Definitely not conservatives have spent the last 14 years under funding it deliberately to convince the public that we should have privatised insurance healthcare. Massive profit for insurance companies and prioritised hospitals.
It already is, there's lots of backdoor privatisation already going on. Even if Labour get in Streeting has said he wants to use the private sector more. The NHS is slowly dying.
Rish Sunak didn’t want to say it was racist because he didn’t want to upset his racist voters. Kemi didn’t have the decency to call Diane Abbott by her first name. Calling her Abbott, like she was a prison officer, speaking to a prisoner.
Coco and Nish, back in the studio and face to face - all's right in the world. Wait...no it isn't. Not even close, but it is nice to see them back in the studio and in person again.
Kate Middleton, like any public figure, is certainly deserving of privacy. But I also think that it's absurd for the royal family to complain about the massive proliferation of rumors filling in the resulting information vacuum. The massive fortune that pays for the luxury lifestyle the royals enjoy is made off of the family’s status as the Kardashians of Kensingtion Palace. The royals need to make peace with the choices they themselves made and move on.
I think Conservative parties are just expected to be bigoted so it doesn't get that much attention compared to leftist parties that are expected to be better on that front.
We already are piece by piece. Very restricted dental care is available on the NHS, if you can’t pay private then generally having teeth pulled is the cheapest option.
You two have such a lovely way to add a light touch to so many subjects, while giving truly troubling subjects the appropriate serious tone. Your guest visits are always very open and honest, which is a relief!Plus when you guys start riffing off of each other I actually giggle out loud - such a gift you are ❤😘🤙
This is crazy. So many general health problems start with the teeth. Dental care is preventative care! If you have good dentistry, you don't need to spend as much time tackling acute full-body problems because you stopped them at their source: the mouth. But so many healthcare systems don't include dentistry, or only include two cleanings a year and not any medical intervention.
Seems like the safest thing for a dentist to do is recommend porridge for people who might normally eat Dal and Dal for those that might normally eat porridge.
My grandmother used to cook extra dinner and leave it out in the garden for a set of baskets that'd come by and eat it every night, they'd eat anything except peas, one of them had 3 legs.
Can i just say, over the last 5 month's there's been 20+ episodes of this show, but not one has focussed on the UK's role in the genocide in Gaza. I think it's quite deloprable that a "poltics" podcast has barely mentioned this.
I like Beth. But, a stunning statement that Brits are not racist, for the most part. Stunning in that she makes that statement in front of two brown Brits. Ask them. I bet they've each received verbal racism since children. I also like to think that most Brits are not that ignorant. However, not for me to tell two brown Brits that's how I see it.
Great to have you back Coco, with your bright cheerful top and your beautiful velvet mane of glorious curls. Of course 30p Lee is going to ignore journalists and be disrespectful to reporters who are women esp- He told us he’s all about the ‘culture war’…don’t tell me we’ve had enough of cruel discrimination, prejudice, bullying from our ejected officials?!
Badger anecdote: As a child, I went camping in the woods with my Dad and brothers. In the middle of the night I heard strange noises and saw shadows, so I woke my Dad. He opened the tent flap, shone the flashlight outside, froze, and then slowly pulled his head back in and rezipped the tent. He said it was nothing and to go back to sleep. When we were home safe the next day, he let me know that there were at least 4 badgers (that he could see) surrounding our tent. 😅
I was disappointed by the waylaying of discussion of the hierarchy of racism by Beth. Nish made a valid intervention that there is a clear hierarchy of racism within the UK that “privileges” (for lack of a better word) concerns of antisemitism over Islamophobia and anti-black racism (as well as other types of discrimination faced by groups like the Roma). He also made a fair point that the media, in particular, prosecuted antisemitism within Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party much more effectively than any type of bigotry displayed by the Conservative Party. But where was the discussion over the same hierarchy at play *within* the Labour Party that enables allegations of Islamophobia and anti-black racism, the findings of the Forde Report, the disproportionately harsh discipline meted out against black and minority ethnic activists, councillors and MPs, the lack of support offered by the Leadership to, particularly women, MPs who receive the most gender-, race-, and religious -based threats of violence. Nish and Coco had the opportunity to hold one of the leading political commentators to account on the frankly shoddy job the lobby has done to hold those in power to account and, sadly, did not do a very effective job at it. I love the show, but am honestly left disappointed.
Random question, but are there plans to release any PSUK merch? Have been checking in on the Crooked store every few weeks just in case, but nothing there so far (I have plenty of PSA & Lovett merch already 😆) - would love to support the PSUK team. Love listening to the podcast first thing every Friday morning (in Australia)
I find it bizarre, but perhaps not so surprising that British and American conservative parties weirdly parallel each other. I find both distasteful to say the least, both, in terms of actual policy making and, on a more personal level, with their naked bigotry.
If I recall correctly, Tommy Veitor has a ChatGPT subscription. As a member of the Crooked Media family, surely he can have ChatGPT write your intro chat.
I think the impulse is to assume the Tories are deeply incompetent when it comes to comms but has everyone missed an actual competent move this week? I think you can argue the Tories have already lost anyone who cares about Islamophobia or anti black racism and pays attention to Westminster. I personally don't vote for parties that don't acknowledge I'm an equal human being deserving of the same dignity and humanity as anyone else but that's me. Not every potential voter agrees or even thinks that deeply on the subject. Bringing us to the political equivalent of "some of my friends are black" which more than one person has used. It's possible they're all idiots, very possible, but someone somewhere should still know how ineffective a defence it is. It doesn't just not convince people, it does the opposite. That is unless that's how you defend yourself or think about racism. So are they just giving up on anyone who thinks Frank Hester is abhorrent, especially if it is worth £15M to the party, and targeting people who think everyone is too "woke" and can't understand what the big deal is anyway?
I mean. Coco, it is undeniable that Indian food is one of or, perhaps, the best food in the world... it does have heavy competition from Italian, Mexican and Japanese for me, though. Fortunately, I don’t have to choose one to the exclusion of others. ❤
I’m here to talk about badgers and animal celebrities. I once saw a beaver crossing the road in front of me when driving home from my second shift job and there was no one there to corroborate. It was in 2020 but I still tell people about it
Populist right-wingers who deal in outrage politics and don't actually have any real, workable solutions. Like: fewer immigrants! Ok, so how do we have enough people to work? Like: we want Real Brexit™! Ok, so how would you deal with the impending huge crunch of added customs checks?
Racist dentist or CoCo had Dal and Rice stuck in her teeth (or on her breath) to a memorable level at some recent visit. Check the shirt you wore to the dentist.
One note on your format, I love the little jingle between the segments but I'm not sure why it plays twice, its a bit jarring and the only other place I've heard it is TV show recordings where they cut out the ads. Love the show otherwise, best wishes from Canada.
I've been following on YT since the beginning, and that double jingle used to "frame" the ads that obviously figure on the podcast. They were always skippable in YT thanks to the timestamps, but at some point they got taken out. The frame remained, though.
talking about explaining weird things about our political system - I'd love you guys to do an in-depth explaination of our FPP voting system and its implications. I find myself continueously having to explain this to people both in UK and aborad. not asking you to dedicate and entire epesode or anything.
39:50 Quick comment while I’m all fired up - grrrr, I hadn’t seen that from Matthew Parris, and to say I’m not impressed is an understatement! 😤 I’m a couple of years older than Nish, and got a very overdue ADHD diagnosis and subsequent treatment 8 years ago; which was all of: a relief, a validation, an answer to many questions, helpful, upsetting, a thing that made me think “what if…”, and something that made me think about who I am and how I relate to people and how I function in the world, almost from scratch. It’s been a journey, shall we say! Completely connected to this, I’ve also been figuring out being autistic at the same time, which in many ways has been more challenging (but the interaction between the two has been the biggest struggle in my experience! Also, you can take medication to treat ADHD symptoms… but if you’re also autistic, in my experience I’ve found that taking ADHD medication actually makes the autistic traits rise up and become stronger; I guess because the two conditions were in some ways pulling in opposite directions and masking the other, and drawing on the positive traits from each condition where useful?!) Plus the process of getting an official autism diagnosis through the assessment process as an adult has been seemingly impenetrable to me, so my diagnosis has almost been a side-note from my otherwise eminently qualified consultant psychiatrist during the formal ADHD assessment process, and follow-up aftercare. And I refute everything Parris (and other neurodivergency skeptics) say(s)! It might have taken me into my 30s to get any kind of diagnosis, but it’s not like I just spotted a bandwagon and jumped on it 🙄 When I was a small child there were “differences” noted, and I apparently had a psychologist assessment I only found out about *much* later… but being a female child in rural Cornwall in the 80s (and otherwise high-achieving academically), there was a huge stigma involved; lack of clarity about it being anything other than a negative thing that would bring doom instead of any clarity or assistance meant that my parents thought it in my best interest not to go down that route at all and risk being “tarred with that brush”, so to speak (phrasing indicative of the mood at the time!). I don’t for a second doubt that they did the best they could with the knowledge they had, but given the time again, with the current level of knowledge and understanding in society etc, I would definitely prefer having had the diagnosis early and relevant accommodations in place right from the start! I *know* I’m by far not the only person with this kind of experience, so it’s no wonder there’s been a surge of adult diagnoses concommitant with the increase in understanding, in stark contrast to what was available decades ago! tl;dr - a great choice for villain of the week!
Nish should aim to be the angry agony uncle. That’s the one that will work very hard not to “ruin the reunion” by giving carefully pithy hostile responses to cousin bitcoin and uncle country club, then go split a joint with you behind the garden and let you rant about boomers stealing your future and give you good advice about unionizing your day job.
Has she or have you spoken about what you eat, like , have eaten or would eat, what culture is the dentist from, when is advice offensive or would it be wrong if she said comments to other nationalities that were stereo typical and were do you draw the line or can certain nationalities make statements because they are from said nationality etc etc! Let’s just get on with people and be as respectful as you can. Racism when it’s disgustingly in your face like what you are talking about and the Tory donor etc, for me it’s the hypocrisy that is worse!
As the American here, you don't want to privatize your healthcare system
We know but we’re not listened to.
Definitely not conservatives have spent the last 14 years under funding it deliberately to convince the public that we should have privatised insurance healthcare. Massive profit for insurance companies and prioritised hospitals.
yeah we know,our NHS is the nearest we have to a national religion in the UK and we will fight tooth and nail to keep it.
It already is, there's lots of backdoor privatisation already going on. Even if Labour get in Streeting has said he wants to use the private sector more. The NHS is slowly dying.
No, YOU do.
I updated Beth Rigby's wikipedia to reflect that she is in fact not married.
Was wondering who did that. I was about to it too.
Ditto - we are all pretty type A apparently 😊
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, Coco, for calling out Matthew Parris and his ignorance around ADHD. It's appreciated.
Rish Sunak didn’t want to say it was racist because he didn’t want to upset his racist voters. Kemi didn’t have the decency to call Diane Abbott by her first name. Calling her Abbott, like she was a prison officer, speaking to a prisoner.
Bad Enoch ought to know better than that.
'That's politics, darling', says the terribly patronizing entitled man.
Coco and Nish, back in the studio and face to face - all's right in the world. Wait...no it isn't. Not even close, but it is nice to see them back in the studio and in person again.
Kate Middleton, like any public figure, is certainly deserving of privacy. But I also think that it's absurd for the royal family to complain about the massive proliferation of rumors filling in the resulting information vacuum. The massive fortune that pays for the luxury lifestyle the royals enjoy is made off of the family’s status as the Kardashians of Kensingtion Palace. The royals need to make peace with the choices they themselves made and move on.
The dentistry anecdote brings to mind the huge cuts to mental health: like you can have physical health *without* dental/mental health!
Lee Anderson discreetly flipping off Beth Rigby at 10:07 with the “just rubbing my eye” device.
I saw that.
God, he's so pathetic.
I think Conservative parties are just expected to be bigoted so it doesn't get that much attention compared to leftist parties that are expected to be better on that front.
Certainly part of it
Yes agree!
I'm American. PLEASE DON'T LET YOUR GOVERNMENT PRIVATIZE YOUR HEALTHCARE!!!!
We already are piece by piece. Very restricted dental care is available on the NHS, if you can’t pay private then generally having teeth pulled is the cheapest option.
@@markieuanrobertsWait til your recommended cancer meds are not covered like my friend’s in RI.
we happen to like universal healthcare. Maybe you should mind your own business
You two have such a lovely way to add a light touch to so many subjects, while giving truly troubling subjects the appropriate serious tone. Your guest visits are always very open and honest, which is a relief!Plus when you guys start riffing off of each other I actually giggle out loud - such a gift you are ❤😘🤙
Coco. Very good words.. I am Schizophrenic and whilst there is currently no cure for it, I’m hopeful. All the best.x
Kudos to Glazer for his words.
Doesn’t the royal family gets paid by the UK government (taxpayer) to be public figures?
I went to Versailles a couple of years ago. You keep the palace, evict the residents. just saying.
The French didn’t just evict
Coco forgetting the music after a few bars LOL I love her confidence and her affinity for small furry mammals!
I cherish every time Coco does the ending music. 😂😂
Hello from denmark! No detist-care included in helthcare here at all, so many young people don't have the money💔
yeah its really stupid
This is crazy. So many general health problems start with the teeth. Dental care is preventative care! If you have good dentistry, you don't need to spend as much time tackling acute full-body problems because you stopped them at their source: the mouth. But so many healthcare systems don't include dentistry, or only include two cleanings a year and not any medical intervention.
The closing music…covered by Coco Kahn….perfect! 🤣🤣✌️✌️💕💕
Legit thought I heard Beth say "Maya Angelou is a former graphic designer..."
Okay, I saw this comment before she said it. What did she actually say? 😂 I can’t unhear it.
@@rachels.8051😂 "My Angelo", her partner
@@gregarmstrong1670 thanks 😊
It would be so nice to have anything like the NHS.
thank you for being so silly at the end!
Love you two. Thanks for all you do!
Seems like the safest thing for a dentist to do is recommend porridge for people who might normally eat Dal and Dal for those that might normally eat porridge.
My grandmother used to cook extra dinner and leave it out in the garden for a set of baskets that'd come by and eat it every night, they'd eat anything except peas, one of them had 3 legs.
Beth Rigby! Cool, cool, cool
Labour's dealing with discrimination?
The Forde Report, commissioned by Starmer.
The Labour Files - Al Jazzera.
Lmao Coco you started so strong on matching the song! 😂😂
Can i just say, over the last 5 month's there's been 20+ episodes of this show, but not one has focussed on the UK's role in the genocide in Gaza. I think it's quite deloprable that a "poltics" podcast has barely mentioned this.
I like Beth. But, a stunning statement that Brits are not racist, for the most part. Stunning in that she makes that statement in front of two brown Brits. Ask them. I bet they've each received verbal racism since children. I also like to think that most Brits are not that ignorant. However, not for me to tell two brown Brits that's how I see it.
Great interview! Love from Canada 🇨🇦
@20.04 - I do like how the defence is the same essential one of "I can't be a racists, because I have a friend who is [Insert ethnicity]"
I love Beth Rigby's voice .
Beth Rigby "Charles has been well received" Really!!!!
Great to have you back Coco, with your bright cheerful top and your beautiful velvet mane of glorious curls.
Of course 30p Lee is going to ignore journalists and be disrespectful to reporters who are women esp- He told us he’s all about the ‘culture war’…don’t tell me we’ve had enough of cruel discrimination, prejudice, bullying from our ejected officials?!
Also Beth is great and Lee Anderson gives politicians a bad name. Also I bet he’ll love his pay rise
Wife joke McGee Coco! Also, what happened to the Pod Shag the UK dating?? Don’t let it die! 😁
Kate should wear a red and white striped shirt.
you two are just the sweetest 🤣🤣
Badger anecdote: As a child, I went camping in the woods with my Dad and brothers. In the middle of the night I heard strange noises and saw shadows, so I woke my Dad. He opened the tent flap, shone the flashlight outside, froze, and then slowly pulled his head back in and rezipped the tent. He said it was nothing and to go back to sleep. When we were home safe the next day, he let me know that there were at least 4 badgers (that he could see) surrounding our tent. 😅
A podcast with Beth Rigby, Jess Phillips and Ruth Davidson! Sign me up
First time I've heard this and an immediate fan Excellent debate
Love this podcast ❤
I was disappointed by the waylaying of discussion of the hierarchy of racism by Beth.
Nish made a valid intervention that there is a clear hierarchy of racism within the UK that “privileges” (for lack of a better word) concerns of antisemitism over Islamophobia and anti-black racism (as well as other types of discrimination faced by groups like the Roma). He also made a fair point that the media, in particular, prosecuted antisemitism within Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party much more effectively than any type of bigotry displayed by the Conservative Party.
But where was the discussion over the same hierarchy at play *within* the Labour Party that enables allegations of Islamophobia and anti-black racism, the findings of the Forde Report, the disproportionately harsh discipline meted out against black and minority ethnic activists, councillors and MPs, the lack of support offered by the Leadership to, particularly women, MPs who receive the most gender-, race-, and religious -based threats of violence.
Nish and Coco had the opportunity to hold one of the leading political commentators to account on the frankly shoddy job the lobby has done to hold those in power to account and, sadly, did not do a very effective job at it. I love the show, but am honestly left disappointed.
wow, beth hard-swerved what is happening within the royal family
My daughter has ADHD and is in full time work and has worked since leaving college.
I have chips and a cold Coke … so ready for this one! 😂
I also thought Nish said "Angry Uncle Nish"
Random question, but are there plans to release any PSUK merch? Have been checking in on the Crooked store every few weeks just in case, but nothing there so far (I have plenty of PSA & Lovett merch already 😆) - would love to support the PSUK team. Love listening to the podcast first thing every Friday morning (in Australia)
@25 mins into the conversation…Nish, that was such a great point and completely agree…re racism in the two main parties
UK politics sounds similar to Canadian politics.
And US
Whose line is it anyway!?
yes, I was in the Bristol dentist Q for 7 hours. just paid £26 for checkup. £120 for first (++) filling
I bet you guys would get on great with Some More News.
I find it bizarre, but perhaps not so surprising that British and American conservative parties weirdly parallel each other. I find both distasteful to say the least, both, in terms of actual policy making and, on a more personal level, with their naked bigotry.
If I recall correctly, Tommy Veitor has a ChatGPT subscription. As a member of the Crooked Media family, surely he can have ChatGPT write your intro chat.
I love the word aggro. Best thing mmorpgs have done for culture. Makes up for the rest of it.
I think the impulse is to assume the Tories are deeply incompetent when it comes to comms but has everyone missed an actual competent move this week? I think you can argue the Tories have already lost anyone who cares about Islamophobia or anti black racism and pays attention to Westminster. I personally don't vote for parties that don't acknowledge I'm an equal human being deserving of the same dignity and humanity as anyone else but that's me. Not every potential voter agrees or even thinks that deeply on the subject.
Bringing us to the political equivalent of "some of my friends are black" which more than one person has used. It's possible they're all idiots, very possible, but someone somewhere should still know how ineffective a defence it is. It doesn't just not convince people, it does the opposite. That is unless that's how you defend yourself or think about racism. So are they just giving up on anyone who thinks Frank Hester is abhorrent, especially if it is worth £15M to the party, and targeting people who think everyone is too "woke" and can't understand what the big deal is anyway?
I mean. Coco, it is undeniable that Indian food is one of or, perhaps, the best food in the world... it does have heavy competition from Italian, Mexican and Japanese for me, though. Fortunately, I don’t have to choose one to the exclusion of others. ❤
"Did you not plan this?" Angry Uncle Nish asked at the end of his 'political' podcast episode featuring 30% badgers and photoshop.
15 million at least actually!
I’m here to talk about badgers and animal celebrities. I once saw a beaver crossing the road in front of me when driving home from my second shift job and there was no one there to corroborate. It was in 2020 but I still tell people about it
It’s obviously Bukayo
Maybe my memory just sucks but, can you explain Reform UK?
Populist right-wingers who deal in outrage politics and don't actually have any real, workable solutions.
Like: fewer immigrants! Ok, so how do we have enough people to work?
Like: we want Real Brexit™! Ok, so how would you deal with the impending huge crunch of added customs checks?
Random question did he say 10 million quid or quidditch
@ Nish: OK international Question: what are the differences in development between the European badger in Britain and mainland Europe
Matthew Parris's column has become unrecognisable. Is this the new Times editor?
Racist dentist or CoCo had Dal and Rice stuck in her teeth (or on her breath) to a memorable level at some recent visit. Check the shirt you wore to the dentist.
One note on your format, I love the little jingle between the segments but I'm not sure why it plays twice, its a bit jarring and the only other place I've heard it is TV show recordings where they cut out the ads.
Love the show otherwise, best wishes from Canada.
I've been following on YT since the beginning, and that double jingle used to "frame" the ads that obviously figure on the podcast. They were always skippable in YT thanks to the timestamps, but at some point they got taken out. The frame remained, though.
@@1midnightfish now that you mention it I remember those, I guess it is just a weird artifact of the beginning of the podcast.
talking about explaining weird things about our political system - I'd love you guys to do an in-depth explaination of our FPP voting system and its implications. I find myself continueously having to explain this to people both in UK and aborad. not asking you to dedicate and entire epesode or anything.
39:50 Quick comment while I’m all fired up - grrrr, I hadn’t seen that from Matthew Parris, and to say I’m not impressed is an understatement! 😤
I’m a couple of years older than Nish, and got a very overdue ADHD diagnosis and subsequent treatment 8 years ago; which was all of: a relief, a validation, an answer to many questions, helpful, upsetting, a thing that made me think “what if…”, and something that made me think about who I am and how I relate to people and how I function in the world, almost from scratch. It’s been a journey, shall we say!
Completely connected to this, I’ve also been figuring out being autistic at the same time, which in many ways has been more challenging (but the interaction between the two has been the biggest struggle in my experience! Also, you can take medication to treat ADHD symptoms… but if you’re also autistic, in my experience I’ve found that taking ADHD medication actually makes the autistic traits rise up and become stronger; I guess because the two conditions were in some ways pulling in opposite directions and masking the other, and drawing on the positive traits from each condition where useful?!) Plus the process of getting an official autism diagnosis through the assessment process as an adult has been seemingly impenetrable to me, so my diagnosis has almost been a side-note from my otherwise eminently qualified consultant psychiatrist during the formal ADHD assessment process, and follow-up aftercare.
And I refute everything Parris (and other neurodivergency skeptics) say(s)! It might have taken me into my 30s to get any kind of diagnosis, but it’s not like I just spotted a bandwagon and jumped on it 🙄 When I was a small child there were “differences” noted, and I apparently had a psychologist assessment I only found out about *much* later… but being a female child in rural Cornwall in the 80s (and otherwise high-achieving academically), there was a huge stigma involved; lack of clarity about it being anything other than a negative thing that would bring doom instead of any clarity or assistance meant that my parents thought it in my best interest not to go down that route at all and risk being “tarred with that brush”, so to speak (phrasing indicative of the mood at the time!). I don’t for a second doubt that they did the best they could with the knowledge they had, but given the time again, with the current level of knowledge and understanding in society etc, I would definitely prefer having had the diagnosis early and relevant accommodations in place right from the start! I *know* I’m by far not the only person with this kind of experience, so it’s no wonder there’s been a surge of adult diagnoses concommitant with the increase in understanding, in stark contrast to what was available decades ago!
tl;dr - a great choice for villain of the week!
Nish should aim to be the angry agony uncle. That’s the one that will work very hard not to “ruin the reunion” by giving carefully pithy hostile responses to cousin bitcoin and uncle country club, then go split a joint with you behind the garden and let you rant about boomers stealing your future and give you good advice about unionizing your day job.
Oh Nish, how far you've fallen. smooshing with the enemy, smh.
You do need to script your chats.
when she said "my other half" I lost interest.
This headline is cancer
There’s dentistry in the UK?
'neg'...fo
Has she or have you spoken about what you eat, like , have eaten or would eat, what culture is the dentist from, when is advice offensive or would it be wrong if she said comments to other nationalities that were stereo typical and were do you draw the line or can certain nationalities make statements because they are from said nationality etc etc! Let’s just get on with people and be as respectful as you can. Racism when it’s disgustingly in your face like what you are talking about and the Tory donor etc, for me it’s the hypocrisy that is worse!
My god this show is this many episodes in and it's somehow worse. What a shame to have the pod save tag on this joke of a show
Zone of Interest is a brilliant movie
Nish Kumar is the most unfunny conceited comedian in the UK.