Thank you! My instructor has urged me to tune the A string with a tuner, tuning fork, or in unison with another instrument and then tune the other strings by ear. I have been more diligent/disciplined about this and find that it's getting easier to do. I often check my third andfourth fingers against the open strings because it's so easy to hear the dissonance when I'm off. It makes such good sense to expand on this with playing double stops on the first and second fingers as well I'm going to incorporate this into my scale practice as well as I've found I tend to land a wee bit sharp on my first finger.
Hello! This is marvellous and very well described! You're developing your listening skills greatly by comparing notes and intervals and you're right, it does get easier. Comparing all our notes to the open strings and stopped notes is a very superior and effective way to train our ears rather than using a tuner to just check single notes. With a tuner we just don't develop the essential skill of listening to and understanding intervals and relationships in notes and keys. We're much better of as violinists in the long run to do proper ear training by comparing everything to our open strings to give us wonderful violinistic intonation and sensibility. Thanks again! Mary❤
Hola Mary! Mil gracias como siempre por tus magníficos consejos!👏👏👏👏👏 Como bien dices, entrenar el oído es fundamental. Lo he leído y lo he escuchado muchas veces...es una de las mejores recomendaciones para progresar con el violín... Sobre mover la cabeza me parece muy, muy interesante...lo voy a experimentar hoy mismo😊 Antes de empezar un concierto, cuando los músicos están afinando sus instrumentos...es un momento maravilloso para mí...Disfruto escuchándoles y observándoles cómo se concentran...y después empiezan a tocar mientras yo me muero de envidia😂😂😂 Un abrazo enorme Mary!🤗💚🎶💜🎻
Hello Lola! Thank you very much for your lovely words...you know, it's very interesting about the head moving. I really learned about it when in various positions in orchestras. Depending where I was sitting in a large orchestra, I realised I could hear various sections of the orchestra much better depending on how I placed my head and it became second nature. But out of orchestra, say when playing with a piano, the sound isn't coming from only your violin, but another source and the head again must use the advantage of movement to highlight different sounds into our two ears - it's fascinating how we learn to balance the difference between our ears... I'm very interested in your observations on this aspect Lola. You must join an orchestra!!! A huge hug and much love, Mary❤
Hello Nickie! It's fantastic that you can tell immediately when a note is off - it's really all you need to make improvements to intonation. Well done! Mary💗
Hi Mary, when I tune my A string using a tuner set to 440 then tune the D to the perfect 5th as you do (to the A), I find the tuner shows the D a little lower than perfect pitch on the tuner. It is a little lower on the tuner but it is in perfect pitch with the A. The same goes for the G string.
Hello! It's a bit difficult to understand exactly what's going on with your tuner...so you start by tuning the A to 440. Then you tune the D, but the tuner sounds too low for you? It's hard to understand what you mean when you say ;'I find the tuner shows the D a little lower than perfect pitch on the tuner.' By 'perfect pitch' do you mean it sounds in tune to you? Or you tune the A and D using the tuner but the violin doesn't sound in tune when you play both strings together? Is it possible you're relying too much on your tuner? It's great to use it to tune the A string to 440, but after that intonation isn't about matching single notes with a tuner. Intonation is a comparative judgement between notes that is one of the most important violin techniques to learn. We need to set about training and developing our sense of intonation by comparing all our notes to the open strings in the way I've described in the video. The tuner can be used occasionally, but not for absolutely everything because we have to make our own notes on the violin and we need to train our ears to know by comparison what's in tune or not. Over-reliance on the tuner doesn't give us that essential comparative judgement that only working with our open strings gives us. Mary❤
@violinstudiowithmaryv when I tune the D string to the A string it is in tune. But when I check the D string on the tuner, if I were to tune it to exact pitch according to the tuner, it would be out of pitch to the A string. I'm in full agreement with your technique. It is just that my question is: why is it when I tune the D to the A and there is no warboling but when I check the D string by the tuner it looks a little flat. Nonetheless it is in tune with the a string.
because most tuners are tempered and when you tune your perfect fifth it will have a difference of 2 cents, meaning in A440 0cent you got E +2cent, D-2cent and G-4 cents. on cello and viola the C goes to -6 cents when you tune with doble stops, which makes the open C from those instrument not be in tune with the open E of the violin.
@@TNungesser You may know there's something called 'equal temperament' and then there's 'tempered pitch'. Centuries ago it was realised that tuning all notes equally throughout instruments led to larger and larger discrepancies between intervals, so tuning had to be 'tempered,' meaning that it needs to be adjusted very slightly to 'sound in tune.' So the 'feel' of the key is important for violinists as we adjust musically to making the notes 'pleasing' and in tune. There are plenty of technicalities involved with tuners, but for violinists it comes down to the feel of the basic open strings and the feel of the key. I'm particularly pleased that you are able to 'know' when your strings are in tune! It's a crucial fundamental skill that develops enormously as we progress. We develop our ability to feel and hear our violin's frequencies based on the 5ths of the open strings and the violin telling us what is open and 'right.' That's ear training! Mary❤
Thank you! My instructor has urged me to tune the A string with a tuner, tuning fork, or in unison with another instrument and then tune the other strings by ear. I have been more diligent/disciplined about this and find that it's getting easier to do. I often check my third andfourth fingers against the open strings because it's so easy to hear the dissonance when I'm off. It makes such good sense to expand on this with playing double stops on the first and second fingers as well I'm going to incorporate this into my scale practice as well as I've found I tend to land a wee bit sharp on my first finger.
Hello! This is marvellous and very well described! You're developing your listening skills greatly by comparing notes and intervals and you're right, it does get easier.
Comparing all our notes to the open strings and stopped notes is a very superior and effective way to train our ears rather than using a tuner to just check single notes.
With a tuner we just don't develop the essential skill of listening to and understanding intervals and relationships in notes and keys.
We're much better of as violinists in the long run to do proper ear training by comparing everything to our open strings to give us wonderful violinistic intonation and sensibility. Thanks again! Mary❤
Great lesson! Thank you!
Hello! Thank you very much and you've got very interesting violins on your channel...Mary❤
Hola Mary! Mil gracias como siempre por tus magníficos consejos!👏👏👏👏👏 Como bien dices, entrenar el oído es fundamental. Lo he leído y lo he escuchado muchas veces...es una de las mejores recomendaciones para progresar con el violín... Sobre mover la cabeza me parece muy, muy interesante...lo voy a experimentar hoy mismo😊
Antes de empezar un concierto, cuando los músicos están afinando sus instrumentos...es un momento maravilloso para mí...Disfruto escuchándoles y observándoles cómo se concentran...y después empiezan a tocar mientras yo me muero de envidia😂😂😂 Un abrazo enorme Mary!🤗💚🎶💜🎻
Hello Lola! Thank you very much for your lovely words...you know, it's very interesting about the head moving. I really learned about it when in various positions in orchestras. Depending where I was sitting in a large orchestra, I realised I could hear various sections of the orchestra much better depending on how I placed my head and it became second nature. But out of orchestra, say when playing with a piano, the sound isn't coming from only your violin, but another source and the head again must use the advantage of movement to highlight different sounds into our two ears - it's fascinating how we learn to balance the difference between our ears...
I'm very interested in your observations on this aspect Lola.
You must join an orchestra!!!
A huge hug and much love, Mary❤
Thank you!
Thank you! Mary❤
Thank you very much for a wonderful video ❤
Hello, I' delighted you liked the video - thank you!
Mary❤
Thanks Mary, this is priceless information. Playing two strings at once rarely sounds good to me, but I can sure tell when a note is off.
Hello Nickie! It's fantastic that you can tell immediately when a note is off - it's really all you need to make improvements to intonation.
Well done! Mary💗
Hello !You mentioned the important and fundamental issue in playing the violin !
Thank you very much !
Greetings from Iran🌹🌺🌼🍀
Hello there! Thank you very much, I'm delighted you liked the video and it's so nice to hear from you in wonderful Iran! Take care. Mary❤
Hi Mary, when I tune my A string using a tuner set to 440 then tune the D to the perfect 5th as you do (to the A), I find the tuner shows the D a little lower than perfect pitch on the tuner. It is a little lower on the tuner but it is in perfect pitch with the A. The same goes for the G string.
Hello! It's a bit difficult to understand exactly what's going on with your tuner...so you start by tuning the A to 440. Then you tune the D, but the tuner sounds too low for you?
It's hard to understand what you mean when you say ;'I find the tuner shows the D a little lower than perfect pitch on the tuner.'
By 'perfect pitch' do you mean it sounds in tune to you?
Or you tune the A and D using the tuner but the violin doesn't sound in tune when you play both strings together?
Is it possible you're relying too much on your tuner? It's great to use it to tune the A string to 440, but after that intonation isn't about matching single notes with a tuner. Intonation is a comparative judgement between notes that is one of the most important violin techniques to learn.
We need to set about training and developing our sense of intonation by comparing all our notes to the open strings in the way I've described in the video.
The tuner can be used occasionally, but not for absolutely everything because we have to make our own notes on the violin and we need to train our ears to know by comparison what's in tune or not. Over-reliance on the tuner doesn't give us that essential comparative judgement that only working with our open strings gives us. Mary❤
@violinstudiowithmaryv when I tune the D string to the A string it is in tune. But when I check the D string on the tuner, if I were to tune it to exact pitch according to the tuner, it would be out of pitch to the A string.
I'm in full agreement with your technique. It is just that my question is: why is it when I tune the D to the A and there is no warboling but when I check the D string by the tuner it looks a little flat. Nonetheless it is in tune with the a string.
because most tuners are tempered and when you tune your perfect fifth it will have a difference of 2 cents, meaning in A440 0cent you got E +2cent, D-2cent and G-4 cents. on cello and viola the C goes to -6 cents when you tune with doble stops, which makes the open C from those instrument not be in tune with the open E of the violin.
@kamikan22 thank you. Why don't they make tuners account for these differences?
@@TNungesser You may know there's something called 'equal temperament' and then there's 'tempered pitch'. Centuries ago it was realised that tuning all notes equally throughout instruments led to larger and larger discrepancies between intervals, so tuning had to be 'tempered,' meaning that it needs to be adjusted very slightly to 'sound in tune.'
So the 'feel' of the key is important for violinists as we adjust musically to making the notes 'pleasing' and in tune.
There are plenty of technicalities involved with tuners, but for violinists it comes down to the feel of the basic open strings and the feel of the key.
I'm particularly pleased that you are able to 'know' when your strings are in tune! It's a crucial fundamental skill that develops enormously as we progress.
We develop our ability to feel and hear our violin's frequencies based on the 5ths of the open strings and the violin telling us what is open and 'right.' That's ear training! Mary❤