Hey I know I’m extremely late to the party. But i used this video as reference today to do a manual CCT on my gsxr 1000. You WAY over tightened the CCT, you can hear the whining in the cam chain when you’re revving the bike. Same thing happened to mine by following your steps. You’re supposed to only tighten it till you feel resistance, turn it another 1/2 turn and then back out about 1/8 of a turn. I was confused as to why you were tightening it so much. 10 year old video, but can still ruin somebody’s bike today following this guide!
Seems like most people install these things wrong. If it's too tight, the chain guide gets shredded and sends plastic dust and chunks all throughout the engine's oil galleries.
I know this video was filmed in the hieroglyphics age but I just had to comment on your tattoo (talk about hieroglyphics!). Good Work. I too have to check my CCT on my '02 R1.
just did mine minutes ago fired up all well although It is still the same as with stock tensioner it ticks when cold but then the noise disappears when hot,, I guess I didn't tighten it enough... or it might be the valves ticking? anyway great video helped a lot
I have a Vstrom 650 and I put cams in it. Now it rattles a bit under harder accel around 7k rpm. Could the MCT help get rid of the rattling? Detonation?
Hey dude, you dont need to fill the hole were the yellow thing was you took out? Isnt that the oilpressure to the old acct? Saw some videos they putted some sealing in in that hole. Best regards bad ass video brother!
Sounds like you may have it on a little too tight there. Also wondering why you had to remove the air box, throttle bodies, etc.? It looks like you could have replaced it just by lifting up the tank. Wondering if there's any particular reason for doing it this way?
@@ysug16 It's not necessary, push bike forward to tight the slack while in gear. remove tensioner, install new tensioner, tighten until you feel it tension, roll forward again, tighten another 1/4 turn, and done. No risk to the chain whatsoever.
really enjoyed it :) many thanks :D bike sounds alot sweeter .i think the timing on my srad 98 has jumped ,so adjustment needed and ape tensior me thinks :)
Sound before 0:20 & 1:36 after 20:18. Using a mechanics stethoscopes (screwdriver) it sounds like the noise originates in the top by the valves on my bike so I am unsure if it is the cam chain tensioner (CCT), but the sounds are really similar?
I don't know if you still have the bike or are having the issue, but the bike is hunting for the idle. The slip on muffler is breathing so much more that it leans out the mixture and the computer can't compensate properly. A power commander or something similar should fix that.
Dude, you should have checked your valve clearances with a set of feeler gauges!!!? you were all the way disassembled and had the timing mark cover off and everything?!! oh well.
good shit mane. got mine in for my zx6 should be about the same (we'll find out tomorrow when I get under the tank). hitting the window with a rock... ain't that a bitch, I done that shit twice.
LoCashINC for a 06 gsxr that has a ape cam chain tensioner already and i just need to adjust it must i take off the valve cover as well? or just throtle body and air box???
can I check with u, installing MCCT without cam cover off, I turned my APE mcct by fingers till it touched cam chain guide, but should we advance fwd 1/4 turn or back out 1/4 turn? It seems like the APE web is asking to back out , will this be loosening cam chain too much?
+Nick Peh The reason for baking it out is to set tension at 0. ideally you want the cahin set with 0 tension on it AND zero free play. This set up will ensure long cam chain life.
spafro101 Stock ones are garbage and they can fuck your engine up. If you do this right, you're set for good. If you here the noise again, you just add some tension to the manual one...
spafro101 Yes, too much is bad. Adhere to the directions and there is nothing bad about it. The noise doesn't just suck, it can potentially be catastrophic to an engine.
networkbits Would you care to elaborate on this, please? Do you suggest leaving the cam cover on and just adjust it by feeling the chain touching the guide?
+Tadas B You don't need to remove the valve cover. Set timing first to TDC. Remove old CCT. Install new manual CCT. You screw in CCT until it stops. Next, while turning engine over by hand you screw CCT in until it stops once again. Do not over tighten. You just want to stop when you start feeling resistance. This removes all slack in cam chain. Chain is now slack free. Back off CCT bolt 1/8th turn, snug up and done. This will set the cam chain with 0 free play with 0 tension pushing on it and allow for thermal expansion.. You may have to tinker with it again in 15,000 km or more, and it will be a fine adjustment at most. What kills cam chains is the damn tension placed on them by the automatic tensioner spring. So even while bike is not running, you still get tension on the chain. With a manual CCT, you only get tension while engine is running. You made a simple job look horribly complicated. However, I commend you for doing it yourself. Regardless of the unnecessary excess work involved, you did the job, and saved fucking ridiculous $$$ in labor rates. Plus, you'll never have to worry about the CCT failing and killing your engine. And I don't care what brand of bike it is. ALL manual CCT are shit and will fail. Lastly, i"m going to give you some advice. Go buy an inch pound torque wrench. Tighten ALL engine bolts to recommended torque settings. Steel bolts with aluminum bolts holes is a recipe for disaster. Using a ratchet is a sure fired way to strip bolt holes out, and trust me they are not an easy fix..I've been there and it fucking sucks. Good vid and once again, good on you for doing it yourself. Keep the rubber side down brother.
+GPz84 you said " Plus, you'll never have to worry about the CCT failing and killing your engine. And I don't care what brand of bike it is. ALL manual CCT are shit and will fail." you meant to say auto CCT are shit and fail right?
Where is the torque wrench? U didn't use it :O. Sry dude, inferior work.. Bad tools, not enough information, bad engine sound. Sounds like many metal pieces inside.. My gsxr never sounds like this
Hey I know I’m extremely late to the party. But i used this video as reference today to do a manual CCT on my gsxr 1000. You WAY over tightened the CCT, you can hear the whining in the cam chain when you’re revving the bike. Same thing happened to mine by following your steps. You’re supposed to only tighten it till you feel resistance, turn it another 1/2 turn and then back out about 1/8 of a turn. I was confused as to why you were tightening it so much. 10 year old video, but can still ruin somebody’s bike today following this guide!
Seems like most people install these things wrong. If it's too tight, the chain guide gets shredded and sends plastic dust and chunks all throughout the engine's oil galleries.
Thanks bro saved my bike 🙏
Props for showing how. Over torqued the tensioner mounting bolts though. Torque wrench would make you nearly a pro.
how do you find TDC,, is it through rotating the crankshaft and aligning the index marks?
valve cover gasket lol always the hardest part of the job.
Really like this video good music too. Got my Ape tensioner ordered can't wait to install it on my old school 1985 ZX900 Ninja.
I know this video was filmed in the hieroglyphics age but I just had to comment on your tattoo (talk about hieroglyphics!). Good Work. I too have to check my CCT on my '02 R1.
just did mine minutes ago fired up all well although It is still the same as with stock tensioner it ticks when cold but then the noise disappears when hot,, I guess I didn't tighten it enough... or it might be the valves ticking? anyway great video helped a lot
Awesome video, summing up the courage to do mine very shortly.
You can win and you won. Sorry for the glass, but thank you so much for the video 👍
And the benefit over a good standard tensioner is?
I have a Vstrom 650 and I put cams in it. Now it rattles a bit under harder accel around 7k rpm. Could the MCT help get rid of the rattling? Detonation?
thanks, im putting one on my 06" 600 and its basicly the same install thanks !
Good vid. But I gotta laugh, obviously a professional mechanic moonlightin. LOL
Hey dude, you dont need to fill the hole were the yellow thing was you took out? Isnt that the oilpressure to the old acct? Saw some videos they putted some sealing in in that hole.
Best regards bad ass video brother!
I can't get past the "gold watch key chain" that's going to scratch the shit out of the triple tree. Why do so many people use key chains on bikes?!?
muy bien! excellent video...and i like the music. thanks for uploading.
like the music! Hello - The Prayer - Korey Heyer
That's a bad ass video homie!!! Thanks for sharing
a really beautiful video! worth to prepare it! seeing it - was for me a small journey.thanks friend. GSXR LOVERS OLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ! ! !
finally long awaited part 2
Nicely edited sir .
Thanks
good!
What the song in the begining? thank!
Good job, Squirt.
great video, this will help me out when i do mine in a couple weeks thanks for posting!
This the also the best time to do a big serves of the engine new oil and plugs and trow in a new filter wont hurt
great Write up man i will be tackling this job soon
Great vid man.. i kinda did this today wrong and hopefully this helps me out tomorrow. just hope I didn't bend a valve.
very cool informative and entertaining video...thanks for posting
Cut away from yourself guy. I had to learn the hard way haha good video.
thanks man ! ....new Gasket,cylinder Head Cover not needed ?
Grts
I know this video was posted a long time ago, but do you remember how much time did you have invested for the swap? Thanks
Sounds like you may have it on a little too tight there. Also wondering why you had to remove the air box, throttle bodies, etc.? It looks like you could have replaced it just by lifting up the tank. Wondering if there's any particular reason for doing it this way?
yes, becuase you need to prevent the cam chain skips one theeth , so you need to use the zip to tie the cams....... Yes it is necesarry. Regards!
@@ysug16 It's not necessary, push bike forward to tight the slack while in gear.
remove tensioner, install new tensioner, tighten until you feel it tension, roll forward again, tighten another 1/4 turn, and done.
No risk to the chain whatsoever.
@@Stoney-Lawson thats how I did my R1...easy money
@@gersonjimenez5737 yeah man been doing it that way for years across many different bikes.
@@Stoney-Lawson simple and effective, gotta do it to my 14 GSXR1000 now, just got the CCT today. Anyway ride safe brother!
hi, Excellent video, congratulations.
really enjoyed it :) many thanks :D bike sounds alot sweeter .i think the timing on my srad 98 has jumped ,so adjustment needed and ape tensior me thinks :)
Good stuff bro do you still have your gsxr
muy bien....you sir are a pro!
Sound before 0:20 & 1:36 after 20:18. Using a mechanics stethoscopes (screwdriver) it sounds like the noise originates in the top by the valves on my bike so I am unsure if it is the cam chain tensioner (CCT), but the sounds are really similar?
I don't know if you still have the bike or are having the issue, but the bike is hunting for the idle. The slip on muffler is breathing so much more that it leans out the mixture and the computer can't compensate properly. A power commander or something similar should fix that.
can you tell me, why you replace original tensioner ?
That's awesome. Rocking your true blues while working on the bike :p
Brilliant video man!
Great video and music, thanks!
super, same problem...
Dude, you should have checked your valve clearances with a set of feeler gauges!!!? you were all the way disassembled and had the timing mark cover off and everything?!! oh well.
good shit mane. got mine in for my zx6 should be about the same (we'll find out tomorrow when I get under the tank). hitting the window with a rock... ain't that a bitch, I done that shit twice.
You make this look so easy. Lol
Sounds much better. :-D
Nice job man
What's the track at the start with the girl singing da, dada
I wonder if a 2007 GSX-R 600 has the chain tensioner in the same location, Anybody?
Many thanks for this VID
LoCashINC for a 06 gsxr that has a ape cam chain tensioner already and i just need to adjust it must i take off the valve cover as well? or just throtle body and air box???
No you can adjust it from the tensioner
good stuff.... thanks man..
nice job, nice song"
What's the song starting 13:00?
can I check with u, installing MCCT without cam cover off, I turned my APE mcct by fingers till it touched cam chain guide, but should we advance fwd 1/4 turn or back out 1/4 turn? It seems like the APE web is asking to back out , will this be loosening cam chain too much?
Nick Peh You back it out a quarter turn. It is called "splitting the difference"
Do u know how much cam chain will stretch when newly Installed? Usually at how many km?
Nick Peh You're the engineer....
Sorry not a bike engineer. .I work on aircraft system
+Nick Peh The reason for baking it out is to set tension at 0. ideally you want the cahin set with 0 tension on it AND zero free play. This set up will ensure long cam chain life.
wow! still sounds like a sewing machine!!!
nice 62 impala
can you tell me the name of the song with the lyrics california dreaming..... i want that track so bad
cali dreamin- kid ink
thank you
no problem i was looking for the song too i found it by coisidence!
Yeah at 20:51-21:00...you hear that whining...that means its overtight
I still have the auto one, it rattles cold, silent when warm. Made it click one by force, now it's silent cold, and whining warm. WTF
WOW Honda is way easier, Took me 20 minutes on my CBR 1000RR, I guess Honda planned ahead and put certain wearing parts in easy to reach places
Andrew Klaver Yamaha is way easier too. About the same amount of time :)
+Roller Bearing Crank I sense a troll...
Keep the stock one.. If you fuck this up you can fuck your engine up
spafro101 Stock ones are garbage and they can fuck your engine up. If you do this right, you're set for good. If you here the noise again, you just add some tension to the manual one...
Jimmy MX too much tension can be bad.. The original gives it more play.. Yea the noise sucks but it doesn't mean it's bad..
spafro101 Yes, too much is bad. Adhere to the directions and there is nothing bad about it. The noise doesn't just suck, it can potentially be catastrophic to an engine.
James Pyne I've never heard of a stock one fuckin up.
spafro101 There's a recall on them... How could you not of heard about that?
your doing too many extra things that you don't have to do....making it look harder to people wanting to know how to fix it,...
networkbits Would you care to elaborate on this, please? Do you suggest leaving the cam cover on and just adjust it by feeling the chain touching the guide?
+Tadas B You don't need to remove the valve cover. Set timing first to TDC.
Remove old CCT.
Install new manual CCT.
You screw in CCT until it stops. Next, while turning engine over by hand you screw CCT in until it stops once again. Do not over tighten. You just want to stop when you start feeling resistance. This removes all slack in cam chain. Chain is now slack free. Back off CCT bolt 1/8th turn, snug up and done. This will set the cam chain with 0 free play with 0 tension pushing on it and allow for thermal expansion.. You may have to tinker with it again in 15,000 km or more, and it will be a fine adjustment at most. What kills cam chains is the damn tension placed on them by the automatic tensioner spring. So even while bike is not running, you still get tension on the chain. With a manual CCT, you only get tension while engine is running. You made a simple job look horribly complicated.
However, I commend you for doing it yourself. Regardless of the unnecessary excess work involved, you did the job, and saved fucking ridiculous $$$ in labor rates.
Plus, you'll never have to worry about the CCT failing and killing your engine. And I don't care what brand of bike it is. ALL manual CCT are shit and will fail.
Lastly, i"m going to give you some advice. Go buy an inch pound torque wrench. Tighten ALL engine bolts to recommended torque settings. Steel bolts with aluminum bolts holes is a recipe for disaster. Using a ratchet is a sure fired way to strip bolt holes out, and trust me they are not an easy fix..I've been there and it fucking sucks.
Good vid and once again, good on you for doing it yourself.
Keep the rubber side down brother.
+GPz84 you said " Plus, you'll never have to worry about the CCT failing and killing your engine. And I don't care what brand of bike it is. ALL manual CCT are shit and will fail."
you meant to say auto CCT are shit and fail right?
So how do you know when cylinder one is at tdc? I know there is an A and B marking. Does it matter which stroke its on? Or just tdc period?
All the extra steps are to ensure it doesn't jump time by zip tying the chain to cam gear. I wonder how likely it is to jump time?
Jobs a good'n.
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Where is the torque wrench? U didn't use it :O. Sry dude, inferior work.. Bad tools, not enough information, bad engine sound. Sounds like many metal pieces inside.. My gsxr never sounds like this