I’ve found my young scots grow very high as 2-3 year olds. Lots of energy into height with the 1st year node super low. I do have lots of buds throughout for the spring so interested to see how those turn out
Nice to see you work on young Scots pines, which are so much more common as a native species in the West than the Japanese black pines (nice though they are). I think that the "double-flush-fever" overtakes some folks with bonsai.
I don't think I could say. I have about 100 scots pines growing out in 6" colanders, they seem to be about the same. Some are larger some smaller, but not a clear winner in terms of girth.
A whorl is where a group of branches all grow from the same area on the trunk. If left unchecked it will cause inverse taper in bonsai. It is very common in pines.
Well, these are really nice seedlings. Next year I will try to cut back my scots pines to possibly get some back budding. It should work if I cut the tips from the new growth. One year needless will keep the brunches alive and the new buds should appear. But anyway I need to bring some new seedlings and I must try to make them look more like yours :) So, possibly, after one year I will trim these back and hopefully I will get more brunches to work with.
Yes - for 1-3 year old red pines, the work would be nearly identical. When red pines are older you decandle them like black pines - where with Scots pines you use the spring bud-shortening technique like a Japanese white pine. Bjorn ( Eisei-en Bonsai )did a great video about the technique last year I think. ua-cam.com/video/wLdUpucs5uI/v-deo.html
Would these grow ok in Northern Florida? We still get a decent amount of chill hours and nights in the low 30s so I was thinking about giving them a try.
We're in Zone 10a and they do fine also. They are so widely spread across Europe and Asia that it seems like they can handle diverse conditions - another plus in terms of them being good bonsai. There is a range map on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_sylvestris
I am finding all your videos so helpful. I am jusst a begineer with growing Pines and am learning so much from your videos and very clear, detailed instruction. Thank you :-)
Perlite / Coco. But 60% perlite, 20% bark and 20% coco is my newer mix. Pumice would be fine rather than perlite as long as you wash/sift away as much dust/residue as possible.
Eric, Good topic and as usual an excellent presentation. There seem to be a lot of seed variety but little information on expected differences from trees from so many regions. I have some with very short needles. I think the seed source was Auvergne France, I find them very easy to bend with wire but it takes longer for the branch or trunk to hold its shape even after wire has grown into the bark. To me they seem more resistent to root rot than JBP. they do produce a lot of branches at nodes esp if pruned. I like growing them. I would love to find a source describing all the genetic variations. Scheffield's seed company must have seeds from 30 geographic areas of seed for pinus Sylvestris
60% perlite, 20% coco coir and 20% fir bark. I've been playing with more bark for pines to keep the pH lower. I may need to do another soil video soon...
I’ve found my young scots grow very high as 2-3 year olds. Lots of energy into height with the 1st year node super low. I do have lots of buds throughout for the spring so interested to see how those turn out
Nice to see you work on young Scots pines, which are so much more common as a native species in the West than the Japanese black pines (nice though they are). I think that the "double-flush-fever" overtakes some folks with bonsai.
Hi Eric, in your experience which pine develops a thicker trunk faster between the Scots and JBP?
I don't think I could say. I have about 100 scots pines growing out in 6" colanders, they seem to be about the same. Some are larger some smaller, but not a clear winner in terms of girth.
Whats a whorl?
A whorl is where a group of branches all grow from the same area on the trunk. If left unchecked it will cause inverse taper in bonsai. It is very common in pines.
@@GritCityBonsai Thank you, I fixed my spelling error. Excellent explanation.
Well, these are really nice seedlings. Next year I will try to cut back my scots pines to possibly get some back budding. It should work if I cut the tips from the new growth. One year needless will keep the brunches alive and the new buds should appear. But anyway I need to bring some new seedlings and I must try to make them look more like yours :) So, possibly, after one year I will trim these back and hopefully I will get more brunches to work with.
Great video as always. This will inspire me to try to grow some from seed. Happy New Year.
Would you do the same type of work on red pines?
Yes - for 1-3 year old red pines, the work would be nearly identical. When red pines are older you decandle them like black pines - where with Scots pines you use the spring bud-shortening technique like a Japanese white pine. Bjorn ( Eisei-en Bonsai )did a great video about the technique last year I think. ua-cam.com/video/wLdUpucs5uI/v-deo.html
Would these grow ok in Northern Florida? We still get a decent amount of chill hours and nights in the low 30s so I was thinking about giving them a try.
Zones 2-9, the USDA re-configured the zones recently: planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/ North Florida looks to be OK to try...
We're in Zone 10a and they do fine also. They are so widely spread across Europe and Asia that it seems like they can handle diverse conditions - another plus in terms of them being good bonsai. There is a range map on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_sylvestris
@@jkleczewski appreciate it!
@@Bonsaify Sounds good, will give them a try. Thanks!
Thanks Eric
Excellent video like always, Eric,very informative! Where can we buy those plastic grow bags? I've browsed your website and I didn't find them.
I've been getting them from leftcoastbonsai.com. I may start carrying them on the site in the future but John can help now.
I really enjoyed this video. Excellent information! Thanks!
I am finding all your videos so helpful. I am jusst a begineer with growing Pines and am learning so much from your videos and very clear, detailed instruction. Thank you :-)
What mix are you using in the grow bags it looks like bark and pumice?
Perlite / Coco. But 60% perlite, 20% bark and 20% coco is my newer mix. Pumice would be fine rather than perlite as long as you wash/sift away as much dust/residue as possible.
Eric,
Good topic and as usual an excellent presentation. There seem to be a lot of seed variety but little information on expected differences from trees from so many regions. I have some with very short needles. I think the seed source was Auvergne France, I find them very easy to bend with wire but it takes longer for the branch or trunk to hold its shape even after wire has grown into the bark. To me they seem more resistent to root rot than JBP. they do produce a lot of branches at nodes esp if pruned. I like growing them. I would love to find a source describing all the genetic variations. Scheffield's seed company must have seeds from 30 geographic areas of seed for
pinus Sylvestris
Hope you have a shapely and prosperous new year ERIC.
Hi, how scots pines react on such hard root pruning?
Nice one Eric keep up the great work thanks
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What soil mix did you use for the grow bags ?
60% perlite, 20% coco coir and 20% fir bark. I've been playing with more bark for pines to keep the pH lower. I may need to do another soil video soon...
@@Bonsaify great thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly, I really appreciate it