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You could probably place some of the all time best guards, in regards to who else is up there with Jokic for passes? Also, I'd recommend "Nikola Jokić Passes, But They Keep Getting More Ridiculous" by Bleacher Report, as being a great showcase of some of his best assists
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What’s crazy is that traditionally big men aren’t great passers or playmakers, that’s the point guard’s job, like Stockton. But Jokic’s court vision is ridiculous, like Wayne Gretzky (I’m Canadian lol).
From an assisting and passing standpoint, I think Jokic's only peers are Magic Johnson (who I think is #1) and Jason Kidd. John Stockton is up there, but the majority of his assists were just to Karl Malone in the pick-and-roll. The difference between Jokic compared to Magic and Kidd is that they weren't nearly the scoring and shooting threats that Jokic is, so it allows him to set up his teammates even better because defenses have to devote so much effort to keep Jokic from lighting them up from the 3, mid-range, and post. The only other player who I consider and equal passing as well as shooting threat is probably Steve Nash. Nash had that "black hole" magnetism as well because he could shoot from anywhere on the court.
Thanks for the comment and info, we really appreciate it 🙏 Have got these on our list to watch, especially had a lot of mentions for Magic. We’re looking forward to seeing him 🤝
Even if John Stockton got the majority of his assists to Karl Malone, 15,806 assists is a lot of assists. Other great passers were Steve Nash, Gary Payton, "Pistol" Pete Maravich, Isiah Thomas, Tony Parker, Muggsy Bogues, Tim Hardaway, Bob Cousy. Chris Paul and LeBron are also up there in carrer assists. Think they are currently #3 & #4 in all time assists. But yes, Magic Johnson made it look goooood. So definitely check out Magic's highlight video. He and Larry Bird were inspired by Pistol Pete.
You're forgetting Larry Bird, while Larry didn't pass nearly as much as Jokic, Larry is like top2 all time in passing skill. Jokic's passing style, while it has some uniqueness, I think it is most similar to Larry Bird's passing style
Top assist players to look at: Magic Johnson: arguably the best passer ever (at least, so far), but missed a lot of games due to HIV John Stockton: current record holder for the most assists, by quite a lot. Not the flashiest but is the textbook point guard Jason Kidd: a notch below the other two but extremely spectacular Note that all three players specialized in assists and were unlikely to score as many points as Jokic (and didn't come close as rebounders).
In a nutshell.. we are currently witnessing a unicorn make history in the NBA. He's created so many new NBA records and surpassed the majority of all time greats and it's just his 8th season and playing his prime years! But he's been neglected and slept on by casual fans in the eye test and also from media which struggles to sell his I.Q and introverted manner
Thinking Basketball's "Is Nikola Jokic the best passer ever?" is a great video on this subject, it gets into the case for him as the best passer, who his all time competition is in that role and all their different skill sets when it comes to their claims to that title. It also touches on how Jokic has a bit of all of their games in some regard
At 2:20 when he shows the assist numbers, #2 on that list is Jamal Murray, the point guard for the Denver Nuggets, it's basically him and Joker on the court for 40 minutes a game. Murray was also 4th in points. 7:18 you ask who is the best assister ever, toss a coin up between John Stockton and Magic Johnson. Personally I think Stock had a slight edge on Magic fundamentally but Magic had well, magic. Both are guys that are top tier fun players to watch. As far as stopping Jokic, no Idea, If the 30 greatest basketball minds and 500 best players can't figure it out, I got nothing. But I also live in Denver and would really like for this to keep rolling as well.
As a fellow Brit who enjoys most North American sport(NFL,NBA,NHL and MLB anyway) Its great seeing other Brits get involved and wanting to learn about these sports, I chose the Denver Broncos as my NFL team in the late 80s(when I was about 4) as I loved the powder blue helmets and orange jerseys lol. But because of that I now follow all the Colorado Teams, Nuggets included. To get on to the topic of Joker there were stats popping up through out the play offs about where he ranked in terms of other "great" players. And one thing that was never taken into account was the number of games he played. The Nuggets only lost 5 games all post season....so they played 21 games and he was being compared to players who had played 25+. As with the stats in your video, people were saying that Jimmy Butler was only 3 points behind Joker so it wasn't that impressive.....But Jimmy played 1 more game than Nikola and still couldnt outscore him. Thats why I think his post season run this year is one of the best in NBA history and he really showed MVP level talent and I hope it washes off all the crap he got the last two years for winning it.
John Stockton has the most assists overall in NBA history. But if you want the flashiest passer, look no further than Jason "White Chocolate" Williams.
Thanks for the info, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Appreciate the comment! Have got white chocolate on our list too
He is already the best passing center of all time so he doesn’t really even have competition to reach outside of the all time assist record which is held by John Stockton with 15,800 assists.
btw, the guy at #2 on the assists list of the playoffs this season, that jokić is 60 assists ahead of, is his teammate jamal murray, fun fact. so jokić is probably finishing a bunch of those 122 assists of the #2 passer too, along with his own 180 assists.
John Stockton has the most assists in NBA history. His record is so insane that no one currently playing in the NBA even has a chance to break it because he's so far ahead on the leader board
@@cheeseoh He's probably only asking that to downplay him because he played with Karl Malone and the Jazz's pick-n-roll offense, but go look up videos of Stockton's passing ability and be amazed.
@@duchaneaux I like my point guard to be able to dribble with their off-hand. Jazz score keepers juiced his assist numbers (check the home and away disparity). Combine that with being lucky with longevity and playing with a dominant forward also lucky with longevity, and Stockton’s not near what the numbers suggest
Magic Johnson is probably the benchmark as a passer. But Jokic’s size makes it a real argument. Love watching you guys learn the game. Earned a sub. More Jokic content!
the best passer all time is proabably Magic Johnson, however, John Stockton has the all time record by a long shot. the closest player still playing is Chris Paul who is 4000 assists behind stockton's record. he's also the all time steals leader by nearly 1000 ahead of chris paul. i suggest watching a video of people talking about john stockton and how underrated he is. had he not had to face michael jordan in the finals him and karl malone would have at least 2 championships
Simply put, Jokic is the best "decision maker" ever. People look at flashy play makers, but what separates Jokic is that he almost always makes the best play for th situation. It sounds simple, but paired with his ability it makes him one of the best players ever. I'll say it now, he's one of the best 5 players in NBA history, if you go by peaks. If he plays similar to this he has a very very legit shot at ending up on the Mount Rushmore. Simply put, there has never been a player who makes plays, shoots as well from deep, rebounds, and can score from everywhere on the court as well as he can. He is an absolute unicorn.
I've never played sports, but I've watched NBA games and it seems to me that NBA basketball has turned into a run-jump-dunk! Jokić brought the GAME back to the NBA because many forgot that it is a team game, that you are not alone on the court and that you should not neglect joint success. As far as I'm concerned, Jokic is the real game manager of the team
What a great video from you guys. When Jokic came into the NBA we all knew he was good, but nobody sad his brilliance and intelligence transforming himself into this basketball prodigy. I am sure that NBA coaches are hard at work trying to devise a defense that slows him down. Very few players dominate the game with impunity without someone finding something that is effecting at neutralizing them. Jokic has great vision, great skill and most of all great intelligence and aptitude for the game of basketball. He'd be a great coach someday. I hate that he destroyed my Lakers, but you gotta admit that he is arguably the best player in the world right now. ♣
Great reaction, Gents. The bench mark for assists would be John Stockton. The all-time leader in assists. I know you've said you're gonna get to Dwayne Wade. He's a must watch.
Thanks for the info Dennis, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Appreciate the comment and support. We have got him on the list, we’ll keep chucking out lots and lots of Discord polls
Just a terminology tip. People don't really use the term assisting or assister. Even though the stat is termed assists, people always say passing or passer. Of course, people will still know what you mean so not the biggest deal but it would make you sound more natural.
Typically the point guard position runs the offense and gets the assists. You often hear point guard in basketball and quarterbacks in football get compared to each other for having that decision making role that distributes the ball to their open teammates. Most will say Magic Johnson is the greatest passer ever, and there are tons of point guards that are considered amazing passers, but every once in a while you get a rare player like LeBron or Jokic that can basically take over the point guard role and quarterbacks the offense from a different position. LeBron is the greatest small forward / power forward passer, and Jokic is the greatest Center passer. LeBron is #4 in all time assists so he’s right up there with the greatest point guards of all time. Jokic is still young in his career, but if he can keep this pace, he’s well on his way up there too. He’s certainly the most talented passer from the center position that I’ve ever seen, and I think that’s why the NBA is struggling so much to guard him. They’ve never seen this before. He’s so unique.
John Stockton perfected the pick and roll with Karl Malone in Utah, Magic made the passes that Jokic is doing from players cutting towards the rim. Having lived in Denver, CO all my life to this point we never felt the Nuggets would win a championship (47 years in the makjng) until Jokic! He is an all around great player!
He's an incredible talent, but with comparing his scoring to other players, I do want to add the caveat that this season was ridiculous with how much more scoring there was in general. Scoring 40 or 50 points in a game used to be an incredible accomplishment, but this year it lost some of its luster. And with the increased scoring also comes increased assists. They used Shaq's 1999-2000 playoffs as a comparison. In the 99-00 season, the average points per game for a team was 97.5. This season it was 114.7.
@@kennethward4985 You guys say bs like this when everyone complains to refs, literally everyone. I saw the GOAt imo MJ literally complain to a ref and got him to reverse a call but since you dislike LeBron he's the only one highlighted
SHAQ! Gotta watch him. He was living on an army base in Germany as a teenager. He walked up to a Dale Brown, the LSU basketball coach visiting the base. Shaq asks if he could get tapes of players using footwork. Brown asks Shaq, "What's your rank soldier?" Shaq replies "No rank, I'm 13 sir." Shaq was sent video tapes every week.
Magic I think is the most common name brought up for best passers. Stockton is also mentioned a lot, for good reason. I’m on the slightly younger side so I didn’t watch either of them. I started really watching in 2006 and the best passer I’ve ever seen is Steve Nash. Please watch him. Another commenter mentioned the gravity thing with him. It was also mentioned in this jokic video. And I know you’ve watched Steph curry videos. It’s similar, though it not quite as pronounced as it is with Steph. Lebron, rajon rondo, Luka, harden, Chris Paul, Jason Williams, John wall. All of them are also good. Nash is the best though
Remember this was a guy drafted 41st overall in the second round back in 2014 during a Taco Bell Commericial. Not like he cared back in Serbia apparently because he just went back to sleep after 😂 Seriously the man is like one of those players you could only see in a video game. Traditionally, his position is to dominate the paint but he plays as a Point Guard stuck in a Center's body and he does well for both positions
Thanks Felix, will add them to our list, also, videos in the suggestions channels on Discord are really helpful too if you’re not already on there with us! 🙏
John Stockton is the all time assists leader, Magic Johnson I would say had one of the greatest peaks as an assist artist, but he only played 13 seasons as opposed to Stockton's 19 hence why he's lower down on the all time assists leaderboard. Other honorable mentions are Jason Kidd and Chris Paul, possibly Steve Nash and LeBron as well. Jokic's career is still young but at the rate he's going he could definitely be in the conversation when all is said and done. He is; however, the greatest passing big man we've seen so far.
In terms of assisting at the Center position, Jokic can only be compared to Arvydas Sabonis, who was widely considered to be the best passing big man the league had seen. However Sabonis was not the player (or passer) Jokic is, more apt comparison would be point guards like Steve Nash, John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson, and Magic. In terms of assists there's a lot of different ways to find teammates and orchestrate the offense, Jokic behaves like a "floor general" point but those types of point guards historically don't tend to score as much as Jokic. In terms of being a 1-man offense where your teammates are an extension of your scoring, it's really Jokic, James, and Magic, and maybe Grant Hill that come to mind. Oscar Robinson as well but that was a very different game. Jokic's combined talents are singular. He's got the vision of Magic or James, the strength to make outlet passes like Kevin Love, the deftness to put the pass exactly where it needs to be like Chris Paul, and a little bit of sauce like White Chocolate. His kind has never been seen before.
Top assist guys I'd say are Magic, John Stockton, Oscar Roberton, Isiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, and Chris Paul imo. Jokic probably the best Big Man passer of all time though. Some great flashy passers include Bob Cousy, Pistol Pete, Jason Williams, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Rojon Rondo, Manu Ginobli. Other great passing bigger guys include Lebron James, Joakim Noah, Arvydas Sabonas, Bill Walton, and Wilt Chamberlain, Lebron being a hybrid wing/big unicorn
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Serbia will have to wait after the hangover from the team partying it up in Vegas. Bruce Brown dropped a vid blaming #15 for the reason he's had a rough morning.
Staying home on all Nuggets players except Jokic, using a good and strong post defender, with a long athletic help defender on him (usually helping off Aaron Gordon) is probably the best way to defend Jokic, but even then it only works so well.
if you really want to learn more about basketball, i'd suggest a channel called "thinking basketball". They do a very good breakdown of plays/concepts and in general really great at explaining various basketball concepts
Based on what I'm seeing, Jokic plays smart and without ego, and that makes him all around brilliant. If I was going to get into watching basketball the way I do with hockey, it would be thanks to him.
I would love to see you do a video on Kawhi Leonard's 2019 championship run, as seen Ithis video, one of the greatest ever, or just on him in general, one of the best, if not the best player in the NBA, just been injured
Y’all should watch Thinking Basketball if you want to really get into the weeds of how basketball is played within the minutiae of each player. Does great breakdowns of players strengths and weakness and overal team game planning. Also was one of the real first guys to call Jokic as one of the best offensive weapons the NBA has ever seen - BEFORE he won his first league MVP.
to answer your question @ 7:15 hes the best passing big man ever ..unless you count Magic who is 6'9" but was listed as a PG. overall Id say hes top 10 probably top 5..Magic, Jason Williams, Kidd maybe Nash ahead of him
Jokic definitely is the best passing big man the league has ever seen. I’m not sure if he’s quite the best passer the league has ever seen. I think Magic Johnson probably has to be number one.
John Stockton is the assist leader of all time and a great passer, but Magic Johnson is the best at consistently making flashy passes that you don't see coming . Jokic is already the best passing big man of all time, he has the potential to be the best passer of all time in my opinion
Jokic is right up there already with the best passers of all time. Easily the best big man passer ever. It’s hard to say best ever yet. As far as most assists ever it’s John Stockton by a mile. Magic Johnson made assisting an art. LeBron is a fantastic passer, right up there with all of them.
For playmaking/“assisting,” gotta check out Jason Kidd and Steve Nash. Ramon Rondo is fun too, but none of them broke 6’5. Jokic is in a league of his own for players not in the guard spot, even compared to guys like LeBron who are incredible (but overrated imo) passers. There’s an NBA video of the best 60 assists of the decade or something, worth a watch!
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One thing I want to mention is Jokics passing. Obv, its impressive but historically, Centers have been the worst passers on the court. In previous years, if a center got 4 or 5 assists they had a nice night. This is why Jokic is already considered the greatest passing big man ever. He's revolutonizing the position!
He definitely isn't the first great "big man" passer. Walton, Arvydas Sabonis, and Draymond Green have already had a headstart just to name a few. What makes Jokic better than these guys though is how he's the main hub for their offense whether it ends up an assist to a teammate or points for himself. The others mentioned are usually not the main scoring options despite being a primary or secondary playmaker
John Stockton is the all time assists leader. He cared more about finding the open player who can make the easiest basket then just scoring himself. If you want to see the craziest passer in NBA history, check out Jason Williams
I don't think there's any way to completely stop Jokic. Your best bet is to make him have to score ALL the points. Don't let his teammates get warmed up or engaged in the game. Combine that with attacking him when he's on defense and hopefully he just gets tired lol.
Jokic is a cheat code, everyone was taking shots at his defense but not because it was bad, but only because his offense was so good people made that narrative, people Jokic guarded these playoffs had horrendous fg%, it's just unfair in a way. Also this is what you get when you build a home grown base team, Murray, Joker and MPJ all drafted by Denver, and then Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray has this insane chemistry with Jokic, it's like three of them are connected in some weird paranormal way where they always know what is the next thing each of them are gonna do before they do it. If you move Joker now to some other team, I don't think he'd be THIS good but this is what happens when you are patient and let the guys build themselves up together over the years. As someone who played pro sports, it is INCREDIBLY hard to beat a team that is gonna punish you for every little mistake you make and even harder when that other team almost never make mistakes, it's like a grinding machine, incredible.
Getting a lot of assists is different than just having that natural talent for passing, although obviously the most naturally talented passers will generally get a lot of assists. LeBron James is revered as one of the great passers in league history, but he only averages a little over 7 assists per game for his career. Now, that's still a lot of assists relatively speaking, it's the 24th highest career assist average all time, but the majority of people put LeBron as one of the 10, maybe one of the 5 greatest passers ever because of the many different types of passes he's able to make out of any kind of situation imaginable. Some players just have those gifts, and Nikola Jokic is one of those players.
I think when it comes to assisting I think it was ginobili. He was huge about that but he would also take a shots. To be fair I also think Nicola does well in our current game. Because there's a lot less actual big men. I would like to have seen him go up against Tim Duncan or Shaq. But everybody wants to shoot the ball and be the big score.
Nobody has figured out a “solution” to Jokic. I think the best strategy I’ve seen is to guard him with a big, strong, athletic 4 who that’s they’re whole job and have the center soft doubling, lurking to block shots but also guarding the corner or dunker spot. The Lakers did this with Hachimura on Jokic and Anthony Davis roaming. They still got swept lol. If you hard double, he will pick you apart and if you don’t double at all, he dog walks you to the hoop. That’s why he’s the best player in the league. He has the most avenues to impacting the game and nobody has figured anything out to do with him. Most teams don’t even have the personnel to attempt what I think is the best idea with the big 4 guarding him.
How to stop him? Better question is how to stop the Nuggets WITH him. I think the answer starts with length. The length the Nuggets also happen to have, with A-Aron Gordon and Micheal Porter Jr - both 6'10" or better and jumpy. Jokic passes OVER people. Denver has talent and is extremely well coached. Their scheme isn't new or special - their level of execution is, so to stop them one needs to scheme, get buy-in, and practice. A lot. Denver is also a very good defensive squad for the same reasons.
John Stockton is your guy for assists. He holds the all-time career assist record. No one - full stop - NO ONE will catch him. He also holds the career record for steals which is also a rather unreachable record. John Stockton was the THE ideal Point Guard. He’d get 20+ pts, 15 ast, and 5 stl a game. Some of the all time greats agree. He’s the best at playing Point Guard. Other greats at passing… Magic Johnson. The greatest show man the NBA has ever had on court. They didn’t make another Magic Johnson and they never will. Jason Williams. AKA “White Chocolate.” I don’t think I need to say more to peak your interest. As for stopping Jokic? You don’t play the game with getting points in mind. You have to full commit to a 2-3 zone or a 1-3-1 zone. The 1-3-1 I think would be the most likely solution. The other thing you need is the NBA’s 1st Team All Pro Defense line up to be able to run a 1-3-1 zone and commit fully to the idea of winning a game 84-83. Running zone in the NBA is for whatever reason not great because it takes 5 guys moving as one fluid cell of players. With one goal and one mind in defense. There is a lot of ego in those locker rooms. The Spurs of the 2000-2014 era did it well. On offense you have to not turn the ball over and run the shot clock down all the way before you take a shot each possession possible. Give the Joker less time to joke around on offense. You’d likely have to run a classic Princeton style pick n’ roll against the nuggets and just wait for the size mismatch to open up. In this idea there is quality to a missed shot if it’s taken with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock. You need to have the ball a lot more and make the other team feel like they have to play faster. If the other team presses and shots within 20-24 second range and misses and you get the ball back that’s nearly 45-15 out a minute of game play. You can do that all game if the offense is patient and makes the easy shots when the need to. Again, the Spurs of 2000-2014’s did it well. Which leads me to my bonus addition to the list if you made it this far. My favorite player of all time. Tim “The Big Fundamental” Duncan. This guy is the idea of a team player. Only player to record a a QUADRUPLE DOUBLE in the playoffs. A true blessing the basket ball and I’ll Donny Brook with anybody who think otherwise. The TLDR version is you can’t stop Jokic on the current Nuggs roster. He is the best center I’ve ever seen. He is Tim Duncan on 11.
I had to google this. But i knew it was john stockton with most career assists and he had 15,806. Not sure how update jokic stats are but in google i saw he has 3959 assists
Can't back this up with stats but the best passers of all time by my eye include Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Steve Nash, and Jason Kidd. LeBron's also up there. Jokic is well on his way if he keeps this up for a few more years.
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You could probably place some of the all time best guards, in regards to who else is up there with Jokic for passes? Also, I'd recommend "Nikola Jokić Passes, But They Keep Getting More Ridiculous" by Bleacher Report, as being a great showcase of some of his best assists
Also by Bleacher Report, if you want Jokic scoring, you should watch, "Nikola Jokić's Best One-Legged Fadeaways | "Sombor Shuffle""
LeBron James passes are more insane imo if y’all can look up a good video of it, but great reaction! Hate that NBA season went by so fast
Benchmark for assisting, Magic Johnson, but Jokic is better which is insane.
Jxmyhighroller has (imo) the best basketball videos on UA-cam not just because they're great but his stuff is very watchable for casual fans. Definitely keep him in your rotation for basketball videos
Definitely
Him, thinking basketball, Johnny arnett, and Clayton Crowley, and Andy hoops, All amazing channels for info.
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John Stockton’s assist numbers are insane!! Jokic is probably the best passing big man ever, but Stockton is the all time assist leader
Thanks for the info Sean, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Appreciate the comment!
What’s crazy is that traditionally big men aren’t great passers or playmakers, that’s the point guard’s job, like Stockton. But Jokic’s court vision is ridiculous, like Wayne Gretzky (I’m Canadian lol).
It's tough to compare Stockton to Jokic considering that Jokic is doing a lot more scoring and when you score, you obviously aren't making assists.
From an assisting and passing standpoint, I think Jokic's only peers are Magic Johnson (who I think is #1) and Jason Kidd. John Stockton is up there, but the majority of his assists were just to Karl Malone in the pick-and-roll. The difference between Jokic compared to Magic and Kidd is that they weren't nearly the scoring and shooting threats that Jokic is, so it allows him to set up his teammates even better because defenses have to devote so much effort to keep Jokic from lighting them up from the 3, mid-range, and post. The only other player who I consider and equal passing as well as shooting threat is probably Steve Nash. Nash had that "black hole" magnetism as well because he could shoot from anywhere on the court.
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Even if John Stockton got the majority of his assists to Karl Malone, 15,806 assists is a lot of assists. Other great passers were Steve Nash, Gary Payton, "Pistol" Pete Maravich, Isiah Thomas, Tony Parker, Muggsy Bogues, Tim Hardaway, Bob Cousy. Chris Paul and LeBron are also up there in carrer assists. Think they are currently #3 & #4 in all time assists. But yes, Magic Johnson made it look goooood. So definitely check out Magic's highlight video. He and Larry Bird were inspired by Pistol Pete.
honestly its only nash and jokic up there for me but i cant decide
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You're forgetting Larry Bird, while Larry didn't pass nearly as much as Jokic, Larry is like top2 all time in passing skill. Jokic's passing style, while it has some uniqueness, I think it is most similar to Larry Bird's passing style
Top assist players to look at:
Magic Johnson: arguably the best passer ever (at least, so far), but missed a lot of games due to HIV
John Stockton: current record holder for the most assists, by quite a lot. Not the flashiest but is the textbook point guard
Jason Kidd: a notch below the other two but extremely spectacular
Note that all three players specialized in assists and were unlikely to score as many points as Jokic (and didn't come close as rebounders).
Jason Kidd was a great rebounder. He averaged a triple-double in 2007.
In a nutshell.. we are currently witnessing a unicorn make history in the NBA.
He's created so many new NBA records and surpassed the majority of all time greats and it's just his 8th season and playing his prime years!
But he's been neglected and slept on by casual fans in the eye test and also from media which struggles to sell his I.Q and introverted manner
Thinking Basketball's "Is Nikola Jokic the best passer ever?" is a great video on this subject, it gets into the case for him as the best passer, who his all time competition is in that role and all their different skill sets when it comes to their claims to that title. It also touches on how Jokic has a bit of all of their games in some regard
At 2:20 when he shows the assist numbers, #2 on that list is Jamal Murray, the point guard for the Denver Nuggets, it's basically him and Joker on the court for 40 minutes a game. Murray was also 4th in points.
7:18 you ask who is the best assister ever, toss a coin up between John Stockton and Magic Johnson. Personally I think Stock had a slight edge on Magic fundamentally but Magic had well, magic. Both are guys that are top tier fun players to watch.
As far as stopping Jokic, no Idea, If the 30 greatest basketball minds and 500 best players can't figure it out, I got nothing. But I also live in Denver and would really like for this to keep rolling as well.
Magic Johnson is my pick for the greatest passer of all time and he was Larry Bird's rival you guys should check him out
Magic was awesome.
Same
Ide say Magic and Bron are the top 2. Jokic is making a solid claim for 3-5. He is 1000% the best passing 4/5 tho
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best NBA documentary ever.
As a fellow Brit who enjoys most North American sport(NFL,NBA,NHL and MLB anyway) Its great seeing other Brits get involved and wanting to learn about these sports, I chose the Denver Broncos as my NFL team in the late 80s(when I was about 4) as I loved the powder blue helmets and orange jerseys lol. But because of that I now follow all the Colorado Teams, Nuggets included. To get on to the topic of Joker there were stats popping up through out the play offs about where he ranked in terms of other "great" players. And one thing that was never taken into account was the number of games he played. The Nuggets only lost 5 games all post season....so they played 21 games and he was being compared to players who had played 25+. As with the stats in your video, people were saying that Jimmy Butler was only 3 points behind Joker so it wasn't that impressive.....But Jimmy played 1 more game than Nikola and still couldnt outscore him. Thats why I think his post season run this year is one of the best in NBA history and he really showed MVP level talent and I hope it washes off all the crap he got the last two years for winning it.
JASON WILLIAMS "WHITE CHOCOLATE" REACTION PLEASE !!!!!! AMAZING PASSER, MAYBE BEST OF ALL TIME
John Stockton has the most assists overall in NBA history. But if you want the flashiest passer, look no further than Jason "White Chocolate" Williams.
Thanks for the info, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Appreciate the comment! Have got white chocolate on our list too
He is already the best passing center of all time so he doesn’t really even have competition to reach outside of the all time assist record which is held by John Stockton with 15,800 assists.
Thanks for the info, that is a crazy high number of assists! Wow. Appreciate the comment.
John Stockton was an assist machine.
btw, the guy at #2 on the assists list of the playoffs this season, that jokić is 60 assists ahead of, is his teammate jamal murray, fun fact. so jokić is probably finishing a bunch of those 122 assists of the #2 passer too, along with his own 180 assists.
John Stockton has the most assists in NBA history. His record is so insane that no one currently playing in the NBA even has a chance to break it because he's so far ahead on the leader board
But was he the best?
@@CavemanSynthesizerYes. Most definitely
@@CavemanSynthesizer what kinda crazy question is that? Obviously 15k assists is the best and #2 is still 2k behind
@@cheeseoh He's probably only asking that to downplay him because he played with Karl Malone and the Jazz's pick-n-roll offense, but go look up videos of Stockton's passing ability and be amazed.
@@duchaneaux I like my point guard to be able to dribble with their off-hand. Jazz score keepers juiced his assist numbers (check the home and away disparity). Combine that with being lucky with longevity and playing with a dominant forward also lucky with longevity, and Stockton’s not near what the numbers suggest
Magic Johnson is probably the benchmark as a passer. But Jokic’s size makes it a real argument.
Love watching you guys learn the game. Earned a sub. More Jokic content!
Thank you so much for the sub, really appreciate the support 🤝 Definitely will be more Jokic on the channel in future
the best passer all time is proabably Magic Johnson, however, John Stockton has the all time record by a long shot. the closest player still playing is Chris Paul who is 4000 assists behind stockton's record. he's also the all time steals leader by nearly 1000 ahead of chris paul. i suggest watching a video of people talking about john stockton and how underrated he is. had he not had to face michael jordan in the finals him and karl malone would have at least 2 championships
Went to the parade in Denver. This city needed it! Should have been league MVP. Best player on Earth.
Simply put, Jokic is the best "decision maker" ever. People look at flashy play makers, but what separates Jokic is that he almost always makes the best play for th situation. It sounds simple, but paired with his ability it makes him one of the best players ever. I'll say it now, he's one of the best 5 players in NBA history, if you go by peaks. If he plays similar to this he has a very very legit shot at ending up on the Mount Rushmore.
Simply put, there has never been a player who makes plays, shoots as well from deep, rebounds, and can score from everywhere on the court as well as he can. He is an absolute unicorn.
JxmyHighroller is the best NBA UA-camr out there by a large margin because he’s great for experienced or new basketball fans
Thanks for this comment, appreciate it! We enjoyed this one a lot. Loved the creator 🙏
LEBRONS GREATEST ASSISTS VIDEO IS INSANE, also steve nash and jason kidd.
I've never played sports, but I've watched NBA games and it seems to me that NBA basketball has turned into a run-jump-dunk! Jokić brought the GAME back to the NBA because many forgot that it is a team game, that you are not alone on the court and that you should not neglect joint success. As far as I'm concerned, Jokic is the real game manager of the team
Jokic's passing reminds me a lot of Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.
Nah he’s more Alvin Adams/ Sabonis/bill Walton
@@TheIcemanthomas he's a way better passer than all of them
@@TheIcemanthomas *Alvan* , not Alvin Adams.
Im so glad your doing a basketball video. It's great
Yeah we really enjoyed this one!
at his position he’s without a doubt not only the best playmaker but passer and ball handler by far
Kyrie Irving is the best ball handler in the nba
What a great video from you guys. When Jokic came into the NBA we all knew he was good, but nobody sad his brilliance and intelligence transforming himself into this basketball prodigy. I am sure that NBA coaches are hard at work trying to devise a defense that slows him down. Very few players dominate the game with impunity without someone finding something that is effecting at neutralizing them. Jokic has great vision, great skill and most of all great intelligence and aptitude for the game of basketball. He'd be a great coach someday. I hate that he destroyed my Lakers, but you gotta admit that he is arguably the best player in the world right now. ♣
Well he was a 2nd round pick, sooo hardly anybody thought he was good. Hardly anybody even knew his name lol.
You should check out Magic Johnson and the Show Time Lakers of the 80s for an assist magician. Great reaction as always guys.
When I read you people and your suggestions to process Mchael Jordan and Lebron James in the same way and see how Jokic is big.
Thanks Tim, we really appreciate it 🤝 We will definitely be getting to Magic Johnson. Lots of mentions for him in the comments
Great reaction, Gents. The bench mark for assists would be John Stockton. The all-time leader in assists.
I know you've said you're gonna get to Dwayne Wade. He's a must watch.
Thanks for the info Dennis, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Appreciate the comment and support. We have got him on the list, we’ll keep chucking out lots and lots of Discord polls
Just a terminology tip. People don't really use the term assisting or assister. Even though the stat is termed assists, people always say passing or passer. Of course, people will still know what you mean so not the biggest deal but it would make you sound more natural.
at least they weren't using the term "tosser".
Ah okay cool, thanks for the info, appreciate it 🙏
Typically the point guard position runs the offense and gets the assists. You often hear point guard in basketball and quarterbacks in football get compared to each other for having that decision making role that distributes the ball to their open teammates. Most will say Magic Johnson is the greatest passer ever, and there are tons of point guards that are considered amazing passers, but every once in a while you get a rare player like LeBron or Jokic that can basically take over the point guard role and quarterbacks the offense from a different position. LeBron is the greatest small forward / power forward passer, and Jokic is the greatest Center passer. LeBron is #4 in all time assists so he’s right up there with the greatest point guards of all time. Jokic is still young in his career, but if he can keep this pace, he’s well on his way up there too. He’s certainly the most talented passer from the center position that I’ve ever seen, and I think that’s why the NBA is struggling so much to guard him. They’ve never seen this before. He’s so unique.
John Stockton perfected the pick and roll with Karl Malone in Utah, Magic made the passes that Jokic is doing from players cutting towards the rim.
Having lived in Denver, CO all my life to this point we never felt the Nuggets would win a championship (47 years in the makjng) until Jokic! He is an all around great player!
He's an incredible talent, but with comparing his scoring to other players, I do want to add the caveat that this season was ridiculous with how much more scoring there was in general. Scoring 40 or 50 points in a game used to be an incredible accomplishment, but this year it lost some of its luster. And with the increased scoring also comes increased assists.
They used Shaq's 1999-2000 playoffs as a comparison.
In the 99-00 season, the average points per game for a team was 97.5.
This season it was 114.7.
You gentlemen seem to have a very open mind. An unquenchable curiosity is a great way to gain knowledge. good on you!
Offensive juggernaut is a great description of joker lol.
LeBron for sure he’s an amazing playmaker and passer as well, the best I’ve seen. I recommend reacting to his greatest assist ever.
But hes a nonstop crybaby
@@kennethward4985 Drop it oldhead
@@kennethward4985 You guys say bs like this when everyone complains to refs, literally everyone. I saw the GOAt imo MJ literally complain to a ref and got him to reverse a call but since you dislike LeBron he's the only one highlighted
@@rfmmike6096 lebron does it on every play, still crybabying at age 38, his legacy is ruined.
SHAQ! Gotta watch him.
He was living on an army base in Germany as a teenager. He walked up to a Dale Brown, the LSU basketball coach visiting the base. Shaq asks if he could get tapes of players using footwork. Brown asks Shaq, "What's your rank soldier?" Shaq replies "No rank, I'm 13 sir."
Shaq was sent video tapes every week.
thanks bro for the video, nice video, honest... may he continue to play for a few more years Nikola... I love watching him play, king...
Magic I think is the most common name brought up for best passers. Stockton is also mentioned a lot, for good reason. I’m on the slightly younger side so I didn’t watch either of them. I started really watching in 2006 and the best passer I’ve ever seen is Steve Nash. Please watch him. Another commenter mentioned the gravity thing with him. It was also mentioned in this jokic video. And I know you’ve watched Steph curry videos. It’s similar, though it not quite as pronounced as it is with Steph. Lebron, rajon rondo, Luka, harden, Chris Paul, Jason Williams, John wall. All of them are also good. Nash is the best though
Remember this was a guy drafted 41st overall in the second round back in 2014 during a Taco Bell Commericial. Not like he cared back in Serbia apparently because he just went back to sleep after 😂
Seriously the man is like one of those players you could only see in a video game. Traditionally, his position is to dominate the paint but he plays as a Point Guard stuck in a Center's body and he does well for both positions
You guys should react to
The Top 100 Plays of the 2022-23 NBA Season 🔥
Best part about assists stat is that 2nd place is Jokic's teammate Jamal Murray, 304 assists for two of them in 20 games
Definitely give the thinking basketball channel a look. He has a few Jokic vids that show very in depth him and how he stacks up historically.
Thanks Felix, will add them to our list, also, videos in the suggestions channels on Discord are really helpful too if you’re not already on there with us! 🙏
John Stockton is the all time assists leader, Magic Johnson I would say had one of the greatest peaks as an assist artist, but he only played 13 seasons as opposed to Stockton's 19 hence why he's lower down on the all time assists leaderboard. Other honorable mentions are Jason Kidd and Chris Paul, possibly Steve Nash and LeBron as well. Jokic's career is still young but at the rate he's going he could definitely be in the conversation when all is said and done. He is; however, the greatest passing big man we've seen so far.
The benchmarks for assits are Magic Johnson, John Stockton and Mark Jackson
In terms of assisting at the Center position, Jokic can only be compared to Arvydas Sabonis, who was widely considered to be the best passing big man the league had seen. However Sabonis was not the player (or passer) Jokic is, more apt comparison would be point guards like Steve Nash, John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson, and Magic. In terms of assists there's a lot of different ways to find teammates and orchestrate the offense, Jokic behaves like a "floor general" point but those types of point guards historically don't tend to score as much as Jokic. In terms of being a 1-man offense where your teammates are an extension of your scoring, it's really Jokic, James, and Magic, and maybe Grant Hill that come to mind. Oscar Robinson as well but that was a very different game. Jokic's combined talents are singular. He's got the vision of Magic or James, the strength to make outlet passes like Kevin Love, the deftness to put the pass exactly where it needs to be like Chris Paul, and a little bit of sauce like White Chocolate. His kind has never been seen before.
As passers go. Magic Johnson and Nikola Jokić
Top assist guys I'd say are Magic, John Stockton, Oscar Roberton, Isiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, and Chris Paul imo. Jokic probably the best Big Man passer of all time though. Some great flashy passers include Bob Cousy, Pistol Pete, Jason Williams, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Rojon Rondo, Manu Ginobli. Other great passing bigger guys include Lebron James, Joakim Noah, Arvydas Sabonas, Bill Walton, and Wilt Chamberlain, Lebron being a hybrid wing/big unicorn
If we are talking about assists, you really can't go wrong with white chocolate (Jason Williams)
Thank you for the comment and the suggestion, really appreciate this, will check he’s on the watch list. We run regular polls on our Discord for all members to have a say in what videos we do next if you’re not already on there 🙏
Magic Johnson is the bench mark for assist. He was a Point Guard though.
Jokic is anime protagonist.
Not only he is great on his own, but has power of friendship/team on his side.
For some context on the assists, number 2 was jamal murray, jokic's teammate and the 2nd best player on the nuggets
Appreciate that context, thank you
john stocktons assist record will never be broken
Poor guy just won the title and can’t stop talking about going back home to Serbia ASAP! 😂 Can’t say I blame him, I would be ready to go home too!
Serbia will have to wait after the hangover from the team partying it up in Vegas. Bruce Brown dropped a vid blaming #15 for the reason he's had a rough morning.
Also for assists, check out john Stockton, magic, and Jason Williams
Staying home on all Nuggets players except Jokic, using a good and strong post defender, with a long athletic help defender on him (usually helping off Aaron Gordon) is probably the best way to defend Jokic, but even then it only works so well.
I don't know if anyone else has said him yet but jason Williams is my personal favorite passing players
This guy is just next level!!
Wilt Chamberlain is, hands down, the greatest offensive player ever. That shouldn't even be debatable when you see his stats. .o
From a pure entertainment perspective, check out Jason Williams (aka White Chocolate). Lots of flash and razzle dazzle.
if you really want to learn more about basketball, i'd suggest a channel called "thinking basketball". They do a very good breakdown of plays/concepts and in general really great at explaining various basketball concepts
Based on what I'm seeing, Jokic plays smart and without ego, and that makes him all around brilliant. If I was going to get into watching basketball the way I do with hockey, it would be thanks to him.
I would love to see you do a video on Kawhi Leonard's 2019 championship run, as seen Ithis video, one of the greatest ever, or just on him in general, one of the best, if not the best player in the NBA, just been injured
Offensive juggernaut ! I love that 🤩
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Y’all should watch Thinking Basketball if you want to really get into the weeds of how basketball is played within the minutiae of each player. Does great breakdowns of players strengths and weakness and overal team game planning. Also was one of the real first guys to call Jokic as one of the best offensive weapons the NBA has ever seen - BEFORE he won his first league MVP.
Stockton, Kidd, Magic are all good answers but no one has mentioned Pistol Pete Maravich yet. He was the original GOAT of passing.
Greetings from Denver Colorado. We all love the Nuggets ❤
Greetings Bradley, thanks for the comment 🙏
Great content guys, keep up!
Thank you, really appreciate the comment 🤝
to answer your question @ 7:15 hes the best passing big man ever ..unless you count Magic who is 6'9" but was listed as a PG. overall Id say hes top 10 probably top 5..Magic, Jason
Williams, Kidd maybe Nash ahead of him
If you guys haven't done a video on Jason Williams, that would be great! Not the best player, but has some amazing highlights
Jokic definitely is the best passing big man the league has ever seen. I’m not sure if he’s quite the best passer the league has ever seen. I think Magic Johnson probably has to be number one.
John Stockton is the assist leader of all time and a great passer, but Magic Johnson is the best at consistently making flashy passes that you don't see coming . Jokic is already the best passing big man of all time, he has the potential to be the best passer of all time in my opinion
Magic Johnson, john stockton, lebron james are considered the golden standard in assists.
Check out the Nuggets championship parade or there championship celebration!
Jokic is right up there already with the best passers of all time. Easily the best big man passer ever.
It’s hard to say best ever yet. As far as most assists ever it’s John Stockton by a mile. Magic Johnson made assisting an art. LeBron is a fantastic passer, right up there with all of them.
For playmaking/“assisting,” gotta check out Jason Kidd and Steve Nash. Ramon Rondo is fun too, but none of them broke 6’5. Jokic is in a league of his own for players not in the guard spot, even compared to guys like LeBron who are incredible (but overrated imo) passers.
There’s an NBA video of the best 60 assists of the decade or something, worth a watch!
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One thing I want to mention is Jokics passing. Obv, its impressive but historically, Centers have been the worst passers on the court. In previous years, if a center got 4 or 5 assists they had a nice night. This is why Jokic is already considered the greatest passing big man ever. He's revolutonizing the position!
He definitely isn't the first great "big man" passer. Walton, Arvydas Sabonis, and Draymond Green have already had a headstart just to name a few. What makes Jokic better than these guys though is how he's the main hub for their offense whether it ends up an assist to a teammate or points for himself. The others mentioned are usually not the main scoring options despite being a primary or secondary playmaker
John Stockton is the all time assists leader. He cared more about finding the open player who can make the easiest basket then just scoring himself. If you want to see the craziest passer in NBA history, check out Jason Williams
I'll say it again...if you want to watch entertaining assists you need to watch Jason Williams. One of Shaq's favotire team mates and definitely fun.
I don't think there's any way to completely stop Jokic. Your best bet is to make him have to score ALL the points. Don't let his teammates get warmed up or engaged in the game. Combine that with attacking him when he's on defense and hopefully he just gets tired lol.
You guys need to do highlights of Michael Jordan and Larry Bird. You want to talk about unguardable....those 2 are some of the most dangerous
My favorite passers all time are
Stockton
Magic
Kidd
Nash
Jokic is a cheat code, everyone was taking shots at his defense but not because it was bad, but only because his offense was so good people made that narrative, people Jokic guarded these playoffs had horrendous fg%, it's just unfair in a way. Also this is what you get when you build a home grown base team, Murray, Joker and MPJ all drafted by Denver, and then Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray has this insane chemistry with Jokic, it's like three of them are connected in some weird paranormal way where they always know what is the next thing each of them are gonna do before they do it. If you move Joker now to some other team, I don't think he'd be THIS good but this is what happens when you are patient and let the guys build themselves up together over the years. As someone who played pro sports, it is INCREDIBLY hard to beat a team that is gonna punish you for every little mistake you make and even harder when that other team almost never make mistakes, it's like a grinding machine, incredible.
Jokic can do everything in the game except for run and jump. And he doesn't need to do those things.
You grab a step ladder and take out his knee caps before the game
Can’t really some one is the best ever until their career is over. Right now. Stockton might be the best passer rn
I would love to see you two react to some Paul George Indiana pacer highlights👌
Getting a lot of assists is different than just having that natural talent for passing, although obviously the most naturally talented passers will generally get a lot of assists. LeBron James is revered as one of the great passers in league history, but he only averages a little over 7 assists per game for his career. Now, that's still a lot of assists relatively speaking, it's the 24th highest career assist average all time, but the majority of people put LeBron as one of the 10, maybe one of the 5 greatest passers ever because of the many different types of passes he's able to make out of any kind of situation imaginable. Some players just have those gifts, and Nikola Jokic is one of those players.
I think when it comes to assisting I think it was ginobili. He was huge about that but he would also take a shots. To be fair I also think Nicola does well in our current game. Because there's a lot less actual big men. I would like to have seen him go up against Tim Duncan or Shaq. But everybody wants to shoot the ball and be the big score.
Nobody has figured out a “solution” to Jokic. I think the best strategy I’ve seen is to guard him with a big, strong, athletic 4 who that’s they’re whole job and have the center soft doubling, lurking to block shots but also guarding the corner or dunker spot. The Lakers did this with Hachimura on Jokic and Anthony Davis roaming. They still got swept lol. If you hard double, he will pick you apart and if you don’t double at all, he dog walks you to the hoop. That’s why he’s the best player in the league. He has the most avenues to impacting the game and nobody has figured anything out to do with him. Most teams don’t even have the personnel to attempt what I think is the best idea with the big 4 guarding him.
How to stop him? Better question is how to stop the Nuggets WITH him. I think the answer starts with length. The length the Nuggets also happen to have, with A-Aron Gordon and Micheal Porter Jr - both 6'10" or better and jumpy. Jokic passes OVER people. Denver has talent and is extremely well coached. Their scheme isn't new or special - their level of execution is, so to stop them one needs to scheme, get buy-in, and practice. A lot. Denver is also a very good defensive squad for the same reasons.
White Chocolate aka Jason Williams is the best passer in NBA history but complete different.
John Stockton is your guy for assists. He holds the all-time career assist record.
No one - full stop - NO ONE will catch him.
He also holds the career record for steals which is also a rather unreachable record.
John Stockton was the THE ideal Point Guard. He’d get 20+ pts, 15 ast, and 5 stl a game. Some of the all time greats agree. He’s the best at playing Point Guard.
Other greats at passing…
Magic Johnson. The greatest show man the NBA has ever had on court. They didn’t make another Magic Johnson and they never will.
Jason Williams. AKA “White Chocolate.” I don’t think I need to say more to peak your interest.
As for stopping Jokic?
You don’t play the game with getting points in mind. You have to full commit to a 2-3 zone or a 1-3-1 zone. The 1-3-1 I think would be the most likely solution. The other thing you need is the NBA’s 1st Team All Pro Defense line up to be able to run a 1-3-1 zone and commit fully to the idea of winning a game 84-83. Running zone in the NBA is for whatever reason not great because it takes 5 guys moving as one fluid cell of players. With one goal and one mind in defense. There is a lot of ego in those locker rooms.
The Spurs of the 2000-2014 era did it well.
On offense you have to not turn the ball over and run the shot clock down all the way before you take a shot each possession possible. Give the Joker less time to joke around on offense.
You’d likely have to run a classic Princeton style pick n’ roll against the nuggets and just wait for the size mismatch to open up.
In this idea there is quality to a missed shot if it’s taken with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock. You need to have the ball a lot more and make the other team feel like they have to play faster. If the other team presses and shots within 20-24 second range and misses and you get the ball back that’s nearly 45-15 out a minute of game play. You can do that all game if the offense is patient and makes the easy shots when the need to.
Again, the Spurs of 2000-2014’s did it well.
Which leads me to my bonus addition to the list if you made it this far. My favorite player of all time.
Tim “The Big Fundamental” Duncan. This guy is the idea of a team player. Only player to record a a QUADRUPLE DOUBLE in the playoffs. A true blessing the basket ball and I’ll Donny Brook with anybody who think otherwise.
The TLDR version is you can’t stop Jokic on the current Nuggs roster. He is the best center I’ve ever seen. He is Tim Duncan on 11.
John Stockton is the all time assist leader. Magic Johnson is the great creator.
When it comes to passing the benchmark is usually either Magic Johnson or John Stockton
Thanks for the info, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Lots of mentions for Magic too. Appreciate the comment!
I had to google this. But i knew it was john stockton with most career assists and he had 15,806. Not sure how update jokic stats are but in google i saw he has 3959 assists
Thanks for the info, seen the numbers for Stockton and they really are insane aren’t they?! Appreciate the comment!
There is a very easy way to stop him and I do not understand why nobody has thought of it. Simply lock him in the locker room before the game!!!
No matter who is named, magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, Steve nash, etc...jokic (as a center) is in a conversation historically dominated by guards
Thanks for this info Marty, we really appreciate it 🤝
Can't back this up with stats but the best passers of all time by my eye include Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Steve Nash, and Jason Kidd. LeBron's also up there. Jokic is well on his way if he keeps this up for a few more years.
the man is stat padding -Kendrick Perkins
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