That last cleric was stacking pdr and debuff redux. That is your nemesis. Pdr stops the dagger/knife spam. Their will stops poison damage. And their perk reduces timer of debuffs further reducing your magic damage. Avoid these builds at all cost. You wont lose, but wont win either.
As a Rogue, your only counter to a PDR Cleric is Armor Penetration. Nothing else works against them as Perseverance makes Poison and Rupture deal zero damage and Protection From Evil shortens the duration to a single tick of damage.
@@marksmanmax1158 Agreed Perseverance vs Rogues, this build in particular could be particularly rough. Weakpoint/Thrust would help with the pdr aspect I suppose. Does True Magical Damage stack with Poison Weapon? If so that would negate some of the damage they are reducing?
3:40 is what's everything wrong with this game atm, especially with rogues. Double crossbow poison, run away with 20 knifes. Another reason why a throwable limit must come.
@jessehunt154 yeah thats kinda like saying I wish zed in league could just tank tower shots and also give sheilds to his teammates, The litteral assasin class with now completly silent footsteps without a perk should definitely be able to run up to whoever it wants and just straight up trade hits and win, w take dude honestly w take. Keep going off, like rouge mains need to learn for one it's a class bases game, your class has a niche and if your not happy with playing that neich then switch? You have a plethora of other meaningful options with drastically different play patterns. Your unhappy with having to play around the abilities your given? Pick a class with abilities you like! Jesus how is that so hard, invis plus instant massive damage is kinda balanced around your squishy. But oh yeah let's give the highest dps class in the game (slayer fighters with extreme gesr is the only higher melee dps) and just give them the out of more hp more stats and what ever else all the whiners want.... It's a glass cannons class when you can two shot people in their kits with true physical dmg, building idk fringe builds probably isn't going to be the most effective? Go watch the rouge running around with true dmg kits, he litterally two shots people with absurd move speed bonus and also still a millions throwables What the fuck are all the rouge mains crying about, if your unhappy playing a glass cannon don't play rouge, if you just want rouge to be an all around rounded out class go play fighter fuck. Rouge is honestly fine and last season (real season) the most climbed leaderboard was rouges in almost every category, it's almost like psychological advantages like being invisible are fun to play and still complelty viable. But if you made it this far I would love to hear how you would turn a glass cannon into an unstoppable unfindable untradeable class
Dude, face to face, rogue loses. Period. Wtf are you talking about? lol what’s wrong right now is actually the warlock with his insane curse of pain that just got buffed.
@@Y4mi2599 and a barb without franchiscas gets kited ad infinitum, a cleric cannot possibley catch a rogue or ranger, rangers cant kill pdr fighters without crossbow and even then its a messy trade, and warlock gets to do whatever they want at anytime every class that isn't warlock has downsides. I dont think rogue looks very fun to play but its definitely not fun to play against they run around and use 300 projectiles without ever getting touched its like a player controlled death beatle.
i believe his complaint is the "assassin" class doesnt do enough damage for its hp pool and feels like the "thief" class where anything it has is offset by someone or everyone having something stronger, now everyone got creep so ye
Yea also you needed all this knife or you would die haha Anyway you know maybe what it's best way to get rich in playing duo? I'm new to game ^^@@Y4mi2599
I was that fighter at 13:51 ggs to you man ❤ I didn't know it was you until I spectated you and that poison dmg hurt me so much, I have no magic resistance with this build.
Clerics were hard because most clerics run perseverance and protection from evil in goblin caves because it reduces all the DoT's from the PvE to next to nothing, but it also hard counters your build here.
i dont understand the ppl that says "rogue is op". Everytime i play this game, some other class 1 shot my ass, like barb or warlock, literally yesterday a warlock 1 shoots me with a grey weapon, we have to hit them 30 times, meanwhile they 1 or 2 shoots every rogue zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I made a build like this the other day but with a bit more PDR so that I could tank hits, dudes fully kitted were dropping in 3 strikes from rupture and poison finishing them off in like 2 ticks with the +15 MDMG.
creep needs removed, i was a heavy solo high roller player just came back after a long break this season goblin caves is ruined from creep honestly. such a joke ive been in 3k wizard kits and killed by grey rogues and fighters that just creep 24 7. its so over powered
NGL that first fight had me on the edge of my seat vs the warlock . the throwing knives vs that warlock were solid and defiantly the decider of the fight. I hope i find you in the dungeon one day good luck brother :)
12:00 we want longer ttk, but then this happens when its too long for one class and basically instant if you face a rouge as rouges get two tapped like 90% of the time lmao
yea I was thinking that too. Honestly think they should also limit throwables to the amount of space you have in your utility belt. So if you don't have space there you can't loot them or place them in your bag. Same for health pots and all that shit imho. People would be more inclined to think what they really need to take to the dungeon and not just filling their bag with an infinite amount of utility consumables
Cleric's 3 less damage from every source perk protects them from most ticks, you're stacking 11 magic dmg to do 4/5 poison a tick, he's taking 1/2 due to the perk so you're basically back to being a base kit rogue as a result
“We need to nerf rogue” few minutes later “if I didn’t have all these throwables, I would have actually lost” “Can you imagine if I went all in there? I would have lost” “This is what I have to do to kill cleric? I HIT HIM 15 TIMES!!” get your opinions straight bro. 😂 😂
Bruh every class he meets he is saying they are OP yet yet ! They all die in the end 😂😂😂 Good video if i ever see a rogue like you playing at range i wont bother chasing it if i dont have Speed.
Y4mi you are probably one of the most skilled players i have ever seen play rogue in this game, love yer vids, you are the reason i like playing rogue and bard so much, clerics are op asf nerf rogue :D
@@Y4mi2599 Might be misunderstanding your comment, but dagger mastery only applies to when you swing the dagger, so it doesn't work with off-hand weps like hand crossies and short swords.
People like this are why the games balance is trash. Fights a "PDR Cleric" and exaggerates that he "hit him 15 times"......A rogue that wasn't even making contact with the cleric and watches him fall over while while being so fast and having so much Dex that the (yes OP) Cleric can't even react once he's in and out of range. Joke. Yeah let's give Rogues more HP and Strength while we're at it, it'll go great with the move speed, Dexterity, multiple range options and ability to stack magical and physical DoT perks and skills......rip logic. I guess going invisible and being able to do all of the above isn't enough? Good news is that the Barb won't be the easiest smooth brain class after these peeps get their wishes
nah just someone who thinks taking 10 stacks of frannies or throwing knives in is a weak af strat and makes the game less fun for everyone involved. call me crazy.
@@ripdoff8549 did i not just demonstrate what happens if i get hit once or twice? I HAVE to use range with throwing knives and hand crossbows or else I die. All rogues that play in high ranks brings in that many knives just for that reason but you’re clueless and that’s okay
That last cleric was stacking pdr and debuff redux. That is your nemesis. Pdr stops the dagger/knife spam. Their will stops poison damage. And their perk reduces timer of debuffs further reducing your magic damage. Avoid these builds at all cost. You wont lose, but wont win either.
As a Rogue, your only counter to a PDR Cleric is Armor Penetration. Nothing else works against them as Perseverance makes Poison and Rupture deal zero damage and Protection From Evil shortens the duration to a single tick of damage.
@@marksmanmax1158 Agreed Perseverance vs Rogues, this build in particular could be particularly rough. Weakpoint/Thrust would help with the pdr aspect I suppose. Does True Magical Damage stack with Poison Weapon? If so that would negate some of the damage they are reducing?
3:40 is what's everything wrong with this game atm, especially with rogues. Double crossbow poison, run away with 20 knifes. Another reason why a throwable limit must come.
would be nice if rogues could fight any other way unless they start the fight with a huge advantage
@jessehunt154 yeah thats kinda like saying I wish zed in league could just tank tower shots and also give sheilds to his teammates,
The litteral assasin class with now completly silent footsteps without a perk should definitely be able to run up to whoever it wants and just straight up trade hits and win, w take dude honestly w take.
Keep going off, like rouge mains need to learn for one it's a class bases game, your class has a niche and if your not happy with playing that neich then switch?
You have a plethora of other meaningful options with drastically different play patterns.
Your unhappy with having to play around the abilities your given? Pick a class with abilities you like!
Jesus how is that so hard, invis plus instant massive damage is kinda balanced around your squishy.
But oh yeah let's give the highest dps class in the game (slayer fighters with extreme gesr is the only higher melee dps) and just give them the out of more hp more stats and what ever else all the whiners want....
It's a glass cannons class when you can two shot people in their kits with true physical dmg, building idk fringe builds probably isn't going to be the most effective?
Go watch the rouge running around with true dmg kits, he litterally two shots people with absurd move speed bonus and also still a millions throwables
What the fuck are all the rouge mains crying about, if your unhappy playing a glass cannon don't play rouge, if you just want rouge to be an all around rounded out class go play fighter fuck. Rouge is honestly fine and last season (real season) the most climbed leaderboard was rouges in almost every category, it's almost like psychological advantages like being invisible are fun to play and still complelty viable.
But if you made it this far I would love to hear how you would turn a glass cannon into an unstoppable unfindable untradeable class
just use a survival bow like what lol
Dude, face to face, rogue loses. Period. Wtf are you talking about? lol what’s wrong right now is actually the warlock with his insane curse of pain that just got buffed.
@@Quackster2929 Holy fuck a 5 months later comment!?!?
this guy just missed 12 throwing knives in a row then said "playing rogue is so frustrating if i didnt have all those throwables i wouldve died"
if i didn’t throw and miss those knives, he’d be free to just to w key me
@@Y4mi2599 and a barb without franchiscas gets kited ad infinitum, a cleric cannot possibley catch a rogue or ranger, rangers cant kill pdr fighters without crossbow and even then its a messy trade, and warlock gets to do whatever they want at anytime every class that isn't warlock has downsides. I dont think rogue looks very fun to play but its definitely not fun to play against they run around and use 300 projectiles without ever getting touched its like a player controlled death beatle.
i believe his complaint is the "assassin" class doesnt do enough damage for its hp pool and feels like the "thief" class where anything it has is offset by someone or everyone having something stronger, now everyone got creep so ye
Yea also you needed all this knife or you would die haha
Anyway you know maybe what it's best way to get rich in playing duo? I'm new to game ^^@@Y4mi2599
It's like complaining that Warlock is using Flame Walker/ Hellfire despite everyone dodging it 😅 It's caled zoning 😅
I was that fighter at 13:51 ggs to you man ❤ I didn't know it was you until I spectated you and that poison dmg hurt me so much, I have no magic resistance with this build.
He is the best slayer fighter thooo
Facts bro be jammin n slayin fr
Clerics were hard because most clerics run perseverance and protection from evil in goblin caves because it reduces all the DoT's from the PvE to next to nothing, but it also hard counters your build here.
using your surgical at 14:55 hurts me, you are literally 3 steps from a health shrine
need to use 7 of them for a quest... thats big ouf.
i dont understand the ppl that says "rogue is op". Everytime i play this game, some other class 1 shot my ass, like barb or warlock, literally yesterday a warlock 1 shoots me with a grey weapon, we have to hit them 30 times, meanwhile they 1 or 2 shoots every rogue zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I made a build like this the other day but with a bit more PDR so that I could tank hits, dudes fully kitted were dropping in 3 strikes from rupture and poison finishing them off in like 2 ticks with the +15 MDMG.
Started playing magic damage rogue again two days ago and the new stat rolls make it so fun.
He parried the throwing knife lol legend
Nice video SkinnyPete, I love your content
Dafuq was that knife parry of death yami? hahaha what a video bro! keep the good content flowing
yami always falls in love with gear from his oppenents when he is looting them. but those gears are often not that worth it, what he loots
creep needs removed, i was a heavy solo high roller player just came back after a long break this season goblin caves is ruined from creep honestly. such a joke ive been in 3k wizard kits and killed by grey rogues and fighters that just creep 24 7. its so over powered
first clip had the crossy lined up forever while he was jumping especially, could of killed him before he ever had a chance with a cut-throat there
That cyclops takes a fucking eternity to down.
I wish ironmace didnt make it so this is the only viable way to play rogue
Holy cow bro hit a knives throw. LOL
NGL that first fight had me on the edge of my seat vs the warlock . the throwing knives vs that warlock were solid and defiantly the decider of the fight. I hope i find you in the dungeon one day good luck brother :)
Clean gameplay but this throwable meta is super boring to watch/play/fight. Hope it gets tweaked I feel like the game is otherwise pretty good
" He's running. " Lmao, typically rogue gameplay
Bro only hit 2 curses and he almost died.
9:50 comical ahh death
How do you feel about this build in duos or trios? Or do you feel it only shines in solos?
Every player must learn that lesson the hard way.
If you're dodging a mage, don't jump off shit.
Complaining that cleric is OP after winning the fight is wild.
12:00 we want longer ttk, but then this happens when its too long for one class and basically instant if you face a rouge as rouges get two tapped like 90% of the time lmao
I seem to get two tapped on any class I play 😂
@RSkrub same unless I'm 50%+ pdr/mdr. Even then a juiced like +11 pr 16 dog stacking is crazy on weapons like the falcoin
Its kinda op they just let you have crossbows in your inventory loaded
this seems to vary from player to player. thelorr´s crossbows arent even loaded when equipped :D
yea I was thinking that too. Honestly think they should also limit throwables to the amount of space you have in your utility belt. So if you don't have space there you can't loot them or place them in your bag. Same for health pots and all that shit imho. People would be more inclined to think what they really need to take to the dungeon and not just filling their bag with an infinite amount of utility consumables
Cleric's 3 less damage from every source perk protects them from most ticks, you're stacking 11 magic dmg to do 4/5 poison a tick, he's taking 1/2 due to the perk so you're basically back to being a base kit rogue as a result
"if i didn't have all those knifes".... ong bro didn't hit 80% of those knifes
Bro why additional magic ? Why not true magic? Thanks
“We need to nerf rogue”
few minutes later “if I didn’t have all these throwables, I would have actually lost”
“Can you imagine if I went all in there? I would have lost”
“This is what I have to do to kill cleric? I HIT HIM 15 TIMES!!”
get your opinions straight bro. 😂
😂
4x hand crosbow xD insane
Damn Yami .. How are ya gonna say Lorr is the best slayer fighter then double back and kinda shit on him saying "I needed a video title"
i didn’t deny that fact LOL
ay how do you dodge that upward swing from the cyclops??
every rogue is backstabbing bastard also in real life
7:36 peak rogue gameplay.
this game has no outplay just ab who grinding enough for the 2-3-4k gear set
He is the best slayer fighter
Bruh every class he meets he is saying they are OP yet yet !
They all die in the end 😂😂😂
Good video if i ever see a rogue like you playing at range i wont bother chasing it if i dont have Speed.
Y4mi you are probably one of the most skilled players i have ever seen play rogue in this game, love yer vids, you are the reason i like playing rogue and bard so much, clerics are op asf nerf rogue :D
this build is better w a rapier for the extra poke range. gg brother wpwp
but the dagger mastery for ur knives + more damage when u shoot ur crossbow with the dagger
@@Y4mi2599 Might be misunderstanding your comment, but dagger mastery only applies to when you swing the dagger, so it doesn't work with off-hand weps like hand crossies and short swords.
@@NajamastirNA ur right, i forgot, thank you. The knives should still apply
@@Y4mi2599wait dagger mastery and trust helps with throwing knives????
@@madagaspar6988OMG OP NERF NERF NERF
Too bad creep is now ass again..
I seriously don't get why they keep making rogue worse and worse, especially after giving us something decent.
more bard vids pls yami!!!
Uses alot of throwing knifes cause misses 80% of them
greetings from Canada love the videos ( Do not recommend living here )
it really is pretty damn OP
i hope trowshits nerfed and come help like utilys
12:00 cleric is op but not the other class that literally 2 swings could have killed u? Idk why one is more op than the other plz explain
LOL Canada haha
sorry bro
Lmao this guy complains more than anyone I ever met 😂
People like this are why the games balance is trash. Fights a "PDR Cleric" and exaggerates that he "hit him 15 times"......A rogue that wasn't even making contact with the cleric and watches him fall over while while being so fast and having so much Dex that the (yes OP) Cleric can't even react once he's in and out of range. Joke. Yeah let's give Rogues more HP and Strength while we're at it, it'll go great with the move speed, Dexterity, multiple range options and ability to stack magical and physical DoT perks and skills......rip logic. I guess going invisible and being able to do all of the above isn't enough? Good news is that the Barb won't be the easiest smooth brain class after these peeps get their wishes
throws 500 gold worth of knives at ppl lol what a loser
must be a ranger main
what the fuck else is he supposed to do?
nah just someone who thinks taking 10 stacks of frannies or throwing knives in is a weak af strat and makes the game less fun for everyone involved. call me crazy.
@@ripdoff8549 did i not just demonstrate what happens if i get hit once or twice? I HAVE to use range with throwing knives and hand crossbows or else I die. All rogues that play in high ranks brings in that many knives just for that reason but you’re clueless and that’s okay
@@Y4mi2599 I'm sure there are ways to play rogue that don't include playing like a bitch
Bro talks about nerfing rogue? It’s a dead class lmfao. Literally said if I died with the 2k kit? Ya bro that’s the rogue you die in 1 hit maybe two?
I think its a joke n
bro no way, i spend the last 30 mins building the perfect mag dmg kit for pois and i come here to take a break and see you post this. kick ass.