Something I’ve always found interesting is how Skypeia uses a different currency. Similarly, Wano has a different term for haki. Makes you wonder how/why these things changed throughout the world…
@@KayDSavage-dy6ofof course, although it’s interesting how you don’t find widespread differences (as would be the case with migration). Only uncontacted pockets throughout the world bear these differences. A remnant from the void century perhaps..
@@That_One_Guy... Yes but in the world of One Piece, even disparate cultures share the Berry system (eg. non-WG affiliated nations in the New World). It's only those who have avoided the WG for the last 800 years who seem to have these notable differences.
11:26 Shanks is NEVER beating the "Haki Sorcerer" allegations lol ty for another deep analysis Luna, hearing theories with the native Japanese perspective in mind makes understanding One Piece in its entirety better.
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Luna-san, I just noticed that whenever you say the name "Saturn", with your Japanese accent, it sounds like the word for Satan in Spanish, "Satán". I wonder if that's one more ambiguity purposely left by Oda-san. This also brings back a thought that I had some years ago, that, due to many of Robin's moves being worded in Spanish, perhaps Spanish is the spoken language of the Poneglyph's writings? I think It would be awesome if English, Spanish, French, etc. were important languages spoken by the people that were eradicated in the Void Century, and now the whole world only speaks in Japanese because it's the "winners" official language.
This is because Satan IS Saturn (Planet& Mythological Figure), as in Satan = Saturn due to many etymology-based connections. This is also why Saint Saturn appears to look very Jewish, because it's been long speculated that the god of the Jewish faith is indeed Saturn, the planet. I can explain in deeper detail if requested. (Oda is a very adept researcher and I assume he came across the data about these connections as well. He even goes as far as having Saturn's demon form being the bull, a symbology constantly associated with the planet Saturn/Satan.) Furthermore, the pronunciation of Saturn in Japanese Katakana (サターン, Satān) is "Satan", if @AJapaneseTranslator could confirm for me that would be great. "Lucifer" (a whole different deity) is associated with the planet Venus, both being the Evening star OR Morning Star, one of the two depending on which culture you ask. Many religions and myths were based around the worship and observations of celestial bodies, the Syncretism religions that are the Abrahamic Faiths are no different. (Christianity, Judaism, etc.)
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 no this is pretty well documented and out there if you want to research it, well specifically about most religions just being watered down celestial body worship. There are cults of Venus, cults of the sun, cults of Saturn, etc.
Thank you nakama 🫡🙏✌️✨ Your channel(s), with every new video, never fails to bring something fresh, new and interesting to the One Piece community. It's like every time I watch one of your videos you take me on an adventure and I forget about all my daily troubles 🙏✊
Yesterday I watched the One Piece movie Onslaught again, which fights against Douglas Bullet. And I noticed that when Luffy sees Franky dressed as a gladiator, the next scene shows a stop with several things, helmets like a giant and 4 statues of different colors and sizes. When Luffy wears the golden giant helmet he carries one of the statues, and when Trafalgar Law teleports to the ship he exchanges himself for that statue. I thought the 4 meant something and I think it means the 4 gods.
Hey LunaPien/DawnDusk! I have a question, if you find it interesting enough could you make a video about the One Piece Art NUE from a native perspective? I find it fascinating, especially the mythology/stories behind the Nue. Thanks in advance and i love the work!
exactly. a lot of people are coming up with theories that imu and lily had some type of relationship but I just don't see imu taking over the world because of a woman...there's never been that type of theme in this story..unless you wanna count enies lobby but even then there was soo much more to that arc than saving robin.
Thank god, I’m not the only one who thinks this way. Imu’s main plans and what they want with Vivi are still unknown, but I don’t think it’s out of “love” for someone from the past. They seem more like a psychopath with obsessive tendencies (over control I guess).
@@WheatDos I don’t really consider that love. Possession yes, but possession =/= to love. That’s why many people fall into abusive relationships cuz they mistake possessive and jealous behavior as an act of love
Had a thought: Brooke will fight Nasjuro. We already saw Zoro and him clash. And Zoro didnt look like he was in any trouble blocking him. Just his normal grim determination. But sword vs sword, ice vs ice. Grim, dead thing hiding inside a skin suit vs joyous, living, boisterous Brooke. Who, despite not having skin, is very alive? Yeah, I know. But I really dont think a fight between him and Zoro would be interesting.
Cant agree, makes no sense. You trying to hype gorosei as super strong characters and you make them fight brook? Brook/nami/ussop at this point are just weaklings that can take smaller characters or can fight in group, One piece already proven not being a boring shonen where each character has to fight another character every arc. So no reason for Brook to match someone like Nasjuro directly. Oda only selects a few more important now for big fights, and the others tend to help like i said in groups, and the idea of each character matching another because their power are similar, or the old idea of 10 nakamas vs 10 blackboard pirates is for me so old fashion and out of touch of how Oda likes to write. So i cant see that happening, if brook is 50/50 with Nasjuro, that makes the power creep of One piece completely fucked up. Like what is the reasoning for a normal level character, not even top 50 characters all of the sudden being fighting the gorosei that were presented as BEASTS, absurd beasts that even Luffy says they don't see to take damage. And lets remember 5 mugiawara were against SAturn ad they did 0, so why all of the sudden Brook can fight one of them alone?
@@TheKrenko trying to hype...huh? I'm talking thematically. I could give a shit about any power scaling and this entirely seems like an argument about power scaling. Ok, sure, I don't disagree that Zoro makes more sense from a view of only comparing combat prowess. But that's boring and not nearly as interesting as examining thematic parallels and such.
@@radaro.9682 "you" as in the story/Oda. They are trying to Hype Gorosei as strong, so fighting against brook wouldn't make much sense power wise. I understand the idea of both being connected to Ice and underworld/after death, but in this specific case i cant agree, because the power creep is just too huge to make sense for them to be able to compete. It would damage the narrative of them being so absurdly strong. Like i said, i think Brook at this point is mostly a character that will help in specific moments, just like he did with Robin vs Maria, so he might help, but he wouldn't 1vs1 someone like Gorosei. It would damage the story on the long run, because it would make look like all strawhats can achieve super high powers, instead of being more realistic with the idea that at this point, their character development is based in story and narrative more than it is based on fighting, and of course they are a lot of the comedy with stupid jokes aswell.
It wasnt zoro who blocked him Nusjuro blocked zoro and zoro went in with the momentum of getting thrown by jimbej Atlas sacrificed himself while zoro was still there Its pretty clear that currently zoro would not win against nusjuro
@@KeinProblem-uv5jh And if Nas hadn't blocked he'd have been hit. He cared enough about Zoro's attack he disengaged with his target and blocked. Zoro was about to prevent him from getting to his intended target whichever one actually "blocked" in a fighting sense. But blocking in the sense that I meant it originally would be more literally described as "Nas attacking Sunny, Jinbe launching Zoro and Nas, Nas breaking off attack to block, Atlas using the opening made by Zoro to detonate into Nas." If the sequence of events is off my original point of preventing Nas from reaching the Sunny still holds. It wasn't "Oh shit I gotta save them" it was "Another day at the office". Are they in a position to defeat the elders now? No, they still have to figure out how to do permanent damage. But the nitty gritty of trading blows is much more even than it looks. It's their stamina/immortality that makes them an issue, as we've seen them "killed" up to and including decapitation only to come back. It's Luffy's greatest strength turned on him.
hey, I love your videos and shanks that you do this for everyone who doesnt speak japanese! I have a theory but I don't know if there are any hints in the japanese version: What if the Roger Pirates went to different key positions on the main route to Laughtale after the Roger Pirates seperated? And everyone got different tasks from Roger on the journey of "future Joyboy" to test/train/help him Shanks at the Island where Rogers son was raised (because Roger maybe thougth Ace would be the new Joyboy?) - to wake his dreams of becoming a pirate and give him the "Gomu Gomu no mi", maybe thats why he didnt wanna take Luffy with em? Buggy at East Blue - 1st "bigger" enemy to overcome Crocus after Reverse Mountain - 1st step into the Grandline Rayleigh at Sabaody - 2nd big step on the Grandline, right before the New World Nekomamushi and Inuarashi - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs Someone I dont know yet on or near Totoland - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs *edit mabye stussy? Oden if he would have survived at Wano - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs Mr Momora throughout the whole journey - i think he is Big News Morgans - he always wore an ablatroz hat - hes there to tell the world about the journey of Joyboy maybe there are even more, but we dont know a lot more about the Rogers pirates than about these ones.. Everyone was waiting for Ace, but met Luffy instead without even knowing he's the one they were reading about on Laugthale Luffy just met all of them by "accident" and won over their hearts because he is the real Joyboy, not the one Roger was planning for
That’s exactly what happened because after they departed from all these people they always said maybe he’s the one we’ve been waiting for huh Roger.. they knew he was coming sharley predicted it and the sea kings they just waited… the Roger pirates know everything.. even the flood.. shanks no devil fruit crocus lives in a whale.. Rayleigh coats ships.. it’s all a plan..
@@nomongosinthaworld well we didnt even know about how much roger and his crew knew about the void century or whats really gonna happen with the new joyboy until the last few chapters and acutally we still dont know alot... And nowhere did anyone say those people were there for the purpose of helping to find joyboy, so its just a theory.. crocus was there because of laboon, rayleigh because his wife has a bar there, buggy just seemed like a crazy villain, i think i never heard about the big news morgans connection anywhere and nobody knew why shanks was in luffys hometown, even that hes there to bring the gomu gomu to ace is still only a theory, nobody confirmed it yet so it is either coincidence that all those people happende to be there or it was planned all along
Everyone should have known this... law literally showed it already. Conquers will also be how they damage them permanently. It over rides the immortal surgery part
@@dweblinveltz5035 That's true, but a basic G5 punch is not comparable to a deliberate acoc attack, like even the gorosei had emphasize on their black bolds. But yeah, it's most definitely not that simple
I think gorosei just found some strange looking red eggs and transformed in a moment of their dreams shattering. Straw hat is means of protection that got Roger and Shanks to where they are. You may call it armor passed down from a king who lived 1000 years ago. I hope Shanks doesn't try to hit Imu with his sword cause we know where that's gonna end... Are we just watching Berserk for kids?
Going by this maybe imu is the other ancient weapon people speculate about and most likely the national treasure of marijoise if its not the strawhat. If he can command yokai in the same manner as momo and shira
Oh my god the last part of the video made me realize something - saturn attacks were invisible like when sanji got hit but it reminded me of madara limbo technique it could be the same thing and they need to both die at the same time or could be just like what the channel owner said imu needs to die at the same time
I have heard many One Piece UA-camr’s, including yourself, bring up that in the Japanese culture there is a belief that all ‘things’ have a soul. Is this still a belief widely held in Japan today? I find, if true, this aspect of Japanese culture to be romantic! If many of us Westerners’ felt this sentimental about the objects we own and surround ourselves by. I believe our greedy hearts and minds would be all the richer for it!!! There are some Americans who have sentimentality and respect for our vehicles though! As a young man, maintaining my vehicle is ritualistic.
One thing I am curios about is the differing colors of the cloud rings (Hoguromos?) that some ability users have such as Luffy, Yamato, Lucci, and the goresei. Are there important implications with the colors or is just a style choice by Oda-sensei? So far only those affiliated with the world government have had the black cloud rings and I am wondering if that is important.
In my opinion, Imu has (infinitely) many faces. Its true form is a black blob (which already is, somehow) than can turn into almost anything. A sort of "negative" version of Nika. The One Piece is going to be a pencil. The forces that make the plot are three: the ink (Imu), which corrupted the world; the rubber (Rufy), that is going to cancel Imu; the pencil (One Piece) that is going to rewrite history of humanity from the start, in the new era.
I add a note: in Japanese "Ink" is spelled "Sumi", which read backwards is "Imus". Moreover Imu Sama looks like as a fountain pen (its top looks like a crown!)
Like you said,, I guess the only reason Saturn was left behind was because he travelled there physically by himself whereas others were summoned. Things are coming together slowly. 🤯
I haven't seen anyone who has noticed the fact that Emeth has the height, horns, head shape, large and round chest, thin and small feathers, exactly as an Oars would be if he were wearing iron armor or if he were transformed into a cyborg, Emeth could be a transformed Oars...
It's been stated since Thriller Bark Arc that the ancient giants of the past were Oni Giants like Oars and his race, not the Elbaf giants. Emeth was probably an Oni Giant at some point. Also, Kaido was a descendant of those giants. This is why King thought Kaido was Joyboy.
mista luna can u write down the list of ost's u use in this video and dawn and dusk videos? it will be awesome i always enjoy hearing them but i dont know where they are from
@@Radi0actvChickn thanks it sounds a bit different im guessing the youtuber is using a lofi version or something by any chance do you know what ost is being used in the first minute?
thanks Luna! there are 2 things that i want to ask you if these cases are possible to explain in your upcoming video.. why elders can 'walk' on the water? even saturn survived from drowning into the sea.. why saturn was still there in egghead while others went back to mariejoa?
Idk about the rest, but regarding Saturn people say it's because he was the only one that was with his body (on the marine ships) actually on egghead, while the others were "summoned"
Oda seems to repeat the same themes within an arc, and a big Egghead theme is what constitutes life and beings staying true to their nature even when they die or lose free will. I think the Gorosei serve Imu against their will. With the connections you made re them and the sea kings, Zunesha I wonder if they were allies of Joy Boy in the past. Or at least their bodies were.
I neverr see anyone make the, in my opinion, super obvious connection between Imu and it spelled backwards Umi(sea). The sea seems to be the underlying theme behind the whole story. Its the sea that nullifies df powers and the sea that will wash away the world.
All signs are pointing to the fact that Joy Boy Luffy and the house of D are all Immortal Dragons. Maybe D clan was the original rulers of the world or monarchs.
I wanted to know what Smoker had to do with MHA but that it’s that Horikoshi sending in a drawing of Smoker as a kid and then Oda recreated it? That's awesome! (And the Horikoshi image is in volume 23). I love the Joy Boy is dressed like God Valley Roger. I think that’s what we were all expecting but it’s nice to have confirmation. And while it does look like Joy Boy's right arm is a hook and right leg is a peg, I'm more inclined to think it's just a weird perspective. There's only one character with a peg leg and that's Zeff. There's only one character with a hook and that's Crocodile. We are still missing someone with an eyepatch and I do think that Joy Boy. But Joy Boy having a peg leg, eyepatch, and hook, seems excessive, even for Oda. I would be more inclined to think he has all three though Oda does introduce someone else with an eyepatch. Then there will be three characters, one with each and the one character with all three. While Oda may have now killed the theory that Joy Boy was a giant, I don’t think it necessarily rules out that Joy Boy was a Buccaneer. Unless I’m getting my scales wrong here. I think we also got confirmation here that Imu and the Five Elders are actually connected. And Emeth having the Arabasta “X” is also really awesome and a nice callback.
Genuine question: does that face seem more like a man or a woman? Because that face has a very thin nose and in One Piece usually it's only females that have that kind of nose like robin or hancock
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Regarding the Imu hat thing I just think Imu is tiny Like small and the hat regular size Also I have a really long theory about the ancient war but no one wants to hear it and I think Imu is a tiny monkey Humanoid. I still think especially after 1122 that Joy Boy was a Monkey type Humanoid creature. (Golden Bell/ Lunar Pirates/ Emmeth first thinking its JoyBoy but on closer look he doesn't see a Monkey but a human with white hair and white clouds etc) Oda just doesn't show us yet because the wackiness and sillyness needs to be revealed while also being epic so we either see full joy boy at laugh tale or if someone tells of him in a flashback
the only thing i dont understand is if the elders are so old and have trained some time to get that next level haki. why are they so weak in actual combat?
Are there any clear images of the magic circle used by the Elders? I am wondering if it can be decoded somehow. Which also makes me curious, can the poneglyphs be deciphered by our world, or is the ancient language just artistic? On an unrelated note, but only because they are mentioned, I have recently been curious about the names or identities of the 6 sea kings who saved Fishman Island from Noah when Shirahoshi called them. They can speak, and with such size have probably been alive a long time. Obviously nothing is known yet, but I wonder if Japanese readers have tried giving them nicknames. I came up with some nicknames for them since they are otherwise nameless: Flamingoodle, Zebraman, Toothy, Frogface, Bigjaw, Bottomshark.
I always had this belief that Imu was a woman, and the more the story unfolds I believe she was perhaps even JoyBoys wife aka "the queen of queens" to the king of kings, Joy Boy. Until things went south for Joy boy and became the pirate king. Perhaps with her help as well joy Boy was then taken down as he became out of control which she may or may not regret but yeah that means she is probably immortal through science or a devil fruit. One Piece has always been a romance story, don't forget that ;)
@@dagan_origin I believe Joyboy was at one point the "king" of kings but he wanted to be even more free which only left him to go for the most free of all all Kings the Pirate King. That probably didn't go down so well with the other forces who formed an alliance to take him down. And as we perhaps are learning there was many betrayals to prevent him from becoming the Pirate King which then lived on as his will.
When fan translations first came out about Clover's full name i was excited because they said his name was Claíomh D. Clover. Claíomh (pronounced clee-iv) is an Irish word meaning sword. Im irish and thought it was cool to finally understand the deeper meaning. You must feel that way all the time. But it turns out his name is actually Clou D. Clover
Great vid! let me preface by saying this : we're not entitled to anything and I don't want you to think I'm asking you to do more work, it would be super rude ! But I've been curious since Wano started in the manga/anime : I'm sure there's a lot of samurai movie/litterature (aside from Rakugo) references in Wano (as for japanese historical references most have been spotted I think), we, foreign fans would be super curious about that, but I guess that is a LOT of work😅 but maybe such topics have been a talking subject amongst readers on BBS/SNS, I don't know. (new viewer here, bikkuri shita, jozu eigo hanasemasu!)
Unproved theory with no substance and I’ve hated the discourse about it. The way the gorosei speak implies it was probably Shanks but it’s lost in translation. Also, we don’t actually see anything to do with the appearance of the supposed Figarland/gods knight figure in 1121.
@@ldptdogbone9334I wouldn't rule it out at all to not think Figarland would have another son and that Oda would make him look like shanks especially if twins separated at birth it seems like a very Oda thing to add that kind of important character so late in the game
What do you think Rocks D Xebec? Is he descendants from ancient kingdom? He was said to broken may taboos, how deep is his knowledge of the void century secret if any? Joyboy wanted to be a king as mentioned by Emeth. Is it king of pirate or king of the world? Rocks D Xebec wanted to be king of the world, could Joyboy too have that ambition? There is not much details about Rocks D Xebec. We know Rocks pirate came to God Valley to take back the treasure that the World Government stole from Hachinosu island. Big Mom says in one of the manag panel, "let's just steal what we're after and scram". I assume she's talking about the treasure. In another one of the chat bubbles "i assume finders keepers", "they'll be mine!". All this point to the treasure. It seems like Rocks pirates are fighting among themselves for the treasure. It is also why Rocks pirates are defeated because they are individual and no teamwork. I'm sure they don't fight at all at God Valley. They run away after hearing of Xebec defeat. None of them have scars from the incident. In the manga panel of Rocks pirate, only Rocks D Xebec is not in the panel, we can see everyone from the pirate crew except Xebec himself. It means he wandered off on his own and then he fought Roger and Garp 1v2. Roger has the highest pirate bounty in history, but that's only because Xebec existence was erased off history by the World Government. I'm sure Xebec is a very strong individual given that it took Garp and Roger to team up against him. Another thing is that, the one that found the treasure that World Government stole was Roger pirates. The World Government or mysterious individual had cunningly swap the treasure and put a baby inside it. That baby was Shanks. Roger pirates open the treasure box and was surprised to see a baby inside it. The real treasure is probably the Nika devil fruit. Shanks and his crew stole it back from the World Government. This is only my assumption.
I have a feeling that Straw Hat & others will have a battle royale at Lodestar/Laughtale and Morgans will be the host so that the audience around the world can see what's happening, just like Dressrosa arc.
Everyone's acting like he didn't put a can on his head 🤣
Damn, I assume you wrote this before chapter 1122, you were really close to what really happened
lmao bro! check my comment hahaha
Something I’ve always found interesting is how Skypeia uses a different currency. Similarly, Wano has a different term for haki. Makes you wonder how/why these things changed throughout the world…
the same reason they change in our own world...migration. people move and take their culture with them mixing in with others creates that.
@@KayDSavage-dy6ofof course, although it’s interesting how you don’t find widespread differences (as would be the case with migration). Only uncontacted pockets throughout the world bear these differences. A remnant from the void century perhaps..
That's called culture difference, and it exist in real world too
@@That_One_Guy... Yes but in the world of One Piece, even disparate cultures share the Berry system (eg. non-WG affiliated nations in the New World). It's only those who have avoided the WG for the last 800 years who seem to have these notable differences.
@@Polystorianjust like real life then. nothing weird about it.
Imu having a Buddha like appearance while having a Devil like transformation would be the greatest contrast in fiction
11:26 Shanks is NEVER beating the "Haki Sorcerer" allegations lol
ty for another deep analysis Luna, hearing theories with the native Japanese perspective in mind makes understanding One Piece in its entirety better.
that hyper zone at the beginning of the video has me dying of laughter
so youre going to tell me that no one else noticed the can of soda he had on his head the first 10 seconds? lol
This man deserves a huge following!
Hello from Texas! Dawn and dusk I love your videos and this being your 2nd channel Is amazing I've seen just about all the videos they're always a joy to watch 👍. I'm happy to see this channel
Luna-san, I just noticed that whenever you say the name "Saturn", with your Japanese accent, it sounds like the word for Satan in Spanish, "Satán". I wonder if that's one more ambiguity purposely left by Oda-san.
This also brings back a thought that I had some years ago, that, due to many of Robin's moves being worded in Spanish, perhaps Spanish is the spoken language of the Poneglyph's writings?
I think It would be awesome if English, Spanish, French, etc. were important languages spoken by the people that were eradicated in the Void Century, and now the whole world only speaks in Japanese because it's the "winners" official language.
as a native spanish speaker, it doesn't sound like it
@@ilovehelldivers5317 as a spanish native speaker the way japanese people say Saturn is very satan-like
This is because Satan IS Saturn (Planet& Mythological Figure), as in Satan = Saturn due to many etymology-based connections. This is also why Saint Saturn appears to look very Jewish, because it's been long speculated that the god of the Jewish faith is indeed Saturn, the planet. I can explain in deeper detail if requested. (Oda is a very adept researcher and I assume he came across the data about these connections as well. He even goes as far as having Saturn's demon form being the bull, a symbology constantly associated with the planet Saturn/Satan.)
Furthermore, the pronunciation of Saturn in Japanese Katakana (サターン, Satān) is "Satan", if @AJapaneseTranslator could confirm for me that would be great.
"Lucifer" (a whole different deity) is associated with the planet Venus, both being the Evening star OR Morning Star, one of the two depending on which culture you ask. Many religions and myths were based around the worship and observations of celestial bodies, the Syncretism religions that are the Abrahamic Faiths are no different. (Christianity, Judaism, etc.)
U r reaching rn
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 no this is pretty well documented and out there if you want to research it, well specifically about most religions just being watered down celestial body worship. There are cults of Venus, cults of the sun, cults of Saturn, etc.
Thank you nakama 🫡🙏✌️✨
Your channel(s), with every new video, never fails to bring something fresh, new and interesting to the One Piece community.
It's like every time I watch one of your videos you take me on an adventure and I forget about all my daily troubles 🙏✊
Agreed! It also feels like I’m getting the inside scoop of One Piece ;)
I think Imu is a snail! You heard it here first! LOL
& he’s getting revenge for all of the transponder snails lol
@@daleatsoverton9542 yess. In the end all the snails will unite and go to laughtale.
Yesterday I watched the One Piece movie Onslaught again, which fights against Douglas Bullet.
And I noticed that when Luffy sees Franky dressed as a gladiator, the next scene shows a stop with several things, helmets like a giant and 4 statues of different colors and sizes.
When Luffy wears the golden giant helmet he carries one of the statues, and when Trafalgar Law teleports to the ship he exchanges himself for that statue. I thought the 4 meant something and I think it means the 4 gods.
And the statue looks like the golden face of the Enel ship.
Hey LunaPien/DawnDusk! I have a question, if you find it interesting enough could you make a video about the One Piece Art NUE from a native perspective? I find it fascinating, especially the mythology/stories behind the Nue. Thanks in advance and i love the work!
And lots of people are talking about it right now because the human with the NUE fruit resembles the shadow figure at the end of 1121.
You’re always spot on. Great video as always. Glad I found the secret channel
imu doesn't strike me as the type that has loved ones or even cares.
exactly. a lot of people are coming up with theories that imu and lily had some type of relationship but I just don't see imu taking over the world because of a woman...there's never been that type of theme in this story..unless you wanna count enies lobby but even then there was soo much more to that arc than saving robin.
Thank god, I’m not the only one who thinks this way.
Imu’s main plans and what they want with Vivi are still unknown, but I don’t think it’s out of “love” for someone from the past. They seem more like a psychopath with obsessive tendencies (over control I guess).
It may be "love" like "I need to have him/her!"
Possession rather than Affection.
@@WheatDos I don’t really consider that love. Possession yes, but possession =/= to love. That’s why many people fall into abusive relationships cuz they mistake possessive and jealous behavior as an act of love
@@lazystargazer It's not about being love, it's about if IMU thinks it's love.
Had a thought: Brooke will fight Nasjuro. We already saw Zoro and him clash. And Zoro didnt look like he was in any trouble blocking him. Just his normal grim determination.
But sword vs sword, ice vs ice. Grim, dead thing hiding inside a skin suit vs joyous, living, boisterous Brooke. Who, despite not having skin, is very alive? Yeah, I know. But I really dont think a fight between him and Zoro would be interesting.
Cant agree, makes no sense. You trying to hype gorosei as super strong characters and you make them fight brook? Brook/nami/ussop at this point are just weaklings that can take smaller characters or can fight in group, One piece already proven not being a boring shonen where each character has to fight another character every arc. So no reason for Brook to match someone like Nasjuro directly. Oda only selects a few more important now for big fights, and the others tend to help like i said in groups, and the idea of each character matching another because their power are similar, or the old idea of 10 nakamas vs 10 blackboard pirates is for me so old fashion and out of touch of how Oda likes to write.
So i cant see that happening, if brook is 50/50 with Nasjuro, that makes the power creep of One piece completely fucked up. Like what is the reasoning for a normal level character, not even top 50 characters all of the sudden being fighting the gorosei that were presented as BEASTS, absurd beasts that even Luffy says they don't see to take damage. And lets remember 5 mugiawara were against SAturn ad they did 0, so why all of the sudden Brook can fight one of them alone?
@@TheKrenko trying to hype...huh? I'm talking thematically. I could give a shit about any power scaling and this entirely seems like an argument about power scaling. Ok, sure, I don't disagree that Zoro makes more sense from a view of only comparing combat prowess. But that's boring and not nearly as interesting as examining thematic parallels and such.
@@radaro.9682 "you" as in the story/Oda. They are trying to Hype Gorosei as strong, so fighting against brook wouldn't make much sense power wise.
I understand the idea of both being connected to Ice and underworld/after death, but in this specific case i cant agree, because the power creep is just too huge to make sense for them to be able to compete. It would damage the narrative of them being so absurdly strong.
Like i said, i think Brook at this point is mostly a character that will help in specific moments, just like he did with Robin vs Maria, so he might help, but he wouldn't 1vs1 someone like Gorosei. It would damage the story on the long run, because it would make look like all strawhats can achieve super high powers, instead of being more realistic with the idea that at this point, their character development is based in story and narrative more than it is based on fighting, and of course they are a lot of the comedy with stupid jokes aswell.
It wasnt zoro who blocked him
Nusjuro blocked zoro and zoro went in with the momentum of getting thrown by jimbej
Atlas sacrificed himself while zoro was still there
Its pretty clear that currently zoro would not win against nusjuro
@@KeinProblem-uv5jh And if Nas hadn't blocked he'd have been hit. He cared enough about Zoro's attack he disengaged with his target and blocked. Zoro was about to prevent him from getting to his intended target whichever one actually "blocked" in a fighting sense.
But blocking in the sense that I meant it originally would be more literally described as "Nas attacking Sunny, Jinbe launching Zoro and Nas, Nas breaking off attack to block, Atlas using the opening made by Zoro to detonate into Nas." If the sequence of events is off my original point of preventing Nas from reaching the Sunny still holds.
It wasn't "Oh shit I gotta save them" it was "Another day at the office". Are they in a position to defeat the elders now? No, they still have to figure out how to do permanent damage. But the nitty gritty of trading blows is much more even than it looks. It's their stamina/immortality that makes them an issue, as we've seen them "killed" up to and including decapitation only to come back. It's Luffy's greatest strength turned on him.
hey, I love your videos and shanks that you do this for everyone who doesnt speak japanese!
I have a theory but I don't know if there are any hints in the japanese version:
What if the Roger Pirates went to different key positions on the main route to Laughtale after the Roger Pirates seperated? And everyone got different tasks from Roger on the journey of "future Joyboy" to test/train/help him
Shanks at the Island where Rogers son was raised (because Roger maybe thougth Ace would be the new Joyboy?) - to wake his dreams of becoming a pirate and give him the "Gomu Gomu no mi", maybe thats why he didnt wanna take Luffy with em?
Buggy at East Blue - 1st "bigger" enemy to overcome
Crocus after Reverse Mountain - 1st step into the Grandline
Rayleigh at Sabaody - 2nd big step on the Grandline, right before the New World
Nekomamushi and Inuarashi - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs
Someone I dont know yet on or near Totoland - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs *edit mabye stussy?
Oden if he would have survived at Wano - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs
Mr Momora throughout the whole journey - i think he is Big News Morgans - he always wore an ablatroz hat - hes there to tell the world about the journey of Joyboy
maybe there are even more, but we dont know a lot more about the Rogers pirates than about these ones..
Everyone was waiting for Ace, but met Luffy instead without even knowing he's the one they were reading about on Laugthale
Luffy just met all of them by "accident" and won over their hearts because he is the real Joyboy, not the one Roger was planning for
That’s exactly what happened because after they departed from all these people they always said maybe he’s the one we’ve been waiting for huh Roger.. they knew he was coming sharley predicted it and the sea kings they just waited… the Roger pirates know everything.. even the flood.. shanks no devil fruit crocus lives in a whale.. Rayleigh coats ships.. it’s all a plan..
This isn’t even a theory, the story pretty much confirms it
@@nomongosinthaworld well we didnt even know about how much roger and his crew knew about the void century or whats really gonna happen with the new joyboy until the last few chapters and acutally we still dont know alot... And nowhere did anyone say those people were there for the purpose of helping to find joyboy, so its just a theory..
crocus was there because of laboon, rayleigh because his wife has a bar there, buggy just seemed like a crazy villain, i think i never heard about the big news morgans connection anywhere and nobody knew why shanks was in luffys hometown, even that hes there to bring the gomu gomu to ace is still only a theory, nobody confirmed it yet
so it is either coincidence that all those people happende to be there or it was planned all along
bro was cooked, he guessed haki could nulify the gorosei's ability
Everyone should have known this... law literally showed it already. Conquers will also be how they damage them permanently. It over rides the immortal surgery part
@@Ben-iz9ud I'm baffled that luffy didn't try a ryu coated attack in the first place, like it was one of his latest power ups.
@@copeharder777 Luffy is in gear 5, his attacks are coated with CoC. I don't think it's that simple.
@@dweblinveltz5035 That's true, but a basic G5 punch is not comparable to a deliberate acoc attack, like even the gorosei had emphasize on their black bolds.
But yeah, it's most definitely not that simple
@@dweblinveltz5035 literally everyone knows that 😉
The bible in OP shows multiple different covers, including one with the same face as the ark maxim.
I think gorosei just found some strange looking red eggs and transformed in a moment of their dreams shattering. Straw hat is means of protection that got Roger and Shanks to where they are. You may call it armor passed down from a king who lived 1000 years ago. I hope Shanks doesn't try to hit Imu with his sword cause we know where that's gonna end... Are we just watching Berserk for kids?
Hey, I hope you're well and avoided the earthquake! Stay safe!
as long as Imu is female, I am happy
Being able to balance that can on your head was so cool 🤯🤩
Going by this maybe imu is the other ancient weapon people speculate about and most likely the national treasure of marijoise if its not the strawhat. If he can command yokai in the same manner as momo and shira
Oh my god the last part of the video made me realize something - saturn attacks were invisible like when sanji got hit but it reminded me of madara limbo technique it could be the same thing and they need to both die at the same time or could be just like what the channel owner said imu needs to die at the same time
this may sound silly but imagine if Zunisha was Joyboy's parrot that was perched on his solider
Keep up the great work 💯
I appreciate the time and effort you put into your vids excellent work 💪🏽
I have heard many One Piece UA-camr’s, including yourself, bring up that in the Japanese culture there is a belief that all ‘things’ have a soul. Is this still a belief widely held in Japan today? I find, if true, this aspect of Japanese culture to be romantic!
If many of us Westerners’ felt this sentimental about the objects we own and surround ourselves by. I believe our greedy hearts and minds would be all the richer for it!!! There are some Americans who have sentimentality and respect for our vehicles though! As a young man, maintaining my vehicle is ritualistic.
You have a great taste in music (Xenogears is my fav RPG of all time), already subscribed!
One thing I am curios about is the differing colors of the cloud rings (Hoguromos?) that some ability users have such as Luffy, Yamato, Lucci, and the goresei. Are there important implications with the colors or is just a style choice by Oda-sensei? So far only those affiliated with the world government have had the black cloud rings and I am wondering if that is important.
This was a great video. But where was Imu face ?
2:38
Man, that music from Xenogears takes me back.
glad i found this channel
Thought you were going to use Vegapunk as the example of a character with a long head but you went with Strawberry of all people 🤣
In my opinion, Imu has (infinitely) many faces. Its true form is a black blob (which already is, somehow) than can turn into almost anything. A sort of "negative" version of Nika. The One Piece is going to be a pencil. The forces that make the plot are three: the ink (Imu), which corrupted the world; the rubber (Rufy), that is going to cancel Imu; the pencil (One Piece) that is going to rewrite history of humanity from the start, in the new era.
I add a note: in Japanese "Ink" is spelled "Sumi", which read backwards is "Imus".
Moreover Imu Sama looks like as a fountain pen (its top looks like a crown!)
Like you said,, I guess the only reason Saturn was left behind was because he travelled there physically by himself whereas others were summoned. Things are coming together slowly. 🤯
great music choice
Imu is Vearth
I haven't seen anyone who has noticed the fact that Emeth has the height, horns, head shape, large and round chest, thin and small feathers, exactly as an Oars would be if he were wearing iron armor or if he were transformed into a cyborg, Emeth could be a transformed Oars...
He's even dressed like little oars jr with his suspenders and belly armor in the latest chapter flashback
That's basically the Buccaneer build with horns. Much more than the very middle of the Bell curve human looking Elbafian giants.
It's been stated since Thriller Bark Arc that the ancient giants of the past were Oni Giants like Oars and his race, not the Elbaf giants. Emeth was probably an Oni Giant at some point. Also, Kaido was a descendant of those giants. This is why King thought Kaido was Joyboy.
Fun Facts.
ImU in Yoruba Language Meaning as Nose....
Didn't oda draw a joke version of Imu and the character's mouth/nose was the tall protrusion instead of a crown?
ive been looking for a one piece channel that made by Japanese person that speaks English🫡 thanks for making this channel sir
mista luna can u write down the list of ost's u use in this video and dawn and dusk videos? it will be awesome i always enjoy hearing them but i dont know where they are from
One of them is definitely the Area Zero theme from Pokemon Scarlet/Violet
@@Radi0actvChickn thanks it sounds a bit different im guessing the youtuber is using a lofi version or something by any chance do you know what ost is being used in the first minute?
thanks Luna!
there are 2 things that i want to ask you if these cases are possible to explain in your upcoming video..
why elders can 'walk' on the water? even saturn survived from drowning into the sea..
why saturn was still there in egghead while others went back to mariejoa?
Idk about the rest, but regarding Saturn people say it's because he was the only one that was with his body (on the marine ships) actually on egghead, while the others were "summoned"
Garps galaxy impact shows him flash into outerspace surrounded by galaxys using haki.maybe he teleported
Oda seems to repeat the same themes within an arc, and a big Egghead theme is what constitutes life and beings staying true to their nature even when they die or lose free will. I think the Gorosei serve Imu against their will. With the connections you made re them and the sea kings, Zunesha I wonder if they were allies of Joy Boy in the past. Or at least their bodies were.
I think Imu is a tonata.
I neverr see anyone make the, in my opinion, super obvious connection between Imu and it spelled backwards Umi(sea). The sea seems to be the underlying theme behind the whole story. Its the sea that nullifies df powers and the sea that will wash away the world.
literally everyone has made that connection
@@dweblinveltz5035 that's great because it seems so obvious and yet, I've never heard anyone mention it.
@@dweblinveltz5035 literally, never heard any of these guys mention it. Literally
@@codysaunders7348 maybe you missed the the specific video/part of the video? I dunno
@@dweblinveltz5035 from this fellow or someone else?
All signs are pointing to the fact that Joy Boy Luffy and the house of D are all Immortal Dragons. Maybe D clan was the original rulers of the world or monarchs.
Wat
I was waiting for an update on the latest chapters.
I wanted to know what Smoker had to do with MHA but that it’s that Horikoshi sending in a drawing of Smoker as a kid and then Oda recreated it? That's awesome! (And the Horikoshi image is in volume 23). I love the Joy Boy is dressed like God Valley Roger. I think that’s what we were all expecting but it’s nice to have confirmation. And while it does look like Joy Boy's right arm is a hook and right leg is a peg, I'm more inclined to think it's just a weird perspective. There's only one character with a peg leg and that's Zeff. There's only one character with a hook and that's Crocodile. We are still missing someone with an eyepatch and I do think that Joy Boy. But Joy Boy having a peg leg, eyepatch, and hook, seems excessive, even for Oda. I would be more inclined to think he has all three though Oda does introduce someone else with an eyepatch. Then there will be three characters, one with each and the one character with all three. While Oda may have now killed the theory that Joy Boy was a giant, I don’t think it necessarily rules out that Joy Boy was a Buccaneer. Unless I’m getting my scales wrong here. I think we also got confirmation here that Imu and the Five Elders are actually connected. And Emeth having the Arabasta “X” is also really awesome and a nice callback.
Genuine question: does that face seem more like a man or a woman? Because that face has a very thin nose and in One Piece usually it's only females that have that kind of nose like robin or hancock
Another great one as always
You continue to post the best OP commentary content on the internet-thank you@
You were kind enough to recently offer to try and pick up 27th anniversary OP issues of Shonen Jump for those of us not in Japan. I would like to offer a similar service to you from the United States. If there is something here in my country that you would like me to pick up for you, you need only let me know. It would be a singular honor to be able to do this for you.
ty gonna listen to this while my daughter and i are headed to bed. love your channels :)
Regarding the Imu hat thing
I just think Imu is tiny
Like small and the hat regular size
Also I have a really long theory about the ancient war but no one wants to hear it and I think Imu is a tiny monkey Humanoid.
I still think especially after 1122 that Joy Boy was a Monkey type Humanoid creature. (Golden Bell/ Lunar Pirates/ Emmeth first thinking its JoyBoy but on closer look he doesn't see a Monkey but a human with white hair and white clouds etc)
Oda just doesn't show us yet because the wackiness and sillyness needs to be revealed while also being epic so we either see full joy boy at laugh tale or if someone tells of him in a flashback
Joyboy was trying to be king, maybe the king of the "pirate" kingdom. Could this be the name of the ancient kingdom? 🤔
nice can on your head
the only thing i dont understand is if the elders are so old and have trained some time to get that next level haki. why are they so weak in actual combat?
What is the track playing at 4:30 ?
"One Who Bares Fangs at God"
Its from a 1998 JRPG called Xenogears. The guy also plays some tracks of the game in the video.
@@tex8939 broo thank you so muchhh ! literally I’ve been searching for so long
God bless you
@@tex8939 thank you so much man I was looking for forever
Are there any clear images of the magic circle used by the Elders? I am wondering if it can be decoded somehow. Which also makes me curious, can the poneglyphs be deciphered by our world, or is the ancient language just artistic?
On an unrelated note, but only because they are mentioned, I have recently been curious about the names or identities of the 6 sea kings who saved Fishman Island from Noah when Shirahoshi called them. They can speak, and with such size have probably been alive a long time. Obviously nothing is known yet, but I wonder if Japanese readers have tried giving them nicknames. I came up with some nicknames for them since they are otherwise nameless: Flamingoodle, Zebraman, Toothy, Frogface, Bigjaw, Bottomshark.
I always had this belief that Imu was a woman, and the more the story unfolds I believe she was perhaps even JoyBoys wife aka "the queen of queens" to the king of kings, Joy Boy. Until things went south for Joy boy and became the pirate king. Perhaps with her help as well joy Boy was then taken down as he became out of control which she may or may not regret but yeah that means she is probably immortal through science or a devil fruit. One Piece has always been a romance story, don't forget that ;)
emeth said he couldn't make joyboy king
imu is a man
@@dagan_origin I believe Joyboy was at one point the "king" of kings but he wanted to be even more free which only left him to go for the most free of all all Kings the Pirate King. That probably didn't go down so well with the other forces who formed an alliance to take him down. And as we perhaps are learning there was many betrayals to prevent him from becoming the Pirate King which then lived on as his will.
wait are you DAWN DUSK?
Yep
When fan translations first came out about Clover's full name i was excited because they said his name was Claíomh D. Clover. Claíomh (pronounced clee-iv) is an Irish word meaning sword.
Im irish and thought it was cool to finally understand the deeper meaning. You must feel that way all the time.
But it turns out his name is actually Clou D. Clover
Now i know you may have already answered this. Can you please help me out with figuring out more information about blackbewrdss "special body?"
Imu is lesbian simp on vivi 🤨
😂 not totally impossível
Say it with me now.... Jamaican beef patty squad🤘🤘
Such a masterpiece 🔥🔥👏👏💫
does anyone notice the imu's attendant, who's that person?
Might be the same one who appeared in Imu's debut
@@magnusopus117It is. People think she spawned out of nowhere 😂
We've seen Imu's servant before.
Great vid!
let me preface by saying this : we're not entitled to anything and I don't want you to think I'm asking you to do more work, it would be super rude !
But I've been curious since Wano started in the manga/anime : I'm sure there's a lot of samurai movie/litterature (aside from Rakugo) references in Wano (as for japanese historical references most have been spotted I think), we, foreign fans would be super curious about that, but I guess that is a LOT of work😅
but maybe such topics have been a talking subject amongst readers on BBS/SNS, I don't know.
(new viewer here, bikkuri shita, jozu eigo hanasemasu!)
worm is probably from Mongolian sand worm
Ah, so you're the Dawn Dusk guy?
What about the theory that it wasn't Shanks in chapter 907 but his brother...?
Unproved theory with no substance and I’ve hated the discourse about it. The way the gorosei speak implies it was probably Shanks but it’s lost in translation. Also, we don’t actually see anything to do with the appearance of the supposed Figarland/gods knight figure in 1121.
@@ldptdogbone9334 there are enough hints, particularly as Oda did not add a scar to that scene in the volume release. Oda fixes errors in the volumes.
@@ldptdogbone9334I wouldn't rule it out at all to not think Figarland would have another son and that Oda would make him look like shanks especially if twins separated at birth it seems like a very Oda thing to add that kind of important character so late in the game
@@John-pz5shonly 1 person can inherit a throne, shanks got the short end of the stick and was the younger twin which leads to god valley incident
There is a scar on his forehead if you look closely.
So I'm pretty sure that it was Shanks who met with gorosei.
EmET, not Emeth...
So joyboy got lily but imu dont then all these happened
What transportation magic are you talking about from FF7?
What if imu is the devil and the gorosei sold their soul to imu thats why they somehow like bound/link to imu? 😅
What do you think Rocks D Xebec? Is he descendants from ancient kingdom? He was said to broken may taboos, how deep is his knowledge of the void century secret if any?
Joyboy wanted to be a king as mentioned by Emeth. Is it king of pirate or king of the world? Rocks D Xebec wanted to be king of the world, could Joyboy too have that ambition?
There is not much details about Rocks D Xebec. We know Rocks pirate came to God Valley to take back the treasure that the World Government stole from Hachinosu island. Big Mom says in one of the manag panel, "let's just steal what we're after and scram". I assume she's talking about the treasure. In another one of the chat bubbles "i assume finders keepers", "they'll be mine!". All this point to the treasure. It seems like Rocks pirates are fighting among themselves for the treasure. It is also why Rocks pirates are defeated because they are individual and no teamwork. I'm sure they don't fight at all at God Valley. They run away after hearing of Xebec defeat. None of them have scars from the incident. In the manga panel of Rocks pirate, only Rocks D Xebec is not in the panel, we can see everyone from the pirate crew except Xebec himself. It means he wandered off on his own and then he fought Roger and Garp 1v2. Roger has the highest pirate bounty in history, but that's only because Xebec existence was erased off history by the World Government. I'm sure Xebec is a very strong individual given that it took Garp and Roger to team up against him.
Another thing is that, the one that found the treasure that World Government stole was Roger pirates. The World Government or mysterious individual had cunningly swap the treasure and put a baby inside it. That baby was Shanks. Roger pirates open the treasure box and was surprised to see a baby inside it. The real treasure is probably the Nika devil fruit. Shanks and his crew stole it back from the World Government.
This is only my assumption.
Story on how powerfull Monkey D Dragon might be .
Please 🙏
I want to hear it from you
Imu might be a narwhal
Is he the owner of Dawn dusk channel?? I thought she was a female..
I have a feeling that Straw Hat & others will have a battle royale at Lodestar/Laughtale and Morgans will be the host so that the audience around the world can see what's happening, just like Dressrosa arc.
Damn you dropped this w perfect timing and you knew it too! lol you kinda cheatin bro i saw those raw scans yesterday hahahahaha
can u remove background music it's difficult to ear ur voice*
It's only you
Why is there a can on top of your head ?? Lol