He said “I had a compass” because he used the calculations of time and direction to determine their drop zone would be in Normandy. At that time it was classified. The next scene cuts to it being revealed at the regimental and then battalion and company level what their mission was.
Reminds me of an episode of the Sullivan's from the 70's. The young fella didn't have a compass. He determined his location from the gear changes, time travelled and vehicle movement. ❤
@@Whykickamoocow And then there's the legend that " a common sailor on the flagship tried to warn Admiral Shovell that the fleet was off course, but the Admiral had him hanged at the yardarm for inciting mutiny". The next day the flagship, with all hands, and much of the Admirals fleet, went aground, with the loss of almost all hands. That was in 1707.
This is the first of the ten breakdowns that are on the way for Band Of Brothers. I hope you enjoy the video! Let me know what your favourite episode of the show is... Episode 6, Episode 9, Episode 10. Every episode is genuinely a masterpiece but i'd be intrigued to know which are your favourites!
I thought that the whole show was exceptional. Being a history nerd, I knew most of this and thought that the portrayals were so true. Of course, I always enjoy historical accurate shows. Still my favorite was near the end when they freed the inmates of the concentration camp. It showed how inhumane that human beings can be, and the Americans reaction to it. Now we see similar things happening today with renewed anti-semitism and ignorance of history.
Sobel jumped into Normandy on D-day, assembled an ad-hoc group of troopers and took out a German MG nest for which he earned the Bronze Star. BoB completely leaves this out in order to tell the story. It seems to be popular to slag him off, but the man served his country, retired as a Lt Colonel and had a horrible end to his life in 1987. Thank you for your Service Lt. Colonel Sobel.
Agreed! As much of a hard line Sobel drew based on the accounts of those who were there, they also credited him for their survival throughout the war. The level of discipline he drilled into Easy company clearly paid off in spades🫡
@@raresaturn Yes, he was sent to Chilton Foliat which is not that far from where the 101st was in Upottery. It was for Chaplains and other non-combat types to go through jump training. After that he jumped into Normandy with the rest of the 101st.
I am so excited about your reviewing this perfect series. Every episode brings me to tears. I watched this for the first time while I was serving in Iraq. Leadrship is everything but unit cohesion is a must. My favorite moment in episode 1, the lone solider running up Currahee alone, only to be joined by his Brothers as he made it to the top. (oh and my very second favorite...the NCO's refuse to follow Sobel and still saluted Winters on the way out.. 😭Great show. Keep them coming! I'm ready. EASY COMPANY!!!
The final shot as the planes, one by one, take to the air, the silhouettes of those watching and saluting from the ground, it just tears me apart every time.
I think that David Schwimmer deserves great credit for his portrayal of Sobel.. It's great when an actor gets to portray a hero, and perhaps even greater when they can play a throughly villianous character, but Sobel was neither. (He was a bit of a screw-up, really...) Schwimmer really captured who he was, not necessarily a 'bad guy' but just not a hero or indeed a villian. (Shwimmer had to but his 'actor's ego' in his back pocket to play that part...) respect. xx SF
The Union Army's George McClellan was a similar character to Sobel, but his men actually loved him. He was responsible for training and equipping the Army of the Potomac and making them into the army that defeated Lee, but McClellan was no combat commander and was relieved by Lincoln twice because of his hesitation to fight Lee.
Thanks for these breakdowns. Just finished my first ever watch through. Can’t believe it’s taken me this long to get round to watching it. The best TV series I’ve seen, Season 1 True Detective is very close though.
Glad you enjoy the videos! Just released my episode 4 breakdown too. And yeah TD Season 1 is so good. If they hadn't have made three more seasons, I think it would be up there in the highest rated shows ever as well. The following three drag it down slightly
7:15, 8:05, 9:07, 9:49 angrily aware of his own tactical blunders in comparison to Winters' emerging prowess, Sobel sensed Winters could overtake his leadership in combat and formed a plot to discredit him. He issued Winters an Article 15 for not inspecting the latrine, because Sobel had changed the time from 10.00 hours to 09.45, though Winters wasn't informed of this change. Richard was given a choice - denial of a weekend pass for 2 months, or challenge the charge via court-martial. *Winters, immediately recognizing Sobel's motives and how the imposition of nonjudicial punishment would keep him from the Normandy jump, trumped Sobel with a written demand for a court-martial instead, which would keep both him and Sobel from the jump for the proceedings. Sobel was alarmed at this unexpected twist.*
@@theroachden6195 Sobel's dirty trick was that denying the weekend pass for 2 months would force Winter to remain in England while Sobel would control the unit alone. Winter, in contesting the accusation through court-martial, did this to prevent Sobel from going to Europe and leading the men of the 101st to certain death.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
so i grew up with these Scallywags back in the 90's after i joined the E/506th Living History Unit. all the vets you see talking at the start would visit us at events. drink sing and share stories. a lot of things are left out or have been changed esp in the 2nd episode some things didn't really happen the way it's shown. some things the vets never shared as they didn't trust the author of the book. but this still is a powerful series going strong after all these years. If you want a good podcast that started recently check out "Were Not Lost Private Podcast"
Great job bud! Seen a couple Masters of the air and saw you were going to cover this show as well. Totally enjoyed it. Kindof wished it were a little longer to be honest. Hell. I could sit for hours and listen to it!
As soon as I saw you'd be reviewing this show I started to rewatch. I'm a huge fan - started following you because of Better Call Saul (best show ever!) and recently enjoying True Detective and Feud. I'll have to take a deep dive into your channel to see what I may have missed. I'd love to see you cover: Dark Winds The Diplomat Mindhunter Six Feet Under Thank you!
This chestnut of "Sobel was valuable because he trained them just right" sounds good. Makes the overly harsh dicipline seem like it served some purpose. Quite doubtful. Can anyone really say that if Winters or someone like him had trained Easy Company, they wouldn't have been just as ready? Right - didn't think so.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
Great breakdown of the episodes. But I find it sad a movie about real heroes of our greatest generation come in behind a movie about a drug dealing teacher. This country has screwed up ideas of morality and what kind of people should be admired.
I wasn't sure either. However, it seems the guy that made the video needed a few things explained. Most obvious spots were "capturing" the guy on the bike, and the use of a compass to figure out directions.
The British guy was just having a laugh he wasn’t part of the training exercise as c company wasn’t even in the right place at the time so he couldn’t have been apart of the exercise
Capturing the old Englishman on his bike was not the objective of the training exercise, just an amusing bonus. And the old boy had a scense of humour. 😂 “You’ve done it now Yanks. You’ve captured me.”
yes there are several mistakes with this "breakdown" this being one of them, the objective was simply to be on time, reading a map and deploying to cover the crossroad. if the old man was the objective the 1st platoon would have stopped and grabbed him, or the second platoon, or the third lol, they all just ran into position including winters after the joke from the old man. second one was "I have a compass" wasn't a password, he had a compass and they figured out where they would be jumping "yup its Normandy every time" i stopped there.
I think the bike scene shows the first time that Winters openly admits Sobel to be bad for the company ("would that be the enemy?", to which Winters replies, "as a matter of fact, yes").
@@BrainPilot Possibly, but the ol chap asked "would that be the enemy" as Sobel came charging up the middle of the road and shouting HI HO SILVER! I think this was an exercise for each platoon to take the same objective and the first one there would be the victor.
My father was in the infantry that hit Omaha Beach on DDay and was in the unit/s that went thru Europe until VE Day with these paratroopers . I’ve heard all of these exact stories and places from 50-60 years back and watching this series I now have a glimpse of the hardships these incredibly brave men went thru. My dad died 29 years ago next month and I miss him so much.
Just keeping you guys aware, I did release a breakdown on Episode 2 yesterday, but it got blocked this morning. I'm currently working through the dispute and hoping it will be able to get put live again!
I work on a ship as a Deck Cadet, My Sobel was my Chief Mate/Officer which pushed us cadets to our limits. Although I personally hated how he handled us, we respected his goal of training us cadets to future ship officers
You are way off in your analysis dude. Nix wasn't looking ahead. Nix was trying to ignore his situation. It's what Nix always does. Drinks to forget drinks to ignore drinks to try to get out of his current situation. That's why he was an alcoholic.
@@Widnu Only the opening line was a Ross-ism ("You PEOPLE... are at a position of attention!" Hahahaha look it's Ross in the military..) as if they're getting it out of the way, "yes this is David Schwimmer get over it". Everything after that he's just Sobel and I don't think of Ross at all.
Band of brothers is so damn good and it's what got me into world war two as a teenager in Ireland. I'll never forget this first episode being aired on TV, it actually captivated me and I seen Ross from Friends and thought it was going to be a comedy or something. After 10 minutes Ross from friends was gone! I seen Captain Sobel, his performance was magnificent. Made the rest of the men likeable because Sobel was so unlikeable which worked perfectly. By the end I was totally convinced that I was witnessing the greatest show ever made.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
The first time I watched BoB I took the normal view of Sobel. Upon a rewatch I found myself admiring the work he did. Sobel knew he was hated and wanted to be hated. This gave the men a motivation and a common enemy. He also knew not to let them celebrate until there was a real reason to celebrate. When he was promoted for their success, he couldn't share this with them because the job wasn't over, so he went immediately into an inspection to make them hate his success. Even with Winters" promotion he downplayed it like it was forced and not really earned and he still had to prove it. Sobel was failed in his training that he was never fully developed as a field leader. Why were his shortcomings never addressed and corrected? Sobel was hurt by being fired as CO. He seemed to have a good grasp on human trauma phycology and bringing men together and how to do so but was unable to read people to determine if they ever really understood he wasn't really their enemy but was doing it for them. Most of the men years later did come to this conclusion and credit Sobel for making them the best.
I lost count how many time i watched BoB over the past decades. It never ever gets old and always be number 1 in my eye. The pacific is ehh. But the new serie about the 100th bomber is getting closer to number 2. It's so emotional if we we spent the same time like we did with the crew the way we did with BoB it probably would be super hard to watch as always all our crew don't come back.
After being drafted in ‘43, my dad served 30 years in the army, 26 of them jumping out of perfectly good airplanes. Pretty much he intimated to me that the $50 sure was a help in supporting his mom, but he also liked the fact the paratroopers were supposed to be tip of the spear, jumping and fighting for a limited time before being pulled off the line to prepare for the next mission.
When your Company Commander was more hated than the Germans...adding that he was totally inept. Growing up in Chicago, Sobel was picked on for being Jewish even though his father was successful in business. There is speculation that his over the top lashing out was some type of psychological payback against any gentile.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
That scene about signing your life insurance right before the jump is so far off base it hurts to watch it. That stuff is taken care of way before that, it's actually inprocessing paperwork. I know the point they were trying to make but they should have done it another way. As far as Sobel, he deserves way more credit than he got. Maybe a bad leader, who knows for sure, but maybe the best trainer I have ever heard of, for that time.
When Winters demanded a trial by court martial for his total non-infraction, I was curious how that would play out, since anyone with a pulse could tell it was a purely vindictive action on Sobel's part. And yet they totally ignored it. The when the sargents all offerred to turn in their stripes rather than go into combat with Sobel, the Colonel demoted only one, and threw another one out of the unit. The rest he just told to get out. What was so special about the first two? Why did he do that? He must have realized the NCO's had good reasons for what they did, because he immediately reassigned Sobel to a new post.
I'm sure losing Easy Company was 100% a tough pill to swallow but being solely responsible for training up the best soldiers in the Division and thensome is a massive accomplishment and something I hope he held his head high on. I can only imagine being able to train soldiers to that standard is literally invaluable and isn't something even remotely common.
I never understood the relevance of the compass and direction changes to determine the drop zone.... Maybe I'm missing something but if the plane travels at 100mph and flies for half an hour then the plane traveled 50 miles.... What am I not getting...???
I watch BoB every year. Still haven’t seen The Pacific. Unfortunately I’m either all war’d out by end of Bob or the first 5 mins of the Pacific doesn’t grasp me. BoB right off the jump always hooks me.
in 2010 on black skyradio, they did a year 1\2 cast and crew interviews of the real men of easy, was so awesome hearing the actors and real men's stories,
We are living in a time where people see David Schwimmer at first as Captain Zobel and maybe later as Ross from Friends. It was cringe back then to see Ross as this Sado-@ss-hole
I have the utmost respect for Sobel, he made Easy into one of the best company's in the ETO and helped them get through D-Day. He was a great trainer of troops but not a nautral born leader like Winters.
Exactly! I saw that there was a bit of criticism from the family of Sobel about how he was portrayed in the show. I can see why they may have been disappointed as despite the legacy of being that elite trainer, he was made to be a bit 'incompetent'. But it didn't make me lose respect
It's hard to tell how Sobel would have been in combat since he wasn't in charge of combat troops after leaving Easy Company. However, at least Wikipedia says this, he jumped on D-Day, gathered four men, and lead them to take out a machine gun nest with grenades. His job, after training those doctors, medics, etc. at Chilton, was as a regiment staff officer, eventually becoming regiment S-4 (logistics). Generally moving to staff was considered a promotion, especially in a job as important as supply. Also, it should be pointed out that most of Ambroses information about Sobel came from Winters, who pretty clearly did not like Sobel. Of course, Sobel's job was not to be liked, it was to train his company.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
@@nexpro6118 And just how do you know he wouldn't have been a good leader. The only thing you know about him is what you saw on the TV show, which was written as a hatchet job. Really nothing has been written about his experience on D-Day and after.
So I always wondered how Captain Sobel would of reacted and what action he would of taken had he found out one of the soldiers was gay? Wouldnhe of been progressive about like in the 90's of don't ask don't tell or would he of gone totally ballistic? I'm talking he's knocking other officers out in front of the enlisted men and only Colonel sink himself can talk him down?
@@floridapmi Yes, but that’s not what jump pay is or was for. They got combat pay (called hostile fire pay when I got it, no idea what it was technically called in 1941) for jumping into enemy territory. Jump (hazardous duty) pay is/was because parachuting is inherently dangerous even in training.
Dude you got so much wrong that it's like you didn't even watch the show. Maybe next time do a full watch, THEN do a note taking watch. That way you can at least understand plot points. "I had a compass" being a pass phrase. Jesus dude.
The fact you have a spoiler alert on historical events is the most insulting thing I have ever suffered. Those that don't know what happened DESERVE the pain. This is the history they are already ignorant of. Spoiler Alert. America wins.
Band of Brothers was an amazing show. BrainPilot’s review/interpretation of it is incredibly poor. He is wrong on virtually every point. Either he didn’t watch the show, or his ability to comprehend is frightfully poor.
Band of Brothers is truly something special! When you learn about what the actors did, the bootcamp and the serious handling it had, it's just astonishing and really carries through in the delivery of the performances!
The Brits fighting for their national identity while we fought because war was declared on us. The Brits were happy to have us aboard because they had been fighting desperately for years.
Having read the book by ambrose the series did Deviate away in several Instances Winters himself said in bulge battle he was in foxholes Not under a tarp in full view!
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He said “I had a compass” because he used the calculations of time and direction to determine their drop zone would be in Normandy. At that time it was classified. The next scene cuts to it being revealed at the regimental and then battalion and company level what their mission was.
Reminds me of an episode of the Sullivan's from the 70's. The young fella didn't have a compass. He determined his location from the gear changes, time travelled and vehicle movement. ❤
@@WhykickamoocowSullivans, wow. There’s a reference from way back. Next you’ll be telling us about how Joe took a long time to die on Blue Hills.
@MrGofarkyself lol. Sorry don't remember that one. My Nan loved watching the Sullivan's and I loved spending time with my Nan.
@@Whykickamoocow And then there's the legend that " a common sailor on the flagship tried to warn Admiral Shovell that the fleet was off course, but the Admiral had him hanged at the yardarm for inciting mutiny". The next day the flagship, with all hands, and much of the Admirals fleet, went aground, with the loss of almost all hands. That was in 1707.
@@charlesgantz5865 thanks. Just had to look that up
This is the first of the ten breakdowns that are on the way for Band Of Brothers. I hope you enjoy the video! Let me know what your favourite episode of the show is... Episode 6, Episode 9, Episode 10. Every episode is genuinely a masterpiece but i'd be intrigued to know which are your favourites!
Episode 2: Day of Days is up there!
Why We Fight
Cannot wait to start
The breaking point is in my opinion the greatest episode in the history of television.
I thought that the whole show was exceptional. Being a history nerd, I knew most of this and thought that the portrayals were so true. Of course, I always enjoy historical accurate shows. Still my favorite was near the end when they freed the inmates of the concentration camp. It showed how inhumane that human beings can be, and the Americans reaction to it. Now we see similar things happening today with renewed anti-semitism and ignorance of history.
Sobel jumped into Normandy on D-day, assembled an ad-hoc group of troopers and took out a German MG nest for which he earned the Bronze Star. BoB completely leaves this out in order to tell the story. It seems to be popular to slag him off, but the man served his country, retired as a Lt Colonel and had a horrible end to his life in 1987. Thank you for your Service Lt. Colonel Sobel.
Agreed! As much of a hard line Sobel drew based on the accounts of those who were there, they also credited him for their survival throughout the war. The level of discipline he drilled into Easy company clearly paid off in spades🫡
True about Sobel. sucks that his later years were so bleak!
wasn't he re-assigned to a training school?
@@raresaturn Yes, he was sent to Chilton Foliat which is not that far from where the 101st was in Upottery. It was for Chaplains and other non-combat types to go through jump training. After that he jumped into Normandy with the rest of the 101st.
Sadistic Sobel
I am so excited about your reviewing this perfect series. Every episode brings me to tears. I watched this for the first time while I was serving in Iraq. Leadrship is everything but unit cohesion is a must. My favorite moment in episode 1, the lone solider running up Currahee alone, only to be joined by his Brothers as he made it to the top. (oh and my very second favorite...the NCO's refuse to follow Sobel and still saluted Winters on the way out.. 😭Great show. Keep them coming! I'm ready. EASY COMPANY!!!
The final shot as the planes, one by one, take to the air, the silhouettes of those watching and saluting from the ground, it just tears me apart every time.
Such a powerful moment!
I think that David Schwimmer deserves great credit for his portrayal of Sobel.. It's great when an actor gets to portray a hero, and perhaps even greater when they can play a throughly villianous character, but Sobel was neither. (He was a bit of a screw-up, really...) Schwimmer really captured who he was, not necessarily a 'bad guy' but just not a hero or indeed a villian. (Shwimmer had to but his 'actor's ego' in his back pocket to play that part...) respect. xx SF
Yeah he delivered a great performance as Sobel. One that really kick started the season!
Didn’t fail to deliver! Great review. Looking forward to the next!
Glad you enjoyed it! Loving revisiting the show
The Union Army's George McClellan was a similar character to Sobel, but his men actually loved him. He was responsible for training and equipping the Army of the Potomac and making them into the army that defeated Lee, but McClellan was no combat commander and was relieved by Lincoln twice because of his hesitation to fight Lee.
Thanks for these breakdowns.
Just finished my first ever watch through. Can’t believe it’s taken me this long to get round to watching it. The best TV series I’ve seen, Season 1 True Detective is very close though.
Glad you enjoy the videos! Just released my episode 4 breakdown too. And yeah TD Season 1 is so good. If they hadn't have made three more seasons, I think it would be up there in the highest rated shows ever as well. The following three drag it down slightly
Glad you found it at all!!!
7:15, 8:05, 9:07, 9:49 angrily aware of his own tactical blunders in comparison to Winters' emerging prowess, Sobel sensed Winters could overtake his leadership in combat and formed a plot to discredit him. He issued Winters an Article 15 for not inspecting the latrine, because Sobel had changed the time from 10.00 hours to 09.45, though Winters wasn't informed of this change. Richard was given a choice - denial of a weekend pass for 2 months, or challenge the charge via court-martial.
*Winters, immediately recognizing Sobel's motives and how the imposition of nonjudicial punishment would keep him from the Normandy jump, trumped Sobel with a written demand for a court-martial instead, which would keep both him and Sobel from the jump for the proceedings. Sobel was alarmed at this unexpected twist.*
Soble couldn't actually keep Winters from jumping.
@@theroachden6195 Sobel's dirty trick was that denying the weekend pass for 2 months would force Winter to remain in England while Sobel would control the unit alone.
Winter, in contesting the accusation through court-martial, did this to prevent Sobel from going to Europe and leading the men of the 101st to certain death.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
@@nexpro6118 True
Thanks for making me feel hella old by acknowledging that this is indeed now a classic
Haha!
so i grew up with these Scallywags back in the 90's after i joined the E/506th Living History Unit. all the vets you see talking at the start would visit us at events. drink sing and share stories. a lot of things are left out or have been changed esp in the 2nd episode some things didn't really happen the way it's shown. some things the vets never shared as they didn't trust the author of the book. but this still is a powerful series going strong after all these years.
If you want a good podcast that started recently check out "Were Not Lost Private Podcast"
Schwimmer did a great job--one of my favorite episodes
Yeah he was great in this!
Great job bud! Seen a couple Masters of the air and saw you were going to cover this show as well. Totally enjoyed it. Kindof wished it were a little longer to be honest. Hell. I could sit for hours and listen to it!
Glad you enjoyed the video man. I'll remember that for the future videos and maybe look to make them a bit longer!
@@BrainPilot Awesome sir! Not a complaint. Just thoroughly enjoy!
As soon as I saw you'd be reviewing this show I started to rewatch. I'm a huge fan - started following you because of Better Call Saul (best show ever!) and recently enjoying True Detective and Feud. I'll have to take a deep dive into your channel to see what I may have missed.
I'd love to see you cover:
Dark Winds
The Diplomat
Mindhunter
Six Feet Under
Thank you!
Thanks for sticking around for so long! Ohh, Mindhunter would be a great one to revisit. Absolutely loved that show!
My Dad was 4F because of TB , but he still tried to join the military . That is what people did back then .
Great!!!!
Should be required viewing, i know there's no such thing , but still...
It is just such a good show
Good job!
Excellent review!
Thanks!
This chestnut of "Sobel was valuable because he trained them just right" sounds good. Makes the overly harsh dicipline seem like it served some purpose. Quite doubtful.
Can anyone really say that if Winters or someone like him had trained Easy Company, they wouldn't have been just as ready?
Right - didn't think so.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
Maybe not. You don't hear from units where everone liked the drill sergeant because all those guys died.
You should also review Pacific.
Yes, i'm thinking of covering that after Band of Brothers
Great breakdown of the episodes. But I find it sad a movie about real heroes of our greatest generation come in behind a movie about a drug dealing teacher. This country has screwed up ideas of morality and what kind of people should be admired.
This episode was Schwimmers performance of his career.
Yeah he was so good in this!
Great movie brave men from Scott new Zealand
Oh yeah their sacrifice made the world a much better place...much better place...right? Didn't they?
9:17 What a dumb dumb 😅
What needs to be explained?
I wasn't sure either. However, it seems the guy that made the video needed a few things explained. Most obvious spots were "capturing" the guy on the bike, and the use of a compass to figure out directions.
Why do we need some geek talking when the episode can be played .
Shut up
The British guy was just having a laugh he wasn’t part of the training exercise as c company wasn’t even in the right place at the time so he couldn’t have been apart of the exercise
You sound like A.i. sorry, but it's true.
It’s NOT Uppertree as you say it , its actually Upottery
Yeah you're right the British man making this video should say it the way the Americans do!
Ah, the band of gays! What a comedy!
Never really paid attention or watched it.
It's definitely worth a watch!
The fact that the Sopranos was NOT number one makes that list irrelevant
"your subjective opinion is objectively wrong!"
Capturing the old Englishman on his bike was not the objective of the training exercise, just an amusing bonus. And the old boy had a scense of humour. 😂 “You’ve done it now Yanks. You’ve captured me.”
The smile on Lt. Winters face indicated that he had the same sense of humor.
yes there are several mistakes with this "breakdown" this being one of them, the objective was simply to be on time, reading a map and deploying to cover the crossroad. if the old man was the objective the 1st platoon would have stopped and grabbed him, or the second platoon, or the third lol, they all just ran into position including winters after the joke from the old man. second one was "I have a compass" wasn't a password, he had a compass and they figured out where they would be jumping "yup its Normandy every time" i stopped there.
He couldn't have been serious. Obviously the bike guy had nothing to do with anything. It was just funny.
I think the bike scene shows the first time that Winters openly admits Sobel to be bad for the company ("would that be the enemy?", to which Winters replies, "as a matter of fact, yes").
I adore that part! It's a good light moment during a dark war period (well, at least, in the series).
I watch this series every year, never gets old, brilliant.
Yeah it is truly the best!
Same
I'm pretty sure that older British guy was just out riding his bike, not part of their training mission.
I thought that at first but then I thought he could have been the target!
@@BrainPilot Possibly, but the ol chap asked "would that be the enemy" as Sobel came charging up the middle of the road and shouting HI HO SILVER! I think this was an exercise for each platoon to take the same objective and the first one there would be the victor.
@@Saynt_J it was a company mission, Lt winters waited a lot for sobels arrival, at the end he said his platoon would have to improvise without Sobel
@@BrainPilot that was an incredibly stupid thought.
My father was in the infantry that hit Omaha Beach on DDay and was in the unit/s that went thru Europe until VE Day with these paratroopers . I’ve heard all of these exact stories and places from 50-60 years back and watching this series I now have a glimpse of the hardships these incredibly brave men went thru. My dad died 29 years ago next month and I miss him so much.
Just keeping you guys aware, I did release a breakdown on Episode 2 yesterday, but it got blocked this morning. I'm currently working through the dispute and hoping it will be able to get put live again!
We’ve all had a Sobel. If you were in the military you know someone like this.
That drill Sgt you always hate.
I work on a ship as a Deck Cadet, My Sobel was my Chief Mate/Officer which pushed us cadets to our limits. Although I personally hated how he handled us, we respected his goal of training us cadets to future ship officers
Absolutely.
You are right.
There's a difference between a pay grade and a rank.
You are way off in your analysis dude. Nix wasn't looking ahead. Nix was trying to ignore his situation. It's what Nix always does. Drinks to forget drinks to ignore drinks to try to get out of his current situation. That's why he was an alcoholic.
Schwimmer never gets enough credit for his portrayal of Sobel. You hated him, but I just see Ross 😂😂 PIVOT!!
Yeah he was great as Sobel! To think he was doing this during his stint on Friends as well
Shut uuuuup!
I used to get tangled up in that. But now I just see Sobel, hats off to them both. And everyone else that is involved for that matter.
@@Widnu Only the opening line was a Ross-ism ("You PEOPLE... are at a position of attention!" Hahahaha look it's Ross in the military..) as if they're getting it out of the way, "yes this is David Schwimmer get over it". Everything after that he's just Sobel and I don't think of Ross at all.
Band of brothers is so damn good and it's what got me into world war two as a teenager in Ireland. I'll never forget this first episode being aired on TV, it actually captivated me and I seen Ross from Friends and thought it was going to be a comedy or something. After 10 minutes Ross from friends was gone! I seen Captain Sobel, his performance was magnificent. Made the rest of the men likeable because Sobel was so unlikeable which worked perfectly. By the end I was totally convinced that I was witnessing the greatest show ever made.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
@@nexpro6118how many times are you going to Copy & Paste your lame irrelevant comment
Soldiers don’t really care if they get hard training. What they do care about is officers who get them lost.
Gotta review Generation Kill after this series haha
05:20 Simon Pegg!
14:00 Michael Fassbender! (being shouted at)
This series continuity makes me proud that I became a paratrooper year after year even though I wasn't pinned until 2001 .
just for context: "etxra 50 USD" mean about 1k USD today
The first time I watched BoB I took the normal view of Sobel. Upon a rewatch I found myself admiring the work he did. Sobel knew he was hated and wanted to be hated. This gave the men a motivation and a common enemy. He also knew not to let them celebrate until there was a real reason to celebrate. When he was promoted for their success, he couldn't share this with them because the job wasn't over, so he went immediately into an inspection to make them hate his success. Even with Winters" promotion he downplayed it like it was forced and not really earned and he still had to prove it. Sobel was failed in his training that he was never fully developed as a field leader. Why were his shortcomings never addressed and corrected?
Sobel was hurt by being fired as CO. He seemed to have a good grasp on human trauma phycology and bringing men together and how to do so but was unable to read people to determine if they ever really understood he wasn't really their enemy but was doing it for them. Most of the men years later did come to this conclusion and credit Sobel for making them the best.
The issue with The Pacific was we jumped around too many characters unconnected characters, and the training portions weren't as long
Yeah I agree! A story with maybe Sledge would have been the best approach
Looking forward to watching all of your BofB videos
Thanks! Currently working on Ep2
Everything is already "Explained" if you sit and watch the Show.
Man will that word just die already.
Anyone got an example scenario how someone might be morally unfit for duty (as opposed to physically or mentally)
You were gay.
I lost count how many time i watched BoB over the past decades. It never ever gets old and always be number 1 in my eye. The pacific is ehh. But the new serie about the 100th bomber is getting closer to number 2. It's so emotional if we we spent the same time like we did with the crew the way we did with BoB it probably would be super hard to watch as always all our crew don't come back.
After being drafted in ‘43, my dad served 30 years in the army, 26 of them jumping out of perfectly good airplanes. Pretty much he intimated to me that the $50 sure was a help in supporting his mom, but he also liked the fact the paratroopers were supposed to be tip of the spear, jumping and fighting for a limited time before being pulled off the line to prepare for the next mission.
When your Company Commander was more hated than the Germans...adding that he was totally inept. Growing up in Chicago, Sobel was picked on for being Jewish even though his father was successful in business. There is speculation that his over the top lashing out was some type of psychological payback against any gentile.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
That scene about signing your life insurance right before the jump is so far off base it hurts to watch it. That stuff is taken care of way before that, it's actually inprocessing paperwork. I know the point they were trying to make but they should have done it another way. As far as Sobel, he deserves way more credit than he got. Maybe a bad leader, who knows for sure, but maybe the best trainer I have ever heard of, for that time.
Goddamn these robonnouncer gibberish salad flat affect sound tracks. You just lose any interest in a. great story..Boring!
Love "Band of Brothers". But in my opinion the greatest ever is "The Wire".
_And all the pieces_ matter.
When Winters demanded a trial by court martial for his total non-infraction, I was curious how that would play out, since anyone with a pulse could tell it was a purely vindictive action on Sobel's part. And yet they totally ignored it. The when the sargents all offerred to turn in their stripes rather than go into combat with Sobel, the Colonel demoted only one, and threw another one out of the unit. The rest he just told to get out. What was so special about the first two? Why did he do that? He must have realized the NCO's had good reasons for what they did, because he immediately reassigned Sobel to a new post.
That never made sense to me either
I'm sure losing Easy Company was 100% a tough pill to swallow but being solely responsible for training up the best soldiers in the Division and thensome is a massive accomplishment and something I hope he held his head high on.
I can only imagine being able to train soldiers to that standard is literally invaluable and isn't something even remotely common.
I never understood the relevance of the compass and direction changes to determine the drop zone....
Maybe I'm missing something but if the plane travels at 100mph and flies for half an hour then the plane traveled 50 miles....
What am I not getting...???
I watch BoB every year. Still haven’t seen The Pacific. Unfortunately I’m either all war’d out by end of Bob or the first 5 mins of the Pacific doesn’t grasp me. BoB right off the jump always hooks me.
I have seen The Pacific a few times and it was a huge disappointment every time. Absolutely not the high standards of BoB.
David Schwimmer did such a good job of being an ass that I can't stand him as an actor anymore.
Yeah he was so good in that role!
Knee deep into band of brothers rabbit hole I’m watching video commentaries of the show yah we in this shit for life
in 2010 on black skyradio, they did a year 1\2 cast and crew interviews of the real men of easy, was so awesome hearing the actors and real men's stories,
We are living in a time where people see David Schwimmer at first as Captain Zobel and maybe later as Ross from Friends. It was cringe back then to see Ross as this Sado-@ss-hole
Did you actually watch it or did you give up after the first 10 minutes?
I have the utmost respect for Sobel, he made Easy into one of the best company's in the ETO and helped them get through D-Day.
He was a great trainer of troops but not a nautral born leader like Winters.
Exactly! I saw that there was a bit of criticism from the family of Sobel about how he was portrayed in the show. I can see why they may have been disappointed as despite the legacy of being that elite trainer, he was made to be a bit 'incompetent'. But it didn't make me lose respect
It's hard to tell how Sobel would have been in combat since he wasn't in charge of combat troops after leaving Easy Company. However, at least Wikipedia says this, he jumped on D-Day, gathered four men, and lead them to take out a machine gun nest with grenades. His job, after training those doctors, medics, etc. at Chilton, was as a regiment staff officer, eventually becoming regiment S-4 (logistics). Generally moving to staff was considered a promotion, especially in a job as important as supply.
Also, it should be pointed out that most of Ambroses information about Sobel came from Winters, who pretty clearly did not like Sobel. Of course, Sobel's job was not to be liked, it was to train his company.
It's sad how I've noticed that most dudes (notice how I didn't write men lol) in the comment section think that just because Sobel was a good training officer and did brave things in battle, means that he(Sobel) is also a good leader. Doesn't make you a good leader just because you were a good training officer. Sobel just wasn't a good leader. That's what this video is showing.
@@nexpro6118 And just how do you know he wouldn't have been a good leader. The only thing you know about him is what you saw on the TV show, which was written as a hatchet job. Really nothing has been written about his experience on D-Day and after.
@@charlesgantz5865 by the dozens and dozens of examples from the show. Or....who are you referring to when you mean, "he"
So I always wondered how Captain Sobel would of reacted and what action he would of taken had he found out one of the soldiers was gay? Wouldnhe of been progressive about like in the 90's of don't ask don't tell or would he of gone totally ballistic? I'm talking he's knocking other officers out in front of the enlisted men and only Colonel sink himself can talk him down?
Why are you calling the veterans by different names instead of their real names...???
Less than 1% of the military go Airborne. All THE WAY AIRBORNE!
So you watched the movie - maybe read the book ? You offer nothing more that that ? Sorry waste of time here.
This is so hard to follow why do you gotta make it confusing?
They msde Sobel look like a weak stupid tyrant but irl he was quite heroic
Yeah I've also heard that!
$50 in 1941 is worth $1,077 today.
When I retired in 2010 it was $150 a month, so not nearly as good a deal as it was in 1941. To be fair, it was a lot more dangerous back then.
@@chipsmith7441 those guys were going to parachute into enemy territory, they should have been given more.
@@floridapmi Yes, but that’s not what jump pay is or was for. They got combat pay (called hostile fire pay when I got it, no idea what it was technically called in 1941) for jumping into enemy territory. Jump (hazardous duty) pay is/was because parachuting is inherently dangerous even in training.
So...the old English man on the bike was the ibjective of the exercise? Where in earth did that come.from?
Great series
One of the best ever!
Dude you got so much wrong that it's like you didn't even watch the show. Maybe next time do a full watch, THEN do a note taking watch. That way you can at least understand plot points. "I had a compass" being a pass phrase. Jesus dude.
The fact you have a spoiler alert on historical events is the most insulting thing I have ever suffered.
Those that don't know what happened DESERVE the pain. This is the history they are already ignorant of.
Spoiler Alert. America wins.
Band of Brothers was an amazing show. BrainPilot’s review/interpretation of it is incredibly poor. He is wrong on virtually every point. Either he didn’t watch the show, or his ability to comprehend is frightfully poor.
You should try more analysis and less summery. There is very little meat to your statements. It's almost all summary.
These guys only fought for less than a year. US had a habit of showing up late to wars.
i just finished BOB, this feels more like Halo, where has the gd TV gone
D. Schwimmer was the best actor in the whole series. IMO
What would PFC Jake McNiece say? 😅
Sobel: i was on a break!!!!!!!!
I loved all three. Each had their strengths!!
Did an ai write this?
Geeze..narrated??
good post, be well
Not sure how breaking bad is higher than this show. Liked that show, but it is sktech comedy compared to Band of Brothers
Band of Brothers is truly something special! When you learn about what the actors did, the bootcamp and the serious handling it had, it's just astonishing and really carries through in the delivery of the performances!
classic series , watched it so long ago , even jimmy fallon is in it , lol
Yeah I thought that lol!
I doubt that they wore Ridell football helmets.
They did, actually.
It is the best tv show ever made.
Yeah it really is up there! It's so good
The Brits fighting for their national identity while we fought because war was declared on us.
The Brits were happy to have us aboard because they had been fighting desperately for years.
Having read the book by ambrose the series did
Deviate away in several
Instances
Winters himself said in bulge battle he was in foxholes
Not under a tarp in full view!
And they killed off Blithe when in fact he died in 1967. He was decorated and rose to the rank of Master Sargent
Another AI gen video