Ukraine frontline fighting: Retreat from Avdiivka | BBC News
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2024
- *** Warning: graphic frontline footage
Ukraine’s forces have retreated from Avdiivka, a key eastern city besieged by Russian forces for months. Ukrainian troops pulled out as Russian forces advanced and seized control of the city in the Donetsk region. The retreat was ordered to save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers, according to Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Russia's defence ministry said it had full control of the city, with President Vladimir Putin hailing it as an "important victory". Almost all of Avdiivka's pre-war population of more than 30,000 people have fled and the city itself is almost completely destroyed.
Its fall marks Russia's biggest victory in Ukraine for months. Mr Zelensky blamed a lack of Western weapons supplies. US President Joe Biden accused his political opponents in Washington of sharing responsibility for the Ukrainian defeat.
Ukraine has been experiencing shortages in ammunition and other military equipment. Its army depends on supplies from western allies. However the latest package of military aid from the United States has been blocked due to political opposition from Republicans and some Democrats in the US Congress. The United States has been Ukraine’s main weapons supplier, providing billions of dollars of military support since the Russian invasion in 2022.
Jane Hill presents BBC News at Ten reporting from the frontline by Andrew Harding.
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This is astonishing that Russia managed to advance just with shovels and washing machines
dude giving 3rd degree burns with this comment to sympathizers 😂😂😂
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Perhaps you should be questioning anyone telling you that Russians aren’t also using good equipment
Innit 😅
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Due to intrinsic military complexities, the Ukrainians are advancing backwards whereas the Russians are retreating forward.
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And most will think Russia is losing 😂 my country of Scotland is full of mindless sheep
Now it is "a small town "?
Was it not a city a few weeks ago?
The city is gone. There is no city in that area anymore.
@@charlieloo2470 it's unfortunate
Information war
You are always trying to lure young boys off comment sections! Stop sending them inappropriate photos and leave them alone! And I don’t care if you call me homophobic again it doesn’t excuse your behavior! You can’t send those photos to KIDS!
00:46 I like that BBC is not shy about showing Nazi symbols (an eagle on a swastika) on Ukrainian soldiers.
Damn you have a sharp eye
Kinda hard to hide it if it's all over the place in Україна 🇺🇦
🇮🇷, Russia @@walterbrunswick
А если бы они показали это видео на несколько секунд дольше, то видно как эти бойцы зигуют.
Но это ж нельзя показывать😂, как это "наши парни" зиги кидают от сердца к солнцу
@@user-dl6ed5eq2gА это не те же самые "азовцы", которые незадолго до этого люто, бешено зиговали, торжественно въезжая в Авдеевку?
Ukraine didn't retreat they were defeated in the battle for avdiivka
it was slaughter meat grinder constant bombing lot of got captured and also killed when trying to escape absolutely terrible situation for soldiers of Ukraine
they arent even calling it a retreat. they are calling it a withdraw
@@tollph3314 😆
@@tollph3314 Its hard to continute to lie in the media....every day is harder.
Running away from your own territories you call it retreat😂
BBC LOL. Shovels and fridges. RIP Propaganda !!
BBC is Garbage, their days are over. People know the game now.
I mean, those fridges and washing machines make an impact if dropped by a fighter jet😮
I love your comment...rip propaganda 😂
“It’s a stalemate.” Propaganda.
You're a degenerate
2024: Авдеека не имела стратегического значения.
2025: Украина не имела стратегического значения.
1945 - Капитуляция Гитлеровской Германии, 1991 - распад СССР, 2028 -? 2030 -? Останется ли существовать государство развязавшее захватническую войну в Европе? Фашистское государство?
@@Nik.B_V ты щас про Италию?
2026: основным планом спецоперации всегда было отвоевание Москвы
верим)@@GLADICEK2
Украина - большевистская конструкция... Малороссия возвращается домой!
The badge on soldier's chest at 0:45 - 0:46 explaining one of the reasons of this conflict ((( Great work BBC!
All I see is an eagle. Both sides have eagles on their emblems. That's no swastika below the eagle. I captured then zoomed in on it.
@@SerpentLord nope, that's a nazi symbol.
@@SerpentLordmy grandpa also said the same, he also had those symbol
When a city is under Ukraine is strategic and crucial and when it gets into Russia’s hands, it suddenly becomes irrelevant. We see through you all and we know
Following this process, one day we will see Ukraine is irrelevant!
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Lmao dw russia is running out of missles and they fighting with shovels
Kiev will be like this too
They said the same thing in Mariupol and Bakhmut also. They will say same thing about Kiev one day.
Boris Johnson needs to be held accountable
What he did , I don't know just asking 😐
@joydeeppanda6068 he told zelensky to keep the Ukrainians fighting while a peace agreement was pending with russia
In all honesty, responsibility rested with the clowns called Ukrainian government. If they base their decisions on someone’s words …
@haydnbrewer7426 yeah but but it made certain companies a lot of money
@walterbrunswick that's true but moneys a man made concept without strong capable men nothing gets done
This can’t be happening as the BBC have said repeatedly that Russia were “out of ammunition and weapons”😅😅😅
They blame the international community for not sending enough weapons…😂 come on. Literally a couple of months ago we sent £2.5 million of weapons and ammunition. A few days ago it was said that Denmark sent ALL of their artillery shells to Ukraine. Just give up already. No more money to Ukraine!
the comment section shows that no matter how you sugar coat it - victory is still a victory
Comments are not everything
Comments are everything
@@daveoc5770 Lol😂😅 bbc 😅 estimates of Russians killed? their proof a Ukrainian propagandist😂
NATO losses in ukraine🤕
@@freedombro6502😂😂😂😂
Strange how overnight the western media changed their stance like they did in bakhmut. Avdiivka was critical for Ukraine, and now it's strategically unimportant.
always. Its to keep the sheep happy
Well said
That’s called western hypocrisy 😂
@@stillfree47Брат ты видишь реальность той какая она есть 👍👏👏👏
I mean the town is in ruins. Not sure what importance it can still hold?
0:38 BBC News, you forgot the Hitler salute!
Zalensky should blame it on obeying the west after he signed peace in Istambul
2:38 So no longer It's "Fortress Avdiivka" now its just "one small town" because the Russians captured it. . .
You're a degenerate
It took 37,000 Russian soldiers lives to take control of a small town
@@ezequielpedroza3865esa cifra es falsa 😂😂 en serio crees a las cifras dadas por los ucranianos? 😂😂😂😂
@@ezequielpedroza3865 it's what ukrianians told you, they never lie btw =)
@@ezequielpedroza3865haha, bot.
But we were told by bbc two years back thst Russia was out of ammunition 😂😂😂😂
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No, we weren't. You're just delusional.
@@rbesfeGo through the backlog.
@rbesfe they for sure did multiple times a year ago when they were arriving Kiev and Odessa with missiles. Once they stopped the media said russia was running low on missiles. Months later, they strike everyday for a week straight. With the missiles they didn't have lol
@@rbesfetalk to your doctor about your amnesia, von der Leyen literally gave a speech about how Russians steal washing machines from Ukraine to make missiles.
Ukraine will always be remembered as the fool who picked a fight with Russia for the US .
Buriya
So just like Georgia, who also ain't in NATO, or the EU, to this day.
@@n3rdy11 Yes Like Georgia.
17k losses? 47k, 40k Are we just saying numbers now? 🤣
For heaven sake, if russia suffers huge losses, how do they manage to retreat forward? 🤷
Russia cowardly advances while ukrainan troops bravely retreat!
@@kosstarYT what a strategic tactic that Ukraine did 😂
@@kosstarYT Ты это сам придумал😅ваша пропаганда врёт ,Россия может все и как надо
Numbers advantage. Simple concept, no?
@@ricardoamendoeira3800 никакого преимущества в живой силе у России нет с начала конфликта, в лучшем случаем 600 тысяч военных на январь 2024, у Украины на май 2022 уже было 1.1 миллион по заявлениям Зеленского.
Но если смотреть на украинские цифры потерь российской армии, то российская группировка на текущий момент примерно 100 тысяч человек, как Украина умудряется проигрывать такой группировке и убивать ее половину только в битве за Авдеевку - загадка... нет.
remember a year ago when they said Russia was completely running out of equipment and supplies
Don’t believe a thing the media say because it’s usually the opposite which is true
they had to much left over from cold war and still taking more out storage. but it is getting emptyer by the day. So now they had plenty to spare at this pace it soon will be less and less people to produce new onces as the young generation is starting to find it easy to chose a wife as there is an surplus created in russia by the wars it started.
Yea,because that was true.
Who do you think is supplying Russia? North Korea. Iran. China. And probably India too. Russia doesn't have the capacity or manpower to build things.
On paper they had everything, in reality they barely had enough to put uniforms on 250k soldiers. That's just uniforms.
Go educate yourself.
North Korea's arsenal is getting empty..... too
@@billyyank5807 another idiot here.
Russia out produces the west.
If you think the nations you mentioned can out perform all the western nations, then you’ve really drank the kool aid
Why did you guys cut out the Nazi salut from Azov when they were entering Avdiivka????
Doesn't really fit BBC bs narrative so...
По тому-что они это скрывают для обычных граждан. Это продажные СМИ. Два года они промывают всем мозги, просто теперь люди начали открывать свои глаза и стали замечать их ложь.
Странно, а почему из видео стыдливо вырезали участок с зигованием всу ов
потому что это другое. Иначе Западному миру придётся признаться,что они поддерживают нацизм.А так, можно же просто закрыть глаза,не правда ли ?!
2:35 Avdiivka is miraculously transformed into a small town of little strategic importance.
Well when did it have big importance you ruzzki troll?
He says the fall won't change the war all together, but highlights Russia's sheer determination and massive firepower. How is that wrong or misleading?
@cazman182 just a few weeks ago Zelenski bragged that they would fight to the last man, and never leave - insinuating how important the town is. But now it isn't consequential.
Which is it? You can't have it both ways.
Теперь зеленский не сможет стрелять по мирным жителям донецка и провацировать рксских
LoL exactly
Why'd he only say 47k casualties? Why not 100 million?
Russian military correspondents admitted that the Russians lost 16,000 KIA soldiers and more than 300 pieces of military equipment during the battle for Avdiivka
@@andriyy53 хахаххахх
The casualities seem to be perhaps 4.7k max, so I guess they just 10x actual casualty numbers
@@EvilZed ржи над смертю своїх солдат і далі
I thought that Russia only had fuel and ammunition for 2 more days of fighting, how did this happen?
Просто у России большой опыт борьбы с нацизмом.
Oil fields and manufacturing plants
Imagine you are beaten by English nationalist in Scotland if you utter scottish/galeic words or put/pin/hold scottish flag. That is what happened with Hungarians living in west ukraine (who were cut from their mother country in 1920 by Treaty of Trianon). I live 50 miles form Ukraine border and we know. there is even a law, you can check, which forbids in school to use your own language in school. If you use/pin/waive Hungarian flag there you are beaten until you bleed. Same applies for Russians there. But you in the west media bubble do not hear these. The Minsk agreement was to assure these rights but Ukraine ignored it with the support of the west.
Zelensky has a multi million euro palace in Tuscana, Italy, he has had it even before he became president. Where do you think that money came from? His wealth is estimated 1,5 billion USD. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and is far from being a democracy
Russia cannot be beaten only talks give peace but USA does not want it. Even if Ukraine wins back all territories, what is guarantee Russia will not go back some months later? Nothing. So far 300+ billion USD was spent by the west for this war, third of it was stolen by corruption, and 2/3 went back to US weapon manufacturers.
Ukraine is in ruins, the economy is bankrupted, the people fled, those who stayed are in life lasting war shock. The war does not seem to end soon. There is no winner in this.
The solution is to respect the concern of Russia and for Ukraine to respect minority rights.
The beneficiaries of the war are USA and China. USA gas 4x more expensive than Russian, makes EU/Germany uncompetitive, end of EU economy. EU/UK will crush due to incompetent leaders who think a long term stable peace and prosperity in Europe is possible without or by "beating" Russia (whatever it means) and a strong European/German economy based on cheap Russian gas scares the hell out of the USA. Prospect of Ukraine joining NATO, NATO expansion and the oppression of minorities in ukraine led to this. This is the west paying the cost of freedom. the west decided to pay the »cost of freedom«, so pin the ukrainian flag onto your shirt and enjoy the western style of living while it lasts.
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Great comment. The BBC is such a prejudiced beast when it comes to geopolitical issues where western states have some apparently overwhelming national interest. It is a loathsome creature that hasn't the guts to stay neutral. Dispose of ALL such mainstream propagandists!
Thanks America for give the world the chance to see how powerful Russia is.
Yea I can see how weak Russia is😂
@@jamesondee1216NATO was defeated by the Taliban. I guess you’re all weak LOL
Powerful? Incompetent, horribly geared and willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands in meat waves. I don't think thats powerful at all.
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@@chrisblanco2980Well no. NATO mission was to hold back Taliban till democracy took root. NATO mission wasn't to kill all Taliban - because most joined Taliban to just earn a crust; and as such, Taliban soldiers themselves were never enemies of America - that was only those that did 911. It was wishful thinking by CIA that Afghanistan could become a United Democracy - the tribal system is one which ordinary Afghans identify with, not democracy. So America just withdraw by choice - not because Taliban started winning militarily.
I saw Ukraine advance backwards and Russia retreat forward in Adivka
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Thanks to bbc honest reporting
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We retreat courageously, enemy advances cowardly.
0:45 interesting eagle on the chest.
There is also a video of how these same guys raised their hands from their hearts to the sun when they entered the city
Outgunned 10:1!?
Were you guys not winning?
Technically speaking they are. When the invasion first started look how much russia controlled compared to now.
You forgot that ukraine is fighting the biggest country in the world.
Your army is so garbage that it takes 2 years to take a single city, so you can't talk.
I love how the host says "Avdiivka is not a big deal"... 😂😂😂😂😂 Dude it was literally the heaviest defended town on the front line. It's over just accept it.
Strategically important too because it was the only stronghold that was put Dontesk within range of the majority of Ukraine's artillery systems.
Without Andiivka bombarding Dontesk, Dontesk can fully function as a main logistical hub for the Russian military which means their troops are getting the supplies they need.
Strategically important too because it was the only stronghold that was put Dontesk within range of the majority of Ukraine's artillery systems.
Without Andiivka bombarding Dontesk, Dontesk can fully function as a main logistical hub for the Russian military which means their troops are getting the supplies they need.
The "dude" het paid for it,it's callled propaganda
Like Bakhmut before.
someday bbc will tell us Kyiv is not a big deal.
Zelensky 1 month ago: we will defend avdiivka at any cost.
Zelensky yesterday : avdiivka is not that important
Забыл😅
These two statements sound very hypocritical! Maybe he thinks that we have no brain 🤔????
Are you stupid man?
"avdiivka is not that important"
Where did he say that? I was under the impression that, being massively out-gunned (thanks to certain gutless and conscience-free folk in the West), he decided that in order to avoid the slaughter of all his troops in the area, the most sensible thing would be to pull them back. Rhetoric is sometimes necessary for buoying up morale - but it's bullets, bombs, and shells that win wars. What would YOU have done in his position?
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"he thinks that we have no brain"
Judging from many of the senseless remarks from teenage-brained UA-camrs - especially those who seem to WANT Ukraine to lose this war against Evil - he'd be QUITE correct!
Not Avdiivka. It is Avdeevka now. Learn it.
But I thought Russia ran out of weapons due to trying to shoot down the Ghost of Kiev😂😂😂
You're a degenerate
Vatnik bots try not to make up random scenarios challenge: (Impossible)
@@rk4138 мама твоя bots trying not to cope challenge (impossible)
@@rk4138 у проебалтов если мнение отличается, то сразу бот?
Lol😂
Avdeevka - an insignificant town ? It was a major fortress since 2014 , and a source of shelling of the Donetsk city residential areas . By falling , that fortress , there is no other one on the way of Russians until they hit Dnipro river . What a lot of bull you are selling here again , BBC.
Watch the New Atlas for interesting analysis.
Why then Russia bang its head on a fortress for 5 months instead of going around it?
Ukraine is blaming the us for not giving them enough money for their military. Learn how to fight stop asking us for help
Did someone pay attention to what kind of a patch this 1st ukrainian soldier been wearing ?
Это копия нацистского шеврона Гитлеровской Германии. Но вы ведь не верите в нацистов в Украине?))))
Russia's entire defense budget is 85 billion dollars whereas the United States has sent almost 200 billion to Ukraine and they want us to believe it's a shortage of supplies is the cause for Ukraine's losses.
Read up on purchasing power of militaries … 200bn might not go too far at prices Raytheon charge.
@@abbx022 You know, you have dictators who accept a level of corruption so long as it doesn't threaten the nation. Then you have dictators who will accept and help with milking the country to death. I sometimes wonder where American leaders fall.
@abbx022 Looks like Russia hits more bang for the buck than the US. But then again, Raytheon has to charge more to give kickbacks to the politicians who continue wars.
Western weapon cost 10 times more
That was in 2022,and pre-war spending. It's risen to well over 115 billion in 2023 and could increase to 160 billion in 2024.
You should stay off Wikipedia. 😂
По новостям сказали, что в Авдеевке завезли новые унитазы и стиральные машины, и мы не удержались. Пришлось взять и Авдеевку, отрицательно отступая 😅
Ходите с бумажными картами, стороны света по мху определяете... Ваши перепутали восток с западом при отступлении, так и говорите!
It's interesting how the Nazis calculating opposite side army casualties when they retreat loosing shit???
Солдаты РФ это реальная сила. 🇷🇺
The loss of this city must have been a huge blow to this UK state media.
😂Как и всегда
Biggest problem is elenski lost his precious coke plant in avdivka and he is crying now😂😂😂😂
Увидишь еще раз когда года ломик введенный тебе в жопу бесконтрольно выйдет через то место где у людей бывает мозг.
They'll move on to the next Ukrainian victory. It's when you see the mainstream media outlets laying off staff, that's when you know they're in trouble because nobody is watching them anymore.
@@user-qb3og5iu3r Certainly, but at the expense of credibility. Unfortunately, independent and neutral journalism is now dead at the MSM level. In the world, which is not the West, we are making ourselves laugh because of the hypocrisy of our media.
Don't worry about Russia's losses, concern yourself with your own losses(which you never disclose).
Nah, it's embarassing for a military to lose as many men as Russia has.
Yet Russians keep advancing, if they indeed did get huge number of losses then Ukraine would move forward@@mburton6187
@@mburton6187and you believe Zelensky's numbers right, or the CNN???
@@mburton6187clown
@@mburton6187 When last did NATO wage war against a near peer competitor? They've always been fighting goat herders with no tanks or air defence.
Interesting that the 1st "Ukrainian" soldier shown on screen has an American flag on his helmet.
This is an genuine question: Why BBC and other western media insist on trusting Ukrainian authorities when it comes to the number of Russian soldiers death? And why the Ukrainians don't talk about the 1000 and 1000 of their own soldiers KIA? I understand that you want Ukraine to win, but can you do your job which is to report the facts?
BBC, CNN, NBC, ABC...all fake propaganda outlets. They dont report, they repeat what they are told to say by the Elite.
I'm afraid the truth is the first to die in war. The only way is to find reliable sources from both sides on the internet.
You get it wrong.
It was never their job to report facts.
That was the lie they told us.
Been saying this since 2022. People complain about Russian propaganda but regurgitate Ukrainian propaganda like it is gospel.
The news stopped being unbiased years ago ...
If Russia suffered the heaviest losses how come Ukrainian soldiers are withdrawing
They were outnumbered in the area about 6 Russians to 1 Ukrainian.
On the fields they can hold off Russia easier than the city, which is why they only withdrew once the Russians entered the city in higher numbers.
They are supposed to be 10percent out of hundred Rus..army according to western news how come they outnumbered😂@@NanoNaps
@@NanoNaps "On the fields they can hold off Russia easier than the city"
Are you out of your mind? That's not how it works. You barely can hold the fields, but fight within city can be done indefinetely with comaparable powers.
@@NanoNapsbut as a report, most of the countries are helping Ukraine with both weapons and man power.
And I have some videos where uk, Australia, Poland, new Zealand soldiers fighting alongside Ukraine soldiers whereas russia is fighting alone so, how is it possible that russia has more man than Ukraine ??🤔🤔🤔
Russia has been abandoned by the whole world but still they have capabilities to walk forward
@@mobilelegend1458 Russian sources claimed 6k Ukrainian soldiers and they themselves deployed 40-50k
Regain territory?... keep it up with the delirious ideas
so it looks like russians got new batch of washing machines and freshly made shovels... wonder what model of washing machine is in question, lg or siemens? asking for a friend
The worst missile that blew up in Kiev was called Boris Johnson.
😂😂😂😂
This warmonger should be in the trench.
Indeed. What fools the Ukrainian leaders must be to have listened to that clown.
- Russia lost half of their military in Avdeevka
- Russia ran out of tanks in this advancement
- Putin sending human waves
- They are fighting with shovels
- This town has no strategic importance
- We lost cuz Merica didn't hand us money
Spot on , well said , they keep spoonfeeding us this crap
Stupid man or woman
Read history about Russia
Hopefully you will understand that Russian army was never beaten if you have capability to understand that
- Ukraine is winning
@@alexref955... in our hearts
@@walterbrunswick Funny you said that, cause that's what Zelensky said when they lost Bakhmut, which was also strategically not important.
How houties are doing, retreating forward it seems?
I thought Russia had run out of ammunition two years ago.
“We will turn the ruble into rubble” two years later and this year the Russian economy grew more than that of the G7 nations. Go figure!😂
Russian GDP declined last year, now lately it's been slowly going back up. Stop spreading false narritive commie.
IMF states Russia will be third best in 2024
You're a degenerate
Yet the quality of life is still some of the worst in the world and poverty and alcoholism is exponentially high and the middle class is non-existent
@@rk4138who told you that? Some "trusted" news like BBC, or maybe CNN..it look like your IQ is the size of your shoes, no offense 😂
Those Russian shovels and washing machines are dangerous man.
And then news came from the United States to intimidate the layman that Russia has a large nuclear shovel in space. This shovel can not only dig up 3,000 satellites of the USA and Great Britain. The Russians have a top secret chip from the washing machine that generates the torque of this shovel.
Other countries should stop selling washing machines to Russia.
@@andrewbreeze3481😂
@@andrewbreeze3481 And then news came from the United States to intimidate the layman that Russia has a large nuclear shovel in space. This shovel can not only dig up 3,000 satellites of the USA and Great Britain. The Russians have a top secret chip from the washing machine that generates the torque of this shovel.
Waoh how did they get the numbers from?
0.45 - american flag on the helmet?
Could CNN explain why Ukraine needs a extra 500,000 civilians conscripted into the military or why Ukraine is constructing a grave site for 1.5 million if there casualties are so low?
This is how money laundering machine works.
This is BBC
maybe because is a small country figthing a moster of a huge country ?
This is because the officers put the dead soldiers' pay into their own pockets as long as they are reported as alive. Afterwards, the dead soldiers are reported as "missing" so that no pension has to be paid to the widows. The Ukrainian way of dealing with civilians...
@@markhill7743 Get me a Lada.
Not bad for an army using shovels and human wave tactics
Apparently Russian shovels are extremely effective against the US equipment.
Bro, we also have helmets and telnyashki.
''We've lost 20% of our land... 3 of our strongholds, Mariupol, Bakhmut, Avdeevka. 400,000 of our troops killed, 700,000 injured, we have lost 50% of our economy, we are 5 trillion $ in debt but that works to our advantage and I'll be in Crimea sunbathing next summer.'' said Selenski as he sips fine wine in Germany.
German wine is not the finest. But Zelensky headed to France from there. Knows which side his bread is buttered.
400k killed and only 10k russians?
Where is Boris??
with Waldo?
Hiding 😂
Boris tries to put a plug in his ass with the image of Putin 🤣🤣🤣
Peppa Pig Land
Boris got booted out by Bad media coverage by BBC and SKY news , forced to resign over Parties and wall paper lol
That was not a retreat that was an escape. They called retreat to cover it up.
For 10 years, they fortified Avdeevka, and they still lost it. The Russians set up numerous defensive lines in a few months, the Ukrainians never managed to peirce the first line, something that even shocked the Russians!
What a shameful report by Bbc. Job in trying to sugar coat it 😅
never and thats again
Sure, but what is true is that the Russians are taking on crazy amount of losses to take little ground. In a war of attrition Russia does win, but Russians must be prepared to be okay having a war economy and population used for a pointless war tbh.
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You're a degenerate
This thread is unbelievable. The number of pro Russian bots and provocateurs trying to undermine Ukraine is a crime against humanity.
Ukraine’s top negotiator, Davyd Arakhamia: Russia was “prepared to end the war if we agreed to... neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.”
But the US and UK stood in the way
If that was russias goal, the integration of Finland and Sweden means it failed rapidly.....
Also russias baltic Nato borders are open now because it needed the troops in Ukraine, so much for the treat by NATO
@@duncan8437 The Finnish and Swedish military aren't made up of NAZI's who want to to occupy Crimea and they have tiny populations. There's no comparison.
@@truthseeker3140 WTF are you imbecile talking about?
So Ukraine wanted to join NATO for fear of a Russian invasion? _Ex post_ they were right.
@@duncan8437 Finland and Sweden were never a part of Russia, never had Russian language as the most common spoken in their countries nor their are Slavic Nations, Therefore those two are irrelevant.
Actually it's Ukraine who've suffered, by far, the heaviest losses, just like in Bakmut, as a result of of the questionable strategy of sending reinforcements to a town you have already lost.
Russia suffered huge loses they say, but yet it’s Ukraine who is running out of able man power to fight this war. This is like when they said Russia is weak & will run out of ammunition 😂😂😂😂😂 Who is running out of ammunition today ???? NATO has helped Russia become more powerful then ever. Russia is producing more ammunition then whole of NATO combined and Russia economy under the toughest sanctions has grown much faster then any economy among nato members…
For the worlds sake NATO needs to except defeat and this war before most of males in Ukraine are wiped out by this war.
I wonder how they know exactly how many Russian soldiers have died and not theirs
They don’t. It’s the usual BS they tell the stupid media. They claim to be out killing the Russians 10-1 yet are clearly loosing. It’s all propaganda.
They dont.. they are lying just to turn their defeat into a victory.
They make it up as it go we all know that by now!😄
Dont you get it? They have been sugarcoating the war all the time... Their offensive died after some days.. they lost another town.. Russia was running out of shells... Russia has only washing machine microchips...
RuSSians do not care how many already were killed.
I see the blame game has already started 😁👏
Now it is time for the peak reporting professionals of the BBC to claim that "Avdeevka is a small town of little strategic importance" 😁
But it's true that it's not change the course of the war and that is zelensky's regime defeated
🤣😂😆👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻
As a spectator I really like to watch the blame game.. I try my luck and skill to try and guess who will blame who next.
You're a degenerate
@@bigmock141 Well yes, Ukraine have been on a losing end since Bahkmut, so losing Avdiivka is just going the same exact conclusion...
It wasn’t a matter of if, but when. The unthinkable didn’t happened, but rather the inevitable.
Amazing that BBC didn`t close the comment section yet.
Who ever posted that Ukraine are top 20 powerful military please delete it wahahahahahaha
It’s amazing what shovels can achieve
I remember that BBC said that Russia has no rocket anymore 😂
Have you heard about the shovel code-named Sunshine and Breakthrough?
Why is it that nato is not sending in shovels?
Russia is using them successfully
And then news came from the United States to intimidate the layman that Russia has a large nuclear shovel in space. This shovel can not only dig up 3,000 satellites of the USA and Great Britain. The Russians have a top secret chip from the washing machine that generates the torque of this shovel.
thats a lot of DAMAGE!
The idea of defeating Russia itself looks so stupid.
What will do the US if China builds a military base in Mexico?
Almost as stupid as the names russian bots get assigned to on youtube these days. I mean come on, at least try to look like a real person.
you are right!
It always did.
If the nazi's couldn't, the whole army of NATO combined cannot either. Russia still has tradional values and patriotism. We have bluehaired people who think they're animals and bark as a protest for their animal identity
its that an latest update??
It is absurd to take the ukrainian claim of russian casualties true for granted. Everyman with little knowledge if the event know that the ukrainian are the ones who are suffering the heavies casualties.
But I thought Russia was running out of shells, ammo, and tanks and are fighting with shovels?????
They are completely out...they are using sticks now. And eating mud.
Don't forget: Putin has died three times already
@@BokicaK1said nobody but you
@@Xusemehoh no😮
I believe china is supplying Russia.
The way you guys sugar coat this is beyond comprehension like Adviika is small town with no significant. You got to remember that Adviika is the most fortified city in whole Ukraine which means no other city or town are safe
EXACTLY
Not true, just old soviet thinking, a problem that both sites have, fight for name insteed of actually gain.
You're a degenerate
@@peterandersson1230
советское мышление?
это как?
в авдеевке саиые укрепленные сооружения строились еще до 2014г!
@@peterandersson1230 No, there is a reason why the Ukrainians heavily fortified Avdiivka, which is to keep the major logistical hub of Donetsk.... Now that is freed from the Ukrainian artillery threat....All those concrete road can now transport Russian resources to the front with relative ease...
Also, after Avdiivka, the Ukrainians no longer have any major defensive obstacle to rely on and it would take the Ukrainians years to make anything close to that level of fortification...
Ukrainians must negotiate before their situation gets worse than it already it.
fk around with Rssia and find out
average age of the Ukrainian army went from 26 years to 45
But younger Ukrainian males are partying in "Kiev."
@@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq No they are actually fighting. Unlike the "Russian" males who have all fled to neighboring countries🤣🤣🤣🤣
now it's 60 plus
@@rk4138 do you realize Zelensky is trying to get countries to send ukrainian who fled back to Ukraine so they can be drafted ?
Lol
Ukraine has the right to protect itself against Zelensky
As it did against russia and russian puppet yanokovic
Well, Ukraine is a democracy where Russia is an Autocracy. So, Ukraine can just vote for someone else. The Russian people cannot...
oh we found the vatnik russian
@@brianrasmussen2956 voting was literally banned in ukraine. what are you smokin?
@@MrGenexxx Well happily not the same you are. As I know from independent sources that Ukraine is a democracy.
How did Russia achive this without fuel, food, ammunition and warm bodies?
I doubt the Ukrainians or Russians could give a precise figure on their own casualties in Avdiivka, let alone the enemy's. The 47000 Russian casualties is just pulling a number out of your arse. Given Russia has a 10/1 shell advantage, localised air superiority and Ukraine will suffered in a chaotic retreat I don't think the casualty ratio is anywhere near what the Ukrainians say
But "professional" Western Media take it at face value. They fact check NOTHING. They investigate nothing. They are a propaganda machine worse than RT.
If you look at what some think tanks have published, these figures are utterly inflated.
facts
facts
Of course
Больше 500000 погибло солдат украины. Прилетает фаб и стирает позиции украины в пыль
BBC, do you see what shovels and refrigerator chips could do in the battlefield?
And then news came from the United States to intimidate the layman that Russia has a large nuclear shovel in space. This shovel can not only dig up 3,000 satellites of the USA and Great Britain. The Russians have a top secret chip from the washing machine that generates the torque of this shovel.
Hahahaha😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😄😄😄😄
News came from the United States to intimidate the layman that Russia has a large nuclear shovel in space. This shovel can not only dig up 3,000 satellites of the USA and Great Britain. The Russians have a top secret chip from the washing machine that generates the torque of this shovel.
😂😂😂
Ukrainian soldiers were running without guns is that retreat or running for life 🤣🤣
По всем фронтам Украина ведëт храброе наступление к себе в тыл. Благородные, расовочистые солдаты "Азов" великодушно оставляют технику, которая стоит миллионы евро и миллионы долларов, своему врагу. Россия теряет по 470 000 солдат в месяц... нет, в день, тогда же как потери Украины настолько малы, что Бог не придумал эти числа, потому мы их не называем. ❤❤❤❤
Wow how did Russia manage to do this? Didn't they completely run out of cruise missiles back in September???
Never underestimate the elite shovels!
In September 2014 already.
Вот так вас обманывают ваши СМИ, Украинские пропагандисты и ваши правители 😊
How did they manage to caputre a town at their border after just two years? Yeah strong indeed
They won it because of their demoralized soldiers who fear the brave Ukrainians.
Very simple reason, Russia can make way much more drones and 155 artillery shells than nato.
Western media: avdiivka is not really necessary and the Russians suffered tremendous losses 😂😂😂
George Orwell - 'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'
47000 casualties, source: trust me bro
Yes,it's much higher.
It's much higher
@@russianinvader3207 lol, much higher and ukraine is running out of men. ''russianazi'' still won.
@@Darkseidsolosfiction yeah , you are keybord expert know everything , just sitting there on sofa and play kids games
Notice we don't see the video of the same group of soldiers arriving a few days early giving a naughty salute.
Yeah, they didn't show the footage of the Ukrainian fascists sieg heiling but missed the Nazi Eagle patch on the chest of the soldier they did show retreating. Yet the BBC constantly broadcasts that 'there are no Nazis in Ukraine!'
Nato: don't want to sent million of promised shells. "Just go and fight them"
Ukrainians: *retreats because of lack of ammunition*
NATO: "OMG, how it possible, mb they just don't want to win? "
Russia can handle its loses ....Ukraine can't.Its just a matter of time
we gotta find out what the Russians are doing to their shovels to make them that deadly
The cope is crazy
They have a spring that shoots a deadly arrow.
@@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq so, like a gun, but sucky😂
They have embedded microwave chips in them
These people are all lying to you, an Orthodox priest baptizes the shovel in vodka, gives it a name and hands it back to the soldier who smiles like a proud father.
What withdrawal you talking about,its total defeat.
47k lost out of 50k total strength there? Wow … And what stopped AFU from eliminating the other 3k?
Miracle bro Miracle of Western mainstream media
The remaining 3K are gigachads😂
those 3k are spartans comrade
Its BS western media says a lot of BS
@@l0necroc 3k SpaceMarines of God-Emperor)