From throwing out lies to throwing out truth? - Deconstruction in the Hebrew Roots Movement

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  • @aislidh
    @aislidh 9 місяців тому +7

    What a beautiful teaching, brother. Thank you for sharing this! It's so necessary. I have definitely been down some bad paths in the "torah movement." Nothing trumps the love and grace of our Messiah, Yeshua. I have mishandled the Torah in the past, and I just ask Abba for forgiveness for how I have misused His instruction. Blinders off! It's all about Yeshua.

  • @Sparrowintheholler
    @Sparrowintheholler 9 місяців тому +6

    Took the song right from my heart! Thank you so much for this 🙌🙏
    My heart has been so heavy lately over the way this movement has turned into everyone feasting on each other like wolves. I was so excited when the Spirit revealed truth to me, I went looking for others to fellowship with in the truth… but what I found was that the movement was infiltrated by the adversary and people were destroying each other with it.

  • @emilytalbott2984
    @emilytalbott2984 10 місяців тому +8

    Soo very sobering message. You spoke truth. Oh I pray this message reaches deep into many hearts!

  • @christybailey469
    @christybailey469 9 місяців тому +6

    I needed this! I have been praying and praying since leaving my little Sunday church and understanding Torah BUT I have taken some steps back on socializing with many TO on tik tok due to the fruit they lack in showing. Lots of them spew hate, have so much pride, sacred name keepers, serpent seed promoting and just lost. When I first left church I worried about not having a teacher and Abba gave me 1 John 2:27. Today I have been praying again and then I stumble on this video which I have felt and didn’t have the words. Thank you brother May Abba bless you. I never want to forget my messiah, my savior, my first love.

    • @shaylasomerville4733
      @shaylasomerville4733 9 місяців тому +3

      ❤ this was needed for online groups . The real life TO fellowships are nothing like the online groups . It’s insane how social media makes some puffed up .

  • @grantmiller8270
    @grantmiller8270 10 місяців тому +4

    Hey PD, yep I think this is a massive stronghold! Just yesterday I participated in a small group discussion where minds were engaged in battle albeit politely nether the less engaged.
    I asked God what’s going on here?
    “Intellectual supremacy”
    So timely message brother. Thanks
    The giants will fall!

  • @re-7777
    @re-7777 8 місяців тому +1

    Praise Yahuah

  • @JohnJohnson-rc6ci
    @JohnJohnson-rc6ci 10 місяців тому +5

    Indeed. A good word in season, thank you friend. Shabbat Shalom. ❤ 🎉

  • @camilla6110
    @camilla6110 10 місяців тому +4

    Thank you, PD! Such a Ruach-delivered message and much needed in these last moments. Ha’shatan will try to use messages like this and paint it with a broad-brush, call it the “falling away”, calling it “compromise”, but truly, it is just coming back to the center, as you said. You have the JOY of YHWH that seems lacking in so many. The enemy came in very early on in this movement and used his best tactic, which is “labels” and began dividing us into groups. It’s an effective weapon-comparison between the brethren-and ha’shatan knows that. We start comparing our walk, our knowledge, our good works and our perception of Truth and Yuhshua fades into the background every time. And then Yuhshua’s lambs (especially the young ones) begin to fall through the cracks.
    Every GOOD THING in us comes from Above! HE does it all-HE CAUSES us to walk in the Righteousness of Yuhshua! He CAUSES us to stay on His Path when we are snugly yoked to Him. He gave us His Loving Instructions and Codes of Wisdom for our own GOOD-because He loves us that much, and His Teachings keep us from the snares of the enemy! So it is all born out of His Magnificent LOVE for His children. But we can twist it into our obedience and what WE do. Our obedience is directly a result of Elohim’s great love and protection. He causes us to walk in His Ways-He causes us to seek His Voice-He CAUSES us to come into the covering of His Tent and dwell with Him. He CAUSES us to cling to Mashiach!! He does it all! HalleluYah! I pray that the Father uses this to His Purpose and that hearts are softened and rough places are made smooth. ☺️
    “And such trust we have toward YHWH through ha’Mashiach, not that we are competent in ourselves to reckon anything as from ourselves, but our competence is from Elohim.” 2 Qorintyim/Corinthians 3:4-5
    “YHWH of hosts, Him you shall Qadosh (be dedicated to). Let Him be your Reverence and let Him be your Awe.” YeshaYahu/Isaiah 8:13
    “For He Who is Mighty has done wonders for me, and Qodesh is His Name, and His Compassion is from generation to generation, to those who revere Him.” Luke/Luqas 1:49-50
    💜. ⛺️. 💜

  • @ceharp8725
    @ceharp8725 10 місяців тому +4

    This is true and has been what I have recognized from some of our teachers lately etc...Glad to notice and remember not to idolize anyone or their knowledge.

  • @RicaLabagh-rf4nw
    @RicaLabagh-rf4nw 19 днів тому +1

    Thank you brother, what a powerful, much appreciated Word. You are a blessing! 🕊️

  • @danielflomerfelt7486
    @danielflomerfelt7486 9 місяців тому +2

    Amen,bless,your,heart

  • @lynwong4740
    @lynwong4740 10 місяців тому +3

    Amen, thank you for sharing this.

  • @taylorbiss7992
    @taylorbiss7992 10 місяців тому +10

    i was so focused on my effort to avoid faith without works that I fell into works without faith. now He is taking me back through a process of returning to my First love. i said a prayer last night, fully realizing how works without faith took me further away from Him, and asked Him to bring me to a turning point of coming back to Him. just this morning I happened to come across emails of assignments I completed on the gospels and how they were impacting my walk with Jesus. I wrote them while I was in a non-denominational discipleship program as a new christian. After that I stumbled across this video.
    HalleluYah to the Savior 🙌

    • @april_thomas
      @april_thomas 10 місяців тому +10

      Amen sister! Thank you for sharing! Praise be to God!!
      He did something similar for me last summer when my husband and I went to the Asbury Revival. We were sitting up in the balconies with a completely crowded chapel and we began to sing the words, "What a beautiful name it is, nothing compares to this, the name of Jesus Christ my King. What a powerful name it is, nothing can stand against, the name of Jesus." I raised my hands and began to declare those words as the very truth my spirit knew them to be and God began to break the spirit of religion off of me and I literally felt that presence flee from me. A few weeks later I came across the passage in Revelation 2:1-5: ‭
      “Write to the angel of the church in Ephesus: Thus says the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand and who walks among the seven golden lampstands: I know your works, your labor, and your endurance, and that you cannot tolerate evil people. You have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and you have found them to be liars. I know that you have persevered and endured hardships for the sake of my name, and you have not grown weary. But I have this against you: You have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember then how far you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent." (The very passage PD references a few times in this video.)
      The Holy Spirit revealed to me that this was the work He was doing in my heart - causing me to remember my first love and bringing me back to the works I once did - sharing the gospel, seeking to walk in Spirit and Truth, testifying of Jesus and His work in me, recognizing Yeshua's deity and repenting of ever having questioned it! 🥹😭 God is so faithful to redeem us if we just humble ourselves, repent and let the Holy Spirit lead us.
      I pray the Holy Spirit continues to lead you and teach you and help you faithfully walk in both Spirit and in Truth. I ask the Lord to continue to encourage your spirit as He so lovingly did last night and today. I pray for blessings over your life and a heart that remains humble. I ask the Lord to strengthen you and protect you so that you may endure to the end. May God use your life to bring glory to His name, in Jesus' name. Amen.

    • @truthfreed7
      @truthfreed7 10 місяців тому +2

      👏 HalleluYah!

    • @Sparrowintheholler
      @Sparrowintheholler 9 місяців тому +3

      @@april_thomas Yes!! This testimony! 🙌 Halleluyah! 😭❤️

    • @beethankfull
      @beethankfull 6 місяців тому +1

      @@april_thomas I was at Asbury too...yes, it was a great reminder! As we received Christ...so walk ye in Him!

  • @LeicesterRose
    @LeicesterRose 10 місяців тому +2

    Very timely message, thank you, and YAH bless you, PD❤

  • @lisayun8995
    @lisayun8995 10 місяців тому +4

    Well said God bless you! ❤

  • @shaylasomerville4733
    @shaylasomerville4733 9 місяців тому +2

    Amein brother ❤❤❤

  • @vickidonald6811
    @vickidonald6811 6 місяців тому +1

    Praise the Lord God almighty ! I needed this brother ! May God bless you and keep you , your ministry and channel. Amen

  • @AndreaM77
    @AndreaM77 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks PD. Much needed message.

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much! Glory to the Father

  • @truthfreed7
    @truthfreed7 10 місяців тому +8

    Yes!!! 💯 🎯
    I have been waiting to hear a message like this for some time now. Everything the Holy Spirit has impressed upon my own heart for so so long now.
    The revelation of Torah and law is good, but it is not and never will be what saves. This message says it very well when stating that the revelation was freely given. It was good, but much of the fruit produced thereafter has begun to spoil and stink. A possible offense in the Father’s nostrils.
    The term “church” is a dirty word now (😔) and much condemnation of others on many fronts as the message states.
    Placing burdens (like the Pharisees) on our BRETHREN. Ripping the rug of the faith that they have always known right from beneath them. How can we take such a great gift and turn around and hurt our brethren just like the man who has his own debts forgiven and shown great mercy, only to go outside after obtaining that great mercy and show none to those who owed him.
    When the Father gives revelation it IS exciting, but, when still in its infancy we MUST then sit at the Masters feet and learn. Just as Mary did. In our excitement we desire to share the truth with everyone not realizing we only have part of the revelation! That is the key! We take what little we are given and have spent it like the prodigal son. AND exalting all this “knowledge” above the Son! I have come to realize it’s a slippery slope. And the promise of knowledge is truly what tempted Eve in the garden. Knowledge is good, but if it is truly NOT from Yah it WILL lead to deconstruction. And very sadly, VERY sadly so.
    Knowledge is good and wisdom is to be sought after, but placing them and the pursuit above the Messiah is dangerous territory. I myself have had to ask much forgiveness.
    We must be very aware that there are many deceptions. And do as revelation says, that Yahusha said and repent and go back to your First Love! He foreknew this would happen, but obviously He has allowed the heavy burden of carrying all of this to produce repentance in those who will truly hear this message from the Holy Spirit.
    Thanks so much SO MUCH for this message! May Yah bless and protect your family and ministry, and may this timely message from the Holy Spirit reach the audience intended.

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  10 місяців тому +5

      Thank you for sharing that. We pray that the Holy Spirit can work in the hearts of men, our words alone cannot, but He can bring change.

  • @RowanNightAngel
    @RowanNightAngel 10 місяців тому +2

    Blessings, dear brother! Yes, I've been feeling very weary lately as well. Not really wondering if my labor was in vain persay, but I think more so just angry that it doesn't seem to have as much impact as I would hope. That despite my best efforts, I keep seeing the lies and the distractions so much quicker tearing apart the body of Christ than I can build towards growth and maturity.
    But brother, consider this: that we do not labor for a result (because pride demands a result), but instead we labor simply because we have no other choice. It's simply the heart and the character of the Father within us. How can you deny that and shut it down? Well, by forgetting love and focusing instead on the pain of a perceived loss. When in reality, in heaven's bookkeeping, the weight of a sacrifice of love is the investment that stands as a powerful intercession to bring them what they have not sought to purchase for themselves. The Word will NEVER, EVER, EVER return void, even when we find it slow in returning. But a seed planted can crack boulders, and most of those boulders you will never see crumbling. But know this, brother: you have already been a part of mountains crumbling. They may be "in far away lands" right now, but there's a trail of fertile crops ready for the harvest where your feet have tread.
    Blessings, brother, and shalom!

  • @vickidonald6811
    @vickidonald6811 6 місяців тому

    Thanks!

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  6 місяців тому

      Thank you so much Vicki! Blessings to you

  • @pennyherndon2407
    @pennyherndon2407 6 місяців тому

    I love this so much

  • @ChildofGod98765
    @ChildofGod98765 10 місяців тому +2

    I put my trust in God even as I struggle to provide for my two children with special needs. As a single mother things are challenging my sons are both special needs and now that I’m homeschooling them my hours to work are limited. Lord as I struggle to provide groceries and as I struggle to pay my rent each month I ask for you to continue to give me the courage to keep going. The Lord is my strength and shield. Jesus has turned my pain into purpose. Jesus you remain the only strength in my heart. I can do all things with Christ!

    • @jannaswanson271
      @jannaswanson271 10 місяців тому +3

      As has been pointed out by countless others- you have been posting this in hundreds of Christian videos since 2020. Are you saying that Yah has left you sick and destitute this entire time?

  • @beethankfull
    @beethankfull 6 місяців тому +1

    @rise on fire You are right about the youth...but please realize many adults in TO also don't know Messiah either....thats why they don't tell their children! They also often (I'd even say, eventually always) reject those within their group who do have a personal relationship with Messiah Yeshua (Jesus)...making continuing fellowship difficult to impossible...

  • @sunflower9387
    @sunflower9387 9 місяців тому

    What do you mean to shift back to the Son? Our Messiah came to shift us back to The Father. What do you mean? Please explain, I'm confuse.

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  9 місяців тому +6

      Yeshua called people to Him, in order that they may see the Father (John 5:40).
      We are saved by no other way than by Yeshua. He must be preached through the gospel so the hearers may be saved and united with the Father. Yeshua and His Father are one. We must have close relationship with Yeshua, the door.
      If we lift other things above Yeshua, we have idols. Everything in heaven and earth has been made subject to Yeshua, every knee will bow to Him, He was there from the beginning, and nothing was made that was not made through Him. These biblical statements of who Yeshua is are told to us by John (chapter 1).

  • @NatalieAndersonGP
    @NatalieAndersonGP 10 місяців тому +2

    Those that are messianic are not relying on the law for works or in their own accord. Those that obey the law are drawing close to Christ. I think if everyone stopped attacking and start asking may learn what the "Hebrew roots" Christians believe.

    • @bringstolight
      @bringstolight 10 місяців тому

      amein

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  10 місяців тому +3

      Attacking is wrong. In some cases, the reason some people aren’t interested in learning is because they witness bad fruit.
      I’ll add, some (not all) absolutely do rely on own works more than they should, because of a lack of gospel teaching. It is ok to identify problems so it can be corrected.

  • @jannaswanson271
    @jannaswanson271 10 місяців тому +1

    Do we take the revelations we have and share them with others? I do try to do it humbly but it is so frustrating when people cannot see it.
    I have also wondered this about Flat Earth. It is an eye-opener that puts many things in perspective. Yet if people who claim Christ refuse to believe it even when they are shown it -are they then refusing to believe Yahusha who IS the Word made flesh?
    In the OT the Israelites who refused to believe the Word of Yah died in the wilderness and were not allowed to enter the promised land. is not their refusal to believe indeed sin?
    I have friends and family that believe all sorts of church-based lies and myths. I try to get them to see truth and they refuse. Yah gave us all the Scriptures for a reason.
    With the knowledge that the original Hebrews were dark-skinned many have been trying to claim a physical bloodline through Abraham or claiming that only they will be saved or that the grafted in branches will too serve them, the natural branches. I like to point out that no one can know for sure if they are Israelites since there are other dark-skinned nations. What matters is being a child of Yah. The knowledge of Israel's skin color only is useful to highlight that modern Israel is another lie of man.

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  10 місяців тому +4

      Through intermarriage over thousands of years, skin colors shift. You can see this even after 1 generation of intermarriage. Skin color alone is a poor indicator of descent when talking about thousands of years that includes European intermarriage. Regardless, there are Jews of all colors inside Israel, and many outside it who are not gathered there.
      Any particular shape of the earth is not commanded by the Bible, nor is it specifically taught. It is assumed in biblical texts wherein the contextual objective is never to define or command the shape of the earth. And usually the texts that are used are widely believed to be biblical poetry in class. Nevertheless, to base salvation upon it is dangerous doctrine which we reject as a false gospel. We are saved by Christ.
      I have no problem with those who desire to discuss it, and I don’t mind what shape you theorize, but it is not a divider of faith. Proclaim the gospel

    • @jannaswanson271
      @jannaswanson271 10 місяців тому

      @@RiseOnFire Do you agree that there is one nation that Yah spoke to the Earth through? Do you believe that there are natural branches and ones that are grafted in?
      Do you believe Yah created day and night before the sun and the moon? Do you believe that He created only His firmament on the second day of Creation? Do you believe the moon is a light?
      Do you believe that the Earth has a foundation? Pillars? Or is Yah confused and man knows better?
      Why did Joshua bid the sun and moon to be still and not the Earth?
      Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Words of Yah. Yahusha IS the Word- don't discount Him.
      Yah gave us all this information for a reason. The Scriptures are how we "take all things captive to Christ" and how we renew our minds.

    • @Sparrowintheholler
      @Sparrowintheholler 9 місяців тому +4

      @@RiseOnFire well spoken! I have come across this doctrine recently and the followers are relentless in claiming if you don’t be fully persuaded by the shape of the earth then you are not truly saved and grafted in. And to try to show them the error in that only gets them enraged and creates even more folly. It’s brutal and many are being caught in those nets. 😞

  • @elderjoe2159
    @elderjoe2159 10 місяців тому +1

    my question is why is it that you Christians can't just do your religion and leave the Hebrew stuff alone

    • @RowanNightAngel
      @RowanNightAngel 10 місяців тому +7

      Because Jesus son of Joseph from Nazareth (who is Christ the Messiah) was from the line of King David. The history and culture going all the way back to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is ingrained in our faith just as it is for the Hebrew people. We should embrace each other because of that commonality and shared values. ❤ The only problem is that there is no peace or communion between followers of Jesus Christ and those who reject Him, because those who deny the Messiah reject His love and reject ours, and turn instead to embrace hatred. It is always the same as in His day when the Pharisees and Sadducees put Him on the cross and crucified Him. It will always be the same: hatred against Yahweh even as He extends His hand of love through His people. There is no slave nor free, no male nor female, no rich or poor, no denominations of faith inside Jesus Christ, just love and harmony and unity. ❤ Best place to be, even if the world hates and persecutes us even unto death.

    • @LeicesterRose
      @LeicesterRose 10 місяців тому +3

      Because our Savior was a Torah Keeping, Feast Observing, Kosher Eating, Tzitzit wearing Jew. He tells us to follow Him, and walk as He Walked. 1 John 2:3-6. ❤️🙏🏼🕊

    • @jannaswanson271
      @jannaswanson271 10 місяців тому +1

      @@LeicesterRose Yahusha died on the cross to fulfill the Law because the Law leads to death. In Acts 15 people are trying to teach new believers in Christ to follow the Law of Moses and the Apostles got very upset. Why is that?
      Yahusha set us free from the law- we walk in His commandments by the Spirit. walking in love fulfills the requirements of the law.

    • @LeicesterRose
      @LeicesterRose 10 місяців тому

      @@jannaswanson271 if the law of Moses was done away with, why did YAHusha, His Disciples, and the early church, all keep Sabbath in the synagogue, Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles, etc? YAHusha is the Living Word. What Word is that? The NT wasn’t written until after His Death. Therefore it is the OT, the Torah. How could He do away with that, if it is Who He is? I ask this in Love, and pray your eyes will be opened to His Truth, that you may walk as He truly walked, ❤️🙏🏼🕊

    • @jannaswanson271
      @jannaswanson271 10 місяців тому +1

      @@LeicesterRose I am not going to argue with you about it. Keep the Law if you want. I hope you can keep it perfectly.

  • @mobn4yah523
    @mobn4yah523 9 місяців тому

    Ironic that you make a video about forgetting the truth of messiah being for salvation and the guidance of the spirit being what leads us to that truth of the word while simultaneously getting upset that people don’t believe in Yeshuah’s “divinity” something that isn’t stated as salvific or even definitive, maybe you made this video for yourself too? Maybe you have pride in your trinity/oneness doctrine? Other than that I can say amen to the idea your putting forth

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  9 місяців тому +2

      Every knee will bow before Yeshua. Everything on heaven and earth has been made subject to Him. He was there from the beginning. There was nothing made that was not made through Him.
      Any believer should acknowledge the above biblical statements are absolute statements of who He is. It is not pride to have a position on who Yeshua is based off the texts above.
      Lumping others into a theological worldview without having deeper conversations is not productive, since it is based off assumptions.

    • @mobn4yah523
      @mobn4yah523 9 місяців тому

      @@RiseOnFire okay one at a time brother I’ll show you what I mean by “not definitive” here we go
      1 and 2 “every knee will bow before Yeshuah and everything in heaven and on earth has been made subject to him” 2 things here first; every knee will bow because the father elevated him to that position Eph 1:20-22 he didn’t posses it by nature but by virtue of the fact he succeeded in his mission to be the spotless lamb OF God not who WAS God
      God the father raised him from the dead and PUT all authority under his feet but Paul goes to painstaking detail to prevent this conclusion you’ve come to about him being the most high YAH in 1 Cor 15:27
      3. “There was nothing made that was not made through him” since you didn’t show where that is I’m assuming it’s Colossians 1 and the context there is kingdoms and principalities not birds bees bears and trees look at the list of things stated that were created in Col 1:16 plus the context of the chapter up to that point is about kingdoms not earths
      Hope you can see that the context of those passages does NOT lend credence to your idea and at BEST your position is not definitive and at worst it’s straight up blasphemous because you claim the most high YAH became less than most high and died and you are elevating a man to the throne of the most high YAH which would be breaking the Torah “thou shalt have no other Elohim before me”
      I was saying maybe it’s pride in your trinity doctrine cuz in almost tears you were exclaiming how you just couldn’t fathom how people were even doubting the divinity of messiah but as I’ve shown that’s debatable to even be true and you prolly didn’t know that when you met messiah and we’re delivered from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light and neither did I or anyone else NO ONE has been saved by the trinity/oneness doctrine they are saved by the gospel that the SON OF GOD died for our sins and if we trust in his completed works and turn from the world to him in our hearts we will be saved so to act as though in the same video about “turning back to our first love” that it would include accepting the doctrine of trinity in any of various forms is def misguided and shows you might love that doctrine too much and elevate it above the truth of the word if you going to put it on par with accepted the gospel and clinging to Christ that is
      Hope that makes sense

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  9 місяців тому +3

      @@mobn4yah523 You stated: "he didn’t posses it by nature but by virtue of the fact he succeeded in his mission to be the spotless lamb OF God not who WAS God"
      Please read John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
      You stated: “There was nothing made that was not made through him” since you didn’t show where that is I’m assuming it’s Colossians 1"
      No, that is from John 1:3 "All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made." The context is *not* only "kingdoms" as you propose, it is the Genesis creation account ("In the beginning..." John 1:1)
      In all respect, it doesn't seem like you have considered John 1 thoroughly, which makes these statements definitively.

    • @mobn4yah523
      @mobn4yah523 9 місяців тому

      @@RiseOnFire understood so it wasn’t Colossians it was John 1
      Can you show me that the “word” is a person? Cuz all the way up to verse 14 of John 1 the “he” did this and “he” did that is very easily and often even in John 1 translated as “it” and so I wonder if you’ve throughly considered John 1 especially in the light of other scripture for example is we say the word is a pre incarnate Christ, for example when was he “in the world”? Other than the time he was “incarnate” that is because the statement here in John 1:10 seems to be referring to a time since at least creation and I find that problematic when we look at scriptures like 1 Peter 1:19-20 or Hebrews 1:1? which both declare the father didn’t manifest the son to us or speak to anyone through the son till “these last days
      So than with your interpretation of John 1 making the word a person you thereby make these epistles a lie and or double speak

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  9 місяців тому +2

      The word is Yeshua:
      1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
      The Father spoke through the Son when He came in the flesh. That does not mean the Son wasn’t there from the beginning. Nothing is contradictory.

  • @treeofeternallifearvoredav1227
    @treeofeternallifearvoredav1227 9 місяців тому

    Yet you refer writings of false Paul deceiver of the whole World who himself confessed to be Demon possessed and live lawless.

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  9 місяців тому +5

      Do not bear false witness. Paul proclaimed neither.

  • @brianpowell7571
    @brianpowell7571 10 місяців тому

    LMAO 😂😂😂, this guy is a joke!!!

    • @RiseOnFire
      @RiseOnFire  10 місяців тому +4

      Blessings to you, Brian

    • @shaylasomerville4733
      @shaylasomerville4733 9 місяців тому +2

      @@RiseOnFirethank you brother for this needed message ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @VictoriaEzpeletaLucas
      @VictoriaEzpeletaLucas 9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much PD! We are very grieved as well!

    • @bettyeggers2701
      @bettyeggers2701 15 днів тому +1

      I am living proof of what you teach here. I got into the H.R movement about 7 yrs ago. It came about because I was hungry for truth and sick of the state of Christianity and the local church. I connect with like minded H.R. believers and teacher on line. I was overwhelmed with the truth and how everything in the Bible connected and how puzzle pieces that use to not fit, now fit. Unbeknown to me at the time the enemy was beginning to plant a seed of pride. I can remember even thinking shortly after following the teachings of the H.R. how blessed I was for God to choose to reveal this to me. Little things I began to notice in time that disturbed me was the bickering between brothers on calendar dates, how sabbath should be kept, etc. I even got the impression at times to much was made about Jesus and not enough about GOD the father. Then there was the debate on the correct names. There were hints that Paul was a false apostle too. One thing that bothered me the most was the reference that Sunday keeper/christians were probably lost and not truly born again because they didn’t keep the laws of God. (Most do keep the whole bible to what their eyes have been opened to keep). My sister in law shows more love for the lost and believers than anyone I know but she is a devoted Sunday believer. I started seeing the amazing contrast between her life and most H.R. believers. She was love and compassion for the lost and H.R. spent most their time tearing each other down because they disagreed with each other. Slander, slander, criticism, judging, was all I saw. Then one day I woke up and realized I was cold inside. I felt like I was dying spiritually. I prayed and asked GOD what was wrong with me if I was following the truth by keeping Torah, sabbath, and feast why did I feel like I was dying inside spiritually. Not immediately but soon after He showed me I had “LOST MY FIRST LOVE”. What? How? I was following the word made flesh. Then He showed me it was a SPIRIT AND TRUTH walk. The truths of the Torah walked out in the spirit not in the flesh just like i did when I first got saved and did the first 50 yrs of my walk with Him. Only difference now was I had more Truth but was deceived on how to walk it out. I had felt like I had lost my foundation. I was told I had believed lies in my christian life when coming into the H.R. and I got deceived in the H.R. too. I am on the road to recovery but honestly it has been a challenge. I even said today to GOD, help me get back to my child like faith I use to have in you before coming to all this new knowledge. The contrast between my Sunday keeping sister in law who exhibited so much love and those in the H.R. movement who exhibited so little love was the light that GOD used to open my eyes. By their FRUITS!

    • @bettyeggers2701
      @bettyeggers2701 15 днів тому

      P.s. I came across you by accident. Never heard of you before but your title caught my interest