Thanks so much for covering Alien: Rogue Incursion early and for all the feedback :) We are so excited to be releasing our game to the players tomorrow!
I was really excited to dive into Rogue Incursion and even pre-ordered it, but the reprojection issue unfortunately makes it unplayable for me and many others. It causes significant discomfort and motion sickness that persists even when trying to push through it. I've ordered a PS5 Pro specifically hoping for better VR performance - is there any chance we could see a patch optimizing the game for the Pro? While I understand the Pro userbase is currently small, addressing these performance issues would not only help current players but could boost future sales as the Pro becomes more widespread and new PSVR iterations release. The core game looks fantastic, and I'd love to be able to fully experience it.
❤ Patch in eyetracked dynamic foveated rendering (DFR) so you can make the game run at 90fps because eyetracked DFR helps let that happen much better then reprojection does on graphics rich games like this. Most modern game engines like Unreal5 or Unity can convert to DFR easy & by default, so if you can, look into it because our Ps5 psvr2 supports it & Alien is using Unreal5 engine. Hope you can let us know if it already has it or will in a few days near launch :)
Survios make sure you add a space walk level or 3, into the game to add needed variety to levels. You can use the new Subside VR game as a guide on how to do a space walk correctly imagine fighting an alien on the outside of the ships hull with Subside mechanics & looks. Even a cool "if the sunrises" you must hide in the shade or the sun will sizzle you to death, mechanic layer on top would be epic. Carpe diem! :)
@@Survios Good luck with the launch, but is a future patch possible where you tone down the encounters? An encounter every 10 seconds feels a bit too much. Why not create more tension by letting the encounters breathe a bit more?
The honesty of these reviews is always so refreshing. Always can expect you to tell it like it is, without a deal or sponsorship blinding your opinion. Respect.
Indeed! Too many UA-camrs can't be trusted (anymore). They just do anything for views and getting free stuff from developers and such. With many, it also feels if they are just playing a small portion of the game, which result in superficial reviews. I like how Bryan sometimes goes into these weird details, which shows he actually plays the game (from a gamer standpoint). And is also not afraid to bring in the negatives. Or actually, a balance of positives and negatives. Many UA-camrs are either too positive about something or too negative, because those are the kind of video-titles that attract viewers.
I hate when devs do infinite respawns whether it’s from alarm or if in a certain area or whatever.. it’s just lame , no one wants non-stop respawning of enemies.. breaks are good , add to tension
Great review as always. Still plenty to play right now, so I don’t mind waiting for a sale. Excited to see how they develop part 2 to improve on this one.
To solve the visual issue, set the console on Game (default). It looks muddy and blurry cause you have your console on Performance setting. For uknown reasons it messes the game up, so make sure to set it to "Game (default)" and you will be blown away! (It looks extremely good!)
This is NOT the issue. I'm familiar with the bug in question and what I'm describing in this review is the the visuals with the Game Settings on Default.
I belive that many of these devs having to build their games with a Quest version in mind, compromises the potential out of all of these games. I still hope we get an Alien Isolation port one day..
@@DevVRAR I just don't see how it doesn't. Sure, you can scale certain things up and down. However, the limits will still be weighed down by the weaker hardware. A game that is native to the stronger platform will simply have less constraints, on a design level.
@@DevVRAR Game design is the heart and soul of any game. VR or not. And game design is completely dependent on the hardware. The Quest's dominance in the VR space is a double edged sword. It would be like if game like TLOU2, GTA6 and Elden Ring had to design their games around the Switch.
Having played AvP on PC back in the day (marine, realistic setting), I'm so glad the aliens and gunplay are more like that '90's masterpiece than the Colonial Marines effort on PS3. Still looking forward to this though, I hope the atmosphere and gameplay will distract me enough from the reprojection and blur. I do feel we should be supporting games with ambition and integrity like this one. But I am hoping there's a graphics patch incoming. Thanks for your honest review, Bryan.
Still a day one one purchase for me. It's Aliens in VR and not bad! I'll just replay if it gets patched for bugs or the pro. Hopefully they take the feedback for Part 2 and make something great.
I cannot deal with reprojection when it's used poorly. GT7 had bad reprojection and it showed. Now the method they use doesn't have that terrible ghosting. Why Aliens isn't using the new reprojection method is ridiculous. Also, it's crazy to me that one dev on subside can run circles around this game technically. Those are the devs who get my money. Not a dev team who clearly didn't want to utilize VR2, PS5, or PS5 Pro. While Aliens looks fun the bad reprojection doesn't sit well with me.
They should give the aliens free roam which means you could enter a room on the first play through and there’s no alien, the second time there is. The game sounds like it’s missing unpredictability. Stick the unpredictability in and we could have a real winner of a VR horror game. Of course the main scenes which always require an alien to carry the cutscene would have to remain unchanged but just give the aliens free roam and the game will change for the better.
Found you from Sacred Symbols, this is a GREAT review! You earned a like and subscribe from me. I love this game, personally I’d give it a 9, but I’m only probably halfway and I am an alien fanatic. I love that everything is stored on your body and feels so interactive. Even clicking around on the pad and controlling the computers like you mentioned. It’s the most in depth/intractable game I’ve ever played.
I am curious, (although I will be buying it anyway) do they not give these games to people to play test then get feedback from them in order to implement changes before release? That way, there is more chance of achieving healthy sales on initial release.
I have a similar worry about suspense overall, but the vibe is clearly more Aliens with an “s” - a good ol’bug hunt rather than a horror thing. And I’m there for that - there’s a part of me stuck in an Isolation locker for the best part of 10 years, and they are never ever coming out. 🥸
No kidding. All the suspense is thrown out the window and suspense is a big part of the Alien franchise. This is just a horde shooter with rear projection
It's not really that much of a true horror game, it's more of action horror game. You're not running away and hiding you blast the alien in the little mouths inside their mouths with big-ass guns. They can still be scary though.. they kill you very fast so you have to shoot them quick and they sometimes can creep on you so you turn around and it's right in your face.
Hm. Was concerned when no response on whether dynamic foveated rendering was included persisted. I was massively disappointed with how metro looked too. There’s really no excuse for psvr2 games not to take advantage of dfr by this point. The actual gameplay, that never looked convincing either. What a shame.
People are saying the blurry look is because the ps5 default performance mode setting is overriding the game so you have to go into game options amd change it.
The biggest gripe I have with the game in previews that I’ve watched seems to be the alien encounters aren’t quite random enough but that can be tweaked easily I think. The countdown shouldn’t be the same every time after a clear. But said timer should change after play throughs. As far as full body IK and weapon sway, these features are both SUPER important to me. It’s hard to keep a weapon completely stable when you’re moving around and I LOVE having a full body like bonelab. I’m so excited to play this game I’d also like to have seen 1 additional pistol that wasn’t a revolver, a flamethrower, and a smart gun as far as weapon variety. Maybe they’ll add that in part 2
Hopefully a day one patch is inbound.. looks line Metro got a patch rust fixed a lot so if this does not get patched on day 1 i guess i will finish Behemoth, then Metro and then this once it gets patched. From AJ’s review it should like they got a lot right but needs some love to make it epic. Great review man! Still a great time for VR!!
Everyone who said "Just port Isolation to VR" are probably looking a bit smug right now. Still, this looks fine (not full price though personally). Hope they patch out the "bleeding" AA and other graphics and performance issues😮💨
I wonder what happened to the sections they said would require some more stealth, like Isolation? I knew they had pivoted away from Isolation toward ALIENS, but I distinctly recall them saying there would be variety. I’ll still get it, but I’m surprised and disappointed to hear it has no periods of quiet or stealth at all. I actually treasure the calmer stretches in these sorts of games. I’m glad to hear that it’s very good, I guess I’ll keep whittling away at my (very great) backlog before nabbing this. Too bad it doesn’t have an option for co-op, either… I could see it’s lesser qualities being brushed aside if I was in there with other players, similar to how FIREWALL ZERO HOUR did it with the players versus bots mode. Huh. Well, thanks for the rundown, Bryan!
@ - According to those who have played the entire game, this is patently untrue. That’s my point - we were specifically told by the devs that whether or not you were quiet or loud would impact the frequency of when and whether the creatures appear. As it turns out you can predict the attacks by how regularly-timed they are, and your behavior makes no difference whatsoever. This is to the point that the there’s no need at all to use the motion-tracker because the appearance is so regular as to be rhythmic.
Damn damn damn!!! Developers, TRUST YOUR AUDIENCE. The reason Alien Isolation was such a great experience was because the game knew how to pace itself properly. It understood and made it quite clear to the player that if you meet one of these Aliens, you’re gonna get killed. So why throw hundreds of these things at us and essentially make it a shooting gallery game? Hopefully, a patch will be released that addresses these issues. tone it down. There should be a push and pull happening here, keeping the player on their toes but not boring them either.
Funny you said that because in Aliens the movie, they are treated like low rate canon fodder that go down with a few shots. Their intelligence is massively underated in the latest movie too. This game is supposed to be more Aliens than Alien, so the shooting gallery makes sense.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I would have preferred more horror over action. Not full stealth like in Isolation, but when you can’t even spend 10 full seconds without an encounter (as reported in this review), that seems a bit too much.
Until they swarm..that's what I was expecting in this game. It should be like music. I heard another reviewer say it's one note all the way through. But they said the story was good. I want a challenge and intensity, on edge stuff. Like maybe traversing high up. And shooting aliens on wires,pipes connecting to your path kinda thing. The frigging Queen alien. Not the young queen version..I want to be like Ripley standing there in a nest. Not sure if the game will be able to be modded on pc?
Thanks for the review - pretty much what I expected. It seems like only a few studios know how to truly maximize the potential of the hardware. The team behind Red Matter comes to mind.
The most important thing is whether a game is what you like and is most suitable for you. For example, many people like No Man Sky very much and it was highly rated. I only played it once and then never played it again...
100%. We all have preferences and that will sway your opinion on a game considerably. I personally love the Alien franchise, smooth framerates, and games with polish. So that swayed me while playing Rogue Incursion
Perfect review... I'll hold on to my money for now though. Lets see if they patch the frequent alien spawn rate. Seriously has took out the tension of surprise and horror. If they do, I'll buy it.
UA-cam definitely knows what I’m on the app for, this being my top suggestion. Little disappointed this is how it turned out, but I usually still love VR even if the game is jank. Guess we’ll see how patches and the sequel go!
Looks like a whole lot of fun! I prefer action over suspense and not knowing what lurks around the corner and when it'll jump out at you. This sounds right up my alley. =) I wonder if they could have a slider to adjust the amount of Xenomorphs you encounter to tone down the action and make it more suspenseful.
It's just ghosting that you see when moving around the environment. Some people see it, some people don't. So if it's not something you notice, be thankful! It's super distracting to me....
Thanks for the review Bryan! Glad it didn't took you as long as Behemoth 😉 I loved RE4 for it's intense action, so this will not disappoint me I guess 😻👍
This is One of the games we need to support, if this fails horrible there won't be another good VR Alien game for a long time. Just enjoy the good things and keep dreaming for better in the future
I think this one is going to sell well by PSVR2 standards. The series is back in fashion, and there are lots of new headset users who'll want to try some blockbuster games this December.
I had a feeling it was going to be disappointing when I saw footage of so many aliens getting destroyed by pistols. All they needed to do was make a game like Isolation in vr.
There's a VR mod for isolation. Also since it's made by another company I don't think they could have copied the mechanics like that. Personally I prefer more action. Could have been cool if they varied it a bit maybe make you play another character that isn't armed.
Would it be fair to say it is like a rail shooter but with more freedom? I was hoping this would have more subtlety to it, be more intense but it looks to be less so.
No I don't think that would be fair. There's enough exploration, puzzle solving, and terminal interactions that keep it from feeling like a wave shooter.
Ah that's a shame. I was hoping they could nail it a bit better than a 7. Hopefully some patches can improve the visual aspects and maybe change the enemy spawns to create more tension. As for the performance, I've heard volumetric fog and lighting (and a lot of stuff that has transparencies) can be pretty hardware intensive in VR. Seems like they're using a lot of that stuff to create their atmosphere, so that could explain the need for reprojection. Does the game use DFR?
Ok, what a letdown. I started on hardest as usual and what a miserable time I’ve had: 1. Aliens keep respawning endlessly sometimes overlapping with scripted spawns, costing valuable ammo and high frustration!, leaving me to hide behind my ally (as he kills them with ridiculously weak shotty) to then just stare as he doesn’t die (yet) and then to following point; 2. Aliens tank and they never felt so tanky in other games! Headshots were always lethal against them and not easy to perform in fast paced moments, but if you were too close they would hurt badly with acid blood. This game doesn’t seem to have that cause you never get a chance to off aliens point blank on insanity. (I should mention I was comparing to last good aliens shooter AVP by REBELLION INTERACTIVE) 3. Shooting is also unsatisfying and aliens don’t react much to being shot. 4. Checkpoints are fucked! Do I really have to carry (this is where I am now) androids head all the way to the shotgun only to die cause I haven’t yet figured how to deal with the swarm only to go back to carrying from where you cut his head off! Like they couldn’t desing better checkpoints like starting you off from the shotty. This was supposed be my jam but as of now has some of the worst game design. Hope part 2 is better and fixes shit. Aliens should go down quick, and player should die almost immediately, aka. Realism mode, that’s what they had to do. Rant over 6/10 so far , there are good things but few
There are so, so many aliens that at some point of the game you will rethink if exploring a room or even use a computer is worth the 6-to-8 enemies (and them more) that will surely appear and make you waste valuable resources. I'm playing on the second-to-hardest difficulty and they can suck out a lot of damage. Been playing since day one and I'm really enjoying the game, but if I'm gonna get swarmed by so many xenomorphs, I may need a Flamer or Smartgun
Darn it ... I had high hopes for this, some of the visuals could be patched in time, but not the AI/Atomosphere, I was really hoping of a fun game to play on my lonley Xmas Hols ... might actatul switch to Metro VR: Awakening, as I want creepy scarry horror (+ a bit of action), will have to think about it on Friday after work.
With all these xeno blood particle effects, you'd expect the environment to be Swiss cheese after shooting one down, unless this game occurs at a time when Y-W already developed spacecraft hulls that can withstand acidic corrosion.
I'm loving it so far, only just started it, but it's quenching my thrust for wanting to be in this world. Hopefully the Dev's continue to tweak it in the future.👍
Its a shame the game isnt a slam dunk but between this review and others its really sounding like I'm going to find it a really cool VR experience (for at least some of it I guess?). I hope Part Two can be an improvement!
I might have missed it in the review, but I had mentioned in the trailer video that it didn't look as dark in some areas like I would have expected. In the game is this aesthetic met properly would you say? Did it feel like you were in an "Aliens" environment? Second question, would you have preferred Alien Isolation over this in VR?
Lets just hope the Alien detector motion sensor becomes more useful in the mythical part2 upcoming pack. ( They updated store info) I am actually excited to think we might get MORE Alien Rogue incursion. its always a good thing to get more of a favored IP we love. * hopes * :) . . THEN we will NEED to use the motion sensors! -_^ Thanks again for the timley review BP, your the best!
Sounds like they need to bring back the AI used on the alien in "Alien isolation" back again..if they do that i will buy it...not before. Thanks for the great review as always😊
Can i ask. Ign said in their review they had an issue with hitting the ps logo button by accident. Did you have that issue at all or is this another case of ign blaming user error on poor controls
In the 10 hours I spent with Rogue Incursion I did that once. But I probably accidentally hit the PlayStation button once every 10 hours I spend in my PSVR2 headset, regardless of the game. It happens but it's very seldom an issue. Meaning if you don't usually do it in other games, you probably won't do it here either
Inverse kinematics is the technical (and probably not-incredibly-accurate) term for having your full body represented in VR rather than just floating hands as most games do it.
@@WithoutParoleIt's not inaccurate. It really is Inverse Kinematics. Forward Kinematics is how most conventional animation is done. This means that you know the position, orientation and velocity of the 'parent' element, and calculate those of each 'child' down the chain. For example, you start with the torso, and by applying the angle and position of the upper arm and lower arm respectively, you calculate where the hands should be. In VR, the only information you have is the position and orientation of the hands (and head), so you have to work *backwards* from there to try and calculate where the arms and torso should be. Hence 'Inverse'.
I guess I'll wait for a sale. Waited for Metro to go on sale and finally picked it up on Monday when it was 20% off. Been playing that recently and loving it. Next I'm waiting for Behemoth sale and finally Aliens. Got so many games on backlog that I need to play through first.
I had no clue the main character was already established. So some of the first encounters with the xeno confused me haha. That's on me though. I should really look in to the extended alien lore more
Dam, I'm was really disappointed with metro awakening, this looks like I'll be disappointed with this too. Surely, both developers could have done so much more with these games and beloved IPs.
@@WithoutParolethere is one game that announced it in a patch but cant remember which one it was. If i remember i will update this post, to help out. :)
Although i would love an official Isolation VR, i do love shooting Aliens. A:CM was disappointing, but still fun, especially multiplayer. But shooting Aliens in VR is my dream come through. Even if the game is mediocre, it is still insta buy once it releases on Quest 3.
I would be less inclined to play an Alien Isolation VR port because I'm a pansy. But something that puts you in that world and gives you the force necessary to defend yourself actually looks like a fun romp to me. I'll put this one on my wishlist and pick it up after I've knocked a couple other VR games off my backlog. I hope there will be some polishing before then.
@twitcherthesingleplayergamecat I honestly couldn't tell you. I got so tired of going through the BS just to get to multiplayer that I lost interest. With Forza, i jumped on, created a Free Candy van and wrecked people out in turns. Nothing like getting cursed out in 30 languages lol
Other UA-camrs noticed that performance mode in Playstation settings made the game look and feel muddy. Switch that off and it looks beautiful. Not sure if this is what plagued Bryan?
Part of why isolation worked so well was that there weren’t endless supplies of weak aliens, it was only a few extremely strong aliens and self defense was a last resort that usually would only temporarily fend off the alien but not kill it. This looks like it totally misses what made isolation work so well.
Thanks so much for covering Alien: Rogue Incursion early and for all the feedback :) We are so excited to be releasing our game to the players tomorrow!
I was really excited to dive into Rogue Incursion and even pre-ordered it, but the reprojection issue unfortunately makes it unplayable for me and many others. It causes significant discomfort and motion sickness that persists even when trying to push through it. I've ordered a PS5 Pro specifically hoping for better VR performance - is there any chance we could see a patch optimizing the game for the Pro? While I understand the Pro userbase is currently small, addressing these performance issues would not only help current players but could boost future sales as the Pro becomes more widespread and new PSVR iterations release. The core game looks fantastic, and I'd love to be able to fully experience it.
@@Not_ImpressedI'd 100% buy a pro if PSVR2 games were routinely getting a patch for it. Defo.
❤ Patch in eyetracked dynamic foveated rendering (DFR) so you can make the game run at 90fps because eyetracked DFR helps let that happen much better then reprojection does on graphics rich games like this. Most modern game engines like Unreal5 or Unity can convert to DFR easy & by default, so if you can, look into it because our Ps5 psvr2 supports it & Alien is using Unreal5 engine. Hope you can let us know if it already has it or will in a few days near launch :)
Survios make sure you add a space walk level or 3, into the game to add needed variety to levels. You can use the new Subside VR game as a guide on how to do a space walk correctly imagine fighting an alien on the outside of the ships hull with Subside mechanics & looks. Even a cool "if the sunrises" you must hide in the shade or the sun will sizzle you to death, mechanic layer on top would be epic.
Carpe diem! :)
@@Survios Good luck with the launch, but is a future patch possible where you tone down the encounters? An encounter every 10 seconds feels a bit too much. Why not create more tension by letting the encounters breathe a bit more?
The honesty of these reviews is always so refreshing. Always can expect you to tell it like it is, without a deal or sponsorship blinding your opinion. Respect.
Indeed! Too many UA-camrs can't be trusted (anymore). They just do anything for views and getting free stuff from developers and such. With many, it also feels if they are just playing a small portion of the game, which result in superficial reviews. I like how Bryan sometimes goes into these weird details, which shows he actually plays the game (from a gamer standpoint).
And is also not afraid to bring in the negatives. Or actually, a balance of positives and negatives. Many UA-camrs are either too positive about something or too negative, because those are the kind of video-titles that attract viewers.
Its hard for them unfortunatly many products are bad so even if they're not sponsored they still need to keep the interest up for making video 🫤
I really hope they patch the non stop Xenos. Always knowing another one is on the way sounds really boring to me. Great review, Brian.
I hate when devs do infinite respawns whether it’s from alarm or if in a certain area or whatever.. it’s just lame , no one wants non-stop respawning of enemies.. breaks are good , add to tension
I couldn’t agree more. Infinite respawns really break immersion for me.
@@nathanielthelin1051 It was an instant "no thanks" for me.
@SLX25 totally with you on this... no element of surprise and pointless having motion tracker. If they fix that I'll be giving them my money.
That's what Dead Space and The Last of Us get right - they leave enough time to breathe and explore, and then they hit you with the good stuff
Great review as always. Still plenty to play right now, so I don’t mind waiting for a sale. Excited to see how they develop part 2 to improve on this one.
Thanks for the honest review as always!!
To solve the visual issue, set the console on Game (default). It looks muddy and blurry cause you have your console on Performance setting. For uknown reasons it messes the game up, so make sure to set it to "Game (default)" and you will be blown away! (It looks extremely good!)
This is NOT the issue. I'm familiar with the bug in question and what I'm describing in this review is the the visuals with the Game Settings on Default.
@@WithoutParole Is this on both the Pro and base PS5?
@@PrenticeSummerscalessomeone didn’t watch the review….🫣
@@PrenticeSummerscales Would like to know that too. Don't actually know of this bug in the first place and what it actually bugs out on.
I belive that many of these devs having to build their games with a Quest version in mind, compromises the potential out of all of these games. I still hope we get an Alien Isolation port one day..
It's such a pity , servios did the same thing with waking dead onslaught. So frustrating.. they have released some really good games in the past .
It doesn't
@@DevVRAR I just don't see how it doesn't. Sure, you can scale certain things up and down. However, the limits will still be weighed down by the weaker hardware. A game that is native to the stronger platform will simply have less constraints, on a design level.
@ VR is not at a point in time where that matters yet, the game’s quality will never be decided by it either
@@DevVRAR Game design is the heart and soul of any game. VR or not. And game design is completely dependent on the hardware. The Quest's dominance in the VR space is a double edged sword. It would be like if game like TLOU2, GTA6 and Elden Ring had to design their games around the Switch.
Having played AvP on PC back in the day (marine, realistic setting), I'm so glad the aliens and gunplay are more like that '90's masterpiece than the Colonial Marines effort on PS3.
Still looking forward to this though, I hope the atmosphere and gameplay will distract me enough from the reprojection and blur.
I do feel we should be supporting games with ambition and integrity like this one. But I am hoping there's a graphics patch incoming.
Thanks for your honest review, Bryan.
Still a day one one purchase for me. It's Aliens in VR and not bad! I'll just replay if it gets patched for bugs or the pro. Hopefully they take the feedback for Part 2 and make something great.
They won't...they made onslaught ffs 😂
This may be the only triple AAA level VR Aliens game we ever get.
Isolation 2 is in development. I'd be honestly surprised if it doesn't get official VR support
@A540678 that would be amazing!
@A540678 the first one didn't have VR support (they started it but abandoned it), so I wouldn't be surprised if they second one doesn't have it.
It is called "Part 1" and I think it will sell quite well.
@@A540678 If this game doesn't sell I guarantee it won't.
Thank you, Bryan! Wait for part 2, wait for a bundle, then wait for that bundle to go on sale. Got it!
I cannot deal with reprojection when it's used poorly. GT7 had bad reprojection and it showed. Now the method they use doesn't have that terrible ghosting. Why Aliens isn't using the new reprojection method is ridiculous. Also, it's crazy to me that one dev on subside can run circles around this game technically. Those are the devs who get my money. Not a dev team who clearly didn't want to utilize VR2, PS5, or PS5 Pro. While Aliens looks fun the bad reprojection doesn't sit well with me.
They should give the aliens free roam which means you could enter a room on the first play through and there’s no alien, the second time there is. The game sounds like it’s missing unpredictability. Stick the unpredictability in and we could have a real winner of a VR horror game. Of course the main scenes which always require an alien to carry the cutscene would have to remain unchanged but just give the aliens free roam and the game will change for the better.
Free range xenos.
😂
Or just stick to action videogame logic so once you clear a room, that's it.
Great review! Ill wait for a sale and hopefully a 90 fps mode!
Found you from Sacred Symbols, this is a GREAT review! You earned a like and subscribe from me. I love this game, personally I’d give it a 9, but I’m only probably halfway and I am an alien fanatic. I love that everything is stored on your body and feels so interactive. Even clicking around on the pad and controlling the computers like you mentioned. It’s the most in depth/intractable game I’ve ever played.
You’re a great honest reviewer and we all appreciate it
I am curious, (although I will be buying it anyway) do they not give these games to people to play test then get feedback from them in order to implement changes before release? That way, there is more chance of achieving healthy sales on initial release.
Non stop xenos sounds awful. Imagine even the scariest game. Now imagine it with non stop enemies. Hurts the horror
I have a similar worry about suspense overall, but the vibe is clearly more Aliens with an “s” - a good ol’bug hunt rather than a horror thing. And I’m there for that - there’s a part of me stuck in an Isolation locker for the best part of 10 years, and they are never ever coming out. 🥸
No kidding. All the suspense is thrown out the window and suspense is a big part of the Alien franchise. This is just a horde shooter with rear projection
Don't play it then, nobody cares.
@@Audfile You sound upset that somebody has a legit point?
It's not really that much of a true horror game, it's more of action horror game. You're not running away and hiding you blast the alien in the little mouths inside their mouths with big-ass guns. They can still be scary though.. they kill you very fast so you have to shoot them quick and they sometimes can creep on you so you turn around and it's right in your face.
Hm. Was concerned when no response on whether dynamic foveated rendering was included persisted. I was massively disappointed with how metro looked too.
There’s really no excuse for psvr2 games not to take advantage of dfr by this point.
The actual gameplay, that never looked convincing either. What a shame.
People are saying the blurry look is because the ps5 default performance mode setting is overriding the game so you have to go into game options amd change it.
Yup, Jammy and I discovered that bug the first day keys went out. This has nothing to do with that
Picked it up. I'll wait a month before playing though. These games need to be supported.
About what I expected. I'll still be picking it up and enjoying the world.
7/10 is actually a pretty decent score and who knows maybe it's a 9/10 for you
@@SC0RPI0NFURY It's exactly what I was looking for. Also, play quietly; and Xenos won't constantly spawn in and attack you.
Why do you put the social screen output text up? Just curious, is there a time your not using that footage?
The biggest gripe I have with the game in previews that I’ve watched seems to be the alien encounters aren’t quite random enough but that can be tweaked easily I think. The countdown shouldn’t be the same every time after a clear. But said timer should change after play throughs.
As far as full body IK and weapon sway, these features are both SUPER important to me. It’s hard to keep a weapon completely stable when you’re moving around and I LOVE having a full body like bonelab. I’m so excited to play this game
I’d also like to have seen 1 additional pistol that wasn’t a revolver, a flamethrower, and a smart gun as far as weapon variety. Maybe they’ll add that in part 2
Ummm I think I'm gonna wait on this one... I dont wanna play it then get a update next day that transforms it.
Same. I got tons of games to play. Waiting for an update. Some things really bother me here
Still bought it. A 7/10 game where I shoot xenomorphs still sounds like a good time lol
I hope it can be improved with updates and part 2
Hopefully a day one patch is inbound.. looks line Metro got a patch rust fixed a lot so if this does not get patched on day 1 i guess i will finish Behemoth, then Metro and then this once it gets patched. From AJ’s review it should like they got a lot right but needs some love to make it epic. Great review man! Still a great time for VR!!
Everyone who said "Just port Isolation to VR" are probably looking a bit smug right now. Still, this looks fine (not full price though personally). Hope they patch out the "bleeding" AA and other graphics and performance issues😮💨
I wonder what happened to the sections they said would require some more stealth, like Isolation? I knew they had pivoted away from Isolation toward ALIENS, but I distinctly recall them saying there would be variety.
I’ll still get it, but I’m surprised and disappointed to hear it has no periods of quiet or stealth at all. I actually treasure the calmer stretches in these sorts of games.
I’m glad to hear that it’s very good, I guess I’ll keep whittling away at my (very great) backlog before nabbing this.
Too bad it doesn’t have an option for co-op, either… I could see it’s lesser qualities being brushed aside if I was in there with other players, similar to how FIREWALL ZERO HOUR did it with the players versus bots mode.
Huh.
Well, thanks for the rundown, Bryan!
The Aliens are dynamic. Play quietly, and they won't spawn in and attack you.
@ - According to those who have played the entire game, this is patently untrue. That’s my point - we were specifically told by the devs that whether or not you were quiet or loud would impact the frequency of when and whether the creatures appear.
As it turns out you can predict the attacks by how regularly-timed they are, and your behavior makes no difference whatsoever. This is to the point that the there’s no need at all to use the motion-tracker because the appearance is so regular as to be rhythmic.
I was about to buy this on Steam then I saw it says It's Part one of two? So we are not getting the full game?
Damn damn damn!!!
Developers, TRUST YOUR AUDIENCE.
The reason Alien Isolation was such a great experience was because the game knew how to pace itself properly. It understood and made it quite clear to the player that if you meet one of these Aliens, you’re gonna get killed. So why throw hundreds of these things at us and essentially make it a shooting gallery game?
Hopefully, a patch will be released that addresses these issues. tone it down. There should be a push and pull happening here, keeping the player on their toes but not boring them either.
Funny you said that because in Aliens the movie, they are treated like low rate canon fodder that go down with a few shots.
Their intelligence is massively underated in the latest movie too.
This game is supposed to be more Aliens than Alien, so the shooting gallery makes sense.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I would have preferred more horror over action. Not full stealth like in Isolation, but when you can’t even spend 10 full seconds without an encounter (as reported in this review), that seems a bit too much.
Until they swarm..that's what I was expecting in this game. It should be like music. I heard another reviewer say it's one note all the way through. But they said the story was good. I want a challenge and intensity, on edge stuff. Like maybe traversing high up. And shooting aliens on wires,pipes connecting to your path kinda thing. The frigging Queen alien. Not the young queen version..I want to be like Ripley standing there in a nest. Not sure if the game will be able to be modded on pc?
Thanks for the review - pretty much what I expected. It seems like only a few studios know how to truly maximize the potential of the hardware. The team behind Red Matter comes to mind.
The most important thing is whether a game is what you like and is most suitable for you. For example, many people like No Man Sky very much and it was highly rated. I only played it once and then never played it again...
100%. We all have preferences and that will sway your opinion on a game considerably. I personally love the Alien franchise, smooth framerates, and games with polish. So that swayed me while playing Rogue Incursion
Ill go for it. Tomorrow will be awesome!❤
disappointing there is no flame thrower as a weapon
Even playing AVP back in the day as a marine you felt at a disadvantage and it was always intense when aliens would attack from the shadows
AVP was an absolute masterpiece. You could take that ancient game, port to vr, and have a huge win.
Perfect review... I'll hold on to my money for now though. Lets see if they patch the frequent alien spawn rate. Seriously has took out the tension of surprise and horror. If they do, I'll buy it.
Cheers WP - sounds like a "wait for a sale" title, unless I get bored between now & the other new releases on the horizon.
UA-cam definitely knows what I’m on the app for, this being my top suggestion. Little disappointed this is how it turned out, but I usually still love VR even if the game is jank. Guess we’ll see how patches and the sequel go!
Looks like a whole lot of fun! I prefer action over suspense and not knowing what lurks around the corner and when it'll jump out at you. This sounds right up my alley. =) I wonder if they could have a slider to adjust the amount of Xenomorphs you encounter to tone down the action and make it more suspenseful.
Oh I thought this was going to be a horror with action. Disappointed to see it’s an action with horror
Play quietly then, and the Xenos won't constantly respawn.
Thanks Bryan! Do you have a video on what reprojection is? I heard it so many times but don’t know what it technically is.
It's just ghosting that you see when moving around the environment. Some people see it, some people don't. So if it's not something you notice, be thankful! It's super distracting to me....
@ ok, maybe I’ve seen it without knowing what it is. Thanks for the explanation!
Thanks for the review Bryan! Glad it didn't took you as long as Behemoth 😉
I loved RE4 for it's intense action, so this will not disappoint me I guess 😻👍
This is One of the games we need to support, if this fails horrible there won't be another good VR Alien game for a long time.
Just enjoy the good things and keep dreaming for better in the future
This is the way I look at it.
I think this one is going to sell well by PSVR2 standards. The series is back in fashion, and there are lots of new headset users who'll want to try some blockbuster games this December.
What a great time to be into VR when the "big 3"(Aliens,Metro,Behemoth) were for me overshadowed by into the radius,Max mustard,Subside.
Think I will wait for a patch with that reprojection and AA issue.
I had a feeling it was going to be disappointing when I saw footage of so many aliens getting destroyed by pistols.
All they needed to do was make a game like Isolation in vr.
There's a VR mod for isolation. Also since it's made by another company I don't think they could have copied the mechanics like that. Personally I prefer more action. Could have been cool if they varied it a bit maybe make you play another character that isn't armed.
@k0lpA yep I actually take my comment back after playing it myself, it's much better than I thought!
Looks pretty good. I'm definitely in...
Hmm AJ says it's a must buy great graphics no murra and everything is interactive 9/10 game. I guess we will either love it or not so much 🙂
Might be a case of one of them's got Alien as their favourite movie, and the other prefers Aliens.
Would it be fair to say it is like a rail shooter but with more freedom? I was hoping this would have more subtlety to it, be more intense but it looks to be less so.
No I don't think that would be fair. There's enough exploration, puzzle solving, and terminal interactions that keep it from feeling like a wave shooter.
@WithoutParole thank you
This looks like purchase at 50% off, if it ever goes that low.
Ah that's a shame. I was hoping they could nail it a bit better than a 7. Hopefully some patches can improve the visual aspects and maybe change the enemy spawns to create more tension.
As for the performance, I've heard volumetric fog and lighting (and a lot of stuff that has transparencies) can be pretty hardware intensive in VR. Seems like they're using a lot of that stuff to create their atmosphere, so that could explain the need for reprojection. Does the game use DFR?
Ok, what a letdown.
I started on hardest as usual and what a miserable time I’ve had: 1. Aliens keep respawning endlessly sometimes overlapping with scripted spawns, costing valuable ammo and high frustration!, leaving me to hide behind my ally (as he kills them with ridiculously weak shotty) to then just stare as he doesn’t die (yet) and then to following point;
2. Aliens tank and they never felt so tanky in other games! Headshots were always lethal against them and not easy to perform in fast paced moments, but if you were too close they would hurt badly with acid blood. This game doesn’t seem to have that cause you never get a chance to off aliens point blank on insanity. (I should mention I was comparing to last good aliens shooter AVP by REBELLION INTERACTIVE)
3. Shooting is also unsatisfying and aliens don’t react much to being shot. 4. Checkpoints are fucked! Do I really have to carry (this is where I am now) androids head all the way to the shotgun only to die cause I haven’t yet figured how to deal with the swarm only to go back to carrying from where you cut his head off! Like they couldn’t desing better checkpoints like starting you off from the shotty.
This was supposed be my jam but as of now has some of the worst game design. Hope part 2 is better and fixes shit.
Aliens should go down quick, and player should die almost immediately, aka. Realism mode, that’s what they had to do. Rant over 6/10 so far , there are good things but few
do they actually respawn or are they coming from somewhere??
Sounds like another form of wave shooter
I wonder if this game runs better on PC with the VR adapter.
From the sounds of it you need a powerhouse for it to run well on PC
There are so, so many aliens that at some point of the game you will rethink if exploring a room or even use a computer is worth the 6-to-8 enemies (and them more) that will surely appear and make you waste valuable resources. I'm playing on the second-to-hardest difficulty and they can suck out a lot of damage.
Been playing since day one and I'm really enjoying the game, but if I'm gonna get swarmed by so many xenomorphs, I may need a Flamer or Smartgun
Darn it ... I had high hopes for this, some of the visuals could be patched in time, but not the AI/Atomosphere, I was really hoping of a fun game to play on my lonley Xmas Hols ... might actatul switch to Metro VR: Awakening, as I want creepy scarry horror (+ a bit of action), will have to think about it on Friday after work.
With all these xeno blood particle effects, you'd expect the environment to be Swiss cheese after shooting one down, unless this game occurs at a time when Y-W already developed spacecraft hulls that can withstand acidic corrosion.
It apparently takes place between the first two movies, so there's no real excuse for nerfing the danger of Xeno acid blood.
Think I will wait a few months and pick it up then. Hopefully they will rethink the gameplay decisions.
Good to see transparency!
I'm loving it so far, only just started it, but it's quenching my thrust for wanting to be in this world. Hopefully the Dev's continue to tweak it in the future.👍
Its a shame the game isnt a slam dunk but between this review and others its really sounding like I'm going to find it a really cool VR experience (for at least some of it I guess?).
I hope Part Two can be an improvement!
Damn it looks so neat in VR. Time to put my Index into work
I'll probably pick up Metro after I'm done with Behemoth, Would've preferred this to be more like Isolation.
Never "got enough already" of your reviews!
a full on alien isolation vr port should be made!
OUCH... hype derailed. 😞 7 not worth 39.99 hard pass. Putting away my PSVR2 until Jan, i guess... what a shit ending to 2024 for VR 😢
Try going in to settings change performance mode to Game mode helps with graphics
I'm familiar with that bug --- what I'm describing in this review is the actual game with the correct settings
@WithoutParole Thanks, Brian. I was gonna pick this up day 1. Think I'll wait for a sale
was waiting to see if this was better than metro. Which one should I get?
Metro 100%
Ancient Dungeon
Mervils
Thanks for your review, Creed blurry too
Absolutely amazing review, as per usual.
I might have missed it in the review, but I had mentioned in the trailer video that it didn't look as dark in some areas like I would have expected. In the game is this aesthetic met properly would you say? Did it feel like you were in an "Aliens" environment?
Second question, would you have preferred Alien Isolation over this in VR?
It was definitely dark. Very dark. Proper Alien vibes
But yeah, I would have preferred getting Alien Isolation in VR to Rogue Incursion
@WithoutParole The environment makes this a go for me. I would probably agree about isolation. Appreciate it
Lets just hope the Alien detector motion sensor becomes more useful in the mythical part2 upcoming pack. ( They updated store info) I am actually excited to think we might get MORE Alien Rogue incursion. its always a good thing to get more of a favored IP we love.
* hopes * :)
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THEN we will NEED to use the motion sensors! -_^
Thanks again for the timley review BP, your the best!
Sounds like they need to bring back the AI used on the alien in "Alien isolation" back again..if they do that i will buy it...not before. Thanks for the great review as always😊
Can i ask. Ign said in their review they had an issue with hitting the ps logo button by accident.
Did you have that issue at all or is this another case of ign blaming user error on poor controls
In the 10 hours I spent with Rogue Incursion I did that once. But I probably accidentally hit the PlayStation button once every 10 hours I spend in my PSVR2 headset, regardless of the game. It happens but it's very seldom an issue. Meaning if you don't usually do it in other games, you probably won't do it here either
@WithoutParole thanks, I thought it sounded like bullshit when he said it, but figured I had to confirm it with other sources
@@kevinsmithfan37smart i cant even find the ps button half the time lol
What is full body IK?
Inverse kinematics is the technical (and probably not-incredibly-accurate) term for having your full body represented in VR rather than just floating hands as most games do it.
@@WithoutParole Oh thank you, that's actually usually what I prefer in VR. Love your videos btw!
@@WithoutParoleIt's not inaccurate. It really is Inverse Kinematics.
Forward Kinematics is how most conventional animation is done.
This means that you know the position, orientation and velocity of the 'parent' element, and calculate those of each 'child' down the chain. For example, you start with the torso, and by applying the angle and position of the upper arm and lower arm respectively, you calculate where the hands should be.
In VR, the only information you have is the position and orientation of the hands (and head), so you have to work *backwards* from there to try and calculate where the arms and torso should be. Hence 'Inverse'.
I guess I'll wait for a sale. Waited for Metro to go on sale and finally picked it up on Monday when it was 20% off. Been playing that recently and loving it. Next I'm waiting for Behemoth sale and finally Aliens. Got so many games on backlog that I need to play through first.
Okay the non-stop xenos just sounds exhausting to me tbh.
I had no clue the main character was already established. So some of the first encounters with the xeno confused me haha. That's on me though. I should really look in to the extended alien lore more
Looks super fun to me!
Dam, I'm was really disappointed with metro awakening, this looks like I'll be disappointed with this too. Surely, both developers could have done so much more with these games and beloved IPs.
reprojection also for ps5 pro?
Yes. So far there has not been a single game where the Pro has upped the framerate and allowed for the removal of reprojection
@@WithoutParolethere is one game that announced it in a patch but cant remember which one it was. If i remember i will update this post, to help out. :)
Although i would love an official Isolation VR, i do love shooting Aliens.
A:CM was disappointing, but still fun, especially multiplayer.
But shooting Aliens in VR is my dream come through.
Even if the game is mediocre, it is still insta buy once it releases on Quest 3.
Servios is back!
I would be less inclined to play an Alien Isolation VR port because I'm a pansy. But something that puts you in that world and gives you the force necessary to defend yourself actually looks like a fun romp to me. I'll put this one on my wishlist and pick it up after I've knocked a couple other VR games off my backlog. I hope there will be some polishing before then.
I will pass on this one. I had very little faith that Survious would have pulled this off.
Thanks for this. Great review and looks like one to maybe get on a sale.
It seems more a wave shooter, it reminds me of the "Aliens: Colonial Marines" game from 2013.
I was about to buy the PSVR just because of this game: Thank God I saw this and saved a ton of money
Buy it just because of GranTurismo 7 ... then buy this game anyway. You'll have a lot of fun.
@ I bought GT7 and stopped playing after a couple days. Too much BS and wasted time just to get to multiplayer mode. I prefer Forza
@@marcinpuszczao9418 I can see where you're coming from ... but GT7 is AMAZING on PSVR2 (despite the BS grind).
@twitcherthesingleplayergamecat I honestly couldn't tell you. I got so tired of going through the BS just to get to multiplayer that I lost interest. With Forza, i jumped on, created a Free Candy van and wrecked people out in turns. Nothing like getting cursed out in 30 languages lol
i like that you included how it performs on PS5 pro will wait till it gets patched many of the issue seems fixable
Another great review, this game looks awesome. Give me bhaptics support Survios.
can wes mod this so bigelow can hunt james cameron with a flame thrower?
I thought they'd sorted things out in mediation?
Saints and Sinners also had constant spawning enemies, didnt hurt the tension. I suppose they were more avoidable
Thank you. I believe it's a good shooting game and I'll get it for sure.
Other UA-camrs noticed that performance mode in Playstation settings made the game look and feel muddy. Switch that off and it looks beautiful. Not sure if this is what plagued Bryan?
I experienced that too. What I'm describing in this review has nothing to do with that particular bug
@WithoutParole thanks Bryan!! Hoping part 2 might be a bit more on the scary, horror side. I'm still going to pick this up though. Happy holidays man!
Part of why isolation worked so well was that there weren’t endless supplies of weak aliens, it was only a few extremely strong aliens and self defense was a last resort that usually would only temporarily fend off the alien but not kill it.
This looks like it totally misses what made isolation work so well.
They should have gone with the unseen monster effect
Sounds like people were expecting Alien Isolation but in vr.
This isn't that obviously.
Sounds more like Action then horror .
Im gonna wait till part 2 is released. Thank you for your honest review!