"Improved" spectrum is not really accurate. The spectrum is simply a shift, rather than being "Improved". We now have 4 choices, instead of 2. You can argue that near UV is somthing you want esthetically, but is that an improvement? If we instead look at photosynthetic pigments, their is a drop-off with anything below 450nm. Anything under 400nm is non-photosynthetic entirely. Making that near-UV a pure esthetic choice, based off personal taste of how the corals look to your eye. And that shift may actually lower the photosynthetic related values of the G6 blue, as compared to the G5 blue. So for "coral health", the Gen 5 blue still looks superior to the Gen 6 blue on paper. While the variations in the Pro's seem negligible. This expanded selection simply provides a warmer or cooler spectrum option. I'm not saying the Gen 6 is "bad", on the contrary, the Gen 6 looks amazing. And the lens are an improvement, yes. But that represent the only legitimate "improvement" in the entire design. I love the Gen 5 overall, and the Gen 6 looks to be it's equal. Offering even better spread. But the argument this is a significant "improvement" is an argument EcoTech has not been able to show. No, this is EcoTech answering consumer demand by giving a better actinic spectrum. Which is fine. But, let's be clear eyed and call a spade, a spade. Looking at this clear eyed is an attempt to temper lighting manufacturers from chasing fads over biological requirements. Because not pushing back on fads is how this community had the completely counter productive "PAR Wars" that stagnated actual advancements. Which chased higher and higher numbers and ignored basic concepts like spectrum or spead. Personally: give me improvements that actually improves coral health, based of our understandingof their biology. Such as the len's more uniform spread.
I've had the xr15 glue G6 for about a week now, if you're keeping SPS this light needs to be mounted lower than recommended or you are throwing away way to much par. Just look at the side by sides par graphs in the videos, massive reduction in par with the g6. I've got mine just under 6" above the water and still have a crap load of light spill, and my SPS are now getting enough par everywhere
The best correction is the beam angle. The G5 is a Lazer beam that will fry corals. They are super powerful and only need about 25% intensity to meet 300 PAR.
The loose in paar is very strong and the only thing you will get with this is that light spill even more in your eyes than with the g5 you can see it it other videos. I never fried any corals with the g5 (but I used them all time with the Diffusor). But what you could fry is the led itself with the uv with plastic lense..
@@russeladams2003 I spoke with a manufacturer of light, he told me, they will probably hold between 2 an 3 years( in his test it can last over 3 years) then they may melt after. People will no more have garanty, perfect for buy a newer Modell then and for them to not more be responsiv..this is not good as when you buy led you want to save money against t5.. Not buy a new fixture every 3 years. Red sea, kessil and orphek for this reason all use glass lenses now. Ecotech could have do same if they took the time instead of rushing for not loose marker share.but it seems they not chose the customer service but the easy money. It was a brand I trusted until the g5 . For the g5 and g6 they not tell all the true and used misleading marketing claims. They not realise they will loose many customers like this or maybe not as many newbies not have the knowledge to realise this and jump in every new models same they do with phones.
@@russeladams2003 more than likely, for such a high end, high priced led sure has alot of defects, i like the vortechs and vectra line, but if they cant have uniform coloured leds throughout their units its time to go back to the drawing board, and really make something new and revolutionary not just swap out some colours and make the leds smaller and weaker with a slightly different optic and then demand such a big price tag.
Giessemann has a new light,pulzar G-3.A light that you can use under water.A review would be nice.Many people have closed aquariums and cant put the light above the tank.
Good time! I plan to buy an aquarium with dimensions of 1200mm *600mm*500mm (height). I plan to contain LPS and SPS corals, can you tell me which Radion blue lamps are needed for lighting ?
A pair of the XR30's will work great for a tank of that size. If you don't have a center brace, you could also consider three of the XR15's as long as you put some thought into the SPS coral placement.
You can definitely do that upgrade and all you'd need to pick up is an upgrade kit, not an entire new LED fixture. The main difference is that the G6s have improved optics so that you'll get more even and wider coverage. www.bulkreefsupply.com/radion-g5-to-g6-upgrade-kit-xr30-blue-ecotech-marine.html
48 ×24×24 lps and sps both in tank so which one light is best Xr15 gen 6 / xr30 gen 6 how much qty need and which one best and also suggest me pro ya blue
Three of the XR15s over a 4 foot long mixed reef would be a great lighting solution. Pro vs Blue is a bit of a personal decision based on how you like the tank to look. Both will grow corals, but as the name suggests, go with the Blue if you prefer a more blue looking aquarium. Go with the Pros if you like something closer to a daylight look or somewhere in between.
@@ThomasBReef Thanks for the response dude. I really want to get out of my T5's but ecotech makes it impossible to know how many units needed. (probably so you buy more .) I'll grill them at RAP.NY though.
HEI2.....on my 40$ Amazon light above my QT.....these led manufacturers need to quit playing games bc once the cheapy black boxes come with ramping they're....FUGGED SALES WISE ....the only thing these fancy lights offer now is built in timers and ramping...I have skys above my reef currently
Thomas always gets a 👍
ATI 8 bulb T5 , done. Leds for looks
"Improved" spectrum is not really accurate. The spectrum is simply a shift, rather than being "Improved". We now have 4 choices, instead of 2.
You can argue that near UV is somthing you want esthetically, but is that an improvement? If we instead look at photosynthetic pigments, their is a drop-off with anything below 450nm. Anything under 400nm is non-photosynthetic entirely. Making that near-UV a pure esthetic choice, based off personal taste of how the corals look to your eye.
And that shift may actually lower the photosynthetic related values of the G6 blue, as compared to the G5 blue. So for "coral health", the Gen 5 blue still looks superior to the Gen 6 blue on paper.
While the variations in the Pro's seem negligible. This expanded selection simply provides a warmer or cooler spectrum option.
I'm not saying the Gen 6 is "bad", on the contrary, the Gen 6 looks amazing. And the lens are an improvement, yes. But that represent the only legitimate "improvement" in the entire design.
I love the Gen 5 overall, and the Gen 6 looks to be it's equal. Offering even better spread. But the argument this is a significant "improvement" is an argument EcoTech has not been able to show.
No, this is EcoTech answering consumer demand by giving a better actinic spectrum. Which is fine. But, let's be clear eyed and call a spade, a spade.
Looking at this clear eyed is an attempt to temper lighting manufacturers from chasing fads over biological requirements. Because not pushing back on fads is how this community had the completely counter productive "PAR Wars" that stagnated actual advancements. Which chased higher and higher numbers and ignored basic concepts like spectrum or spead.
Personally: give me improvements that actually improves coral health, based of our understandingof their biology. Such as the len's more uniform spread.
I've had the xr15 glue G6 for about a week now, if you're keeping SPS this light needs to be mounted lower than recommended or you are throwing away way to much par. Just look at the side by sides par graphs in the videos, massive reduction in par with the g6. I've got mine just under 6" above the water and still have a crap load of light spill, and my SPS are now getting enough par everywhere
The best correction is the beam angle. The G5 is a Lazer beam that will fry corals. They are super powerful and only need about 25% intensity to meet 300 PAR.
The loose in paar is very strong and the only thing you will get with this is that light spill even more in your eyes than with the g5 you can see it it other videos. I never fried any corals with the g5 (but I used them all time with the Diffusor). But what you could fry is the led itself with the uv with plastic lense..
@@tomg5405 Right and they use the same cheap leds as the primes and hydras. but 395 so, meltgate?
@@russeladams2003 I spoke with a manufacturer of light, he told me, they will probably hold between 2 an 3 years( in his test it can last over 3 years) then they may melt after. People will no more have garanty, perfect for buy a newer Modell then and for them to not more be responsiv..this is not good as when you buy led you want to save money against t5.. Not buy a new fixture every 3 years. Red sea, kessil and orphek for this reason all use glass lenses now. Ecotech could have do same if they took the time instead of rushing for not loose marker share.but it seems they not chose the customer service but the easy money. It was a brand I trusted until the g5 . For the g5 and g6 they not tell all the true and used misleading marketing claims. They not realise they will loose many customers like this or maybe not as many newbies not have the knowledge to realise this and jump in every new models same they do with phones.
Rebadged undersold gen 5, hope they have finally sorted out their unmatching blue leds with multiple units.
Probably not. The g6 has cheaper leds.
@@russeladams2003 more than likely, for such a high end, high priced
led sure has alot of defects, i like the vortechs and vectra line, but if they cant have uniform coloured leds throughout their units its time to go back to the drawing board, and really make something new and revolutionary not just swap out some colours and make the leds smaller and weaker with a slightly different optic and then demand such a big price tag.
@@bopeep7806 I've seen that they stopped using cree leds in this light. Optics are like lipstick on a pig.
@@russeladams2003 agreed
I will stick with other brands
Can you test noopsyche k7 pro v3 please ??
What would you recommend to put on a 48x24x16 waterbox frag? I eventually want SPS. 2 xr30s or 2-3 xr15s?
Those par readings over the 24x24 were for a xr30 or xr15?
Giessemann has a new light,pulzar G-3.A light that you can use under water.A review would be nice.Many people have closed aquariums and cant put the light above the tank.
Are the able to connect to the apex or is it just Mobios
At this time, the Radion G6's are not Apex compatible. They are controlled via the Mobius app.
Good time! I plan to buy an aquarium with dimensions of 1200mm *600mm*500mm (height). I plan to contain LPS and SPS corals, can you tell me which Radion blue lamps are needed for lighting ?
A pair of the XR30's will work great for a tank of that size. If you don't have a center brace, you could also consider three of the XR15's as long as you put some thought into the SPS coral placement.
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What if I have Gen 5 Blue and I like to upgrade it to Gen6 Blue as well. What it will do?
You can definitely do that upgrade and all you'd need to pick up is an upgrade kit, not an entire new LED fixture. The main difference is that the G6s have improved optics so that you'll get more even and wider coverage.
www.bulkreefsupply.com/radion-g5-to-g6-upgrade-kit-xr30-blue-ecotech-marine.html
48 ×24×24 lps and sps both in tank so which one light is best
Xr15 gen 6 / xr30 gen 6 how much qty need and which one best and also suggest me pro ya blue
Three of the XR15s over a 4 foot long mixed reef would be a great lighting solution. Pro vs Blue is a bit of a personal decision based on how you like the tank to look. Both will grow corals, but as the name suggests, go with the Blue if you prefer a more blue looking aquarium. Go with the Pros if you like something closer to a daylight look or somewhere in between.
@@BRStv thank u so much helping me 😍🥰
@@BRStv kessil ap9x best ya radiaon
Surely you would be better selling your G5 then buying new G6 rather than upgrading a G5? Probably cheaper and you get new units
That's certainly another option if you don't want to upgrade the LEDs and lenses 👍
Company that owns BRS bought ecotech blows my mind hope that thr don't start making them in China
nobody wants to answer the spread question. what does almost 4 feet mean ???? christ it's like a big secret
I'm confident it will get an Investigates video that dives further into the data and performance!
@@ThomasBReef Thanks for the response dude. I really want to get out of my T5's but ecotech makes it impossible to know how many units needed. (probably so you buy more .) I'll grill them at RAP.NY though.
HEI2.....on my 40$ Amazon light above my QT.....these led manufacturers need to quit playing games bc once the cheapy black boxes come with ramping they're....FUGGED SALES WISE ....the only thing these fancy lights offer now is built in timers and ramping...I have skys above my reef currently