3 Ways to Help You Take Your Cycling to the Next Level!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- If you're looking to take your cycling to the next level, then look no further! In this video, we'll show you some tips on how to improve your cycling skills.
From a good bike fit to using proper cadence, we have everything you need to take your cycling to the next level. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned cyclist, the tips in this video will help.
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Riding in a group is an art form that has to be studied and practiced. The faster and tighter, the more difficult is becomes. I'm happy to lead, and I'm happy to sit on the back if we have a couple of heroes. I'm much less comfortable in the middle. I'm also more than happy, in my little club, to act as ride buddy for someone who's getting dropped on our so-called "no-drop" rides. I've made a couple of good friends that way. Since I have no interest in racing, and since at nearly 63 I don't heal as fast as I used to, avoiding tight groups, especially those that include riders whose level of skill and alertness I don't know, is what I call a wise choice.
Good thoughts there Ranger! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Wish I had someone like you around. Just getting into cycling after a long break from a back injury. I'm definitely not that quick but I enjoy it. Ride safe
@@carsthatgoboom4854 You probably _do_ have, just haven't found him or her yet.
I tell everyone I know about your channel. Believe me, you are down to earth in your videos.
Thank you Mario🙏🏾
I really appreciate your support tonthe channel👍🏾
Cadence awareness really has been a game changer as has bike fit. This past winter i bought a wahoo core kikr and using this i managed to fine tune my fit and make my hand numbness almost entirely go away and gain the numerical insight into how fast i was spinning and the impact on power and sustainability. Im an older 63, riding only 3 years but do 40-60 mile rides1-2/wk and longer when we finally get stretches of good weather where i live. Plus alps 😮
Bike fit is worth it's weight in gold. We have a great bike fitter in our area. He and his wife used to own a Bike Doctor store, but sold out and now all they do are bike fits. They have a smaller shop that is more personable and during your appointment it is only you and bike fitter. I was having some serious but pain. It would kick in within about 10-15 minutes on the bike. I don't know what happened but those saddles used to be ok. I had him to a saddle pressure test and sure enough, it highlighted the pain area, which was mainly on the left side. We tested about 4 or 5 saddles before we found the best fit, plus he did a refit. I guess things change over time. Like you, I have some issues (nerve issue in left leg) and one leg shorter than the other that had to be fixed via cleat wedges. Like a car, I have to get tuned every so often.
Thanks for sharing. Over the years I have heard good stuff about bike doctor in Maryland 👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Yeah the Bike Doctor in Waldorf had excellent customer service in my opinion. Chris and Teresa open a new shop and now only do bike fits. Chris is very serious about his work, too. I enjoy working with them. They are well know and book solid every day. I always recommend them for bike fits.
This guy is killing it on his steel Bianchi. Makes my heart swell. Keep it up
Thanks Alex👍🏾
Thanks for the advice regarding cadence at higher speeds. What you’re saying, one might argue, is common sense; but as we all learn over time (I’m 65), common sense is not so common. Thanks again for sharing relevant commentary with your audience 👍🏽
Thank you mohawkin👍🏾
It’s so nice to see people on steel/Ti bikes. Everyone is buying/ riding carbon bikes. Carbon bikes are disposable bikes.
I know its fun to say carbon bikes are disposable, truth is of course even the old questionable carbon bikes, many just keep going and going and going no problem. Carbon has improved ten fold over the last 10 years , they are way better now.
Carbon fiber is used in many high stress high tech fields, for a reason, it can be strong and stiff and light.
Its technology that keeps improving and getting better. I have 2 high quality steel bikes, they're great! So are my late model carbon bikes. I do draw the line at aluminum though.
Another great video. Thank you for all you do.
Thx for the tips!
You are welcome👍🏾
Just found your channel and subscribed after watching 3 videos. I love your way of presenting and discussing different topics, and I esp love your obvious passion for bringing cyclist together. Thanks 🙂
Thank you for the support 👍🏾
Great points of discussion here. Video was on point!👌
Thank you Patrick!
Great video! Very sensible perspective. Thanks
Thank you Greg👍🏾
Well done.
Thank you Ed!
Always sensible, excellent advice!
Thank you Gondwana👍🏾
Thanks for the video
Thank you for watching Stephen👍🏾
Huge thank you! Great information for some new road cyclist.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. All this is very helpful
Hey Stefan! Thanks Brother👍🏾
Helpful video. Thank you
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Great video. ❤
Thank you Armand👍🏾
Agreed wholeheartedly 🙏 very important points you made here.
Havefunandbikestuff! Thank you for watching👍🏾
Great info thank you
Thanks for watching👍🏾
Pleasant video to watch.
Thank you!
Love that bar tape colour!
Thank you Luke!
Appreciate your wisdom. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching👍🏾
finally, some real world knowledge. Thank you for making this video. Im new to the sport, from MTB. This helps so much. Subscribed!
Thank you Cash!
Thank you for the explaination bro..
You are welcome Sir!
Top tips 👍
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Dope content. Nicely done sir :)
Thank you! Much appreciated 👍🏾
Again Louis,your so on point,I think we have a lot in common with our experiences,great advice !👍
Thank you Brads!
Great informative video 👌
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Great video and learned a few new things. 👌
Thank you Lillian👍🏾
Agree. Skills are woefully missing in 99% of most cyclists while they ride $6000.00+ bike. I'm an Xpro cyclist and ride a $400 bike that after making it the strongest bike in the world, and long-distance necessities: pedals, rack, rack bag, aero-bars, gearing, tires, wheels, cost about $1000.00. High end, high-cost bikes aren't worth talking about for recreational riders.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍🏾
Your experience and insight are invaluable! Love the channel!
Thank you Jeff👍🏾
Can’t wait to back out there blessings to you brother 😎
Thank you Murphy!
Love the Bianchi. Thanks for video.
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Awesome advice. Thanks. I realized that over riding and over training can be very detrimental. So keep the century rides to a minimum. I often ride 1.5 to 2 hours and I can achieve much HIT in this ride and I recover quickly. The body needs food and rest to recover and get stronger. Riding all the time is actually hindering the recovery process. I never ride more than 6 or 7k kilometers per year and I am perfectly happy. And I've achieved excellent results in the many Sportive events I've completed.
Sound advice there James! Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Really glad I found your channel, excellent real life tips!! 😎☮️
I am glad you found us also! Thanks for watching Raymond👍🏾
Thanks for the info I'll be sure to get my bike properly fitted.
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When you have been cycling for a while those little details and tweaks really help. Thank for sharing bro…👍🏼
Thank you Rey! I appreciate you watching 👍🏾
Luis...that was very good.Thx👊🏾
Hey Erich! Thank you Brother👊🏾
Honestly this one of best channels. Great videos
Wow, thanks Larry!
Everything advice is on the money,Wow straight from the book shelf!👏👏👏
Thanks Brad!
Just subscribed. Sooooooo many rim brake bikes in ONE group? Heaven! Yessssssssssss!
Lol.
Fitting right on the bike made night and day for me,and the thing at the end of constant pressure on the pedals is another gem.
I don't have a cadence meter but i feel when i'm revving too high cause i'm not sitting firm on the saddle.
Your videos are always informative
Hi Nahuel! Thanks for sharing that👍🏾
Excellent video, thank you!
Thank you Jim!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge of cycling I appreciate and thank you for your patience and the time you put in to make videos for the beginners to well experience. Thank you so much
Thank you Alonzo, I appreciate that👍🏾
I find that a higher cadence in a pace line helps me to maintain an even speed and prevent a yo-yo effect. If I push a harder gear I end up getting too close to the rider infront and freewheeling.
i really enjoy your content and you deserve double your subs sir. thank you for your good work
Thanks for that Gufo👍🏾
Oh wow I never would have thought about the jumping in thing!! I’m new to cycling so I’m glad you told me cause I woulda tried to jump in 😅!
Hi Shadaymona! Well I am glad that tip helped👍🏾
All great intel. I'd add, in addition to fitters being a PT/Dr and cyclist, a bike fitter fit should have a day zero, day 14, day 30 or 60 follow up sequence and include a 3 point plan for off bike stretch/strengthening, as like Luis, I see most cyclists problems after a fit have to do with physical Imbalance which is most evident when they are fatiqued, and that is keeping riders from pain free riding. Better yet go for a ride with your fitter. Let them see your form after a couple of hours on the bike, or do 90 minutes on the wind trainer ( or bring your own and do that in the parking lot) in their facility before the fit session so they can see you 'not fresh' and you'll get more out of it.
Agreed with the fit after you fatigue. Also, going on a ride with a fitter would be amazing👍🏾
great video and these are underrated skills because you can be stupidly strong on the turbo trainer but not having all of these skills or even just missing one of them and you will be comprimised on the road.
Thank you Robert 👍🏾
Very helpful thank you very much
Thanks for watching Raul!
My pleasure! Keep up with the great content. It has helped me out tremendously. I just started cycling and your videos have gave me so much insight. I’m even interesting in owning a steal bike now lol
Always good suggestions. I enjoy learning from you ❤ Happy Valentine's Day
Hey Linda! Good to hear from you ❤
Happy Valentines to you as well👍🏾
My two favorite biking channels are "Two wheel cruise" and SAFA Brian, but adding some of your videos to the list. Thx. Good stuff
Thank you. I have watched and enjoy both of those channels👍🏾
Agreed proper form on the bike is so important and needs to tweaked from time to time. When you have the proper form on the bike you actually look good on the bike. Relaxed and locked into form. This is something I work.
Absolutely Charles!
Just recently found your channel.
I love it.
Thank you
Thank you!
Great information and advice. Another issue with paceline to consider. Not only hold your line behind cyclist in front but also laterally maintain position (reference road stripe). Even if person in front is displaying a lot of variability, if you can reduce/eliminate vice propagating - it will make the paceline safer and more efficient. Love the channel. You should hit the road in Florida and do some guest appearances.
Hi Ty! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts... I pop up to Orlando every now and again for rides👍🏾
great job! Out in the boonies, this longtime cyclist doesn't get many group rides in. smoothness, and fit is something we can all feel though. If "you" don't feel smooth, then something is out of wack! pay attention to your body, if you are fighting the bike or beaten up by it after the ride, get help!! Great vid Luis!
Thanks for sharing your insights Ron👍🏾
I actually learned something useful although I've never participated in a group ride. Great content as usual
I am so glad to hear that. I appreciate you watching👍🏾
Great video, thanks! In regards to cadence, when I'm riding with others I always go up a few gears when I'm ready to get my bottle. It helps me to be stable and track straight while I'm getting a drink. Like you said, it helps with stability to have steady pressure and a lower cadence in those situations.
Indeed! Thanks for sharing Eric👍🏾
Luis great vid, sound advice. My observation is the most knowledgeable riders have evolved their current bike fit over time, recognise it may change, know what to look for which may prompt a review. Once on the bike it’s all about smoothness, consistency, predictability, anticipating adjustments from other rider’s from their body language, holding your line and good dynamic communications, working in a communal effort,……….and thats learned from practising with more experienced riders in groups.
Thank you Kevin! I could not agree more with your insights 👍🏾
Loved it! Thanks so much. I'm 78 yo and don't/can't group ride, but I do appreciate the awareness and most importantly the cadence. There seems to be a cadence span that I just seem to love, 85-90. Not that is levelish and boy does it drop on hills here in Colorado. Thanks again, blessings. Jim
Thank you Jim. Hope you continue to ride in good health👍🏾
Norcal is where I bought my electric fun road bike for over $4000 but I love it.
My back feels better with this bike...
I have ALOT More Fun Going Up Hills.....
FUN FUN FUN IS THE GAME PLAN NOW...
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your roadbike design its cool color light amber green!
Hi Vincent! Thanks for watching👍🏾
Great video Luis. I agree that a bike must fit because if it doesn't people tend to loose their intrest in cycling. If new cyclists attend in your'e group do they get to know some rules? What also helps to get fit is a smart trainer. It took my fitness to the next level thanks to structured workouts. A lot of people think that they have to ride fast to become better.
Hi Carlo. I only try to do structured rides these days or small groups where the rules are discussed. Thanks for sharing your insights with us👍🏾
Interesting thoughts from an experienced cyclist! Nice video! (FWIW I like this length of the video)
Thank you Tom!
You just made such a valid argument about frame size. So I don't have any back problems or weird body angle issues, I'm 5'9 and I ride a 55cm frame with a shorter stem, my levers are angled a bit up. and idk if any of you guys have this issue, the junk issue, but I gotta have my saddle slightly to a side or I get the slip slop in my kit. 😂
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New road cyclist here. Your clips are very informative and actually enjoyable to watch. Your 'cadence' in delivery is primo. A mate (more experienced roadie) took me out for a ride and I felt that when I was doing the higher cadence or spinning, that it felt poor to me. There was rocking and I did not like the absence of pedal pressure. I'm trying to find what's right for me and your thoughts and experiences in this clip, resonates with me.
Nice! Thank you for sharing that with me👍🏾
Luis, again another great video and great information. In a group when you need to fill gaps or jump to a acceleration you need to be in a lower gear than what feels comfortable so all you need to do is quickly increase your cadence and then spin up to the wheel. This is a exercise I do on the bike. I call them spin ups. You pick a point on the road, a sign or a phone pole and you stay seated and as jump as hard as you can for 30 seconds, repeat this 5 or 10 times and you will see that in group rides you will be able to go with the changes of pace and also be safer in the group. High cadence training is essential for group rides. Viva Velo, Grand Junction Colorado
Thank you for sharing your insights Thomas👍🏾
It's important to know your drivetrain and how many revs you're going to lose or gain going up or down the cluster. It's much easier to accelerate in your current gear, even if you're already turning 90-ish rpm, than it is to upshift and play cadence catch-up. The wider your gear spacing, the more important holding your gear to accelerate becomes. Sometimes even a brief downshift, like in a car, can make the difference in holding a wheel or not, but you're almost always better off to just hold your gear.
Appreciate the insights. Cadence has a lot to do on whether the person is relying on aerobic power or muscle to maintain their speed. People that have a weak (or developing) muscle structure will tend to rely more on their heart doing more of the work (hence a higher cadence). People with well-developed muscles will rely on those muscles performing rather than taxing their HR more. I understand your point about the subject but there's more physiology behind it than what you touch on.
Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Another great video! I realized I do almost all of the things you recommend from decades of riding and racing. The problem is, it took decades to learn them all. Your video will be a great help to people and shorten the learning curve.
I see some Juin brakes in the background. I am curious about them since I like to use mechanical shift and brake levers with my gravel disc bike.
Hi David! Thank you for those encouraging words. The Juin have worked very good so far and I will be doing a short review of them soon👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel The Juin Tech's are great. I have them on a new gravel build and they are very close to GRX hydro's in performance.
Cadence talk👍
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And here I was hoping you would cover how to drink while on the bike. I can still pedal, but I swerve a little, which seems like it would be bad in a group situation. Still, great stuff on your channel man.
Thanks for watching. Perhaps a topic for a future video👍🏾
Good video
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You said 53.5 which is exactly my size nice to hear respect
Thank you Everton. Respect!
Luis, I have an idea for a video. Show how you have your cameras set up on your bike and the type of camera and if you have used others you don't particularly like. I would love to get video like yours as long as it doesn't get in the way of my concentration and enjoyment of riding.
Thanks for the suggestion Mario👍🏾
Very beneficial friend. I like your style. Reasonably logical.
Thank you Shane👍🏾
It's all you LS. You don't waste time, you educate. That's it. Your channel is in top shape
@@shanelamereux9878 big thanks
Ride on bro :)
This video is so important the 14 / 15 /16 year olds listen to you and think im to old bike handling skills as you show at the very start of your video knees in stem length saddle height leg length normally one leg is longer than the other so we need to compensate ... love the video, Thank you .
Thank you David! What's the name of your junior cycling team👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel The Irish Road Club Jr's we are not publicity seekers we help young potential racers whose families cannot afford to bring the girl or Boy to the next level 8 is our maximum.
Enjoying your videos! This enables me to keep on pedalling. Question, I respect the choice of steel -- why not Titanium? I recently purchased a new Litespeed to replace an old Airborne Zeppelin Ti. I find these bikes capable of out lasting us lol.
Hi! I appreciate that. I think that Ti is better performing than steel, it just feels different... and thise are very subtle. My opinion is that if you can get a good Ti frame you absolutely should. 👍🏾
I desagree on the method, Shimano 3d bikefit with a bike simulator machine not putting your bike on a roller for example accounts for all those imperfections.
I always do a pre bikefit before i buy a bike.
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Been enjoying your detailed and useful videos. Just wondering if you might add a speedometer with both MPH and KmPH for us Canuks. Thanks 🙂
Thank you Cyrus. I will see about doing that.👍🏾
Good points ! You should definitely have the guy riding alongside you to get a bike fit asap, his seat is way too low 3:46 @luis scott 📌
Hi Dwayne! Yeah, I saw that as well. I have no idea who he is though. Thanks for your observation 👍🏾
great video. you should approach the art of DRAFTING which is so important in a group ride. want it or not you need your cycling buddies to survive. have a great ride and thanks
Great suggestion Andre!
Enjoyed your content bro. I’m an old dog trying to learn the sport at 62. My cycling fitness seems to have peeked to where each riding season I’m about at the same level. I get knee pains and prirformis major pain after each ride. Don’t know if that’s just age or if it’s something a bike fit can cure.
Thanks Ray! I would definitely explore a bike fit if you are having pain and discomfort 👍🏾
Santa Rosa Norcal cycling shop.
Thanks for sharing William
Still, a dynamite Bianchi. And good points of how important getting a bike fit is as we age.
Hey Will! Thank you, it's still riding sweet
spatial awareness is so important! Too often i see cyclist putting the group in danger by swerving/overtaking without looking first for potential hazards (other cyclists, cars, etc)
@kesmo agree spatial awareness, self control, consistency and consideration for all other riders in the group is what defines a ‘group ride’ for me.
Luis Scott through this channel and its contributors produces the best lessons in easily understood language on ‘How to Become A Proficient Cyclist’. Best source on YT 😇
Thank you edmassamo👍🏾
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Great explanation of a few critical points. Mixed experience group rides cause me fits. Always helps if the leaders are vocal and calm. But lost on how you fit such that you such a long stem on a 53.5 frame. Are you 6 + feet tall? You mentioned frame oversizing and I couldn't agree more. Always have thought manufacturers charts are 'generally up a size, but I also know flexible riders (strait leg standers who can put their palms to the floor) who can't get into the drops on any bike. Would love a video on that
Hi Ian! I am about 5'10 and I think my proportions are normal with pretty good flexibility. I can ride the drops on all my bikes as well. Thanks for watching👍🏾
Changing your pedal cadence/stroke arsenal of tools from minute to minute, hour to hour, on a ride is a high skill necessity for efficiency. Continually changing pedal strokes and cadence is a high skill to keep you fresh. My cadence range with smooth pedal strokes is from 80 to 130, I have honed the smoothness of high cadence for over 50 years now. And now with shifting available without moving our hands, being at a high cadence and shifting up if the group is accelerating is not a problem. For anyone getting exhausted on rides by using the same cadence and pedal strokes the entire ride, you need to learn these new skills.
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1st time I’ve seen your channel. I’m now a subscriber. I’ve been cycling for 30 years and continue to learn. These basic riding tips were excellent. Kind of like Riding 101, but often overlooked or not revisited. Very well done. I’ll be back for more!
Thank you Mark! I am glad you enjoyed the content👍🏾
I learned some time ago, group rides are not for me! Riding a bike for tens of kilometers,is not a problem.. Riding in a group, adjusting my tempo to theirs, their route, being packed in the group, never again! I use bicycle every single day, since I don't own a car, so riding is not a problem! Adjusting to the group, other people, that is a problem for me,and I don't enjoy doing it! My long run bike rides are solo, relaxing,I take my time, and I never wear a spandex! Lol 😆
Greetings from Kris, from Croatia! All the best to you Luis!🙂
Hi KriS! Yes, I agree group rides is not for everyone... and you correctly stated that when you group ride you have to make adjustments👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Yeah! I discovered long time ago, that adjustments and me don't get along!😂
My last group ride was so frustrating,that after like 15 km,I turned my steel road bike,and I went my own way! I was never again asked into the group ride,and even if I would be asked,I would politely refuse! Riding should be a relaxing experience,and not be about proving something,and not about the endurance exercise! Take care Luis!😊
another great video ,,,any thoughts on an adjustable stem to change the height?
Hi Michael, I have never used one. I prefer that area of the bike to be as rigid as possible. It may be a good tool to help optimize a positions... but once figured I would find a rigid stem.👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Okay, thanks for your advice.
Great video! 👍🏿 quick question, how tall are you?
Thanks Rohan. I am about 5'10
I've actually never had a professional bike fit. I have done it myself based on research. I constantly evaluate myself to see if I can be more or less aggressive. Nothing wrong with having a professional do it but eventually just like he is saying here you are the one riding the bike . You know where the pain is coming form. Some people are more flexible than others. Some are more fit than others.
Thanks again Charles👍🏾
Louis do you mind breaking down what cadence really is for the beginners
Hi Alonzo. In it's simplest terms it is the amount of rotations one turns the pedals over every minute. So cadense or RPM (revolutions per minute) is expressed as 85rpm or 100rpm.
Everyone is different in terms of there uptimal cadence at any given speed. Hope that helps.
Great advice. I like your group riding awareness. I am a ride group leader and it is like herding cats at times. I always tell the group its a very different mentality to riding alone as you have to think about and ride for everyone around you and it takes practice and awareness.
Hi Petyr! Like hearding cats indeed👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel hi Luis, what are your thoughts on how to coach the group to be more coherent? Even though I brief the group carefully every ride, I still get people riding off the front, never looking back, pulling away from interections and dropping the group. I dont want to come over as a dictator but it is hard
do you have a video on hand signals?
Not yet... but it is on the list👍🏾
Another great video so thanks. I have had no luck finding a quality bike fitter in my area. I am in my early 50's and now have much more neck and hand discomfort than in my past while riding I live in Vero and am in Broward many times a year. Could to share the bike fitter your friend went to or someone else you trust? Thanks
I guess no reply? You seem to reply to most comments?
Hi TJ. Well, I try to respond to all.
Bike fit Dwayne, works out of citybikes in Aventura. Hope it works out👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Thank you. I apologize if my comment came off as snarky did not mean it too. Thanks for the info and your videos. They are really well done and helpful I am certain for lots of people.
Ok,so here is what we used to do..We have a group and me and Joe would do most of the pulling, yet being mountain bikers, we always need to pay attention to anyone getting in trouble. The last thing we want is for someone to be tired, try to push it, and end up hurt. When we get on the road, I spin around 90 and do a lot of the climbing up front. I also noticed from moving from road to mountains that the latter tend to be more polite ,easygoing, and looking to have fun. Even on charity rides, sometimes the roadies would try to sneer at us and drop us. Then we get into formation and me and Joe or someone else who can pull, hit that 45x11 and drop them instead.. I did sit in the famed Gimbel's Ride in Westchester yet of course when I took off up the Kensico Dam, they came up behind as a group and dropped me.Yeah,it was dumb to leave the peloton yet I needed to see the chase group do it's thing. I pretty much watch whom I ride with because I have already had my face split open and a rib broken by an inconsiderate rider. I have no respect for the snobbery and egos, and i will act upon things and change the whole complexion if need be . I refuse to be hurt, have my bike harmed, nor be bullied. As for fit,it's a process,and when i changed parts, I was able to take my time and dial in my position. Cannondale bikes were short, with a short wheelbase,so I found out for my frame size I needed different seatpost which allowed to move the saddle back more. Then I changed the stem and had it put upside down in the negative/attack position...etc,etc...
Thanks for sharing! We've all gotta look out for one another👍🏾
Luis, You look like you're pretty tall, in the videos at least, how tall are you? my other thought is how old you are because i saw on the same video that you had a heart rate of about 165 BPM. Comparing that to myself being 53, when i climb up a pretty steep hill my HR maxes att just under 160. By then my legs start to protest and i get the blood taste starting to turn up in my mouth 😃. While we're at it, how long cranks do you use? That's also a factor to dial in. Good informative video, especially for someone feeling a bit lost in the cycling jungle. Btw i'm not talking about myself, i've been at it for over 40 years now.