@@codered5431 I know it's a joke, but the reason they even tried this with the C-130 is that she's known for her ridiculous short take off and landing (STOL) capabilities. Even the Electra (civilian version of the C-130) was a favorite of an Alaskan aione because it could get into/out of airfields that other aircraft of the time couldn't even think about.
Interesting to watch this since I was aboard the Forrestal for some of these tests. I particularly remember the C-130 landing, stopping, and then taking off again without backing up.
@@mathewwinney8036 Can't remember if I was on the flight deck (probably not) or just peeking over from a catwalk on the side of the deck. I was a navy photographer.
DOD: I want you to land one of the biggest and heaviest plane on a moving aircraft carrier. Youll have 15 feet of wing clearance, no tail hook and have to put the engines in reverse. Pilot: Anything else? DOD: Do it 19 times.
@@Enzoxvx Incorrect. Mike Patey did this in steep dive with his legendary Draco! (Videos here on YT) He needed a steep dive angle and low airspeed so 2 wing-suit skydivers could grab on to each wing. Outcome... Awesome!
Last year my girlfriend and I heard a loud rumble and we both ran outside to see what was happening.A C-130 was refueling two Blackhawk helicopters ,one from each wing.I live in northern middle Tennessee.It was a rare sight and one I will remember.
@@markpaul8178 We get C-130s (and C-17s) in and out of the local airport on a near-daily basis. Grant County International used to be an Air Force field, and there seems to be an Air Guard detachment there even now. It was also designated (but never used) as a Shuttle alternate landing field, has a small "boneyard", does flight training, and spent some time as the US flight test field for that prototype Mitsubishi Regional Jet.
The 101st Airborne Division was jumping out of C130's at Ft Campbell, Kentucky in 1957, probably one of the very best aircraft at that time, we even jumped out of C119, C123, C47 and the H34 Helicopter some where between 1957 and 1960.
40 knot winds probably helped if they aimed the carrier into the wind. Which I am sure they did. The C-130 could then land 40 knots slower with the same lift produced by the wings. EDIT: The one witness said when it landed the carrier had 40 to 50 knot winds hitting the nose, so yes they were sailing into the wind.
All modern aircraft carriers can push 32+ knots of wind across the flight deck even in zero wind conditions with the power of their main propulsion systems alone.
Nice to see the British given credit for the innovations to carriers, the angled flight deck, the steam catapult and the mirror landing equipment, very good!
I flew on 148798 in 1979-80 as a loadmaster when she was back in service with VMGR-252. She was a legend in the squadron. But my favorite was 148896...soft spot in my head and heart. Never underestimate the C-130!
The three best history UA-cam Channels (in no particular order): Dark Sky, The History Guy and Mark Felton Productions Q: Why aren't these guys in charge of the History Channel?
It's a shame that History Channel ceased to be about History long ago. By the time they went after the 'reality' show genre they had jumped the shark and had no will to do serious shows. History Channel plays on the TV in the break room at work; everytime I see Giorgio Tsoukolas on Ancient Aliens I just want to puke my lunch. I miss the old History and Discovery and Discovery Wings channels.
Having served in the Marine Corps Air Wing and on a carrier when I first learned about the C-130 landing on a carrier it was surprising. I watched many different types of craft coming in onboard a carrier. It’s pretty remarkable that they did this with a C-130. But it’s an amazing craft and the aviators who fly them are very capable pilots. It’s pretty cool that they did this. I see in the comments that people talk about simulators and I laugh. It’s not the same. Doing amazing things takes courage and ability. Simulators are risk free. The C-130 landed because the pilot had huge balls of steel and the drag alone was what contributed to it stopping in time. Simulators lol.
Same thing the old guard NASCAR drivers said about iRacing when it became populat amongst the young, up and coming drivers. Now those young guns have taken over the sport partially becuase they don't discount the advantages spending time in a simulator can provide. Definitely not a replacement for IRL experience but an excellent training tool that sholuldn't be "laughed" at.
IIRC, they weren't regular C130 pilots either. I read they couldn't get any air force pilots to do it, so a couple of Navy pilots did conversion training to fly the C130.
@@No1sonuk The air force played no role whatsoever even to turn down the assignment. The Navy specifically wanted carrier qual'd pilots. The plane belonged to the Marine Corps but the Marine KC-130 pilots didn't have extensive experience trapping on the boat.
5:27 As far as not being able to find a C-130 crew to land on the deck ... B.S.!. The Navy never intended for pilots with no carrier landing experience to pilot this experiment. They specified carrier qualified pilots from the beginning, as only makes sense. Hence, fighter pilots with multiple hundreds of carrier landings under their belts.
The trick was they needed carrier pilots with experience in larger multi engine planes. It was an odd mix. I think their selection metric was probably more “number of successful carrier landings” than anything else. It was easier to teach a fighter pilot to fly a C-130 than it was to teach a C-130 pilot to land on a carrier. The Herc is legendarily easy to fly, whereas Carrier landings remain the hardest, most harrowing task in aviation.
Well Army and Airforce Strapped Rocket to Get the C-130 out of the foot ball field ...the Airforce and Navy Demonstration team still using the C-130 Rocket version in Airshow
This tale has me thinking of "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo." (Except, back then, B-25 bombers were lifted onto the aircraft carrier flight deck, "bombed up," then took off into History.)
We brought OV-10 Broncos over Atlantic for PG ops. Launched them off 'Super Kitty Hawk Class' to fly on thru Europe. They kinda looked like B-25's taking off and disappearing over the ocean.(No catapult)
USS Zippo My dad witnessed this landing and was onboard when a fire burned below decks for 9 days, reaching the compartment next to the magazine; which housed, among other things, a contingent of Mk 7 bombs.
@@MickeyD2012 It was called the "Forest fire" because of the terrible accident that occurred during the launch of an Alpha strike off the coast of Vietnam. An airman using a starter cart cooked off a missile that slammed into an A-1 that was fully loaded with fuel, 500 pound bombs, and a pilot. The resulting explosions and fire killed over 60 crewmen and badly wounded over 300 more.
By the time this got declassified, I was in the Air Force (Early 70's). The Commander held a monthly meeting and usually showed a short info film prior to his "talk". He told us not to laugh when we saw the film. People started chuckling as we watched the C-130 approach the carrier. It then landed on the carrier. After that, you could have heard a pin drop in the room. The base I was stationed at was Little Rock AFB. It was a huge C-130 base. I did avionics repair on the C-130's and didn't think you could do that! It wasn't exactly empty either. I love watching this historic event. It's no wonder the pilot got the Air Medal for this! (Should have got it with brass balls clusters)
"It's no wonder the pilot got the Air Medal for this!" Flatley was awarded the DFC. Stovall and Brennan were awarded Air Medals. Sieve was eventually awarded an Air Medal in 2004.
The pilots name is James H. Flatley III, he is the son of James H. Flatley Jr. How do I know this? Twice, I was his driver for the Change of Command ceremony for the USS Flatley (FFG-21) the ship named for his father, the ship I served on as an ET from 1987 to 1991. I didn't know about this back then, and since becoming a pilot myself, I wish I did. He was very nice, sitting in front with me, while his mom and wife sat in the back, cruising down the pier, headlights on, two stars flying on the hood. Actually asked for me the second time around. And since all of you are watching/reading this, look up VADM Flatley and see what he did during his Naval career. USS Flatley (FFG-21), The Flatdog, Have Courage, Call Sign NJHF. Still serving after 40 years in the Turkish Navy as TCG Gemlik (F 492) . ET2 Spowart (ret) AKA Sprout
In July 1967 off the coast of Viet Nam, the Forrestal had a serious fire on the flight deck. 134 sailors died and about 160 were injured. I was a COMSEC operator on Guam copying the radio traffic from the Forrestal. "Zippo" and "forrest fire" are used by some about the fire. Things were really bad when the Forrestal communicated with the USS Repose, a Navy hospital ship in Danang harbor asking how many beds were available. The Repose replied 150; the Forrestal responded “that isn't enough!” That was a terrible day for the Navy. Please forget about the USS Zippo and USS Forrest Fire terms. Navy Chief Warrant Officer (RET).
It's not that big of a deal honestly. The pilots train first, iron out the problems, then do it for real. They calculate and fly by the numbers. If they don't like something they abort and go around, etc. But yeah it's still pretty sketchy!
This blew my mind in so many ways I can't even count them.... Thank you for your work on this! Absolutely fascinating! No arresting hook?!?!?! Just incredible....
Yet I doubt that they have ever attempted to test landings on carriers with the jet aircraft's undercarriage NOT lowered - repeatedly - as the Royal Navy have performed successfully during the early jet era!
@@johnklumpp7901 Practicing crash landings is nuts. But doing it when you can skid too far and drown? Now that's a whole different level of mental altogether😂
@@larrylobster9107 Trump was the reason the US military completely bodied ISIS while Obama was too busy protecting the US and himselves image while trump just fucking moabed them and allowed the military to shoot through civillian shields.
@@jellomaster5629 We did lmfao. The entire point of the war was for the flex to dissuade other countries from joining the USSR. The US had no front lines and went only for kill count
Wow..... As a Navy vet (AM3 VAW 116) that was on the flight deck crew. I can tell you that am in awe of this. A c130 with no hook! Those were some of the greatest naval aviators to ever live.
I served with the Forrestal carrier group back in 85-93. We unrepped her many times between 85-90, during the Libya campaign, and during desert storm. Great memories.
Mine too! Actually was an F-16 instructor for over 20 years but cross-trained in a few other aircraft including the C-130 the last few years of his career. Retired just last year!
@@Dev-In-Denver123 My old man was the CO of 36 Squadron in the late sixties, flying his Hercs back & forth to Vietnam. Before that he was a chief Test Pilot on all the jets of the day.
@@jimcottee8909 That's awesome. Test piloting jets in 60's especially was an important job. "Do these things work? Idk, send him up and we'll find out!" Haha, that's awesome for your father though, being a test pilot is hard and challenging and you have to be smart to convey things to the engineers.
Such an awesome airframe. I was honored to hitch a ride on the Blue Angels' C-130 Fat Albert before the Wings Over Houston Airshow about 10 or so years ago. They put on a great show for us and we even briefly experienced Zero-G and they did a really aggressively angled short-field landing (which was part of the demo for the airshow also). Definitely was regretting attending a Tequila Tasting the night before although I kept it together (barely).
I remember Ol' Zippy. Heard the horror stories from a photographer's mate assigned to that investigation. Spent one shore duty at VC-3 NAS North Island in the early 1970's which were providing target drones for training and fleet operations. Our two C-130A's were equipped as airborne launch platforms. MQM and BQM pilotless R.C. models that could exceed the sound barrier. The old girls were quirky in their old age. Our assistant maintenance officer was forever looking for parts at the bone yard. He told us the story about putting JATO on a Hercules and was a witness to these carrier operations.
Kirk: Mr Spock what are the odds of landing the Enterprise on the Enterprise Spock: Captain I don’t see the purpose of gambling. But I do find that to be both a highly illogical and rather interesting proposition.
I have crawled around that plane before behind the museum maintenance facility at NAS Pensacola. I was volunteering at museum maintenance while waiting to be "classed up" for aircrew training. Had no idea what it had done when I walked up to it. Ended up a KC-130J Loadmaster, so maybe that was the "moment" for me.
The pilot, James H. Flatley, was the skipper of an F-4 Phantom squadron later in his career. The squadron was VF-31. I was assigned to that squadron and Commander (at the time) Flatley was my skipper. One hell of a fine officer, one hell of a fine man!
I mean... Really strong breaks and realy strong reverse thruster + ropes on the cariers... It was obviously gonna work Also remember that an aircraft carier is also moving
I think the person who landed a Mosquito without an arrestor hook on a much smaller English carrier during WW2. It may have been Commander Winkie Brown but that needs to be checked. See ua-cam.com/video/d9Hjne0OA4w/v-deo.html for Winkie Brown describing his landing
I've always heard such great things about the C-130. This video tends to confirm what a great aircraft it is. All credit to the crew, but you have to respect the aircraft that has this kind of flexibility.
Just because the plane is large, does not mean that it's landing or takeoff distance would be any different than a smaller plane... I'm pretty sure that the people put in charge of the task didn't doubt if it could be done and just set about figuring out the details and optimizations needed.
Considering no C-130 crews wanted to be a part of the tests, I think it's safe to there was doubt. But maybe those uneducated navy pilots (I'm being sarcastic) were afraid some terrible accident might occur n they didnt wanna risk it. The current record for largest and heaviest plane landed on a carrier happened during these tests. That's pretty impressive considering it happened over 40 years ago. Maybe you're saying that some people had complete faith that it was possible to land a c-130 on a carrier though. If that is what you're saying, I think itd be worth thinking about how much money and time would go into just planning something like this. Not to mention that actually implementing it into regular operations would mean that those in charge would have to be nearly 100% certain that nothing would go wrong in the future either. Not trying to sound like I'm smart or that youre thought is dumb or anything like that. Just saying that I think you might be underestimating how complicated a monotonous task like resupplying a carrier can be
The weight of the plane does play a role in the required distance to land or take off, the more weight you have to accelerate the more energy is needed, the same goes for landing/stopping. Of course you have bigger engines and larger brakes on a larger plane, but the power to weight ratio is way higher on a fighter jet than a cargo plane.
You're right. Depends on many other things: Thrust to weight ratio; wing surface area to weight ratio; and many other things. So, a larger aircraft with all the SAME ratios as the smaller plane will indeed make landing and takeoff runs that are proportionately larger than the smaller aircraft.
@Alan Robinson that's not entirely true. I can't remember if this UA-cam channel or another one did it, but during the planning of rescuing the hostages from Iran a modified some some for vertical landings and takeoffs it's pretty interesting
"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. I got about fifty feet out and suddenly the great beast appeared before me, i tell you it was ten stories high if it was a foot".
I knew both pilots. Good men. The copilot died of cancer way to young. The pilot was from a historic Navy family and later became a fighter squadron CO, Flying F4s, then CO of Saratoga, and retired as a RADM. Both were young Lieutenants when the landed the C-130 aboard, they were also Navy test pilots at the time.
Adm. Flatley was the CO on the Sara when I was on her in '79 & '80. He was the best CO I ever served under. His son was a midshipman at the time. While we were in the Med in 1980, he completed his 1500th arrested landing in an F-4 with his son in the back seat.
The North American Aviation RA-5 was in extensive use in photo-recon det. service with carriers of TF-77 on "YANKEE STATION" during Vietnam war. Large "Bird" - don't remember wingspan, but comparable in size to A3. Heavy & fast too.
@@RaoulThomas007 True, but the guy telling us about them doesn't...hopefully...although we've never seen his face. Perhaps he's a robot who drinks fossil fuels? Either way, the ads are a little OTT considering the length of videos- I'm comparing to other vaguely similar channels I watch like Mark Felton, Curious Droid, Zepherus, Mustard, etc. Not expecting everyone to be like Drachinifel and have 0 ads while seemingly putting more work into his channel than anyone...crazy man (and a legend).
adblocker in your browser, youtube vanced on your phone, problem solved. Support the channels you care about directly without giving money to this shitty platform that's only still alive because nobody can afford to build an alternative.
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""Fingered two USMC fighter pilots that couldn't even spell the word 'propeller'.""(sic) Actual comment: 5:39 Naval Air test center fingered two 5:40 fighter pilots who couldn't even spell 5:42 propeller Flatley and Stovall were both squids.
The Navy also once studied the feasibility of landing a C-22 (Military Boeing 727) aboard Forrestal. It could theoretically be done but only into hurricane wind speeds. The good news was that if a 727 could land somewhere - it could take off from there thanks to having plenty of thrust. They never actually tried it - but in some Dirk Pitt fiction novel the hero did just that.
@@johnjacobs1625 No one parked a piece of yellow gear pointed at a rocket. Static electric charge from a disconnected safety plug on the rocket pod caused the rocket to fire stricking the A4 plane on the opposite side of the ship
The USS Oriskany and the USS Enterprise. Both very tragic. It is said that the flight deck of a carrier is the most hazardous job location in the world. Having worked there on 3 cruises I say that's a true statement. However, the eight or so decks below 'The Roof" are just a short step behind that for danger.
@@maxwellclark6992 He stops it in such a short distance, it had to have been right there at stall speed when it touched. It was probably largely the headwinds keeping it up at that point.
And as far as not being able to find a C-130 crew to land on the deck ... B.S. as well. The Navy never intended for pilots with no carrier landing experience to pilot this experiment. They specified carrier qualified pilots from the beginning, as only makes sense. Hence, fighter pilots (or similar).
@william coe Give me a break. It would be much easier to train a carrier qualified fighter pilot to fly a C-130 than to train a non carrier qualified C-130 pilot to land on the deck of an aircraft carrier AND THE NAVY WOULD KNOW THAT from the start. So, b.s. on that.
@william coe Were you in any military? Playing video games in your parents basement doesn't qualify snowflake. I have researched this event several times for my thesis and dissertation and there is NO official record of it ever being the case. Don't believe every "war story" you here and don't believe everything you see on the Internet. I'm done with this conversation. If you reply you will show just what an idiot you are.
This is one of your best videos. I never knew about this and I had the same reaction as some of the pilots: “operate a C 130 off of an aircraft carrier? Someone’s got to be kidding”
I absolutely love the “Dark” family of channels! Mainly Dark Docs & Dark Skies bc 90% of what they post are historic military documentaries and that’s what I love especially the period starting with WW2 & up to the mid-late 80’s when they did all sorts of crazy tests and instead of doing those tests on a computer like they would today they couldn’t back then so these actually had to be carried out and like this 1 here regularly ended up with a successful test and the people involved going down in history! It’s crazy at 7:33 to see the Forrestal’s deck 100% cleared. It’s almost like it was going back out for her sea fairing trials. I’m curious if sometime in the future we will ever a see a time when the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy gets an opportunity at a carrier landing & take off? I would imagine that would have to be a new carrier built specifically around the C-5 to accompany her wingspan along with a new launching and arresting system to both push her big ass off the deck and catch her when she touches down!
The pilot was able to stop so quickly by dragging his huge balls of steel behind the plane
The ball friction was more effective than the arrestor wires
This joke is so old. Its on every video on youtube now.
Next land c5 galaxy on aircraft carrier
@@codered5431 I know it's a joke, but the reason they even tried this with the C-130 is that she's known for her ridiculous short take off and landing (STOL) capabilities. Even the Electra (civilian version of the C-130) was a favorite of an Alaskan aione because it could get into/out of airfields that other aircraft of the time couldn't even think about.
@@GuyFromTheSouth First time I heard it I stepped in dinosaur shit.
Interesting to watch this since I was aboard the Forrestal for some of these tests. I particularly remember the C-130 landing, stopping, and then taking off again without backing up.
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Pretty Harry wasn't it...
Did you actually see that stuff while on deck?
Anyway, my salute to you!
do they have rocket boosters assist?
@@nolramagemo619 No, there was no assist except for the wind coming over the flight deck.
@@mathewwinney8036 Can't remember if I was on the flight deck (probably not) or just peeking over from a catwalk on the side of the deck. I was a navy photographer.
DOD: I want you to land one of the biggest and heaviest plane on a moving aircraft carrier. Youll have 15 feet of wing clearance, no tail hook and have to put the engines in reverse.
Pilot: Anything else?
DOD: Do it 19 times.
Reverse the pitch of the props is standard practice when stopping the hurcs
@@silenthunter8254 but not in mid air
@@Enzoxvx Incorrect. Mike Patey did this in steep dive with his legendary Draco! (Videos here on YT) He needed a steep dive angle and low airspeed so 2 wing-suit skydivers could grab on to each wing. Outcome... Awesome!
@@silenthunter8254 not while they're still in the air (that's reverse pitch)
PILOT: Who's gonna sign off my Car Qual?
"Two fighter pilots who couldn't even spell propeller". Haha brilliant!
5:41
F-18 pilots be like,
Landing with a hook is challenging
C-130
Hold my beer
Whatever works lol
"The Naval Air Test Center fingered two fighter pilots.."
Jet pilots dont worry about propellers.
Last year my girlfriend and I heard a loud rumble and we both ran outside to see what was happening.A C-130 was refueling two Blackhawk helicopters ,one from each wing.I live in northern middle Tennessee.It was a rare sight and one I will remember.
There is a good brake down of the Blackhawk down sht show operation on you tube,, talk about a cluster fux
Thanks for sharing 🙂
@@keepthefaith9805 Jeff,your are welcome sir.
@@markpaul8178 We get C-130s (and C-17s) in and out of the local airport on a near-daily basis.
Grant County International used to be an Air Force field, and there seems to be an Air Guard detachment there even now.
It was also designated (but never used) as a Shuttle alternate landing field, has a small "boneyard", does flight training, and spent some time as the US flight test field for that prototype Mitsubishi Regional Jet.
"Look Maa, No hooks". that cracked me up, Sir.
that one did give me a legit laugh haha
Flew a few times in the C-130. Definitely a work horse for the military 👍
I've seen a few of them around base, they are beats.
@Kathleen Shaw T-56 GM Allison's bad
The 101st Airborne Division was jumping out of C130's at Ft Campbell, Kentucky in 1957, probably one of the very best aircraft at that time, we even jumped out of C119, C123, C47 and the H34 Helicopter some where between 1957 and 1960.
40 knot winds probably helped if they aimed the carrier into the wind. Which I am sure they did. The C-130 could then land 40 knots slower with the same lift produced by the wings.
EDIT: The one witness said when it landed the carrier had 40 to 50 knot winds hitting the nose, so yes they were sailing into the wind.
Plus the 10 knot sea speed .. every bit helps! :)
All modern aircraft carriers can push 32+ knots of wind across the flight deck even in zero wind conditions with the power of their main propulsion systems alone.
Aircraft carriers almost always sail into the wind when launching or recovering aircraft
Obviously they aimed into the wind: that’s been true since the very first carriers, it literally goes without saying
Unfortunately with strong winds you get heavy seas. Landing is tricky if the deck is moving vertically.
Nice to see the British given credit for the innovations to carriers, the angled flight deck, the steam catapult and the mirror landing equipment, very good!
And the Corsair landing on it !
I flew on 148798 in 1979-80 as a loadmaster when she was back in service with VMGR-252. She was a legend in the squadron. But my favorite was 148896...soft spot in my head and heart. Never underestimate the C-130!
“Look Ma, no hook” Lmaooo
Oh how I wish that was still on the plane
Laugh my ass off off off?
@@koitorob he must have buns of steel
Landing C-130s where no C-130 has landed before
Some 100m flat ground.
C-130: it is free estate.
And that's saying something considering some of the places they've landed!
Mars?
@@Hidensee If you can land a Cessna on it, you can land a C-130 on it...
Should see some of the crazy scenarios they put DHC-4 caribou
The three best history UA-cam Channels (in no particular order): Dark Sky, The History Guy and Mark Felton Productions
Q: Why aren't these guys in charge of the History Channel?
It's a shame that History Channel ceased to be about History long ago. By the time they went after the 'reality' show genre they had jumped the shark and had no will to do serious shows. History Channel plays on the TV in the break room at work; everytime I see Giorgio Tsoukolas on Ancient Aliens I just want to puke my lunch.
I miss the old History and Discovery and Discovery Wings channels.
I follow all three of them proudly
Richard Craver Shows like ‘Dogfight’ were the best
Drachinifel is also a good one to follow.
100%
Real Life: The C130 is the biggest plane to ever land in a carrier and holds that record
Flight Sim Players: Challenge accepted
Hahahahaha, does it count if your entire aileron phases through the control tower?
CFG EDIT REEEEEE
Xd image people start seeing the biggest plane thats on land landing and taking off from a carrier
747 lmao
Just watch any AFP95 video for that one chief.
Having served in the Marine Corps Air Wing and on a carrier when I first learned about the C-130 landing on a carrier it was surprising. I watched many different types of craft coming in onboard a carrier. It’s pretty remarkable that they did this with a C-130. But it’s an amazing craft and the aviators who fly them are very capable pilots. It’s pretty cool that they did this. I see in the comments that people talk about simulators and I laugh. It’s not the same. Doing amazing things takes courage and ability. Simulators are risk free. The C-130 landed because the pilot had huge balls of steel and the drag alone was what contributed to it stopping in time. Simulators lol.
Same thing the old guard NASCAR drivers said about iRacing when it became populat amongst the young, up and coming drivers. Now those young guns have taken over the sport partially becuase they don't discount the advantages spending time in a simulator can provide. Definitely not a replacement for IRL experience but an excellent training tool that sholuldn't be "laughed" at.
IIRC, they weren't regular C130 pilots either. I read they couldn't get any air force pilots to do it, so a couple of Navy pilots did conversion training to fly the C130.
@@No1sonuk The air force played no role whatsoever even to turn down the assignment. The Navy specifically wanted carrier qual'd pilots. The plane belonged to the Marine Corps but the Marine KC-130 pilots didn't have extensive experience trapping on the boat.
5:27 As far as not being able to find a C-130 crew to land on the deck ... B.S.!. The Navy never intended for pilots with no carrier landing experience to pilot this experiment. They specified carrier qualified pilots from the beginning, as only makes sense. Hence, fighter pilots with multiple hundreds of carrier landings under their belts.
The trick was they needed carrier pilots with experience in larger multi engine planes. It was an odd mix. I think their selection metric was probably more “number of successful carrier landings” than anything else. It was easier to teach a fighter pilot to fly a C-130 than it was to teach a C-130 pilot to land on a carrier. The Herc is legendarily easy to fly, whereas Carrier landings remain the hardest, most harrowing task in aviation.
"You can't land that here!!"
"Ahahaaaaa. WATCH ME! also, P-R-O-P-E-L-L-E-R"
BC Bob go to 5:41
I feel like I've just been hit with a verbal machine gun
Same
True..
I think it’s fine, prolly cuz i talk fast so this seems more natural for me 😂
and the comment section was hit by a buch of slow morons
TJ32 kerbal*
Wow, pitching reversely while landing, taking without assisting rockets. All unexpected.
Impressive operation, must have been fun to fly it.
8:51 - "For it's first landing it weighed 85,000lbs." For it's second landing it weighed 84,999 lbs because the pilot cleaned out his shorts...
I guess if the pilot dumped it overboard.
Max landing weight was 121,000 pounds.
Army/Airforce: land and take off C130 on a football field.
Navy: Hold My Beer.
Very....very funny
Football field is smaller that a super carrier flight deck. By about 3 times
I know this to be true, It was done in Vietnam,
Navy: well watch THIS
Well Army and Airforce Strapped Rocket to Get the C-130 out of the foot ball field ...the Airforce and Navy Demonstration team still using the C-130 Rocket version in Airshow
This tale has me thinking of "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo." (Except, back then, B-25 bombers were lifted onto the aircraft carrier flight deck, "bombed up," then took off into History.)
We brought OV-10 Broncos over Atlantic for PG ops. Launched them off 'Super Kitty Hawk Class' to fly on thru Europe. They kinda looked like B-25's taking off and disappearing over the ocean.(No catapult)
Are you referring to the Doolittle Raid?
The b25 dont land, they took off
If you liked 30 seconds over Toyoko, read
Dog Fight over Toyoko.
@@charliebrown6161 Who/what's this "Toyoko"?
USS "Forest-fire" as they say in the Navy.
I can't stop ROFL.
John McCain started one of them.
USS Zippo
My dad witnessed this landing and was onboard when a fire burned below decks for 9 days, reaching the compartment next to the magazine; which housed, among other things, a contingent of Mk 7 bombs.
@@MickeyD2012 It was called the "Forest fire" because of the terrible accident that occurred during the launch of an Alpha strike off the coast of Vietnam. An airman using a starter cart cooked off a missile that slammed into an A-1 that was fully loaded with fuel, 500 pound bombs, and a pilot. The resulting explosions and fire killed over 60 crewmen and badly wounded over 300 more.
@@SpaztasticTV The guy that had no business being a pilot in the first place.
Scatter the deck, Im landing my gird. Just one word for when this happened "Amazing"
Same line I tell all my women
My Father served on the USS Forrestal during his two tours in Vietnam. He was there when they had the big fire. Outstanding video and presentation.
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Every once in a while, someone needs a pilot to do something absolutely insane. Amazingly enough, not only do such pilots exist, they often succeed!
"the largest plane to land on an aircraft carrier"
people that landed a boeing 747 on a carrier in microsoft flight sim X: *PATHETIC*
C130 is bigger though
@@lucasbixley2325 but a boeing 747 is bigger in all regard to length wideness, and height
@@gdpanzer7333 a 747 also would not be able to stop on a carrier.
@@peteconrad2077 yes you can landings starts at 7:10 on video below
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@@HJ-zn5go so you think that’s an accurate representation of what would happen in real life?
😂😂😂 wanna buy a bridge?
The U-2 had some carrier time as well, which is more impressive. It wasn't designed for rough landings at all.
I would def watch that documentary on how engineers solved multiple issues and how the tests went.
U-2 can land to the carrier? WHAT
@@Armadauzbekistan www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2018-featured-story-archive/project-whale-tale-u-2-flights-off-aircraft-carriers.html#:~:text=The%20U-2%20was%20designed,“Kelly”%20Johnson%20of%20Lockheed.
@@tacitblue1973 It was speculated, not really achieved.
one landed on the kitty hawk 69 70@@Armadauzbekistan
By the time this got declassified, I was in the Air Force (Early 70's). The Commander held a monthly meeting and usually showed a short info film prior to his "talk". He told us not to laugh when we saw the film. People started chuckling as we watched the C-130 approach the carrier. It then landed on the carrier. After that, you could have heard a pin drop in the room. The base I was stationed at was Little Rock AFB. It was a huge C-130 base. I did avionics repair on the C-130's and didn't think you could do that! It wasn't exactly empty either. I love watching this historic event. It's no wonder the pilot got the Air Medal for this! (Should have got it with brass balls clusters)
"It's no wonder the pilot got the Air Medal for this!"
Flatley was awarded the DFC. Stovall and Brennan were awarded Air Medals. Sieve was eventually awarded an Air Medal in 2004.
The pilots name is James H. Flatley III, he is the son of James H. Flatley Jr. How do I know this? Twice, I was his driver for the Change of Command ceremony for the USS Flatley (FFG-21) the ship named for his father, the ship I served on as an ET from 1987 to 1991. I didn't know about this back then, and since becoming a pilot myself, I wish I did. He was very nice, sitting in front with me, while his mom and wife sat in the back, cruising down the pier, headlights on, two stars flying on the hood. Actually asked for me the second time around.
And since all of you are watching/reading this, look up VADM Flatley and see what he did during his Naval career.
USS Flatley (FFG-21), The Flatdog, Have Courage, Call Sign NJHF. Still serving after 40 years in the Turkish Navy as TCG Gemlik (F 492) .
ET2 Spowart (ret) AKA Sprout
I died when he said they called the carrier USS Zippo
I got a vision in my head of a huge hatch opening up on the deck, a striker being flipped, and a large flame shooting into the air.
I'm the 30th like & ha ha ha.
In July 1967 off the coast of Viet Nam, the Forrestal had a serious fire on the flight deck. 134 sailors died and about 160 were injured. I was a COMSEC operator on Guam copying the radio traffic from the Forrestal. "Zippo" and "forrest fire" are used by some about the fire. Things were really bad when the Forrestal communicated with the USS Repose, a Navy hospital ship in Danang harbor asking how many beds were available. The Repose replied 150; the Forrestal responded “that isn't enough!” That was a terrible day for the Navy. Please forget about the USS Zippo and USS Forrest Fire terms. Navy Chief Warrant Officer (RET).
@@NavyCWO That incident spawned a training video that is required annual training for all carrier sailors. (MM2 nuke USS Eisenhower 86-90)
Thats crazy. The pilots had to be even more crazy. Great video!
It's not that big of a deal honestly. The pilots train first, iron out the problems, then do it for real. They calculate and fly by the numbers. If they don't like something they abort and go around, etc. But yeah it's still pretty sketchy!
This blew my mind in so many ways I can't even count them.... Thank you for your work on this! Absolutely fascinating! No arresting hook?!?!?! Just incredible....
No steam catapult. Even more.
Flatly retired as a rear admiral and this weekend is his 90 th birthday, still going strong
Classmate of my old mans (USNA 56) and he was a legendary legacy Naval Aviator...Flatley III a true badass......
Okay at 9:00 i really thought we were gonna transition in to some Carpenter Brut for a minute there
ahh a fellow person of culture
oml lol
I was waiting for the drop. The drop never came.
C-130: “Was I a good plane?”
Death: “I was told you were the thiccest”
The US military consists of some of the most amazing bastards on this Earth. There seems to be nothing they cant do.
Unfortunately, the US military cannot remove the current liar & thief, tRump.
Yet I doubt that they have ever attempted to test landings on carriers with the jet aircraft's undercarriage NOT lowered - repeatedly - as the Royal Navy have performed successfully during the early jet era!
@@johnklumpp7901 Practicing crash landings is nuts.
But doing it when you can skid too far and drown?
Now that's a whole different level of mental altogether😂
@@larrylobster9107 Trump was the reason the US military completely bodied ISIS while Obama was too busy protecting the US and himselves image while trump just fucking moabed them and allowed the military to shoot through civillian shields.
@@jellomaster5629 We did lmfao. The entire point of the war was for the flex to dissuade other countries from joining the USSR. The US had no front lines and went only for kill count
Proud to say I worked on and flew on that KC-130F during my first enlistment and got to see it retire.
Wow..... As a Navy vet (AM3 VAW 116) that was on the flight deck crew. I can tell you that am in awe of this. A c130 with no hook! Those were some of the greatest naval aviators to ever live.
I served with the Forrestal carrier group back in 85-93.
We unrepped her many times between 85-90,
during the Libya campaign,
and during desert storm.
Great memories.
My dad was a herc pilot. ♥️♥️♥️. Cracking video!
Luke Molyneux Your dad was my boat boo
Mine too! Actually was an F-16 instructor for over 20 years but cross-trained in a few other aircraft including the C-130 the last few years of his career. Retired just last year!
@@Dev-In-Denver123 My old man was the CO of 36 Squadron in the late sixties, flying his Hercs back & forth to Vietnam. Before that he was a chief Test Pilot on all the jets of the day.
@@jimcottee8909 That's awesome. Test piloting jets in 60's especially was an important job.
"Do these things work? Idk, send him up and we'll find out!"
Haha, that's awesome for your father though, being a test pilot is hard and challenging and you have to be smart to convey things to the engineers.
'Look Ma, no hook!' Classic.
Wow, that shows what a great plane the C-130 is, applause for the crew(s) that managed such feats.
Excellent presentation about test landing and taking off of a C-130 by pilots with plenty of pride, integrity, and guts.
Remarkable feat by a well-trained experience pilot.
I love this channel and I love history thanks for all the hard work!!
Such an awesome airframe. I was honored to hitch a ride on the Blue Angels' C-130 Fat Albert before the Wings Over Houston Airshow about 10 or so years ago. They put on a great show for us and we even briefly experienced Zero-G and they did a really aggressively angled short-field landing (which was part of the demo for the airshow also). Definitely was regretting attending a Tequila Tasting the night before although I kept it together (barely).
Like the Vulcan doing aerobatics at the Farnborough Air Show. It' a bit b----- big...! Hats off to that pilot. Nerves of steel!
He was our CO in 1980 on the USS Saratoga. He's one heck of a nice guy and the best CO I ever served under.
I remember Ol' Zippy. Heard the horror stories from a photographer's mate assigned to that investigation.
Spent one shore duty at VC-3 NAS North Island in the early 1970's which were providing target drones for training and fleet operations.
Our two C-130A's were equipped as airborne launch platforms. MQM and BQM pilotless R.C. models that could exceed the sound barrier.
The old girls were quirky in their old age. Our assistant maintenance officer was forever looking for parts at the bone yard.
He told us the story about putting JATO on a Hercules and was a witness to these carrier operations.
Kirk: Mr Spock what are the odds of landing the Enterprise on the Enterprise
Spock: Captain I don’t see the purpose of gambling. But I do find that to be both a highly illogical and rather interesting proposition.
We're going to need a bigger ship.
And then Scotty would sugest to use the tractorbeam to pull the enterprise into orbit for docking
It’s one thing to land on an empty deck as a test, but imagine 20 F4s clustered each side...
I'm pretty sure that's one reason why it didn't get put into regular operation.
This was a "Can it be done, if we need to" test.
Is there anything the venerable ol' trash hauler CAN'T do?
"No."
And don't let a Spectre driver hear you call it that. :-)
I have crawled around that plane before behind the museum maintenance facility at NAS Pensacola. I was volunteering at museum maintenance while waiting to be "classed up" for aircrew training. Had no idea what it had done when I walked up to it. Ended up a KC-130J Loadmaster, so maybe that was the "moment" for me.
The pilot, James H. Flatley, was the skipper of an F-4 Phantom squadron later in his career. The squadron was VF-31. I was assigned to that squadron and Commander (at the time) Flatley was my skipper. One hell of a fine officer, one hell of a fine man!
Still sharp as a tack too.
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My dad actually met the pilot who landed that C-130
no one asked
Sweet
@@combinededgeforging1726 chill man
You kidding? One of my Civil Air Patrol officers was the Load Master!!
Why people get so butthurt from this lmao
Also, the Ballsiest man ever land on an Aircraft Carrier.
I mean... Really strong breaks and realy strong reverse thruster + ropes on the cariers... It was obviously gonna work
Also remember that an aircraft carier is also moving
@@derf5045 they didn't use the ropes as it doesn't have an arresting hook
I think the person who landed a Mosquito without an arrestor hook on a much smaller English carrier during WW2. It may have been Commander Winkie Brown but that needs to be checked. See ua-cam.com/video/d9Hjne0OA4w/v-deo.html for Winkie Brown describing his landing
@@derf5045 All four arresting wires were removed.
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I've always heard such great things about the C-130. This video tends to confirm what a great aircraft it is. All credit to the crew, but you have to respect the aircraft that has this kind of flexibility.
Your voice makes a plane landing as exciting as a ufo landing. Your narration technique is marvelous.
I cant spell P R O P E L L E R BUT YOU CANT LAND A BIG ASS PLANE ON A CARRIER LIKE I CAN.
"OK people, this job needs some 'can do', who's got the most 'deal-with-it' cards?"
Just because the plane is large, does not mean that it's landing or takeoff distance would be any different than a smaller plane... I'm pretty sure that the people put in charge of the task didn't doubt if it could be done and just set about figuring out the details and optimizations needed.
Considering no C-130 crews wanted to be a part of the tests, I think it's safe to there was doubt. But maybe those uneducated navy pilots (I'm being sarcastic) were afraid some terrible accident might occur n they didnt wanna risk it. The current record for largest and heaviest plane landed on a carrier happened during these tests. That's pretty impressive considering it happened over 40 years ago. Maybe you're saying that some people had complete faith that it was possible to land a c-130 on a carrier though. If that is what you're saying, I think itd be worth thinking about how much money and time would go into just planning something like this. Not to mention that actually implementing it into regular operations would mean that those in charge would have to be nearly 100% certain that nothing would go wrong in the future either.
Not trying to sound like I'm smart or that youre thought is dumb or anything like that. Just saying that I think you might be underestimating how complicated a monotonous task like resupplying a carrier can be
The weight of the plane does play a role in the required distance to land or take off, the more weight you have to accelerate the more energy is needed, the same goes for landing/stopping. Of course you have bigger engines and larger brakes on a larger plane, but the power to weight ratio is way higher on a fighter jet than a cargo plane.
@@kusikumpel absolutely. Which is why , after the first successful landings, they kept increasing the weight.
You're right. Depends on many other things: Thrust to weight ratio; wing surface area to weight ratio; and many other things. So, a larger aircraft with all the SAME ratios as the smaller plane will indeed make landing and takeoff runs that are proportionately larger than the smaller aircraft.
Can a 747 land on carrier then?
That is really cool!
I am neither an anchor cranker, or a pilot, but seeing this old footage makes me proud to be an American !🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I was aboard Forestal when they did this. It was a big nothing burger. The Herc had no problems at all.
“USS Zippo“ haha
CA 88 - My Master Chief overheard me say that. I never said it again... until he left the ship! (CV-59, 87-92)
Is there nothing the " Big Green Trash Machine" ,said fondly, can't do?
@Alan Robinson that's not entirely true. I can't remember if this UA-cam channel or another one did it, but during the planning of rescuing the hostages from Iran a modified some some for vertical landings and takeoffs it's pretty interesting
@@dougc190 Just strap vertical missiles on it))))
@@dougc190 Operation Credible Sport which didn't go well during testing.
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"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. I got about fifty feet out and suddenly the great beast appeared before me, i tell you it was ten stories high if it was a foot".
I knew both pilots. Good men. The copilot died of cancer way to young. The pilot was from a historic Navy family and later became a fighter squadron CO, Flying F4s, then CO of Saratoga, and retired as a RADM. Both were young Lieutenants when the landed the C-130 aboard, they were also Navy test pilots at the time.
Adm. Flatley was the CO on the Sara when I was on her in '79 & '80. He was the best CO I ever served under. His son was a midshipman at the time. While we were in the Med in 1980, he completed his 1500th arrested landing in an F-4 with his son in the back seat.
"Both were young Lieutenants when the landed the C-130 aboard,"(sic)
Stovall was a LtCmdr at the time.
@@AA-xo9uw I stand corrected. Knew them both on Saratoga in 72. Both were CDR ‘s at that time Smokey was on staff. Flatley was XO and then CO of VF 31
That is nuts! I had to watch the landing footage several times as I couldn't believe how short that stop was.
Getting an A-3 on and off the deck, still seems like an amazing thing. Basically a miniature version of a 737...
The North American Aviation RA-5 was in extensive use in photo-recon det. service with carriers of TF-77 on "YANKEE STATION" during Vietnam war. Large "Bird" - don't remember wingspan, but comparable in size to A3. Heavy & fast too.
@@walterbrown8694, wingspan on the RA-5 was 53 ft. A-3's was 72'6".
Shiiit that was crazy, these guys really lay their lifes on the line.
"After some notable Fires aboard the ship, the USS Forrestal also gained the nicknames 'Forest Fire' and USS 'ZIPPO' "
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
I worked on the flightdeck, absolutely insane to imagine a Hercules could land on the deck. Especially with no hook.
Wow that's awesome I didn't know that c-130 was at the museum i used to go there a lot and id see it sitting there out on flight line never knew that
Air Force engineers be like, "Huurr huurrrrr... Big prop plane go BRRRRTTTTTT"
Feels like the number of ads on these "Dark" channel videos is increasing exponentially...
Herc’s drink a lot of fuel!
@@RaoulThomas007 True, but the guy telling us about them doesn't...hopefully...although we've never seen his face. Perhaps he's a robot who drinks fossil fuels?
Either way, the ads are a little OTT considering the length of videos- I'm comparing to other vaguely similar channels I watch like Mark Felton, Curious Droid, Zepherus, Mustard, etc. Not expecting everyone to be like Drachinifel and have 0 ads while seemingly putting more work into his channel than anyone...crazy man (and a legend).
There was like a commercial every 3 minutes and anywhere from 3 to 5 minutes of commercials between. Hope that translates into money to Dark Skies.
adblocker in your browser, youtube vanced on your phone, problem solved. Support the channels you care about directly without giving money to this shitty platform that's only still alive because nobody can afford to build an alternative.
My dad served on the Forrestal at the tail end of Vietnam. Great history!
Amazing. Impressive.
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When I saw the first part of the title I knew it had to be a C-130
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"Fingered two USMC fighter pilots that couldn't even spell the word 'propeller'." I laughed pretty hard at that.
""Fingered two USMC fighter pilots that couldn't even spell the word 'propeller'.""(sic)
Actual comment:
5:39 Naval Air test center fingered two
5:40 fighter pilots who couldn't even spell
5:42 propeller
Flatley and Stovall were both squids.
Supply the thing that beats most Army's, Air Forces and Navy in times of war.
Hats off to the crew.
The Navy also once studied the feasibility of landing a C-22 (Military Boeing 727) aboard Forrestal. It could theoretically be done but only into hurricane wind speeds. The good news was that if a 727 could land somewhere - it could take off from there thanks to having plenty of thrust. They never actually tried it - but in some Dirk Pitt fiction novel the hero did just that.
Is the Forrestal the carrier that almost sunk itself off the coast of Vietnam?
I just looked it up. It is the carrier that almost sunk itself.
Maybe you need to look up the cause! If you are trying to be cute remember 134 sailors lost their lives that day.
@@terryconder3917 Someone parked a piece of yellow gear with the exhaust pointed at a rocket. RIP my fellow sailors!
@@johnjacobs1625 No one parked a piece of yellow gear pointed at a rocket. Static electric charge from a disconnected safety plug on the rocket pod caused the rocket to fire stricking the A4 plane on the opposite side of the ship
Yeah my chief was on that deck. Its the first video they show if you get sent to a carrier. Very sad
The USS Oriskany and the USS Enterprise. Both very tragic.
It is said that the flight deck of a carrier is the most hazardous job location in the world. Having worked there on 3 cruises I say that's a true statement. However, the eight or so decks below 'The Roof" are just a short step behind that for danger.
Smigol_Time: Laughs in B-29 landing on carrier in war thunder
Laughs in landing a MIG-21 on top of a skyscraper
Laughs in landing BV-238 on landing craft
I’ve seen that plane in person, it is or was out on the “flight line” at the National Naval Aviation Museum.
Hats off to the pilots of the KC-130.
Present Arms!! Proving that naval aviators are the best. Truly wings of gold!!
Smigol Time be like:
You’ve got a hole in your right wing!
That guy keeps flexing on us.
"When the plane was at 10', the pilot put the propellers in reverse."
He probably had to stall it just above the deck, which in of its self is amazing
@@maxwellclark6992 He stops it in such a short distance, it had to have been right there at stall speed when it touched. It was probably largely the headwinds keeping it up at that point.
cannot: reverse is applyable only with compressed landig gears (security swich on it)
@@leneanderthalien Sounds reasonable.
@@maxwellclark6992 The first approach was flown at 79 KIAS
Jesus how did they even do it
Intercept the ILS and fly the glide scope.. how else lol
They put the thing on the thing
798 is an aircraft I worked on while stationed at MCAS Cherry Point, N.C. 1982 1988.
Never know if it will work or not unless you try. Still, massive titanium balls on that pilot.
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"could't even spell propeller"...going to call bull crap on that one
And as far as not being able to find a C-130 crew to land on the deck ... B.S. as well. The Navy never intended for pilots with no carrier landing experience to pilot this experiment. They specified carrier qualified pilots from the beginning, as only makes sense. Hence, fighter pilots (or similar).
You just saw it!.. Let me guess CGI? ffs
@william coe Give me a break. It would be much easier to train a carrier qualified fighter pilot to fly a C-130 than to train a non carrier qualified C-130 pilot to land on the deck of an aircraft carrier AND THE NAVY WOULD KNOW THAT from the start. So, b.s. on that.
@william coe Were you in any military? Playing video games in your parents basement doesn't qualify snowflake. I have researched this event several times for my thesis and dissertation and there is NO official record of it ever being the case. Don't believe every "war story" you here and don't believe everything you see on the Internet. I'm done with this conversation. If you reply you will show just what an idiot you are.
It was a joke.
They used footage of this on the TV show jag.
Good thing they didn't let Cdr Harm fly it or it could have made its landing at Naval Air Station Davey Jones' Locker.
@@richardpehtown2412 Round Down Harm!
There was an episode of JAG were they copied this landing.
Harmon Rabb could do it all. He was awesome.
This is one of your best videos. I never knew about this and I had the same reaction as some of the pilots: “operate a C 130 off of an aircraft carrier? Someone’s got to be kidding”
I absolutely love the “Dark” family of channels! Mainly Dark Docs & Dark Skies bc 90% of what they post are historic military documentaries and that’s what I love especially the period starting with WW2 & up to the mid-late 80’s when they did all sorts of crazy tests and instead of doing those tests on a computer like they would today they couldn’t back then so these actually had to be carried out and like this 1 here regularly ended up with a successful test and the people involved going down in history! It’s crazy at 7:33 to see the Forrestal’s deck 100% cleared. It’s almost like it was going back out for her sea fairing trials. I’m curious if sometime in the future we will ever a see a time when the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy gets an opportunity at a carrier landing & take off? I would imagine that would have to be a new carrier built specifically around the C-5 to accompany her wingspan along with a new launching and arresting system to both push her big ass off the deck and catch her when she touches down!