And with that the rock island auction company packs Ian back up into a wooden crate with plenty of good books on firearms and stores him in a cool dry place until Gun Jesus is called upon to spread the gospel of the boomstick once again
Get a service grade Garand from the CMP, new Criterion .308 Barrel, decent gunsmith, and you have an arguable more desirable shooter for $1,000-$1,200. Rack grade Garands are still available for $630.
Thanks for the videos again, these follow up videos really give you a picture of the current street value , im sure people will look back in 5 years and love the videos too. im guessing a knife guy got the knife gun , no gun guy would pay 30k for that thing but it could be a finishing touch on some amazing knife collection.
Ian, I strongly suggest you make a trip down to Camden south Carolina if you ever have a chance. we have a really nice archive here with one of the largest gun collections around. plenty of interesting weapons including a really neat air gun that Lewis and Clark carried in the Louisiana territory. like I said, if you can, try to make a trip to Camden south Carolina. the collection is really quite impressive. I recognized quite a few things too just because I watch your videos. anyway have a good day.
I think in Finland you'd get some punishment as well. It is kind a hard to get in jail here though :D My friend lost a magazine in the forest and the whole company had to search it until it was found.
That's vastly outside their value, i cannot find any source to show that they costed all that much more then a AK Type 1 rifle, since in all reality that's what it is. And in the US military, it depends, if your rifle is stolen and it's not of your fault, they just replace your firearm, if it's stolen/lost and it's your fault, you pay for the rifle and receive legal punishment, if you lose your firearm to damage caused by your own actions, you pay to replace it, if damaged in combat, they pay to replace it.
I thought of myself sitting down at the auction and bidding on something I really want finally getting all the low bids out of the way and the auctioneer says going once going twice and then all of a sudden I hear this low voice in the background outbid me and I turn around to see that it is the Messiah himself, gun Jesus and he has a look on his face like I will put a second mortgage on my house for this weapon. What do you do? I think I would just bow out and say you got this. There's not really any weapon on this world that I must own no matter what.
Ian , I always wanted to own a clairidge 9mm pistol from total recall, I really liked seeing that pistol in the movie when I was a kid and that stupid crime bill nosedives the company I believe I never heard about them again after 1993 94. I know it's just a straight blowback tube gun but they look cool and futuristic, I know I can still find them here and there.
Before this video I saw an advert for Candice Held boutiques. I'm in the UK and Ms Held seems to be operating in the US, so I'm not sure that she'll be thanking the advertising algorithm for *that*.
That doubl deuce blows my mind I really figured that would go for more I'm 5 years late even watching but I watched the RIA video on it and Ian's video I figured way more than 7k
Would you happen to remember if those Uzis came with any accessories? My FFL has a couple of these guys in great condition with cases and extra magazines.
A pity these never made full production. I'd jump on a .45 P38/P5/P5C or even a .45 Beretta 92 or Taurus PT-92/99/100/101. They at least had the PT-945, the closest thing I can think of to a .45 92 series and by extension a P38. It had the Beretta lower half but an enclosed slide and Browning locked breech.
.38 super is popular primarily because military calibres can not be owned by civilians in mexico that being the case i can see why perhaps a mexican collector may desire a .38 super p38
You say that a clamp on grenade launcher doesn't require a tax stamp as a destructive device but when attached to a firearm it'll have a bore over 0.5 inches, making it a destructive device. Are these just exempt or does the whole system of rifle and launcher require a stamp?
Generally not, but it depends on the sales agreement. For example, if a consigner insists on a reserve price higher than the auctioneer thinks is reasonable, they may agree that the consigner will pay a fee is the item doesn't sell, to cover the expenses of photography, shipping, marketing, etc.
I dont understand why scratches, wear and even dirt on antiques are considered to be a negative in america? Over here its appreciated because it shows possibly part of the story and age of an object.
I think whoever bought that GRAD probably did it because they had 10k to burn and thought such a stupidly ornate knifegun would go well with their collection of vintage Rolls-Royces
38 Super P-38 after WWII th 9mm was not popular in America, it might have gone the way of other surplus arms calibers, the 38 Super was American and had some following, in context of its era, a 38 Super conversion makes perfect sense. I think everyone who bought oneof his guns got a bargain. As for the big guns, their prices were stil too high for the use anyone could get from them. Utility has value.
It's no different at auction than in private sales. Better, actually, because auction companies can be held liable for fraudulent descriptions, so they will almost always tell you if something is real - as long as they are knowledgable enough to determine it themselves. They won't usually be very explicit about it, though - the key is to look for words like "style" and "type" - like "SS style markings" instead of "SS sniper rifle". That means its fake, and they are saying so without attracting attention to the fact. And ultimately, the best preventative measure is to educate yourself and know what you are buying or bidding on whether in an auction or any other transaction.
Thanks for the answer! I know nothing about these things but it seems to me that historic guns are such a niche market that someone with extensive knowledge on the subject could come up with some obscure weapon and produce a believable story around it. Or even just adding certain markings (there was a civilian rifle that if it had military markings you said it'd be worth a lot more). As with any expensive niche market there are always people with more money than brains that buy things just because they can. Talking about the high-end second-hand gun market as a whole, not so much auctions versus private sales. Again: thank you for your time, I've learned a lot from your videos. Very good for my english as well!
If I had trusted my gut and gotten into Bitcoin way back when I first heard about it, I could actually be bidding on these instead of gazing at the screen longingly.
Stop investing in electronic fiat currency.... If its backed by nothing, its just the electronic version of the US dollar.... Use your brains gentleman
Sadly in Canada we can't have a lot of the guns that you show in your videos but we can do one thing that you Americans can't and that's cut down the barrel as short as we want on restricted guns
toomanyaccounts actually we can own pistols with a 2 inch barrel there just restricted and we don't have to pay a tax to shorten the barrel of a long rifle as long as it's restricted.
You can cut down the barrel of a restricted long gun "as short as you want" in Canada? Bullshit, bud."According to the Criminal Code, a prohibited firearm is:b. a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, -is less than 660 mm in length, or -is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length"So cutting down the barrel of a restricted long gun "as short as you want" will result in you making said restricted long gun PROHIBITED. You should really read the Firearms Act as you clearly have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
"The VB grenade launcher definitely DOESN'T require a tax stamp because it is basically just a clamp on metal tube accessory ha." 8:30 Sorry what are suppressors then?
i have a question about GRAD knife. It seems to me that this one is fake, since there is NO info whatsoever in Russian about this knife, they havent been produced by Russians or sold or anything.
I love these final prices videos
i love all the "Forgotten Weapons" videos :P
Same. It gives me closure.
I love them, but they never fail at making me feel poor
@@lucignolo8333 because you are dirt, poor...
Shame he doesn't do them anymore
People thought I was crazy for paying 4 grand for my very early Valmet M62/S, looks like I did okay..
And with that the rock island auction company packs Ian back up into a wooden crate with plenty of good books on firearms and stores him in a cool dry place until Gun Jesus is called upon to spread the gospel of the boomstick once again
i drink gun oil in honor of gun jesus
Gah! $2,300 for that 7.62 Garand! What a steal.
Get a service grade Garand from the CMP, new Criterion .308 Barrel, decent gunsmith, and you have an arguable more desirable shooter for $1,000-$1,200. Rack grade Garands are still available for $630.
Don't butcher a good service grade!
A guy in in Pennsylvania named Shufflin does good work on Garands. Barrel, parkerize even convert to .308. Look him up.
@@blue4629 but its hard to get good ammunition for an M1 these days
I really like how you're doing these auction final price videos with your analysis and thoughts. Keep up the good work!
I find these videos just as interesting as the full historical videos you do. Keep it up, Ian. Definitely my favorite firearms channel on youtube.
Those P38 and Luger conversions were lovely....
Ian, thank you for doing these auction follow up videos. I really enjoy seeing what the firearms sell for.
Thanks for the update. It's greatly appreciated!
Thanks for the videos again, these follow up videos really give you a picture of the current street value , im sure people will look back in 5 years and love the videos too. im guessing a knife guy got the knife gun , no gun guy would pay 30k for that thing but it could be a finishing touch on some amazing knife collection.
Bet that Bolo bayonet woulda sold for more if it was Marble Fade
That Luger carbine... five grand of pure beauty
Ian, I strongly suggest you make a trip down to Camden south Carolina if you ever have a chance. we have a really nice archive here with one of the largest gun collections around. plenty of interesting weapons including a really neat air gun that Lewis and Clark carried in the Louisiana territory. like I said, if you can, try to make a trip to Camden south Carolina. the collection is really quite impressive. I recognized quite a few things too just because I watch your videos. anyway have a good day.
Wish I had money I would have bid on that Martz .38super.
Its interesting to have a follow up. I am not surprised by the big bore guns not doing well. Very specialist. As usually great!
I remember while doing my military service in FDF one of the officers said that if you lost your RK62 you'd had to pay something like 10 000€.
In Canada if I lost my rifle I would likely go to jail.
I think in Finland you'd get some punishment as well. It is kind a hard to get in jail here though :D
My friend lost a magazine in the forest and the whole company had to search it until it was found.
That's vastly outside their value, i cannot find any source to show that they costed all that much more then a AK Type 1 rifle, since in all reality that's what it is.
And in the US military, it depends, if your rifle is stolen and it's not of your fault, they just replace your firearm, if it's stolen/lost and it's your fault, you pay for the rifle and receive legal punishment, if you lose your firearm to damage caused by your own actions, you pay to replace it, if damaged in combat, they pay to replace it.
Thank you for the follow-up, Ian.
So someone was willing to throw 31K at a knife pistol, when you could buy a high end M16 auto receiver at that price?
I would agree, I never looked at it that way
I thought of myself sitting down at the auction and bidding on something I really want finally getting all the low bids out of the way and the auctioneer says going once going twice and then all of a sudden I hear this low voice in the background outbid me and I turn around to see that it is the Messiah himself, gun Jesus and he has a look on his face like I will put a second mortgage on my house for this weapon. What do you do? I think I would just bow out and say you got this. There's not really any weapon on this world that I must own no matter what.
Wow that french knifegun went for a ton. What a surprise!
Thanks for the heads up.
Actually the gestapo used something called the p38k which I believe is a p38 with a shorter grip and a shortened barrel
Ian , I always wanted to own a clairidge 9mm pistol from total recall, I really liked seeing that pistol in the movie when I was a kid and that stupid crime bill nosedives the company I believe I never heard about them again after 1993 94. I know it's just a straight blowback tube gun but they look cool and futuristic, I know I can still find them here and there.
Ian, would be be possible to post the pre auction estimate on the screen along with the final price? I think that would be interesting information.
Yeah, i think that would be a good idea, gives a bit of insight into what the auction house is expecting
The Martz pistols looked beautiful. Not so much into old pistols but I wish I could finish metal that nicely.
Finished "in the white"too!
Beautiful case hardening on that Burnside.
Cameron Yaggi rifle rig looks so fun to operate
I love that Martz luger carbine.
I find a few of those pretty surprising, but perhaps that shows how little I know about the collector market.
technically, the lorenzoni would be a fowler. a muskete denotes military useage. this arm was for a very rich man to hunt birds.
Needlefire's price! o.o
Whoever bought that PIAT got a steal. I'd love to have that thing.
Getting it for 3k was a steal
Before this video I saw an advert for Candice Held boutiques.
I'm in the UK and Ms Held seems to be operating in the US, so I'm not sure that she'll be thanking the advertising algorithm for *that*.
That doubl deuce blows my mind I really figured that would go for more I'm 5 years late even watching but I watched the RIA video on it and Ian's video I figured way more than 7k
cool, early morning update.
Would you happen to remember if those Uzis came with any accessories? My FFL has a couple of these guys in great condition with cases and extra magazines.
I have seen them sold “NIB” with a large plastic hardcase, three mags, sling, and manuals.
A pity these never made full production. I'd jump on a .45 P38/P5/P5C or even a .45 Beretta 92 or Taurus PT-92/99/100/101. They at least had the PT-945, the closest thing I can think of to a .45 92 series and by extension a P38. It had the Beretta lower half but an enclosed slide and Browning locked breech.
Ian, when can we expect the .30-06 Chauchat to start showing up in videos? I'm guessing you're still waiting on the paperwork to clear?
2 bore gun ! It's almost 34mm caliber !
Greetings !!!!!! Can you show Turkish, Austrian or Hungerian Musket (Flintlock) ????
Am i the only one who really likes the idea of a .38 Super P38?
.38 super is popular primarily because military calibres can not be owned by civilians in mexico that being the case i can see why perhaps a mexican collector may desire a .38 super p38
30k for a swiss pocket gun omg
someone didn't have their coffee
You say that a clamp on grenade launcher doesn't require a tax stamp as a destructive device but when attached to a firearm it'll have a bore over 0.5 inches, making it a destructive device. Are these just exempt or does the whole system of rifle and launcher require a stamp?
37mm smoothbore launchers are exempted from the NFA as long as they are only used with non-lethal ammunition like flares.
Forgotten Weapons thanks
Does the owner of an item pay a fee if the item is not sold?
Generally not, but it depends on the sales agreement. For example, if a consigner insists on a reserve price higher than the auctioneer thinks is reasonable, they may agree that the consigner will pay a fee is the item doesn't sell, to cover the expenses of photography, shipping, marketing, etc.
I dont understand why scratches, wear and even dirt on antiques are considered to be a negative in america? Over here its appreciated because it shows possibly part of the story and age of an object.
I think whoever bought that GRAD probably did it because they had 10k to burn and thought such a stupidly ornate knifegun would go well with their collection of vintage Rolls-Royces
38 Super P-38 after WWII th 9mm was not popular in America, it might have gone the way of other surplus arms calibers, the 38 Super was American and had some following, in context of its era, a 38 Super conversion makes perfect sense. I think everyone who bought oneof his guns got a bargain. As for the big guns, their prices were stil too high for the use anyone could get from them. Utility has value.
What model was the trap door Springfield?
Model 1873 rifle
Hughes Enterprises thanks
Hey honey, I bought a NeedleFire Knife Gun!
So how big of a problem are forgeries at gun auctions? With these sorts of prizes it might be a lucrative business.
It's no different at auction than in private sales. Better, actually, because auction companies can be held liable for fraudulent descriptions, so they will almost always tell you if something is real - as long as they are knowledgable enough to determine it themselves. They won't usually be very explicit about it, though - the key is to look for words like "style" and "type" - like "SS style markings" instead of "SS sniper rifle". That means its fake, and they are saying so without attracting attention to the fact. And ultimately, the best preventative measure is to educate yourself and know what you are buying or bidding on whether in an auction or any other transaction.
Thanks for the answer!
I know nothing about these things but it seems to me that historic guns are such a niche market that someone with extensive knowledge on the subject could come up with some obscure weapon and produce a believable story around it.
Or even just adding certain markings (there was a civilian rifle that if it had military markings you said it'd be worth a lot more).
As with any expensive niche market there are always people with more money than brains that buy things just because they can.
Talking about the high-end second-hand gun market as a whole, not so much auctions versus private sales.
Again: thank you for your time, I've learned a lot from your videos. Very good for my english as well!
If I had trusted my gut and gotten into Bitcoin way back when I first heard about it, I could actually be bidding on these instead of gazing at the screen longingly.
I already know and have invested in it. But that's good that you're thinking about it!
Parker Brown ethereum are a steal dude
Ethereum doesn't seem to have the potential it needs, litecoin is paying off well right now
Stop investing in electronic fiat currency.... If its backed by nothing, its just the electronic version of the US dollar.... Use your brains gentleman
Mathew Sylvia the US dollar is also another type of FIAT currency (in fact, almost all currency is FIAT)
Can't believe no one wanted the .950 lol no one wanted to dislocate their shoulder
Who dislikes these videos?
Guns bad, politicians good....
Sadly in Canada we can't have a lot of the guns that you show in your videos but we can do one thing that you Americans can't and that's cut down the barrel as short as we want on restricted guns
toomanyaccounts actually we can own pistols with a 2 inch barrel there just restricted and we don't have to pay a tax to shorten the barrel of a long rifle as long as it's restricted.
Pistols with 2-inch barrels are restricted in Canada? Bullshit, bud. They're PROHIBITED.
You have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
You can cut down the barrel of a restricted long gun "as short as you want" in Canada? Bullshit, bud."According to the Criminal Code, a prohibited firearm is:b. a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, -is less than 660 mm in length, or -is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length"So cutting down the barrel of a restricted long gun "as short as you want" will result in you making said restricted long gun PROHIBITED. You should really read the Firearms Act as you clearly have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
"The VB grenade launcher definitely DOESN'T require a tax stamp because it is basically just a clamp on metal tube accessory ha." 8:30
Sorry what are suppressors then?
If only I was rich, I would have bought all these guns!!
7k for civilian rk! Whoa!
i have a question about GRAD knife. It seems to me that this one is fake, since there is NO info whatsoever in Russian about this knife, they havent been produced by Russians or sold or anything.
"GRAD" is an acronym for Global Research And Development. The piece has no Russian connection, claimed or real.
The knife doesn't claim to be Russian. It's made by an American company, which is clearly marked on the knife.
ah ok, so it US made ballistic knife based on НРС-2 design? or am i still missing sth?
yeah i know, but lacking proper term for those knives (or just my vocabulary doesn't know the term) i still call all of them ballistic knives.
tbfkru I think in the video on it he said it was an American company made it for some Russian dude
technically, the lorenzoni would be a fowler. a muskete denotes military useage. this arm was for a very rich man to hunt birds.