I don't think anyone has measured the actual tractive effort for that particular pair of Dash 9s, but the two units weigh around 1600 pounds. It has a 16 or 18 HP Briggs & Stratton V-Twin prime mover, and all 12 axles are driven. The real concern is not what can you pull, but rather what can you STOP!
Guessing the total weight would would be pure speculation. The cars weigh anywhere from 100 pounds each, up to several hundred pounds. Just the trucks and couplers with a minimum frame are close to 100 pounds. The weight could fall in the range of anywhere from 7000 pounds to 27000 pounds, depending on if the cars are empty or loaded.
The two Dash 9 units were build by Mountain Car well over 10 years ago. I do remember that it had a 16 HP Briggs& Stratton Vanguard as the prime mover, and a hydro static drive system.
Hello, I don't know a whole lot about this type of "railroading" if that's the right way to put it, But I was wonder if you put a Gas (or diesel) engine driving a generator to make electricity for a small DC or AC motor(s) driving a chain to the three axles of one truck (each truck has one motor), would that work? I was thinking about having a company or me and some friends build two 1/8th scale AC6000CW's. If you have any comments I please let me know? (I'm still in the designing and planning stage) Thanks and love the video Tom!!
Yes, you could do it the way you describe. However, I do not know of anyone using a gas generator. The more common method if you want to stay all electric is to just use high capacity batteries with a controller and motors and chains as you describe. The most common system here is a gas or diesel engine driving a hydraulic system. The hydraulic motors are used in the same manner as you describe using electric motors at each truck. The best in my opinion is zero turn lawnmower technology, which is hydrostatic drive.
I never thought of that, using Zero turn. The only reason why I would like the way I thought of is you can run the two locomotives "lash up(butt to butt)", "elephant style (butt to front)", and my favorite long hood forward to front. I will be doing more research before I make up my mind. Thank you for the information and have yourself a happy new years.
Ryan Hatterer To hook two or more locomotive units together, you simply run hydraulic lines to the additional units. The more motors, the larger the hydraulic pump needed. Google "Surplus Center" for parts.
Ryan Hatterer You can do the same thing with electric. It has only been in the recent past that the controllers and other parts available for electrical have improved to the state that they are now becoming more popular. Check out tunetrains(dot)com. Steve does really nice work. He does all his testing at Train Mountain. If you haven't been to the Train Mountain website, check out tmrr(dot)org. UA-cam doesn't allow me to put an actual URL, but you can figure those out.
At 7:17 It's so cool how they use a regular sized railroad crossing for a miniature train
I think drivers would ignore anything other than full sized signals!
That was quite impressive!
Now it’s time to add DPU’s to the mix haha.
Lol true
Man I love these trains. They are so realistic and the closest most of us will ever get to a real train.
I love to small toy trains in from to own childhood time.
I had no idea models of this scale could pull that many cars. Just how much tractive effort doe this lash-up have?
I don't think anyone has measured the actual tractive effort for that particular pair of Dash 9s, but the two units weigh around 1600 pounds. It has a 16 or 18 HP Briggs & Stratton V-Twin prime mover, and all 12 axles are driven. The real concern is not what can you pull, but rather what can you STOP!
@@twatson703 , I never thought about stopping , but yeah, you're right.
@@twatson703 1600 pounds just the locomotives! I'm curious, how much do you reckon the whole consist could weigh?
Guessing the total weight would would be pure speculation. The cars weigh anywhere from 100 pounds each, up to several hundred pounds. Just the trucks and couplers with a minimum frame are close to 100 pounds. The weight could fall in the range of anywhere from 7000 pounds to 27000 pounds, depending on if the cars are empty or loaded.
Is there any way possible I can go to this Train 🚂 Park wearing my Godzilla outfit and destroy everything???
Sometimes Big Foot shows up at Halloween, but he doesn't destroy anything. He just likes to scare people.
Any way to get info on the engine build….motor gears etc. ?
The two Dash 9 units were build by Mountain Car well over 10 years ago. I do remember that it had a 16 HP Briggs& Stratton Vanguard as the prime mover, and a hydro static drive system.
Hello, I don't know a whole lot about this type of "railroading" if that's the right way to put it, But I was wonder if you put a Gas (or diesel) engine driving a generator to make electricity for a small DC or AC motor(s) driving a chain to the three axles of one truck (each truck has one motor), would that work? I was thinking about having a company or me and some friends build two 1/8th scale AC6000CW's. If you have any comments I please let me know? (I'm still in the designing and planning stage) Thanks and love the video Tom!!
Yes, you could do it the way you describe. However, I do not know of anyone using a gas generator. The more common method if you want to stay all electric is to just use high capacity batteries with a controller and motors and chains as you describe. The most common system here is a gas or diesel engine driving a hydraulic system. The hydraulic motors are used in the same manner as you describe using electric motors at each truck. The best in my opinion is zero turn lawnmower technology, which is hydrostatic drive.
I never thought of that, using Zero turn. The only reason why I would like the way I thought of is you can run the two locomotives "lash up(butt to butt)", "elephant style (butt to front)", and my favorite long hood forward to front. I will be doing more research before I make up my mind. Thank you for the information and have yourself a happy new years.
Ryan Hatterer
To hook two or more locomotive units together, you simply run hydraulic lines to the additional units. The more motors, the larger the hydraulic pump needed. Google "Surplus Center" for parts.
Okay so your making a Mother and slug with hydro power, not electrical. Wow, I always thought you guys use electric to power the slugs.
Ryan Hatterer
You can do the same thing with electric. It has only been in the recent past that the controllers and other parts available for electrical have improved to the state that they are now becoming more popular. Check out tunetrains(dot)com. Steve does really nice work. He does all his testing at Train Mountain. If you haven't been to the Train Mountain website, check out tmrr(dot)org. UA-cam doesn't allow me to put an actual URL, but you can figure those out.
Wow!
The dude standing up on the Bulkhead flatcar is unsafe. It is unreasonable risk to his personal safety.
You are correct, but boys will be boys no matter what their age. This is why we are constantly promoting safety.
Mother hen lighting up, the train is going 5 mph.
Mbah Rejo
Uhm, I don't think that one guy was wearing his seat belt, lol.
Probably because he might want to jump!
Now it’s time to add DPU’s to the mix haha.