5 swatching mistakes AND 2 swatching in the round methods
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- If your swatches lie, this is for you. Also stay till the end to see how I swatch in the round without having to make an annoying tiny tube! And if you want even more content about swatching go check this one out: • Why swatching is even ...
0:00 Intro
0:48 The size
4:10 The needles
5:03 Borders
7:04 Flat vs In-the-round
9:41 Washing
11:36 1st way of swatching in the round
16:41 2nd way of swatching in the round
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Did you know about these 2 methods for swatching in the round? Let me know in the comments. Also check out this video about why swatching is about more than just gauge: ua-cam.com/video/PPaqvz8Jz1g/v-deo.htmlsi=HxIya_LVPqoBo4pn
I did know about the first one. I will make my swatches bigger. This was helpful. Thanks!
Yes, I've been using the second method after not being a fan of the first. I've got another way the swatch might lie: I started my first-ever sweater this month and it said it was knit in the round - so I swatched in the round. I didn't realize that the first part of the sweater was knit flat. I think my gauge was tighter knit flat. I also noticed that my gauge changed some as my sweater grew in the round because the weight of the fabric was pulling it and my stitches started to get looser. I didn't think about that when I was knitting my fake-round swatch. But my sweater fit and I love it. Thanks to all of the UA-cam knitters who provided all of this fantastic gauge swatching info who set me on the right path before I started my swatching! Y'all are doing so much good and helping us all out.
When knitting a swatch in the round, if I have enough extra yarn, I often start a basic edge-to-crown hat (such as the Tin Can Knits Barley hat or any basic design that is the same gauge) and knit until the hat is deep enough to start the crown decrease.
With silky/not “toothy” yarn fibers that tend to create fabrics that grow in length from gravity, I not only knit, soak, and block my swatch, but once, dry, I’ll also hang the dry swatch up to see the effect of gravity. I’ve even attached clips to bottom swatch edge to mimic the extra weight of a larger piece of knitted fabric.
I love that you commit to go the extra mile.
I recently "discovered" the 2nd way you knitted the knit-only swatch. I had never seen it done before and I was so pleased with myself 😄so I loved seeing you demonstrating it and remembering how deep the knowledge and tradition of knitting goes. And I'm one of the weirdos that actually loves to swatch. When I get new yarn it's like a meet and greet, getting to know the yarn before diving into all of the decision making and figuring out needed to start a big project. I hope others can find joy in swatching, too!Thanks Claudia.
Yes, making a swatch also fills my need for a new project even if I'm not ready to cast it on just yet.
The second way is gamechanging! Thank you so much!
And the nailpolish matching the yarn 👌🏼
It's much less yarn to manage. And yes matching my nails to my knits is a fun extra
THANK YOU For the 2nd method of swatching in the round. I always swatch (and wash/block), sometimes with 2 or 3 sizes of needles, and have noticed some differences with finished item even though I'm a fairly even & consistent knitter. I'm totally guilty of the garter stitch borders on my SS swatches, geez! Because that's how my favorite yarn store does it! I love learning new things!
For a yarn store swatch that is meant to show how the yarn looks, a garter border makes it prettier but for a measuring swatch, it's not the best.
Magníficos consejos y Magnífico tutorial de cómo realizarlo! 😍😍😍😍😍
Muchas gracias por compartirlo Clo 💯😍❤️😘👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Conocía ambos métodos de hacer muestra en circular, pero me ha servido de recordatorio el segundo método que no suelo utilizar.
Thanks. I will give your second method of swatching in the round. I hate the first method and no longer use it. Generally I prefer to just knit much of the yoke, wet block it, and get an accurate gauge because I'm so tired of my swatch lying. It's not possible to mimic the weight of a full sweater with a swatch. So my actual gauge ends up being MUCH looser than my swatch gauge and I end up with sweaters/tees that are too large.
Oh yeah ... I've definitely experienced all of those swatch lies!! It's nice that someone could put into words what I discovered. Now ... those swatching in the round tricks are cool!!! I've always wondered about flat swatches for 'in the round' projects. This helps a whole lot!! I've also wondered about swatching for lace & other patterned projects. Since I didn't know if doing a stockinette swatch would help, I skipped it and just started my lace projects. It never occurred to me to swatch IN PATTERN. Duh!!! Thank you for teaching me a couple of new tricks!!
I feel like it's the job of the designer to mention which stitch to swatch in. But yes, in pattern is the most helpful one.
Yes, please make a video about rowing out! I’m getting better at even tension but that is a big issue I have in my knitting lol
Coming up today!
Excellent video, I’ve never seen the second method, so I’ll try that. One thing that you didn’t mention and I feel is important is that after you wash your swatch is not to pin it to the gauge of the pattern but to just lay it flat and dry naturally so that it dries to the actual finished size and therefore you aren’t manipulating the gauge
You are absolutely right. Wash and block as you will do with the finished item. If you are going to pin it to stretch it, then the swatch has to go through the same thing. But for most sweaters it just lays flat to dry
The Second method of in the round is ingenious! Never heard of it. I’m going to try that. Let me just say you forgot the basic mistake #1 of doing a gauge swatch and that is: NOT swatching at all! Ha! Love this video! Thank you!
That is most definitely the most common mistake
It helps a knitter to be patient & make a big enough swatch for accurate information if they see it as a patch that can be used in patchwork item later.
Absolutely. The swatch is an item, it's part of the knitting journey!
No more purl clumping now that I've learned to knit back backwards. It feels a little clumsy at first, but then you get used to it and back and forth stocking stitch looks great!
Great video!
I have to check if my backwards knit is the same tension as my regular knit, i'm curious now!
I’m getting ready to knit a seamless sweater, I think I’ll just swatch in the round. I have plenty of both yarn and time.
You are such a wealth of knowledge! I find your topics so helpful and I learn so much, thank you!
That's so nice of you to take the time to comment this. Thank you.
Thank you and your tips are right I've discovered over time, I'm a irregular knitter so swatching bigger is important for me!
For swatches, bigger is better!
This was so helpful, many thanks! I picked the second method, which worked great and I'm now going to knit the Warm Up Sweater with the help of your tutorial! :)
Yay! I'm so glad to hear it. Don't hesitate to ask questions if you need any help.
I did the warm up without swatching and regretted it. I will be frogging it, making a swatch, and re-doing it. It was a fun pattern and her tutorial is excellent!
I hadn't seen the second method - very interesting. Mostly though, I knit flat (and seam) but it's really good to know these methods of swatching in the round.
However, I had been wondering about variations between different needles etc, so I'm glad you mentioned that.
Mostly when I knit sweaters I knit a classic, basic, flat and seamed pattern so I have a lot of flexibility in designing, or working it out, and so ALWAYS swatch so I can 'design' and work out my garment size. There's ALWAYS minor (and sometimes not so minor) variations between my swatches and my final garment size, grrrr!! So this was good to watch - thank you.
I love love love your colour co-ordination between your sweater, your swatch and your nail colour haha!! Very pleasing visually 😄
Cheers, Jen x
I also noticed my nails as I started swatching. It wasn't planned but so nice!
That's a beautiful sweater you're wearing the a beautiful yarn! I couldn't stop looking at it and how it suits you! 😍
I am guilty of all the reasons why my swatches lie to me sometimes and I am aware of it. I'll need to try the second method you showed, it looks very interesting. Thank you!
As long as you know what the problem is, you get to decide wether it bothers you or not 😉. The sweater is the Primaire Pullover by Camille Descôteaux and it will be available on Ravelry tomorrow. The yarn is Bon Tricot Jolly DK in Miami Pink.
Thank you, those swatching in the round tricks are just what I needed!
I'm glad it was helpful!
@@cloknits I also love the sweater you're wearing. Is it your own pattern or from someone else's? It's the perfect simple saddle shoulder crew neck I want to knit next. I didn't see it on your ravelry page.
@@TootightLautrec I just added it. It's the Primaire Pullover by Camille Descôteaux.
@@CloTricots Thank you!
Never seen the second method of swatching, thanks for sharing! I usually don’t swatch 😅but after this I think I will give it another try.
I only swatch for sweaters of projets where I need info from the yarn. I don't swatch for hats, mittens, socks, shawls...
Just a wonderful watch. Thank you so much for the practical info. As you spoke, I was nodding with a realisation of truth of everything that you said. Thanks again
Just brilliant information 😁
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yes to this episode! Yes to washing/blocking the swatch!! Yarns bloom or have oil/grease from spinning at the mill & washing will show the true yarn & how it behaves. Ask me how I know!! My early/beginner knitting journey (without benefit of internet)…
I appreciate that you are helping knitters learn!
Haven’t tried the 2nd option, saw Laura Nelkin do this… game changer & easier (I think so, anyway)!!
Oil and grease is also why I love to wash in hot water.
Hallelujah ❤ I hated making stockinette in the round, so I did not. I will be trying both methods.
Wonderful!
Great techniques for swatching in the round. I've always avoided swatching especially since I knit in the round most of the time but from now on I'll try one of your two methods. I think I'll probably prefer the first one. Thanks for this helpful video.
Thank you for leaving a comment ❤️
Awesome teaching! I have only used the first method to swatch in the round. Will definitely try the second method next time.
Wonderful!
I’m about to make my first swatch later tonight and what you’re saying about the garter stitch makes so much sense!! Now I know!!
The goal is not a pretty swatch but an accurate one!
@@cloknitsand thank you again for showing that second way to swatch in the round - so clever and I love how it’s way less messy!
These are so helpful. Thank you. I have tried the second round swatch but got it horribly wrong. Your explanation is perfect thank you. I’ll use this method in future
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Egad! I may as well use my whole pullover as a swatch if I want to wait till my knitting relaxes!
Haha that would be an extreme case.
Your knitting is beautiful. I would luv to have you do tutorial on tension if you don't mind.
Thank you so much, i do have a video on tension already right here: ua-cam.com/video/fOziIfeXhhs/v-deo.htmlsi=h3ImCxWRA3drBsYh
Merci! Had not seen the second method! I will check that. You also gave me good advice for my Alpine Bloom colour work….. I am cutting off sections of my variegated CC… working a charm 😊
Great! Sometimes that's what it takes.
Thanks for a really useful video, it makes perfect sense and is nicely timed for me! I'm going to try your second option tomorrow, I'm intrigued by it
I'm glad you liked it!
Ove never seen the 2nd method. Very interesting. Thanks.
You're welcome!
Merci Clo pour les conseils! J’ai découvert la deuxième méthode pour l’échantillon.
Avec plaisir 🙂
Great video!! I'm gonna try using the second method, because I've tried the first one and the strands in the back bothered me hahaha Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Please make learning videos. Always love to learn and not the hard way. Thank you.❤
By learning videos do you mean tutorials? I plan on it!
Thanks for another informative watch.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
The other issue is that many sweaters are knit flat for the upper chest area or shoulders like tank tops for example. This area to me is more critical size wise so I would just do a regular knit/purl swatch for that garment.
Thank you for offering some solutions to this problem. My swatches almost always lie and am so fed up I rarely swatch anymore, instead just ripping out the project and starting over if my gage is off.
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You are right, some top construction use a lot of flat knitting. Analyzing the pattern before swatching is also always a good idea.
Thank you for this helpful vlog
Glad it was helpful!
This was great. I have never used this method. For fair isle I knitted from right to left only, cutting each plain knit row and then starting again with a new strand. Very wasteful as these yarns cannot be reused. I am guilty of framing my work in garter on all 4 sides! I will only add that I always did yarn overs to knit into the swatch the mm needle size, which I find very useful as pinning a piece of paper indicating needle size doesn’t work in the long run.
I hope you try the fake "in the round" method! Thank you for leaving a comment.
Je ne connaissais pas cette deuxième méthode d'échantillon en circulaire, j'avais découvert la première sur ta chaîne francophone mais ça me barbe un peu (et ça m'ennuyait un peu de laisser autant de laine inutilisée). Je ferai la deuxième méthode la prochaine fois, merci ! 😊
Pour moi aussi c'est une découverte assez récente.
Thanks for this video. I quite like the idea of measuring before and after washing and blocking, because when I try my garnment as I knit it I can take into account How it will be after washing and blocking. My problem is I am a XL size and the swatch doesn't take into account the weight of the garnement when finished, so sometimes the lenght is quite wrong. I think I will have to get used to do some intermediate blocking before I complete the garnment, especially for the lenght of the sleeves.
I'd love a video on rowing out, I noticed my tension si very different on my knits and purls, I'd love to correct that.
Yes I see more and more people do intermediate blocking to check fit. It takes much less time if you do it by steam blocking as well. You don't have to wait days for it to dry!
Very good information!
Glad it was helpful!
Okay, I’m a lot older than you. Over 70. I hate putting that border on my swatches, but my knitting books SAY TO DO THAT, because just stockinette will not lie flat. So I have always done it, hating it all the time. I do not do it because it looks better, I do it because that’s how I was taught to do it.
Thank you for this very informative video! I have swatched in the round with the first method, but haven't thought of the second one! Something to try 😊 I'm also glad to see your... hmmm... common sense 😅 I watched a video recently in which the lady said that cheat-swatching in thr round is not precise enough and we should be knitting a really large tube - basically a neckwarmer size to get an accurate measurement. And I get it, the fabric behaves differently, there may be small differences... but hey, we're making a sweater, not a corset! 🙈 No need for absolute perfection! I'm team cheat-swatch 😉
"We're knitting a sweater, not a corset!" I might steal that one, it's so good! 👌🏻
@@cloknits haha I'm glad I said something worth repeating :D
Haha, unless your swatch is so off that you end up with a corset. 😂
@@hanapurgerova6803 😂
I wonder if attaching a note naming yarn, project, needles used, gauge required might save some time on a similar project that wants the same gauge, and will be using the same yarn and needles?
Yes it could, if your tension doesn't vary a lot. Many people change tension with experience so a swatch made a year prior wouldn't not be totally reliable but more info is always better anyway!
@@cloknits I didn't think about how tension could change after time- good catch!
Yes, please to the video preventing “rowing out”.
It's next on my schedule!
Swatching....Ah yes. Once I figured it out fully, I was happy and contented with 'swatching'. Think of an athlete. Never do they hit the field of their sport "cold". Injuries will result. They first need to 'warm-up' their muscles. Therefore...the hands and arms of a knitter. They need a warm-up before the main project is picked back up. More so after an extended time away from said project. I found the solution. A happy medium. The 'swatch' I made for the project I do not make until I have warmed up on just a plain small piece of knitting...just knitting. Then after the project has begun, before I pick up that work I use the 'swatch' I made to warm up on. It goes from a project piece swatch to a warm-up piece. You will be shocked in how tight your stitching starts out and how after just a couple minutes it loosens. Since doing this my projects are to beautiful gauge, every time.
That's such an interesting approach! I love it.
Your sweater is gorgeous. Would you please tell us the pattern and what yarn you used?
Thank you! It's the Primaire Pullover by Camille Descôteaux, it's going to be on Ravelry tomorrow. The yarn is Bon Tricot Happy DK available at Espace Tricot.
What size needles do you use. 4 inch, 5 inch
I like both, I don't really mind.
Oh!! I forgot to mention that I WOULD LIKE to see a video on the Rowing Out. :D
Noted!
Is there anything you can do if you can't get tension? Thank you.
In the sense that you can't get the right gauge for the pattern? Changing your needles is an option, not only the size but sometimes just the material can make a difference. I just posted a video on tension, maybe that could help as well. Ultimately though you have to make sure your yarn is suitable for that gauge, and you should be able to get the right tension even if you have to go up or down a few needle size.
Enjoyed watching your videos, I gave up on tension squares, after I fractured my right wrist my knitting completely changed and the tension never stayed the same, so I found coming down in needle size helped and keeping my fingers crossed.
You could do a hat for a swatch
Yes if you have enough extra yarn, it's a great swatch