJ 4 роки тому +11

    curious how well he's done these past few months selling puts

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic 4 роки тому +2

      You can follow him on facebook! He posts his profits/losses every week.

    • @stefanazcarate7914
      @stefanazcarate7914 4 роки тому +4

      @@ricomajestic wheres the page?

    • @stephelton
      @stephelton 4 роки тому +4

      One interesting aspect to options trading is that it allows you to treat trades in "time slices." This is relevant because downturns tend to happen very quickly, while uptrends tend to happen more gradually. So, for example, if you're constantly selling weekly puts and you manage your losers, you will have a statistical edge as long as the above is true (downtrends happen much more quickly than uptrends).

  • @AAa-tn5rz
    @AAa-tn5rz 5 років тому

    Do you know which episode of the show he's talking about around 6:00 mark?

    • @tastyliveshow
      @tastyliveshow  5 років тому

      should be this concept - www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=015477303216471237373:u_cnlyqjhzi&q=www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/market-measures/episodes/risk-and-rewards-managing-winners-and-21-dte-10-05-2018&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjMtLrn2ojmAhWIpFkKHRgdApwQFjAAegQIAhAC&usg=AOvVaw3wSEbNCH411Ig977NSnL3j

  • @boltman6359
    @boltman6359 5 років тому +2

    Masters Engineering degree from Princeton----thought he would have trouble reading a chart. lol

  • @nixodian
    @nixodian 3 роки тому

    Method for hedging a short put?

  • @mattv8434
    @mattv8434 3 місяці тому

    Just when I think I'm getting decent at trading, I listen to a conversation like this and realize what an absolute novice I am.

  • @michaelstarnes2297
    @michaelstarnes2297 3 роки тому +1

    22% is about the market rate of growth for 2019 till november...

    • @gsti1985
      @gsti1985 3 роки тому +1

      Without the market risk though. In other worlds he wasn’t swimming naked when the tide went down. 😊

  • @tyromeyamaguchi9016
    @tyromeyamaguchi9016 5 років тому +2

    I think my broker requires equity of over 20k in order to be approved for naked puts. what are some of the easier brokers to get approved for?

    • @tastyliveshow
      @tastyliveshow  5 років тому

      check out tastyworks.com!

    • @davez5201
      @davez5201 3 роки тому

      It's not a naked put. It's covered by cash. Pretty sure trading naked positions is illegal anyway.

    • @johnkim5125
      @johnkim5125 3 роки тому

      @@davez5201 naked short is legal as long as your margin can support it. But it's hard for a lot of people because of the steep risk if the market does collapse and it's not always easy for stop loss to catch it, so generally brokers put heavy margin requirement so that worst case scenario brokers have a lot of cash to burn before the fire reaches them... makes your position very small IRL even if your % is good.

  • @hasanz5259
    @hasanz5259 4 роки тому +1

    14:50 🔥

  • @shinbaek7186
    @shinbaek7186 4 роки тому +5

    Wonder how he is doing in the last 2 weeks.

    • @angpraktikalnatrader2380
      @angpraktikalnatrader2380 4 роки тому +2

      @@ScrambledDecksReviews can you talk about or explain how your hedging strategy is? thank you so much and i love the interview!

  • @blueloo1513
    @blueloo1513 4 роки тому

    Short put roll over - how does it work ?

  • @jfinca
    @jfinca 4 роки тому +4

    Everything is groovy until Feb, 2020...Not the best time to sell puts

  • @blackplasma6446
    @blackplasma6446 5 років тому +3

    Awesome!

  • @codesymphony
    @codesymphony 3 роки тому +1

    what is his hedge position? if it's only 5% how will that protect him during a crash?

  • @JeffAdairKTM530
    @JeffAdairKTM530 5 років тому +4

    inspiring interview

  • @rogjerr
    @rogjerr 4 роки тому

    My broker has these options for rolling, what does it mean???:
    Market
    Limit
    Credit
    Debit
    Even

    • @tastyliveshow
      @tastyliveshow  4 роки тому +2

      Market - Order is filled immediately at any price the market offers (risky but instant)
      Limit - Order is filled at only the price you set or better
      Credit - you receive money for assuming risk
      Debit - you pay money
      Even - Order is routed for $0.00 and you don't pay or receive anything, but still have risk.

  • @mochilata
    @mochilata 3 роки тому +6

    I just came upon this video, saw his primary strategy is selling puts, and realized this video came out before March 2020. Oof 😵

    • @longhegrin
      @longhegrin 3 роки тому +2

      It’s not an automatic loss. The 5% delta moves farther away, as volatility rises. Far enough, that your short put doesn’t get exercised.

  • @willsheehan2975
    @willsheehan2975 4 роки тому +8

    I liked selling puts until a couple weeks ago.. OUCH.. not a good strategy when you see 10% drops in a day

    • @MNTrader2012
      @MNTrader2012 4 роки тому

      @@ScrambledDecksReviews Link not working

  • @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw
    @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw 3 роки тому +5

    I thought rolling was a bad idea when selling Puts. You could get bigger losses that way if they work against you.

  • @satishwaghela8364
    @satishwaghela8364 5 років тому +1

    Very nice

  • @theshovel881
    @theshovel881 3 роки тому

    I like the dude with the hat

  • @idunusegoogleplus
    @idunusegoogleplus 10 місяців тому

    What's wrong with the audio cutting out every now and then?? You'd think someone as rich as Tom could hire someone to get the audio right.

  • @notrocksci
    @notrocksci 3 роки тому +1

    Seems like a lot of effort for 20%?

  • @scsmith4604
    @scsmith4604 3 роки тому +1

    He looks like the guy from Hawaii Five-O

  • @euphade
    @euphade 2 роки тому +4

    this man probably destroyed his account in 2022 lol.

  • @cruisecontrol4922
    @cruisecontrol4922 4 роки тому +1

    Being smarter than a billionaire doesn't mean much.

  • @Jimo225
    @Jimo225 4 роки тому +5

    how come every youtube video says its so great to sell puts. is this some conspiracy to get newbies to think they can make money selling puts so in reality they can get wiped out?

    • @whythissucks829
      @whythissucks829 4 роки тому

      check out r/stocksandshit on reddit. guy posts a bunch of trades weekly and you can see how he manages it.

  • @just.for.the.downshifts
    @just.for.the.downshifts 2 роки тому +1

    I think he works for Tesla.

  • @PPTPPTPPT111
    @PPTPPTPPT111 4 роки тому +4

    imagine getting margin called these past few days....

  • @chewie1355
    @chewie1355 5 років тому

    Sweet

  • @patricksuwala4090
    @patricksuwala4090 3 роки тому +8

    "well stock trading commissions are zero now"
    It must be nice living in a capitalist society ahahaha....
    In canada we still pay $10 to buy OR sell options. Canada has to be the most restrictive country to competition. Monopolies everywhere hosing everyone.

  • @hendogoodie
    @hendogoodie 5 років тому

    When a white belt in trading sits in and listens to black belts converse 😅
    Could you tell me or direct me to a video that
    Explains how to role a spread? 🙏

    • @tastyliveshow
      @tastyliveshow  5 років тому

      sure! www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=015477303216471237373:u_cnlyqjhzi&q=www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/market-mindset/episodes/rolling-defined-risk-credit-spreads-05-22-2019&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjpnNbL2ojmAhUGbawKHW0eAkQQFjADegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw0dC4rLaJDbDdMb3n5GG-vM

    • @nicholasslodki703
      @nicholasslodki703 4 роки тому

      Only a few brokers will give you this in an obvious manner. IB and TW seem to have their crap together on this

  • @BajaPete
    @BajaPete 2 роки тому +5

    total waste of time. no mention of trading strategy details such as chosen dte, delta, % of capital used/trade, etc.

  • @abrahamgomez653
    @abrahamgomez653 Рік тому

    The math in finance is a joke for engineers.

  • @Pizzaman-kv9ii
    @Pizzaman-kv9ii 3 роки тому +2

    So complicated to make 20%..

    • @mitahenare8901
      @mitahenare8901 3 роки тому +1

      20% on a million is great

    • @richardfrench2863
      @richardfrench2863 2 роки тому +1

      Hedge fund, mutual funds hava building of MBA's and they are lucky to beat the SP by a 1% point.

  • @bkhoavo
    @bkhoavo 4 роки тому +2

    Dude is too excited and interrupts too much.

  • @ilovebohol
    @ilovebohol 2 роки тому +1

    Whats David's Facebook page,?