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New official here. At 5:00 maybe I’m missing something but idk how this is a block even with the embellishment by the defender. Are we saying that defender is moving forward at the moment of contact? Otherwise he’s allowed to move backward/laterally to maintain his LGP and still take a PC right?
I too have this as a player control foul. Two feet on court and torso facing opponent = Legal Guarding Position OBTAINED Moves laterally = Legal Guarding Position MAINTAINED Ball handler does not get head & shoulders past opponent NOR does he become airborne (this latter portion only being relevant on this play in the defender continued moving into the path AFTER the player became airborne) = burden of illegal contact is on the ballhandler. Even with embellishment, there is still illegal contact by the ballhandler and that embellishment can be ignored.
I am not sure why Play 1 would not be a foul on the OFFENSE. The offensive player (OP) initiated contact with and ended up in the space legally occupied by a defensive player (DP) who had LGP. How is he not legal? DP had both feet on the floor and was facing OP long before OP started his drive and DP moved very little to maintain that position. When OP's right foot is on the free throw line, DP is directly between OP and the basket. Furthermore, NFHS does not discriminate between primary and secondary defenders. He is merely required to obtain LGP before the player is airborne, which he did.
@@tonyhaire2985 High school basketball rules mention nothing about a "spot." What matters is whether the player has LGP. To have LGP, you just have to be facing the opponent with two feet on the floor, and there is no maximum distance.
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Bonus play - I want to use that move when I call an "and 1". I can just see me count the basket and follow through with that flip move!
Violates the lane before the freethrow hits the rim? What state follows this rule?
New official here. At 5:00 maybe I’m missing something but idk how this is a block even with the embellishment by the defender. Are we saying that defender is moving forward at the moment of contact? Otherwise he’s allowed to move backward/laterally to maintain his LGP and still take a PC right?
You didn't miss anything, that's a PC 10 times out of 10.
Two feet on the floor, facing the opponent, able to move laterally, obliquely or backwards. I believe the defender checked all those boxes.
I too have this as a player control foul.
Two feet on court and torso facing opponent = Legal Guarding Position OBTAINED
Moves laterally = Legal Guarding Position MAINTAINED
Ball handler does not get head & shoulders past opponent NOR does he become airborne (this latter portion only being relevant on this play in the defender continued moving into the path AFTER the player became airborne) = burden of illegal contact is on the ballhandler.
Even with embellishment, there is still illegal contact by the ballhandler and that embellishment can be ignored.
PC foul all day every day. It's not even close. Specially with FIBA rule set.
I add to the 100% PC chorus. Add to that the terrible block mechanic by lead and it just looks foolish.
Do you think you can talk about the new 4 spot out of bounds rule?
Charging
Player control on offense
They also missed the offensive player twice shoving the defender under the basket so the rebound could be recovered by offense.
timestamp?
Play #1 - good no call, you would only punish the offense by taking away an easy bucket if you called a block.
Block at the Palace...
Was Play 2 a charge? Offense contact looked like it was in the chest of defense? I see player control foul.
Play 2 is 100% a charge. Defense established LGP and moved obliquely (not toward the ballhandler). Offensive player hit him square in the chest.
Play #4. I don't see that the top defensive player violates before the ball hits the rim. He does, however, displace the shooter.
yeah im confused by this one, dont see lane violation at all, only the foul. Officials didn't give delay signal either so not sure
It appears to me that he did cross the free throw line before the ball hit the rim, but the angle and quality of the video is not great.
Play #5 - let's start with a travel on White #32.
I am not sure why Play 1 would not be a foul on the OFFENSE. The offensive player (OP) initiated contact with and ended up in the space legally occupied by a defensive player (DP) who had LGP. How is he not legal? DP had both feet on the floor and was facing OP long before OP started his drive and DP moved very little to maintain that position. When OP's right foot is on the free throw line, DP is directly between OP and the basket. Furthermore, NFHS does not discriminate between primary and secondary defenders. He is merely required to obtain LGP before the player is airborne, which he did.
He didn't have LGP. He was still moving to his spot on the floor when the offensive player left the floor. That's a block.
@@tonyhaire2985 High school basketball rules mention nothing about a "spot." What matters is whether the player has LGP. To have LGP, you just have to be facing the opponent with two feet on the floor, and there is no maximum distance.
Offense of foul
PC