Full Preparation and Drive of a full sized ex GWR Steam Train 5619! Lawrie goes Loco Episode 43

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  • @telfordsteamrailway
    @telfordsteamrailway 2 дні тому +112

    Thanks for visiting our railway and driving our flagship engine. We really enjoyed having you, hopefully next time you visit it’ll be a cleaner job !

    • @bwilesuk
      @bwilesuk День тому +2

      Yes please XD t'was a good day though.

    • @leightonmoreland
      @leightonmoreland День тому +4

      great! Now you're making him be the cleaner too!?

    • @TransTaey
      @TransTaey День тому

      ​@@leightonmoreland but of course! lol

  • @NextEevolution
    @NextEevolution День тому +34

    I can't remember the last time I was so thoroughly entertained by the immense suffering of another person.
    In all sincerity, I did appreciate all the effort you went through starting, lubricating and filming all of this! And that of the volunteers keeping this engine running in preservation!

    • @bwilesuk
      @bwilesuk День тому +3

      Never before have I had such difficulty of pointing a camera in to a black void to try to film the oiling up! Oh the tales! Thanks for watching

    • @NextEevolution
      @NextEevolution День тому

      Thanks for your efforts too! I was wondering who was helping Lawrie film too!

    • @bwilesuk
      @bwilesuk День тому +1

      @@NextEevolution Joshua from the TSR, and myself :) very cooperative effort!

    • @railwaymad
      @railwaymad День тому

      ​@@bwilesukgood work 👍

  • @gs425
    @gs425 День тому +20

    We used to have one here at swanage, 6695.
    It lurched forward on every piston stroke, spilled tea in the first carriage. You could feel it waddling along with its two big cylinders. The hammer blow to the track was atrocious, and let's be honest it never really fitted in on an otherwise Southern line.
    That said....I grew to love it. It had great character!!

  • @Hitperson
    @Hitperson День тому +37

    Lawrie clearly needs to hire a small Victorian child to help oiling this thing up next time...

    • @EMEME27655
      @EMEME27655 День тому

      😂

    • @mark7321
      @mark7321 День тому +1

      Came to write this. These engines came out of the works with a skinny 8 year old tied to a brass oil can.😅

  • @bwilesuk
    @bwilesuk День тому +16

    Just to note during the outro where he says "next year" he means this year, being 2025, for the centenary. I can also say the people at Telford are very gracious and kind.

  • @citricamoeba
    @citricamoeba День тому +6

    I have a strange fondness for the 5600 class, something about how rugged they look. Happy Birthday 5619!

  • @Nova_Blaze
    @Nova_Blaze День тому +3

    That shot of her coming out of the tunnel in a cloud of steam was absolutely gorgeous. I think that might be my favorite part

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 2 дні тому +5

    I just hope that someone will Sponsor Lawrie to go to the US and have a look at some of their steam locos.. Now those are some seriously big locomotives.
    With that said,, huzzah for another video. I love LMM. :)

  • @BennyBizzle1
    @BennyBizzle1 День тому +2

    Lawrie, I love your videos, but every time I watch you prep a steam loco, I am grateful that I drive diesels 😂😂

  • @anthonylulham3473
    @anthonylulham3473 День тому +1

    32 mins is peak railwaying! a champion showing how things were done! Well done Lawrie! i had a good chuckle.
    Sent £10 to the overhaul, I doubt ill see her running in person as I'm far too far south but every little matters.

  • @oldmandoingstuff8997
    @oldmandoingstuff8997 День тому +1

    Awsome, Camera Placement During Run. Takes a lot of time an Effort. Tks for adding to History for us all.
    I found Myself Duvking My Head With Camera shot under tracks, Lol,,,😂

  • @EMEME27655
    @EMEME27655 День тому +3

    Great video but the prep looks like a nightmare😂

  • @joelightrailway2362
    @joelightrailway2362 День тому +5

    I really like the Taffy tank 5600 class and they’re very unusual looking loco. But I really like them. I really was incredibly surprised the Telford Steam Railway doesn’t have an pit, I guess they watch your vid with you on Pendennis Castle and thought it be amusing that you do it again with the Taffy tank. Truly great entertainment.

    • @bentullett6068
      @bentullett6068 День тому +1

      They do have a inspection pit but inside their maintenance shed.

  • @anthknill
    @anthknill 21 годину тому

    What a great video Lawrie and showing off that engine and railway well. Great watching you oiling underneath too 😜. All the best Anth Knill 👍

  • @joeyvampirowellsteed
    @joeyvampirowellsteed 2 дні тому +6

    Nice loco that, had a great turn on it during its short stay at Llangollen

  • @stevesalvage1089
    @stevesalvage1089 День тому +3

    Super , what a party oiling that up , thanks lawrie interesting ,

    • @bwilesuk
      @bwilesuk День тому +3

      I can laugh at it now that I'm not wedged in to the side of the thing covered in oil lol

  • @andrewrussack8647
    @andrewrussack8647 12 годин тому

    Love the mini LMM headboard on the RH lamp post! 👍

  • @gregoryandrews4956
    @gregoryandrews4956 2 дні тому +5

    Nice! I had a footplate ride on this loco back in 2019 when it was on loan to the Swindon and Cricklade Railway (my nearest & Wiltshire's only standard gauge heritage railway), brings back memories.

    • @himaro101
      @himaro101 День тому

      I thought they had a GWR Green example

    • @gregoryandrews4956
      @gregoryandrews4956 День тому

      @himaro101 they do. It returned from the East Somerset Railway in 2020 just before the first lockdown, and that is 5637. Plus, it's owned by the 5637 steam locomotive group & is currently awaiting heavy general overhaul.

  • @BexonBoy123
    @BexonBoy123 День тому +2

    45:55 Them new build houses will have such a great view of this beauty, jealous!

    • @HowardLeVert
      @HowardLeVert День тому +1

      They'll probably moan about the noise and smoke...

  • @michael32A
    @michael32A День тому +5

    22:54 - All engines require a plank to clean out the smokebox, just the Taff Tank is the only engine that requires two.😉 Jesting aside, I think we also needed a [wooden] plank on the 16XX in 2008 at the North Norfolk when that visited for the summer alongside, oddly enough, 5619! 5619 becoming the first engine I fired (as a brand-new Cleaner) for a while round trip at the end of August. Lovely to see it here!😃

  • @jaymesmith7361
    @jaymesmith7361 День тому +1

    Truly a very useful engine indeed!!

  • @gunnardannehl372
    @gunnardannehl372 2 дні тому +2

    It's a pleasure to listen to your humoruos even sardonic commentation and all the details you give to the loco. Gives me a grin.
    Especially the part when you are about to crawl into the frame. 😂
    And the Germans in previous years complained about the 4 cyllinder compound steam engines - why tho? Compared to that, they gave huge clearance...

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman День тому +5

    So we now need model figures of a lying down Lawrie to stick inside the motion gear of our model engines.

  • @liambobson1
    @liambobson1 День тому +1

    Amazing video! It's probably harder to organise compared to the smaller locos but would love more full size content like this ❤

  • @Odd_Redneck
    @Odd_Redneck День тому +4

    32:45 lol just think back when this was built being 5'9" was huge. Being 5'5 was normal.

  • @Arkay315
    @Arkay315 2 дні тому +7

    5:28 "there are two ways of doing things, the great Western way and the wrong way"

  • @BrokenIET
    @BrokenIET День тому +3

    22:55 The USATC S100 comes to mind. I think I‘ve heard of crews doing it on the 1500 panniers too, but don’t quote me on that.

  • @railwaymad
    @railwaymad День тому +1

    Brilliant and entertaining video guys. A real joy to watch. Loved it ❤

  • @alanclarke4646
    @alanclarke4646 21 годину тому +1

    Sorry Lawrie. As a GWR nut, I have to disagree: GWR locos always look best in GWR engine green. And the imperial units of tractive effort were pounds-force, in metric it is of course, Newtons. ( 1 pounds-force = 4.44822 Newtons )

  • @lukenash1000
    @lukenash1000 22 години тому

    Love seeing bigger steam locomotives on LMM

  • @highball5550
    @highball5550 12 годин тому

    Awesome video, Lawrie!!! And I thought the 1917 Baldwin 2-6-2 I helped do cosmetic work on was a nightmare to get under and move around in (for reference I’m 5’11”). The only thing I can somewhat relate to is being in the sandy dirt under the cylinders or under the #1 driving axle. For some forsaken reason, Baldwin decided to put her brake cylinders between the cylinder saddle and the #1 axle.

  • @oldmandoingstuff8997
    @oldmandoingstuff8997 День тому

    The Oiler Man in the 1920's when He First time crawled into the under, to oil, Said Profanity that echos even now into 2025, WOW, no Big Boy Oilers need apply ,.
    Great Job Lawrie!

  • @williamsantangelo
    @williamsantangelo День тому

    Thank You Lawrie, great history well explained!

  • @PeterJewell2
    @PeterJewell2 День тому +1

    I think possibly my favourite class of loco, Lawrie. They have a brutish beauty to them. A real no-nonsense locomotive -- sounds and looks fantastic.
    Thank you for a very informative and thorough video.
    I have two models of 56xx's. The first is a Bachmann OO which has been (professionally?) weathered, and which I got for an absolute bargain. Gorgeous. Runs beautifully too, and rest of club members are very jealous!
    The second model is O-gauge, made of wood (!) on a Lima battery chassis, and sadly not yet working. It is the reason why I am now also modelling in O-gauge! In theory, your video gives me no excuse for not adding a full cab interior. (But I need to get it working first.) It is going to be renumbered 6664, which was a celebrity loco rather surprisingly based at Slough shed for many years. I have a photo of it about to haul the local service from Slough to Windsor. A pair of autocoaches cannot have been much of a struggle for a 66xx!! That would have been a sight chuffing over the viaduct!

  • @thomasspencer1185
    @thomasspencer1185 День тому

    Love these types of locos, makes me miss seeing 6619 when it used to be based at North York Moors

  • @andrewrussack8647
    @andrewrussack8647 12 годин тому

    I reckon two tone and multi-tone whistles sound fantastic!

  • @MrAsBBB
    @MrAsBBB День тому

    Just a thought, they should stick some plastic mirrors (not on the hot bits) under there so you can see what you are oiling. Fantastic video and a joy to watch

  • @1toonhead
    @1toonhead День тому

    This thing is a beast. Something I would want to drive and own.

  • @snowpea809
    @snowpea809 День тому

    Lovely episode!

  • @martynwarren3192
    @martynwarren3192 10 годин тому

    As always a great video.

  • @richardhale2449
    @richardhale2449 День тому

    Really interesting, informative and entertaining video. One of your best.

  • @himaro101
    @himaro101 День тому +2

    I'd love to see you do a LGL on a Pannier Tank. Absolutely my favourite engines out there.

    • @bwilesuk
      @bwilesuk День тому

      That would be lovely

  • @bradleysainsbury
    @bradleysainsbury 2 дні тому +1

    Hey Lawrie !! Good timing !

  • @Valleys56xx
    @Valleys56xx День тому

    Hooray! My favourite engine ever! A Collett Goods Tank engine! My ugly/beautiful thug of a loco! BR black with unicycling lion - I have 40 ex-GWR locos in OO with this lack of livery with extra stinkyness including a good number of these steam powered gorillas lol. Red route for the Welsh valleys of course. My neighbour when I was a sprog was a 56xx driver then changed to the tractor class 37 diesels. My channel name is in memory of Don. I love the videos of them dragging tons of coal down to Cardiff, Barry (where I live) and Newport. I probably played on this loco in Barry Scrapyard as my dad knew Dai Woodham and still I know his son...

  • @Kilnline
    @Kilnline День тому

    Awesome video Lawrie! Glad you had a great time with 5619 at my local heritage line. Hopefully you'll come back one day... maybe to drive the steam tram?

  • @JH55000
    @JH55000 День тому

    One of the very first engines I ever worked on, had some lovely turns. I remember we had a plank to spread across the buffers for emptying the smokebox, if it was wanted

    • @bwilesuk
      @bwilesuk День тому

      oh, we used one alright! Just odd to have to need one XD

  • @phil69881
    @phil69881 День тому +1

    I knew of a driver (about 5' 6" tall) that had the best way to sit whilst driving GWR side tank locos chimney first. Sit astride the tank and reverser, with his right leg dangling outside the cab and his left inside.
    6619 used to do fairly well on the NYMR with 7 on. I think it also had a chime whistle fitted for a while....

    • @michael32A
      @michael32A День тому

      Yes, that and a Kylchap exhaust, with its multiple concentic petticoat-pipes to maximise the draughting. I remember as 6619 visited the North Norfolk in 2009 in that form in early BR black, the year after 5619 here did so in late BR green when I was a Loco Cleaner and had fired a few round trips on 5619 (didn't get chance to crew 6619 to compare with/without the mod's). I understand 6619 has been de-Doncastered since?

  • @taloire43
    @taloire43 День тому +4

    I now know why a driver told me, at the time of the changeover from steam to diesel, that he much preferred driving a diesel!

  • @SimonTog
    @SimonTog День тому

    Great done video :)

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 День тому

    great video !

  • @HowardR-gy2pw
    @HowardR-gy2pw День тому

    Well a first for me. An engine I've driven too, back in 2016 on the Churnet Valley Railway. Re wooden extra for standing. I remember a loco needing one too and I THINK it was the Super 'D' .

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 2 дні тому +2

    This is an exceptional Great Western locomotive where function trumps style! It’s is a power lifter for a 0-6-0 loco!

  • @VictoryWorks
    @VictoryWorks День тому

    Simply glorious!

  • @ZwilnikSF
    @ZwilnikSF День тому +1

    A can with an attached mirror might be handy for some of those underside oiling points.

  • @zippy5131
    @zippy5131 День тому

    I love older machines and the engineering that goes with them. The fact that with some you can give them their head is awsome, shame you could'nt with that old girl. But time will tell.

  • @jb-fy1oc
    @jb-fy1oc День тому

    Great video❤

  • @TFFJH-g7t
    @TFFJH-g7t 2 дні тому +1

    This is my favourite type of loco

  • @josephkarl2061
    @josephkarl2061 День тому +3

    23:15 The SR class Q1 also required a board across the buffers to access the smokebox, but I think it was just a board and didn’t have to be custom made 😎

    • @Adam.railfan1
      @Adam.railfan1 День тому +1

      That’s because they didn’t have even have running boards. interesting machines they are I still love them though

    • @stuartross282
      @stuartross282 День тому

      Build during the war to save materials

    • @scottsweeny6647
      @scottsweeny6647 3 години тому

      I was thinking exactly this! Good stuff

  • @dliles773
    @dliles773 День тому

    Lovely video

  • @PedalBox
    @PedalBox 20 годин тому

    Doing all that oiling up (at 6'4) with a pit at Tanfield was bad but that has to be the worst possible version of it. Props to the camera bod following along and finding angles. At least you got oiled as well in the process, for future generations!

  • @ArcadeAzrall
    @ArcadeAzrall 2 дні тому +2

    Ah yes, the good old 56xx! I've driven this beast and 6695 many a time - oiling up is by far the worst thing about the locos, sometimes having the big-ends in the right position can make life easier for us "bigger" chaps!

  • @Sam_Dabboi
    @Sam_Dabboi 23 години тому

    Wow! Collett must've bloody hated drivers! Goodness!

  • @GreyWolfClanMerica
    @GreyWolfClanMerica День тому

    I'm sad that I missed you visiting my local railway

  • @LaurenceCorr
    @LaurenceCorr День тому

    Great video Lawrie

  • @sawyerawr5783
    @sawyerawr5783 День тому +1

    Given the amount of bad things you said about the poor thing, I'm surprised 5619 didn't take it out on you: last time I did that to an engine it contrived to cover me in soot and boiler water for my sins!
    Remember kids: no what anyone says, the engines can absolutely hear you...and they remember, oh BOY do they remember...

  • @ajorsomething4935
    @ajorsomething4935 День тому

    Some of those shots where lawrie was underneath this thing looked like a "found footage" horror project or something haha

  • @HiraethFilm
    @HiraethFilm День тому

    It may be my South Walean bias showing but I do adore these locos 😊

  • @jbhtrams
    @jbhtrams День тому +1

    Have you ever thought of buying one of those two foot long oil cans???

  • @conradharcourt8263
    @conradharcourt8263 Годину тому

    Considering that they built the railway around the locomotive, they might have built an inspection pit!!!😊

  • @JakeCollingham
    @JakeCollingham День тому

    32:55 Imagine walking your dog and just seeing that 😂😂

  • @frankw8772
    @frankw8772 День тому +1

    I hope you visit the location of Barry Scrapyard ….. to see what is left of the scrap yard.
    With your fire engine. What was that steam locomotive frame that the engine was sitting next to when set off ( 39 minutes). Loved your name tag on the engine

  • @KibuFox
    @KibuFox День тому

    I remember reading somewhere that the engine crews of these locomotives, actually preferred to run them bunker first, as opposed to smoke box first. This was because they apparently rode better in reverse.

    • @nick-c
      @nick-c 21 годину тому

      Quite common with 0-6-2 and 0-4-4 tanks I believe

  • @jamesmchenry4708
    @jamesmchenry4708 День тому +1

    ...seeing you clamber around a maze of steam locomotive, _with fire lit,_ and getting all oily, really puts the UA-cam mechanics who won't work on anything without latex gloves on into perspective.

  • @runaroundstu
    @runaroundstu 2 дні тому

    Your down the road from me in this one wow.

  • @JRS06
    @JRS06 День тому

    Very rarely would I say that BR black was the nicest livery a loco could have, but I might agree in the case of no. 5619. Given how odd the class looks, it makes it resemble many BR locos which underwent many design alterations by the end of their life.

  • @evielewitch8851
    @evielewitch8851 19 годин тому

    Oh hey, my local

  • @MichealRandall-q2x
    @MichealRandall-q2x День тому

    I’m sure they used a plank across the buffers on the Q1s too

  • @forrestrobin2712
    @forrestrobin2712 День тому

    The first time I've heard anyone else call that a sunroof 😂😂😂. It's always amused me. Great minds think alike Lawrie (he said modestly). There are of course two ways of doing things - the Great Western way... and the wrong way 😊
    BTW, how long did it actually take you to get the baffle plate back in ?
    I'm having withdrawal symptoms Lawrie 😢. It's 16 years since I had the joy of lighting up and prepping an engine. Must have been either an NA 2-6-2T or the G42 Garratt on the Puffing Billy Railway.
    Appreciate your suffering, but admit it, you loved every minute. On the CFV, no one wanted to clean out a smokebox and steam clean the tubes... except me 😂. There I was covered in soot from head to foot and happy as a sandboy. It reminds me of the kids who love horses, they're quite happy shovelling horseshit out of stables for hours just because they are close to the animals they love. We are the same with our iron horses. (I don't mind shovelling horseshit either 😂).
    At least on a Vivarais Mallet, most of the oiling points have stoppers attached with a small chain, so you can't drop them 😊
    Has to be said, but the WR enginemen who prepped these in the day must've been overjoyed when they started getting Class 25's 😂
    Time for you to drive an 8F or a 2800 2-8-0 if you want POWER 😂
    Brilliant !!!

  • @mrgreenandwhiteneverinvite9532

    Cool video

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin День тому

    "Ugly Duckling"???? No way. lovely class of loco that was equally at home on the coal trains or taking me and other passengers from Cardiff to Barry Island, and based on a proven wheel arrangement used by the Taff Vale Railway, Rhymney Railway and others.

  • @SDE1994
    @SDE1994 2 дні тому

    there was a lot of friends in high places and back room deals which resulted in the GWR getting favouritism at the grouping which i assume then led 5:44 onto the favouritism of not having to change their numbers

  • @wellingtonnorthjunction3911
    @wellingtonnorthjunction3911 День тому

    You will have to come back and have a go on the tram (when it’s finished)

  • @DaiElsan
    @DaiElsan День тому

    From memory, the 56xx had problems running forward. Crews preferred running them in reverse, especially on Western Region tight curves as the trailing wheels helped lead the engine into the curves.

    • @TransTaey
      @TransTaey День тому

      a usual problem for locos without a leading truck, as they tend to hunt due to that

  • @shopdog831
    @shopdog831 День тому

    Still easier to grease than a DHC-8 landing gear. Its much like this but with more climbing and laying on top of the thing with grease zerks digging into your rib cage ,with exhaust flue in similar position to the boiler overhead. I think over all each landing leg is like 50 grease points.

  • @NSMerryweather4771
    @NSMerryweather4771 День тому +3

    Q1 needs a plank for smoke box

  • @ProtonTheProtogen
    @ProtonTheProtogen День тому +1

    You can tell Lawrie hates inside-cylinder locomotives

  • @bentullett6068
    @bentullett6068 День тому

    These are strange looking GWR loco's. I have a Bachmann model in the BR lined green and that colour suits it.
    I have been to the Telford railway. It's a great little railway, and I can't wait to see it venture to Ironbridge. I am noticing from google earth that the majority of the trackbed looks cleared out.

  • @Railfan513
    @Railfan513 2 дні тому

    Choo choo you would love the KVR (Kettle Valley Railway) in summerland BC Canada it is really old over 100 and a has a big steam locomotive that is 125 or 115 years old and it’s still chugging along great

  • @HowardLeVert
    @HowardLeVert День тому

    A couple of things: strictly speaking, the LMS had 40000 added to its numbers - but also, how on Earth do you clean the smokebox out? I remember seeing it at the NVR when it was there.

  • @ChrisHessert
    @ChrisHessert 17 годин тому

    Even though I'm an American, I do know running gear inside the frame isn't uncommon on British (European, too?) steamers. I've wondered what daily maintenance was like for that situation: now I know. Thank you.

  • @stefantrnacek1394
    @stefantrnacek1394 День тому

    Would it not be possible to put a longer handle on the brake? I know it would alter the leverage, but you would get used to it.

  • @RG-Models86
    @RG-Models86 День тому

    There's nothing ugly about it as far as I'm concerned. 😁

  • @Dan-jf3pc
    @Dan-jf3pc День тому

    Lawrie goes playing with Colletts Taffy Tanks

  • @eliotreader8220
    @eliotreader8220 День тому

    being set forwards does that mean the lever for the cylinder drains is open and back is closed

  • @davidolah925
    @davidolah925 День тому +4

    It's not just aesthetics choice to run head first up a gradient, because the water in the boiler flows to the lower parts and it's safer because the firebox would be always under water up the gradient and there would be less risk for it being dry. 8:46

  • @RedtailFox1
    @RedtailFox1 День тому

    This locomotive's design, at least in terms of the layout of all the lubrication points, makes me think that the designers forgot that they were needed and then had to fit them to the design as an afterthought. It is the perfect example of an designer going "F*ck it! I don't have to work on it so it can go there!"

  • @oldmandoingstuff8997
    @oldmandoingstuff8997 День тому

    Were Corks, always used?❤Did the Under oiled box Corks ever come out during Runs ?
    Greetings from 66yo Alabama USA.

  • @jvmalta081
    @jvmalta081 День тому

    what kind of oil do you use to fill the lubricators?

    • @bentullett6068
      @bentullett6068 День тому +2

      A company called Morris lubricants create a range of steam locomotive and engine oils. I think it's known as compound cylinder steam oil.

  • @guardezio
    @guardezio День тому

    Who thinks 5619 need's a name? I'm thinking... Lawrie the Great 😉
    Serious question though. How come there is a cleaner on the footplate in preservation? I thought the cleaners job was before the engine goes off shed 🤔

  • @HeavensGremlin
    @HeavensGremlin День тому +1

    The origin of these locos really goes back to the Taff U1's. The GWR needed to replace these with a powerful, small-wheeled, short-wheelbase loco - so the 5600's were really Swindon's take on the Taff Class U/U1.