POWERLINE AV1300 vs AV600 - Bad results! Best Review on Youtube - Extensive testing
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2021
- POWERLINE AV1300 vs AV600 - Bad results! Best Review on UA-cam - Extensive testing
I recently bought a TP-LINK AV1300 Powerline kit to pair with my existing TP-LINK AV600.
After extensive tests, i can attest the superiority of the AV1300 Kit in most situations.
However, interference may leave these products unusable!
Be sure to watch this video before you buy, to find out if powerlines will work for your current situation.
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Thanks for taking your time in these tests, it was helpful to know that Av600 doesn't have 5ghz and that is a big difference of technology for transmit more speed, also having account other devices connected
Hey there 👋
I'm glad it was helpful 👍
Thanks for the tests .I think they were very good and simulated different scenarios. You just saved me the headache of buying and testing myself. Good job !
Great. I'm glad they were helpful 👍
Great work on the tests. 1 question, was the tv only getting an over the air signal, coaxial cable or wifi streaming? If you have streaming tv setup that would obviously lower the bandwidth while the tv is on. It would not have anything to do with interference but be the utilization of the bandwidth on a second device.
I think that they add latency/ping to your network. I have a pair of these, but i did not test the ping yet.
I guess it depends very much on your situation, after a firmware update mine is a rock solid 200Mb/s... just a side note, Megabytes is a measure of file size, Megabits is a measure of transfer speed ;)
Thanks for that :) I honestly had no idea 🤣🤣
That was such a gooddd review. Thank you John 😊
Your testing is the most closest real world use and expected results because that is close to what I am getting. Sadly I was expecting full speed plugging through cable but it could not. I have AV1200 TP Link which they advertised 2Gb per second, my 500mbps contract can only get 150mbps in my next room of the apartment through cable.
This is such an interesting video, I don't know why I haven't come across it before now. I have been using TP-Link AV600 for some years and only now do I understand why the connection speeds can be so inconsistent.
I now wonder if having 3+ TP-Links on the same circuit will also result in a performance degradation.
Hey there 👋
I'm glad it was helpful 👍
That would be interesting to know. If you test it, please leave your findings on the comment section to help others 👍
Fantastic video and confirmed my suspicions
i had av5600s over the house nd had a good solid 30 to 40 mbs all over
House was completely rewired to the latest electrical codes as the house was renovated and its now down to below 10 bps,
i was going to pay a few quid to upgrade to av1300s but think ill save my money as watching this - they are basically a waste of money.
Will have to try and route a cable from the router to upstairs
Hey there. Thanks for the comment.
Best bet is to have all the powerlines on the same house wire and going through as less switch boards as possible.
And of course, try not to have many appliances connected to the same line, or it will just die off as i show in the video.
For me the av1300 were a waste of money... Lession learnt.. the hard way 😞
You rewired your house, you should have considered RJ45 cable for every room... That's what I'll do someday 🙂👍
@@John_Neves yep - think im going to have to throw them all out and go with a different way as want internet upstairs too as got comp and ps4s up there plus the whole house has wifi bulbs etc.
Looking at a mesh system now but reckon it might just be worth trying to get a wire upstairs to another router.
If I plug the base unit into my router on a wall socket on a different wall of the room, is this likely to be on a differnet line to the wall sockets on the other side of the room where the row of sockets are similar to what you have in your video?
I should think it would probably be the same line.. try turning off the switches at the switch board, and see if the same switch, turns of the power of both rooms.
The best review and comparison i’ve ever seen. Clear and basic. Thank you very much.
Thank you for your comment.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👍
I have the AV1300 kit at home, is their an additional, compatible unit that I can plug in(like the AV600) to boost signal in other rooms that is dual band, as I understand the AV 600 is only 2.4 gig !?
Correct. The AV 600 is only 2.4 but the speed is still decent. Any tp link will be compatible. Just choose one with dual band. Unfortunately i don't have that information for you, but any website will have it. 👍
I’ve been using the AV1300 kit between my house and garage successfully for 2 years. I purchased an AV600 extender to use upstairs in my house but it will not connect to the AV1300 base unit with internet.
I will connect to the Wi-Fi but does not have internet connection. TP link claims they are all compatable but I cannot get a internet connection over Wi-Fi even in same room in same socket or other sockets on the same circuit which makes me wonder if the issue it trying to connect an older unit to a new me since both AV1300’s work fine together
That's strange. Mine are compatible both ways 🤔
So I am choosing between TP-Link AV2000 (their supposedly fastest one) or a Develo Magic 2 Landline - any experience with that? If so, what do you recommend ?
I'm sorry my friend. I only reviewed this one...
I have these and they work great for me. I get 130 - 200Mbps out of 200Mbps going through 2 switchboards and more than 300m away. My house is of newer construction and the power wiring seems to have little interference. My powerline adapter is plugged in 1st in line of a series of wall sockets with TV, Fan, 1 surge protector (Router + Wifi mesh main). I have have 3 ACs almost always running (2 in the 1st switchboard and 1 in the 2nd one).
This is to show that your mileage may vary and unless you are sure of your electrical installation and you test out first, you may not really know.
Hey hi there! My dad just recently bought one of these. I mean two adaptors but unfortunately no internet connection can be made to the tv. And my take is that the main router is Linksys brand so they don't work with T-P link adaptors OR extenders, right?
Sorry. Unfortunately i do not know the answer to your question.
@@John_Neves oh hey no worries man. I think I've found the answers. But thank you for giving me a response! Have a good day!
Nice video.
I live in the 4th floor of a building and Id like to have internet in my garage (which is floor -1). Is powerline a viable solution?
I honestly don't believe this would be a good solution.
That's a great test and very time consuming.
Great job 👍
Thanks man 👍
I hope it was helpful for you 👍
To keep it on the same “switch” without going to the circuit breaker, they are only useful in one room?
I don’t know of any house that doesn’t have different breakers for each room or at least each couple of rooms. Meaning that as an extender, how could you use this if , for example, my router in my kitchen to my bedroom-around 40 feet, are on separate breakers and in the box they are 4 breakers away. I am assuming from your information that these would be completely useless in any house unless your circuit breaker is wired at like 2kw to one breaker creating a house that is burning as we speak.
Just use as little circuit breakers as possible. The more you go through, the worse. Also if you connect many appliances on the same line, it's useless. Those where my tests. It's all in the video 😉
Great review. This really helped me. I have an av600 kit. I was looking at buying an av1300 kit to improve the connectivity but your video really clarified the advantages and disadvantages. Thank you.
Fantastic. I'm glad it was helpful for you 👍
Good video thanks. Made my decision. I was told the av 600 is discontinued in electrical outlets. Amazon still selling them, but, for how long. I have the av600 and lent it to my parents. Very simple to use
Glad I could help
How fast is your wifi speed?
Buen video y muy útil.¡Gracias por compartir!
Thanks. I'm glad it was helpful 👍
So the conclusion is I will do better with an AV600 rather then getting the AV1300 right?
That would depende on the switch boards the connection would have to pass by 👍
No switch boards, the 1300. Switch boards, the 600.
uau, it´is not expected. I think there are bad connection in the wires of the circuit in the same
outlet, and maybe it´s sparkling. It produces strong interference.
I would try to inspect the electric circuit (looking for bad connections) of the house.
All seems good. The interference comes from the connected appliances 😬
Ive just got the AV600, Still in box. I am hoping to use it in the garage some 60 feet away. No ethnet needed for laptop just wifi. Old house old wires, 1 fused breaker for ALL lights, one breaker for ALL sockets.
Let us know how it went. It will be interesting 👍
@@John_Neves Hi John, After setting up (as per your instructions) larger adapter in the garage (actually 70 feet away) the wifi signal on laptop was 1 bar very low and my mobile recieved NO wifi at all, however when I used the TP Link AV600 WLAN connection with their provided Pword, signal 5 bars, phone and laptop very fast great signal. They would not work when I shared/link with BT WLAN connection from the router. Hope that makes sence.
@@M-ANTONY-888 that's quite interesting. So from what i understand, you just switched the placement of both devices, used all original settings and it worked better?
@@John_Neves Sorry my explanation is not good. Set up everything as normal as it should be. But! No ethnet lead from the AV600 box in the garage into laptop. The signal from the router is weaker than the signal from the TP Link AV600 that is plugged into the router. When I used the routers pword it didnt work 70 feet away, when I used the AV pword provided on top of the larger one of the two it did / does. Almost like a new router?
@@M-ANTONY-888 understood. Thats the correct move. Use the Password of the device you are nearest too 👍
I have the AV600 and in 8 years i think i only had to re-pair once. They are super reliable.
Thanks for the comprehensive tests, your contract is 200Mbps, right? so why did you only get 40's beside the router? is that because your router is only N wireless? theoretically it can get at least 150Mbps, oh BTW why didn't your try to plug in to the power pass through?
And the AC1300 why it only gets 137? an AC wireless theoretically gets at least 433Mbps, you never mention the wireless speed of the router and the powerlines
Pass through gives the sames results...
Theory is great isn't it 😁
This was what i got in reality...
I would change the title to 'Be warned' instead of 'Bad results' cause the results are 'good' when you connect them to the same switchboard. I've also heard when you plug in a lamp (for example) in the powerline adapter, it will reduce the noise for better results.
I've tried the lamp. Just .akes things worse 😔
@@John_Neves Thanks for trying. 👍
Brilliant Review!!!
Thanks. I hope it helped you 👍
@@John_Neves It did, made me re-think my Powerline adapter and its limits
I'm in ur debt, you saved me from a lot of frustration and money wasted.
I was hoping to use it in order to extend wifi from home where my main satelite decoder is, to workhop where I have a multiroom and they both need to be in the same network.
Currently I barely got it together via 2 CPE510 Pharos devices from TP-Link and was hoping to improve that, with a bonus of having actually working wifi in the workshop.
I was afraid that two boxes on the way would be a problem but as you have shown it would still work. Unfortunately massive losses upon connecting other electrical devices to the same line make it completely useless for me. Shame, such a cool concept.
Nice. I'm glad the video helped you 👍
Intrigued by the British accent with the European plud sockets?
what if we plug in 5Ghz router to AV600 ethernet port?
AV600 will only give you 2.4. So you will always be limited.
I'm wondering if the power sockets are 110 - 120 v or 220 -240 v . its possible the 120 V appliances in North America produces less interference in products that aren't microwaves or fridges/freezers. I have to believe what I'm seeing but the cause doesn't seem clear. The two should not interact with each other. The power is running at 50-60 hz depending on the country and the powerline is running at millions of hz. Something is making noise clearly and nothing else is around . Unfortunate result, still gonna give it a go , maybe keeping in mind the upstream devices. Will also plug downstream devices into a power strip so as to be "filtered/cleaned".
Your voltage theory may actually make sense.
Please keep us posted with your results 👍
@@John_Neves John , I have obtained an identical set with the only change being the power delivery. The devices are in separate buildings separated by at least 150 feet of cable. Speeds are at cap and the latency has dropped 8ms overall compared to my wifi. the host device has many small devices plugged into it through a surge protector(power bar)such as a router, printer, modem, laptop, 45 watt lamp. the receiving device has a 95Watt tv plugged in and its turned on . I am so sorry for your results and would reach out to TP-Link for any possible solutions.
Interesting video but only testing Wi-Fi? The difference between the 600 and 1300 come into there own when used as a power line adapter and not a Wi-Fi extender. Please run some tests using the Ethernet connection on each to see the difference between them being used correctly. Should have just bought Wi-Fi extenders at half the price.
Hi there. Thanks for your comment.
These powerlines are mostly for home use, hence the WI-FI tests which is how most home users will be using them.
For office use, i personally always use RJ45 when possible. Powerlines and extenders only when there is no choice.
But for your reference, loss is the same, even with RJ45.
It's fantastic when you don't have to return to the switchboard and you keep all outlets on the same eletrical line.
But of you do, results are quite awful 😬
These were just my results, with my home eletrical configuration, which is similar to what many others may have.
It maybe diferente for you, and if it works out, fantastic 👌👍
@@John_Neves don’t take it as a bad comment as loved the video but would have been nice to see the lan speeds as well
@@scottmorley9173 oh of course not. All comments help viewers to better understand the units, and there real world applications, which are not always what you see on the box... 😁👍
@@John_Neves did you mean we'd still receive and transmit only 40's if we wired a 5 GHz AX5400 router directly to the AV600 ethernet port? your main router also has only 30-40, but that is because its wifi quality, not the AV link
shld hv a comparison at one location where reception is poor w/without the extenders
I been honest I see a very good result. I get a solid 25 Mbps whereas in my room with the WiFi, I can get anywhere from 2 to 20 Mbps. So to have a solid is much better for me.
btw u cant trust speed tests upload as it does some weird stuff while doing upload test but since this is wireless test ut would be hard to test the wired conectivity as that would give the best chance of good conection trough out
Jigaherts teeheee:) CirQuit? And how does it charge up with this "Internet" you speak of? Outlets/ports? HONESTLY is a lovely review, I'm only poking FUN. It being mean you speak REALLY cutely Bro, don't pay attention you are great! :)
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AV1300 gave only 55 mbps on the exact same setup where my AV600 was performing @ 82mbps (over LAN cable). What a waste of money. I'll return it obviously.
Why don't you also test it by directly connect a laptop to the ethernet port? so it is pure the speed of the AV and the wifi doesn't play a role
I did that too. Debit was just as bad...
I have also used these 2 exact units, in the same outlets in my home. I mean I have swapped out both AV600 adaptor for both AV1300 adaptors. I haven't mix the two. I'm not sure of the actual wiring length but the router is upstairs in a 2 story home and the 2nd unit is downstairs. I've had the AV600 for over a year and I have been watching shared video from a shared drive, plugged directly into the router. I was having issues, periodically, watching 4k video through the device although, I feel now, that these issues arise from the actual source video, and not the device itself. 1 thing most worthy of noting is that the AV600, even though it may be capable of up to 300 MBPS internal transfer speed, its ethernet ports are only CAT5 10/100 mbps ports so its true LAN speed will never be above 100 mbps. My real world results, using the Speed test all as well as teh TP link app are... ISP = 100 mbps (Actual LAN test vis Speed test = 97 mbps - Router reports 106 mbps) - AV600 Internal reported speed via TP Link App - 240 mbps - Wifi on the extended adaptor - 25-40 mbps - Transfer speed (Large file copy) from a computer on teh extender LAN to the shared drive on the router - 60-70 mbps, Speed test on my TV, plugged into the extender lan, 60-80 mbps.
AV1300 Internal reported speed via TP Link App - 360 mbps - Wifi on the extended adaptor - 50-70 mbps - Transfer speed (Large file copy) from a computer on the extender LAN to the shared drive on the router - 140-160 mbps. Speed test on my TV, plugged into the extender lan, 85-95 mbps (Nearly same as the PC plugged directly into teh router - Full ISP.
While I do appreciate the improvement in Wifi and LAN transfer speeds, my original issue of viewing some 4k video over LAN remains but its not all video so I'm assuming that it stems from the video packaging. These video's typically play just fine is if copy them to a USB drive and plug them directly into the TV
Update: I had been using the Through connector to connect some of my Home theater components, i.e. a subwoofer, HDMI extender and a charger... How silly of me... I moved those to a different wall outlet and got a bit of a gain, The reported throughput in the TpLink app went to around 400 mbps and the file copy LAN throughput went to 180 mbps so not a huge gain but noticeable. My TV, PC, and everything else was already on another outlet... Funny thing is that I think all of it is actually on the same breaker, just not the same outlet.
Thanks for the very detailed comment!
That's amazing, and I'm sure it will help others 👍
I believe with the newer models that have a passthrough socket, in the case of having a powerboard with multiple devices connected behind the TV in the family living room for example, you can avoid all the 'same electricity line' interference by simply ONLY plugging the Powerline into that wall and then plugging your powerboard into the powerline so that the only thing actually plugged directly into the wall is the Powerline. I guess these older models you were reviewing didn't have this feature and is probably why TP Link created it?
This unit has the pass through socket. I tried and it didn't make any difference...
Getting jiggy with the jiggahertz lol
🤣🤣
This is ridiculous I was hoping to connect this to my garage from my flat. Perhaps 100m away, I was wondering why it doesn't work.
Yeah.. its a bummer...
I just upgraded from AV500 to 1300AV.
My ISP contract is 200/100 Mbps.
I had 60Mbps Download and 100 Mbps upload (that's right, I had much more upload then download)
After upgrading I got 140Mbps download and 100 upload (limited by the ISP)
According to tp-link software in my powerline connection I should have 437Mbps... But I can only get 140Mbps.
PS-Obrigado pelo video
Pode ser das interferências. Se ligares muita coisa na mesma linha, perdes muita, mas mesmo muita força. Fiz esse teste aí no vídeo. Chegou a nem trabalhar com 4 aparelhos na mesma linha de tomadas....
Tira tudo o que tens nessa linha para veres a diferença. Tb convém ter as duas fichas tp link, na mesma fase. ;)
Obrigado pelo view +1 💪
@@John_Neves
Ao remover uma tomada com extensão tripla (e mais uma tripla ligada à extensão :D ) onde tenho 3 transformadores de telemóvel e uma lâmpada consegui uma diferença de mais 20 Mbps de download.
Mas se ligar a mesma extensão diretamente a um aparelho tp-link a velocidade não baixa. Ou seja o próprio tp-link serve como filtro do ruido.
O meu computador também está ligado diretamente nos tp-link através de extensões tal como a televisão e modem, box, telefone, ligados ao tp-link que distribui o sinal. Talvez seja por tal conseguir mais sinal.
Tanto teste que fiz, mas não o testei direto na tomada dos AV1300...
Vou testar.
Quem não tem tomada direta é que continua tramado...
@@John_Neves
Pois. Esses continuam tramados... A não ser que comprem umas extensões com atenuador de ruido.
Eu aproveitei umas das AV500 para filtrar os sinais.
Por mero acaso tenho duas dessas extensões com atenuador no pc e na sala onde tenho equipamentos mais sensíveis, como a TV e PC.
Falam também em mover os equipamentos 2 metros longe da powerline. Mas não consigo confirmar isso.
Tens uma opção de "Lower PLC-to-VDSL" nas AV1300 para redes com problemas de sinal que no meu caso ficou mais lento quando o ativei. Mas pode ser que melhore no teu caso.
Atenção há um bug que se ativares essa opção podes não conseguir desativar e tens de fazer reset ao equipamento (os TP-link são cheios de bugs).
Obrigado pela dica do ruido.
I have an AV600 kit and 200/20 ISP contract. Currently my ethernet speed is 60 Mbps Download / 10 Mbps upload. Do you think it is worth to get an AV1300 kit in my scenario ? I want to get the same 140ish numbers you got.
Instead of just testing powerlines AV1300 and AV600, you were actually also testing the speed of 2.4 and 5GHz, in short, the 137 Mbps you got is due to 5GHz, not because you connect to AV1300, this was proven by the facts that you only got 40's on 2.4GHz, about the same with AV600 and the router on 2.4GHz
The interesting thing is AV1300 - AV600 is faster than a pair of AV1300, what if it is reversed, AV600 - AV1300? what if you connect the away node directly to a PC with an ethernet cable?
With or without ethernet, the powerline debit was still always very reduced the more switchboard i had to go through, or appliances i connected to the same line...
I read on the site there are only two protocols in effect for data transmission , Version one capable of up to 1gb/s LAN . Version 2 using MiMO (multi mode operation) or multiple streams of data can reach up to 2gb/s LAN. would likely be more susceptible to interference but in an interference free zone it would allows for better transfers. Data quality depends on distance and thickness of home wiring minus interferences. When pairing two different models the speed will operate at the slowest model.
I think a mesh wifi network is better.
🙂👍
You really need a 40 minute video for this? I don’t think so.
Actually I found the test to be extremely useful to demonstrate the different scenarios under the devices can run. Good job 👍
The content is all useful, but it could have been edited into a shorter video
Thats bruno fernandes. Proof me wrong.
Total BS, I am using TP-LINK TL-PA7017PKIT between 2 rooms and the speeds are excellent.
Hey there.
Dude, your comment just shows you did not watch the video, or do not understand the bare minimals of an electric circuit.
Yes the speeds are excelente, but only with the clean conditions i mention in the video.
Please watch the rest of the video. It doesn't take that much time 👍💪😎
stopped watching
Your accent sounds very Portuguese 😂
I wonder why 😁😁🇵🇹
@@John_Neves booooora, estava mesmo a ver. Já agora, estou a pensar comprar um powerline AV1000 para a minha casa. Recomendas?
@@drumshero03 😁
Sim. Recomendo se ainda não tens nada.
@@John_Neves Vou-me mudar proximamente para uma casa nova, no meio do nada e vou comprar/contratar a Starlink. Como dizem que a cobertura do router é muito fraca, tenho de pensar em alternativas para ter internet no resto da casa, pois há quartos bastante longe do local do router e como queria uma solução sem 300 cabos ethernet pela casa, esta pareceu-me a hipótese mais interessante. Obrigado pela resposta!
AV1300 is a crap!
Av600 is enough for me, i have 100 download and 100 upload and get 93/94 respectively.