Thanks, I wish we could do a video like this every week. On the other hand, we don't find ourselves trapped in snow and/or mud every week! 😂 But we will do our best to keep 'em coming!
looking forward to getting to Utah with our rig one day soon. Snow and RV travel don't mix really well in my opinion, although there are folks that love winter camping. I do like having 4 wheel drive on my truck, not for going anywhere that I would not with a 2WD but even sometimes backing into a sloped campsite, or sometimes when camping on some very wet grass it is handy to flip it into 4WD just to get where I want to without spinning and tearing things up. But I agree with you that for trailer towing needs, 4WD is far far from being a necessity. Continued safe travels.
The tow truck driver is correct - 4 wheel drive is an excellent way to get oneself stuck in the mud because of overconfidence. I have been stuck once and sure enough because I "went further down a road...". Since that time, I have primarily used 4x4 high the few times that I presumed the road was good enough but just in case and other times to pull others out. 4-wheel drive, straps and winches are things one usually does not need until you do.
I was always told that four-wheel drives to get you into places that you shouldn't have been in the first place and I love Christie's reaction to snow in the morning that made me laugh and made me smile 🤠😎🤠
reefer fuel is for tractor trailers hauling frozen goods. its just to show up as a different cost. since it goes to fueling the reefer unit aka refrigerator unit. All it takes is one time to get stuck and learn from it.
Myself, I've owned pickup trucks since my late teens, and every one of them where 4X4, which gave me ease, moreso on snowy highways, where I could put it in 4X4 at any speed, giving me confidence when it came to climbing hills. Having been one to go on hunting trips in my youth, I've been on trips where we got stuck, but we always travelled with several other vehicles, so as to help one another is such situations Sean. Even today, now that I've come to the glorious moniker they call a 'senior', I carry a heavy duty tow strap, not necessarily for myself, but to help others! Yet I'm now down to an F150 from my last beautiful King Ranch F450, and even the F450 was a 4X4, as is my current F150! For the additional $$, I suppose I'll always own one, as I've had the ability a few times where I couldn't move in 2 wheel drive, but putting it in 4X4, the weight over the front axle with the engine, my truck moved as if it wasn't stuck at all! So I guess you'd say I'm 'pro' four wheel drive, even for the few times it's needed, it's gotten me out of a bind!
Yes, I will be investing in a tow strap ASAP. As for 4WD, certainly most people would agree with your position. 4WD definitely outsells 2WD by a large margin. With that said, I once shot and edited a video explaining why I selected a 2WD truck. There are many benefits of a 2WD that never get discussed (cost, ride height, towing, weight, maintenance, etc.) but I decided not to post the video because it would be kicking open a hornet's nest! 😂 I may go back and take a look at that video, update it slightly, and post it. Although I have been happy with our 2WD (it has towed our rig almost 250,000 miles now!) I certainly am open to 4WD too. If we go shopping for a new truck I'm not sure where I would end up. Thanks for your post!
This may be an unusual episode for you, but for those of us that live in snow territory, it just seemed very real. Loved it and your solutions. Wet snow is the worst, especially for the roads.
Just saw this episode tonight. I recognized where you guys were boondocking. We had driven past that area 4 yrs ago, and saw an Airstream out there. We said to ourselves that will be us one day. We were tent campers then, and now that we own an Airstream, we will hopefully return again! We have a tow strap, and recovery boards too. But have yet to use them. Happy Holidays!
I was cognizant of your truck being a 2 whl dr. Here in the PNW it's almost impossible to find a 2 whl dr truck. I tried in 2004, and on the next truck in 2015 & again in 2021. Having had it on the prior trucks & the 2x a year i used it, I did order my 2021 F350 & opted for 4x4. I agree with your tow truck driver but for me its like having a fire extinguisher. I may never use it, but when i need it, i have it. It sure makes backing up a trailer on a loose gravel road a lot easier & when we got snowed on in a campground that was not suppose to happen.
Yes, I certainly understand that there could be situations when four-wheel-drive would have major benefits, especially if you live in a potentially snowy climate. If I was ordering a truck today, I honestly don’t know what I would do. But with that said, I do not regret having a 2 WD. I once did a calculation of the total cost savings over the years (initial cost, fuel, economy, and maintenance) it was significant. I did a video a couple of years ago about the benefits of 2 WD and I never posted it because I decided I did not want to kick the hornets nest. 😂 maybe I will go back and look at that video and post it. But I do keep an open mind, and I certainly understand that if we were living in an area prone to snow and ice four-wheel-drive would probably be a wise investment. Thanks for your comments!
Always good to listen to your wife 👍👍. Yes, we have had some true life adventures to remember; stuck in sand (self inflected) 3 tires out of 4 with a ply separation stranding us next to an army base that was doing night maneuvers, my kids were scared we were at war, lost the brakes on our diesel (Seemore’s twin) coming down a hill with a STOP sign there, lucky the fifth wheel had good brakes and we were not speeding. the adventure begins when least expected, but dang, it was fun.
I thought for sure Seemore was 4wd. I have a 2016 Tundra 2WD to pull my FR MicroLite 25fks. I have been apprehensive to take it out in the BLM land like you do, because of no 4wd. This makes think maybe it will be ok to get out there. I Love you guys!
Always feels good to help a neighbour in need... Hello from snowy and icy Canada. And yes good prep in the vehicle is not only to get yourself out of trouble but to lend a hand to someone else. LO Ho Ho Ho.
Great time lapse of the sky and weather coming in. Safe place and you had all the things you needed. Great idea to fly the drone into the area to check it first! Loved the time lapse of the beautiful night sky!! This was very interesting! Traction boards and truck claws are two things we have never heard of. Well done Seemore!!- Jim & Michelle
This was a great episode Sean. I’m on my 3rd and likely last tow vehicle and only got stuck once many years ago on an old West Virginia coal mine road of about an hour. I carry a tow rope and recovery boards but thank God have not needed to use them. I did lend the tow rope to a fellow RV’er that accidentally hit a pole at the dump station in Zion and the front tire was pinched in the fender. The tow rope was attached to front bumper and he straighten the fender enough by going in reverse to continue with his vacation.
Yes, we thought we were far enough south that we would be okay for another few days, and according to the forecast we should have been. Oh well! We’ll know for next time. When you don’t live in a specific area it’s hard to know what should be expected. Every region has its quirks and only the locals really know what to expect!
You were so gracious to offer assistance. We got caught in 6 inches of snow in New Mexico on November 4th. Woke up to the winter wonderland. Packed up our F550 and waited for the sun about 11 a.m. Got if the gravel road to pavement and the trip home went well. Patience and. wisdom watching the weather apps. Be blessed!
We overnighted at the Richfield Walmart in late Sept on our way to Capital Reef. Our first Walmart stay and it was crowded with RVs but quiet but peaceful. 6200 miles trip from Tennessee around the big parks like Badlands, Yellowstone, Zion, Grand Canyon, etc. I tried to do a few videos, but dang, it was too much for me to manage. Kudos to you successful youtubers.
I stayed in this exact spot in Hurricane Cliffs last year. Can’t beat that spot when visiting Zion. Very cool of you to help get that guy out a bad situation! Definitely easy place to get stuck. The dirt out there turns into a slip n slide pretty quick when there’s rain or snow.
Our motto has been, prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. Have chains for our 30' class-A, as a just in case freak weather event. I used to live in the Sierras at 3000 feet. Learned very quickly that snow or a freak hail storm can come at any time. Also learned people with 4x4s drove like crazy people on snowy or icy roads. I plodded along with a rear wheel drive Buick Regal, using a limited slip axle, snow tires, with chains. Often was able to help others get unstuck. Bottom line, at some point its best to park it, or drive back home.
4wd is a tool. Crazy people think it makes you invincible, but coupled with common sense it helps keep you from getting stuck. I agree with Sean that the AWD SUV would have been fine if he hadn't tried to play in the mud. After driving a 2wd pickups with sandbags in the beds through many Maine winters I got my first 4wd. I'm still plodding along, because stopping distances are longer in slick conditions with or without 4wd. There's a reason why body shops up here run ads on days with snowstorms.
Living in snow country above 7500 feet I have regularly had to tow out cars stuck after sliding off the road usually teenagers or flatlanders with summer tires on their vehicle. I used to always carry a tow strap but found that after lying in-the snow for just a few minutes they would freeze becoming brittle and would easily break. After a couple of times of tying them back together they were so short I was concerned about someone driving into my truck as they suddenly regained traction. My wife bought me a tow chain and problem solved. It’s always in my truck under the passenger seat 24/7, you would be amazed at how often it gets used!
I got the same advise about 2 or 4wd, and since my parents vehicles were only 2wd cars and full size van and only got stuck either when I was doing something stupid or trying to get out in winter when I had no business being on the road, so when it came to buying my first truck I bought a 2wd and also my second one which looked like Seemore's older big brother, a 2006 F-350 same colors as SeeMore, but a few years ago when I started looking for a used truck here in Michigan, I had a dealer get on his computer and try to find a crew cab F250, 350 or 450 with 2wd, he came up with zero hits, expanded the search to a couple of other states only got 2 hits, but when he changed 2wd to 4wd there were hundreds of hits in Michigan and thousands of hit total with other states included. But my wife told me if we were going to be towing as much as we wanted to we should get a new truck not someone else's trouble. Same problem with 2wd vs 4wd and on top of that we needed a 6 passenger not a 5 passenger. Took 4 months and had to get a 4wd but did get one ended up with a 2020 F-350 dually diesel 2wd only had it in 4wd once when we tried a jeep trail in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Didn't get very far before I backed out and turned around not because of what you think but the trail was too narrow for the dually. Safe travels and keep making videos, really liked this one. .
We were recently at Squirrel Canyon Trailhead in Hurricane, Utah and made the trip without much trouble with our awd suv, however it was dry. Few years ago we tried the same spot, but it was muddy so we had to make the decision to turn around just a few blocks in. That Utah mud is no joke its slick as ice!
Good video, never been stuck but do carry a tow rope and shovel. I’m in need of new winter boots, I saw yours in the video and would like some info on them. Thanks
What a small World it is. I stumbled across your channel and what a Surprise. Now I know why the Drone was hovering outside my small travel trailer. I am the guy on the crutch from Ontario who provided the straps and was blessed that I could help. I am now outside Ely Nevada. Stay safe on the road. Andy
Wow, thank you, Andy! You were the unsung hero of the day for sure. Without your straps, we might still be out there in the mud. 😂 I love that you were able to see this video. Small world, indeed! Safe travels to you too.
good video and good advice. most of the time getting really stuck is when the body hits mud and the tires can't dig. had a lot of experience 4x4 and you need to choose your route carefully.
I bought a 30 ft x 7/8 inch Yankum Knetic Recovery rope (actually the Matts ORR fund raiser version) with a soft clevis and I have a couple of RATED metal clevis' I added to it. One version of advise, NEVER, EVER, use a trailer hitch ball as a place to attach the rope. Someone gets killed every few years from the ball giving way.
Seemore flexing recovery muscle in “Matt’s” territory. Just a couple episodes back Seemore had people questioning his abilities. Never question an older truck in situations where younger trucks (looking at DEF trucks) fail. Colorful commentary about the weather was amusingly realistic. Thank you for sharing and have a great day.
@@LongLongHoneymoon So did you stop by Matt's store in Hurricane and pick up a tow rope? Great little store that sells all sorts of recovery and clothing merch.
had to laugh at the frayed tie down , not tow, strap and the loops of small string/ twine. In theory, enough twine (a really lot of loops would eventually work, but yeah, a good heavy and long tow strap is your best insurance,
Been there, DONE THAT‼️ 😎 And yes, I’ve helped many a pickup get out of the snow, sand or mud. It helps to put your vehicle in 4x high and manually (with your automatic shifter in auto-trans) select a higher starting gear, and muscle your way out. Not joking, helps! 😊
Well Sean, ya did good as usual. I'm in St. George and couldn't do without 4WD. Sand, and mud if it ever rains. However, I spent years in east Africa and 4WD is an absolute because we learned to get to our destination in 2WD but if that didn't get us home, we'd always rely on 4WD to save us if conditions changed. If you need 4WD to get in, it may not get you out because you've already used up your aces.
Sean receives the Good Samaritan Award, again. And Seymore just keeps on rolling, and pulling. You also gave some very good advice. With age comes wisdom. Keep on trucking and be safe.
Remember ..In an emergency you might have everything except what you need, but somebody else will... LOL> Your gear got a mud baptism. I remember years ago on a Baja, Mex. camping trip, dragging some foreigners in a 2 wheel drive rig off a sandy beach with the tide coming in. They weren't going anywhere, and I was their only hope because we were well off the beaten path. BTW...a winch is probably the most expensive accessory you can put on a rig that you will likely never use. Safe Travels..
AAA has rules now, I believe, where they do not tow from dirt roads. Now some operators, depending on where you are, will overlook this. Keep this in mind.
I've got a 1993 Chevy, I think 4WD is an excellent option to have, but I must admit that my rig isn't for thousands upon thousands of towing an RV. I use my for towing cars from auction (and those places are just mud pits), and some occasional construction sites, so I have to prioritize mud traction over fuel efficency and tire longevity. Many times I have gotten stuck in 2WD, and managed to self-recover with 4WD. So, in my opinion, that tow truck driver who belittled the 4X4 system was exaggerating as to its ineffectiveness. Still good to have extra gear too, trac boards, recovery straps, winches, etc...
Dont think hes saying its ineffective. Hes saying people use it to get even deeper in to trouble when they would have turned around if they didn't have it. The tool is not the issue, its how having it makes them take more risks.
First-Thank you for pronouncing Zion and Hurricane correctly:) Same situation as Des Moines etc. Second- I would get a kinetic rope and forgo the strap. Third-I am certain that with the type of camping that you are doing a winch would not be necessary. Use the saved money to purchase the aforementioned kinetic rope and soft shackles.
What a great entertaining video- I’m going to head out west for the next Thanksgiving- I’m going to leave our fears behind - and ROLL TIDE my brother 🍻
I think Kristy was a little upset with the snow lol. Could get you a yankum rope from Matt's offroad to have for hour next recovery. Sean your so right watch what your doing ,check out the area before running in. Just cause I have 4x4 don't mean I'm going all in. Awesome video.
As someone that loves my 4x4, your not wrong. Most people use 4x4 wrong. If you need to shift in to 4x4 to get in somewhere, you should turn around. More than once I have gotten in a spot where I needed 4x4 to keep going, I turn around. I use 4x4 as a tool to get back out. As the saying goes, "if you find yourself in a hole, first thing to do is stop digging." Using 4x4 to keep going is the equivalent of getting a bigger shovel. I also go in places without the trailer first. Besides 4x4, I have very aggressive tires. My truck has a rear locker. I have several 2x12s in the bed starting at 8 feet long. I have a kinetic strap. And my truck has a 12,000 pound winch. So far, the strap an winch have only been needed to help others, an the 2x12s have only been used to level my 5th wheel. This applies to exploring an camping alone. Get me together with 2 or 3 other 4x4s an that goes out the window. I will try to go anywhere then. I have had to swim out of my truck a few times. I am about to sell this truck an get something bigger. I cant afford the size truck I want in 4x4. But it will have a winch, kinetic strap and 2x12s on it before it goes anywhere. And a locker will install if finances allow. All of that stuff together costs less than one off pavement wrecker call. I also keep a pair of snow chains but have never used them.
We were in Montana working for the US Forest service. They wanted us to stay thru Labor Day weekend. We left that Tuesday after Labor Day and got pretty far South. Well it snowed 14" the following weekend. Got out of there just in time. Love you vids and when you get back to Alabama, welcome home. We are from Dothan. Learned a less from and old timer when I was a young engineer working in the phosphate mines in Fl. Use two wheels to get you into trouble then use four wheels to get you out.
I tow a travel trailer with an F250 rear wheel drive. In addition to a set of traction pads, I carry a 30 foot tow strap, and a big ass come-a-long. Never been stuck because I'm very careful where I drive and park. I should say I haven't been stuck YET. But, having all that equipment is like having an insurance policy against remaining stuck.
As a person who Jeeps (and tows) and has done Moab numerous times, I would suggest getting rid of the 'come-a-long'. Not very useful with heavy or full-size rigs. Tow strap is great, but I highly recommend a 'bungee' type tow/recovery strap. Such as a Yank'em Rope or similar brand. Great for snow or mud recovery.
Yes this last Mar31 I had one of those surprise forecast. W. e were in Williams AZ. The forecast was for light rain with a possible dusting of snow. Well we woke up to about 8+ inches of snow. That and I-40 closed. The good news we were in the Williams RV park so we decided to stay anouther night.
Beautiful country out west for sure. I think your right about the two wheel vs four wheel. I do chance it a little further in my travels with my four wheel drive.
Serious Q, no critique, simply wondering. If you have "answered" this in another video, sorry. Why not use a truck camper shell? Why did you choose the truck bed set up with the luggage carrier and open bed? We plan to tow a trailer in retirement and presumed a camper shell would be the best option to store stuff but want to go with the most practical option.
We didn’t like the reduced visibility that you often have with a truck shell. Also, we knew it would be harder to access our stuff. Yes we know they make pull out draws to help with that, but they also reduce capacity. We like that we have quick and easy access to the items in the Thule, and we like that we can completely remove the Thule when we aren’t traveling with our camper. It was just the best choice for us.
I wouldn’t rule out, trying a bed shell cover in the future. It would provide more covered storage when we are RV traveling. However, at the moment we like to remove the Thule when we are not traveling with our RV for maximum visibility.
This was fun and educational episode…keep’em coming!
Thanks, I wish we could do a video like this every week. On the other hand, we don't find ourselves trapped in snow and/or mud every week! 😂 But we will do our best to keep 'em coming!
Smart girl!
That's life! Full of adventures, seemore to the rescue
All of this is one of our favorite areas, but the mud and sand is a major issue.
Yes, it is a strikingly beautiful area, but I’m sure that mud and sand are a major issue. Someone probably get stuck out there on a daily basis.
looking forward to getting to Utah with our rig one day soon. Snow and RV travel don't mix really well in my opinion, although there are folks that love winter camping. I do like having 4 wheel drive on my truck, not for going anywhere that I would not with a 2WD but even sometimes backing into a sloped campsite, or sometimes when camping on some very wet grass it is handy to flip it into 4WD just to get where I want to without spinning and tearing things up. But I agree with you that for trailer towing needs, 4WD is far far from being a necessity. Continued safe travels.
The tow truck driver is correct - 4 wheel drive is an excellent way to get oneself stuck in the mud because of overconfidence. I have been stuck once and sure enough because I "went further down a road...". Since that time, I have primarily used 4x4 high the few times that I presumed the road was good enough but just in case and other times to pull others out. 4-wheel drive, straps and winches are things one usually does not need until you do.
I was always told that four-wheel drives to get you into places that you shouldn't have been in the first place and I love Christie's reaction to snow in the morning that made me laugh and made me smile 🤠😎🤠
Another great video Sean. What an adventure.
reefer fuel is for tractor trailers hauling frozen goods. its just to show up as a different cost. since it goes to fueling the reefer unit aka refrigerator unit. All it takes is one time to get stuck and learn from it.
Great video! Thank you! It's all fun, right? :)
It’s all fun once you’re out of the mess and somewhere safe! 😂
Woohoo! Old Seemore to the rescue!! 💪💞
Yes, certainly important to have recovery gear.
Myself, I've owned pickup trucks since my late teens, and every one of them where 4X4, which gave me ease, moreso on snowy highways, where I could put it in 4X4 at any speed, giving me confidence when it came to climbing hills. Having been one to go on hunting trips in my youth, I've been on trips where we got stuck, but we always travelled with several other vehicles, so as to help one another is such situations Sean. Even today, now that I've come to the glorious moniker they call a 'senior', I carry a heavy duty tow strap, not necessarily for myself, but to help others! Yet I'm now down to an F150 from my last beautiful King Ranch F450, and even the F450 was a 4X4, as is my current F150! For the additional $$, I suppose I'll always own one, as I've had the ability a few times where I couldn't move in 2 wheel drive, but putting it in 4X4, the weight over the front axle with the engine, my truck moved as if it wasn't stuck at all! So I guess you'd say I'm 'pro' four wheel drive, even for the few times it's needed, it's gotten me out of a bind!
Yes, I will be investing in a tow strap ASAP. As for 4WD, certainly most people would agree with your position. 4WD definitely outsells 2WD by a large margin. With that said, I once shot and edited a video explaining why I selected a 2WD truck. There are many benefits of a 2WD that never get discussed (cost, ride height, towing, weight, maintenance, etc.) but I decided not to post the video because it would be kicking open a hornet's nest! 😂 I may go back and take a look at that video, update it slightly, and post it. Although I have been happy with our 2WD (it has towed our rig almost 250,000 miles now!) I certainly am open to 4WD too. If we go shopping for a new truck I'm not sure where I would end up. Thanks for your post!
This may be an unusual episode for you, but for those of us that live in snow territory, it just seemed very real. Loved it and your solutions. Wet snow is the worst, especially for the roads.
Yay 👏👏👏 And like a good neighbor, you were there to lend a helping hand however you could. Faith restored again 🙏
My wife always says that the worst problems make for the best stories. Also, I find Kristy’s potty mouth refreshing.
Right? Where's the soap? Shame Kristy shame! Lmao
@@DitchCCDC23lol, I was SO mad! I obsessively checked the weather the day before to make certain we were safe to stop! 🤣🤬
Yes, Kristy is such a proper lady. I loved the colorful, candid language. Hehe!
I thought Seymore was 4x4! Well, maybe the tow chain goes back into the truck?
Love the attitude. All of my backpacking, car camping and RVing have the same outlook. Go With the Flow.
Just saw this episode tonight. I recognized where you guys were boondocking. We had driven past that area 4 yrs ago, and saw an Airstream out there. We said to ourselves that will be us one day. We were tent campers then, and now that we own an Airstream, we will hopefully return again! We have a tow strap, and recovery boards too. But have yet to use them. Happy Holidays!
Nice work.
I am ordeing straps tonight!
I was cognizant of your truck being a 2 whl dr. Here in the PNW it's almost impossible to find a 2 whl dr truck. I tried in 2004, and on the next truck in 2015 & again in 2021. Having had it on the prior trucks & the 2x a year i used it, I did order my 2021 F350 & opted for 4x4. I agree with your tow truck driver but for me its like having a fire extinguisher. I may never use it, but when i need it, i have it. It sure makes backing up a trailer on a loose gravel road a lot easier & when we got snowed on in a campground that was not suppose to happen.
Yes, I certainly understand that there could be situations when four-wheel-drive would have major benefits, especially if you live in a potentially snowy climate. If I was ordering a truck today, I honestly don’t know what I would do. But with that said, I do not regret having a 2 WD. I once did a calculation of the total cost savings over the years (initial cost, fuel, economy, and maintenance) it was significant. I did a video a couple of years ago about the benefits of 2 WD and I never posted it because I decided I did not want to kick the hornets nest. 😂 maybe I will go back and look at that video and post it. But I do keep an open mind, and I certainly understand that if we were living in an area prone to snow and ice four-wheel-drive would probably be a wise investment. Thanks for your comments!
Love you guys, stay as you are, normal people
Always good to listen to your wife 👍👍. Yes, we have had some true life adventures to remember; stuck in sand (self inflected) 3 tires out of 4 with a ply separation stranding us next to an army base that was doing night maneuvers, my kids were scared we were at war, lost the brakes on our diesel (Seemore’s twin) coming down a hill with a STOP sign there, lucky the fifth wheel had good brakes and we were not speeding. the adventure begins when least expected, but dang, it was fun.
I have a 4wd truck, but was taught that you only use it to get un-stuck. If you get stuck while you are in 4wd, you are STUCK!
Good advice!
Loved the bleeps when looking at the snow. I felt your pain lol
Rare strong language from my wife!~ 😂
Thx LLH for an informative and entertaining video with excellent production and useful information (as usual) Happy Camping.
Thanks for watching, Bill! Glad you enjoyed it! 😊🤙🏼
I thought for sure Seemore was 4wd. I have a 2016 Tundra 2WD to pull my FR MicroLite 25fks. I have been apprehensive to take it out in the BLM land like you do, because of no 4wd. This makes think maybe it will be ok to get out there. I Love you guys!
So sorry you were stuck in the desert west for TG. I know, it is beautiful there, but it is not the best. Great job helping out. 🙂
Great job, Sean! I'm glad you had help with that recovery!
I like the peace and beauty snow brings to the desert - if I don't have to drive in it.
Harbor freight has some nice winches.
Welcome to my state 😊
We love Utah!
Always feels good to help a neighbour in need... Hello from snowy and icy Canada. And yes good prep in the vehicle is not only to get yourself out of trouble but to lend a hand to someone else. LO Ho Ho Ho.
Well done Seemore!
Great time lapse of the sky and weather coming in. Safe place and you had all the things you needed. Great idea to fly the drone into the area to check it first! Loved the time lapse of the beautiful night sky!! This was very interesting! Traction boards and truck claws are two things we have never heard of. Well done Seemore!!- Jim & Michelle
Factor 55 made in USA 🇺🇸 makes great recovery gear
Not mine but true: 4X4's go in farther, get stuck deeper and cost more to get out.
This was a great episode Sean. I’m on my 3rd and likely last tow vehicle and only got stuck once many years ago on an old West Virginia coal mine road of about an hour. I carry a tow rope and recovery boards but thank God have not needed to use them. I did lend the tow rope to a fellow RV’er that accidentally hit a pole at the dump station in Zion and the front tire was pinched in the fender. The tow rope was attached to front bumper and he straighten the fender enough by going in reverse to continue with his vacation.
Hello,
it is fall / winter in the rocky mountains, snow is likely no matter what the weather forecast says ESP if it says rain
Good advice. Lesson learned! ❄️❄️❄️
Yes, we thought we were far enough south that we would be okay for another few days, and according to the forecast we should have been. Oh well! We’ll know for next time. When you don’t live in a specific area it’s hard to know what should be expected. Every region has its quirks and only the locals really know what to expect!
Neat Video ! Good Stuff !
I agree, DISCRETION goes a long way to stay out of trouble.
Tow straps are so useful I have them in my truck always. So glad you were able to help the stranded and stuck driver.
Very entertaining video.
You were so gracious to offer assistance. We got caught in 6 inches of snow in New Mexico on November 4th. Woke up to the winter wonderland. Packed up our F550 and waited for the sun about 11 a.m. Got if the gravel road to pavement and the trip home went well. Patience and. wisdom watching the weather apps. Be blessed!
Matt's offroad recovery will sell you a tow rope kit in a duffle bag.
Rumor has it Matt is gonna kick his ass for taking a job ! LOL !
We overnighted at the Richfield Walmart in late Sept on our way to Capital Reef. Our first Walmart stay and it was crowded with RVs but quiet but peaceful. 6200 miles trip from Tennessee around the big parks like Badlands, Yellowstone, Zion, Grand Canyon, etc. I tried to do a few videos, but dang, it was too much for me to manage. Kudos to you successful youtubers.
I stayed in this exact spot in Hurricane Cliffs last year. Can’t beat that spot when visiting Zion. Very cool of you to help get that guy out a bad situation! Definitely easy place to get stuck. The dirt out there turns into a slip n slide pretty quick when there’s rain or snow.
Our motto has been, prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. Have chains for our 30' class-A, as a just in case freak weather event. I used to live in the Sierras at 3000 feet. Learned very quickly that snow or a freak hail storm can come at any time.
Also learned people with 4x4s drove like crazy people on snowy or icy roads. I plodded along with a rear wheel drive Buick Regal, using a limited slip axle, snow tires, with chains. Often was able to help others get unstuck. Bottom line, at some point its best to park it, or drive back home.
4wd is a tool. Crazy people think it makes you invincible, but coupled with common sense it helps keep you from getting stuck. I agree with Sean that the AWD SUV would have been fine if he hadn't tried to play in the mud. After driving a 2wd pickups with sandbags in the beds through many Maine winters I got my first 4wd. I'm still plodding along, because stopping distances are longer in slick conditions with or without 4wd. There's a reason why body shops up here run ads on days with snowstorms.
Living in snow country above 7500 feet I have regularly had to tow out cars stuck after sliding off the road usually teenagers or flatlanders with summer tires on their vehicle. I used to always carry a tow strap but found that after lying in-the snow for just a few minutes they would freeze becoming brittle and would easily break. After a couple of times of tying them back together they were so short I was concerned about someone driving into my truck as they suddenly regained traction. My wife bought me a tow chain and problem solved. It’s always in my truck under the passenger seat 24/7, you would be amazed at how often it gets used!
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Good job on the recovery.tow
Such a hero! A good deed indeed! ATB!
Great video as always. Suggestion get camera bags to hold down the Starlink antenna.
What kind of bags? Yes, I would like to improve our Starling setup. I will start shopping for some accessories. Thanks!
I got the same advise about 2 or 4wd, and since my parents vehicles were only 2wd cars and full size van and only got stuck either when I was doing something stupid or trying to get out in winter when I had no business being on the road, so when it came to buying my first truck I bought a 2wd and also my second one which looked like Seemore's older big brother, a 2006 F-350 same colors as SeeMore, but a few years ago when I started looking for a used truck here in Michigan, I had a dealer get on his computer and try to find a crew cab F250, 350 or 450 with 2wd, he came up with zero hits, expanded the search to a couple of other states only got 2 hits, but when he changed 2wd to 4wd there were hundreds of hits in Michigan and thousands of hit total with other states included. But my wife told me if we were going to be towing as much as we wanted to we should get a new truck not someone else's trouble. Same problem with 2wd vs 4wd and on top of that we needed a 6 passenger not a 5 passenger. Took 4 months and had to get a 4wd but did get one ended up with a 2020 F-350 dually diesel 2wd only had it in 4wd once when we tried a jeep trail in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Didn't get very far before I backed out and turned around not because of what you think but the trail was too narrow for the dually. Safe travels and keep making videos, really liked this one.
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We were recently at Squirrel Canyon Trailhead in Hurricane, Utah and made the trip without much trouble with our awd suv, however it was dry. Few years ago we tried the same spot, but it was muddy so we had to make the decision to turn around just a few blocks in. That Utah mud is no joke its slick as ice!
Good video, never been stuck but do carry a tow rope and shovel. I’m in need of new winter boots, I saw yours in the video and would like some info on them. Thanks
You had me laughing with the "bleep" comments in the morning. Glad you are safe!
Yankum Ropes... Winch..Oh Yeah.. Might need a boat anchor! Seriously.. Just an alaskan who gets stuck alot. 🙂
On the Navajo reservation they say: " with a two wheel drive truck you can get stuck... with a four wheel drive truck you can REALLY get stuck"
Good one! 😆
What a small World it is. I stumbled across your channel and what a Surprise. Now I know why the Drone was hovering outside my small travel trailer. I am the guy on the crutch from Ontario who provided the straps and was blessed that I could help. I am now outside Ely Nevada. Stay safe on the road. Andy
Wow, thank you, Andy! You were the unsung hero of the day for sure. Without your straps, we might still be out there in the mud. 😂 I love that you were able to see this video. Small world, indeed! Safe travels to you too.
bring a bag of kitty litter with you small bag helps on ice
good video and good advice. most of the time getting really stuck is when the body hits mud and the tires can't dig. had a lot of experience 4x4 and you need to choose your route carefully.
Going to put Matt’s Off Road Recovery Ropes into my kit along with recovery boards.
Another great video. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do for us RV folks.
Our truck is a 4x4 but I still love the 4-wheel drive quote! 😅 Fun and educational video! Brent and Betsy
I bought a 30 ft x 7/8 inch Yankum Knetic Recovery rope (actually the Matts ORR fund raiser version) with a soft clevis and I have a couple of RATED metal clevis' I added to it. One version of advise, NEVER, EVER, use a trailer hitch ball as a place to attach the rope. Someone gets killed every few years from the ball giving way.
Wow, thanks for the tip, I had no idea that was so dangerous! I will mention that issue in a future video.
Seemore flexing recovery muscle in “Matt’s” territory. Just a couple episodes back Seemore had people questioning his abilities. Never question an older truck in situations where younger trucks (looking at DEF trucks) fail. Colorful commentary about the weather was amusingly realistic. Thank you for sharing and have a great day.
Lol. Came here for the MORR comments.
I have a longtime best friend who lives in Utah and his young son is a huge MORR fan. They introduced me to Matt's great channel.
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@@LongLongHoneymoon So did you stop by Matt's store in Hurricane and pick up a tow rope? Great little store that sells all sorts of recovery and clothing merch.
had to laugh at the frayed tie down , not tow, strap and the loops of small string/ twine. In theory, enough twine (a really lot of loops would eventually work, but yeah, a good heavy and long tow strap is your best insurance,
Been there, DONE THAT‼️ 😎 And yes, I’ve helped many a pickup get out of the snow, sand or mud. It helps to put your vehicle in 4x high and manually (with your automatic shifter in auto-trans) select a higher starting gear, and muscle your way out. Not joking, helps! 😊
Good video
Well Sean, ya did good as usual. I'm in St. George and couldn't do without 4WD. Sand, and mud if it ever rains. However, I spent years in east Africa and 4WD is an absolute because we learned to get to our destination in 2WD but if that didn't get us home, we'd always rely on 4WD to save us if conditions changed. If you need 4WD to get in, it may not get you out because you've already used up your aces.
Sean receives the Good Samaritan Award, again. And Seymore just keeps on rolling, and pulling. You also gave some very good advice. With age comes wisdom. Keep on trucking and be safe.
Good idea for the winch. It might save your transmission. Get one with remote control.
Remember ..In an emergency you might have everything except what you need, but somebody else will... LOL> Your gear got a mud baptism. I remember years ago on a Baja, Mex. camping trip, dragging some foreigners in a 2 wheel drive rig off a sandy beach with the tide coming in. They weren't going anywhere, and I was their only hope because we were well off the beaten path. BTW...a winch is probably the most expensive accessory you can put on a rig that you will likely never use. Safe Travels..
WAY TO GO GUYS
Hopefully meet you on the road
Interestingly enough, I bought a 10,000 lb recovery strap for our Sprinter last week and my wife said “what do you need that for?; we have AAA.” 😂
AAA has rules now, I believe, where they do not tow from dirt roads. Now some operators, depending on where you are, will overlook this. Keep this in mind.
my favorite channel< it sure is beautiful in utah that;s for sure! safe travels to yous! thanks for taking me along
Thank you, Ted! 😊
Look like the Pathfinder lost its path..... 😂
Great video and witty dialogue as always. May I ask what tires you are running on "SeeMore"?
That Toyota had mud terrain tires on it. Those are the absolute worst when it comes to slick roads.
I've got a 1993 Chevy, I think 4WD is an excellent option to have, but I must admit that my rig isn't for thousands upon thousands of towing an RV. I use my for towing cars from auction (and those places are just mud pits), and some occasional construction sites, so I have to prioritize mud traction over fuel efficency and tire longevity. Many times I have gotten stuck in 2WD, and managed to self-recover with 4WD. So, in my opinion, that tow truck driver who belittled the 4X4 system was exaggerating as to its ineffectiveness. Still good to have extra gear too, trac boards, recovery straps, winches, etc...
Dont think hes saying its ineffective. Hes saying people use it to get even deeper in to trouble when they would have turned around if they didn't have it. The tool is not the issue, its how having it makes them take more risks.
great area and proof that having corect tools are a must safe travels
First-Thank you for pronouncing Zion and Hurricane correctly:) Same situation as Des Moines etc. Second- I would get a kinetic rope and forgo the strap. Third-I am certain that with the type of camping that you are doing a winch would not be necessary. Use the saved money to purchase the aforementioned kinetic rope and soft shackles.
What a great entertaining video- I’m going to head out west for the next Thanksgiving- I’m going to leave our fears behind - and ROLL TIDE my brother 🍻
RTR! Hoping we sneak into that 12th playoff spot. 😁🐘🐘🐘🐘
@ - positive thoughts my friend will get it done - see ya on the road 🍻
You guys are heroes!
On a long enough timeline, everyone gets stuck, somehow, someway…
I think Kristy was a little upset with the snow lol. Could get you a yankum rope from Matt's offroad to have for hour next recovery. Sean your so right watch what your doing ,check out the area before running in. Just cause I have 4x4 don't mean I'm going all in. Awesome video.
Nothing like having the diesel power and if you do ever get stuck, Ram Cummins trucks are the perfect vehicle to pull you out. Lol
As someone that loves my 4x4, your not wrong. Most people use 4x4 wrong. If you need to shift in to 4x4 to get in somewhere, you should turn around. More than once I have gotten in a spot where I needed 4x4 to keep going, I turn around. I use 4x4 as a tool to get back out. As the saying goes, "if you find yourself in a hole, first thing to do is stop digging." Using 4x4 to keep going is the equivalent of getting a bigger shovel.
I also go in places without the trailer first.
Besides 4x4, I have very aggressive tires. My truck has a rear locker. I have several 2x12s in the bed starting at 8 feet long. I have a kinetic strap. And my truck has a 12,000 pound winch. So far, the strap an winch have only been needed to help others, an the 2x12s have only been used to level my 5th wheel.
This applies to exploring an camping alone. Get me together with 2 or 3 other 4x4s an that goes out the window. I will try to go anywhere then. I have had to swim out of my truck a few times.
I am about to sell this truck an get something bigger. I cant afford the size truck I want in 4x4. But it will have a winch, kinetic strap and 2x12s on it before it goes anywhere. And a locker will install if finances allow. All of that stuff together costs less than one off pavement wrecker call.
I also keep a pair of snow chains but have never used them.
We were in Montana working for the US Forest service. They wanted us to stay thru Labor Day weekend. We left that Tuesday after Labor Day and got pretty far South. Well it snowed 14" the following weekend. Got out of there just in time. Love you vids and when you get back to Alabama, welcome home. We are from Dothan. Learned a less from and old timer when I was a young engineer working in the phosphate mines in Fl. Use two wheels to get you into trouble then use four wheels to get you out.
Great job guys 💪
I tow a travel trailer with an F250 rear wheel drive. In addition to a set of traction pads, I carry a 30 foot tow strap, and a big ass come-a-long. Never been stuck because I'm very careful where I drive and park. I should say I haven't been stuck YET. But, having all that equipment is like having an insurance policy against remaining stuck.
As a person who Jeeps (and tows) and has done Moab numerous times, I would suggest getting rid of the 'come-a-long'. Not very useful with heavy or full-size rigs. Tow strap is great, but I highly recommend a 'bungee' type tow/recovery strap. Such as a Yank'em Rope or similar brand. Great for snow or mud recovery.
Get a 3/4" or 1" kenetic rope. It can be used as a tow rope or a snatch rope.
It’s the new pineapple section of Quartzite….Christie…you said “no way “…Bama girl don’t like no snow! Also, it’s Utaharrr!
Thought you were going to get new truck😊
Haha let's see if this old one can get us home first...
Yes this last Mar31 I had one of those surprise forecast. W. e were in Williams AZ. The forecast was for light rain with a possible dusting of snow. Well we woke up to about 8+ inches of snow. That and I-40 closed. The good news we were in the Williams RV park so we decided to stay anouther night.
Beautiful country out west for sure. I think your right about the two wheel vs four wheel. I do chance it a little further in my travels with my four wheel drive.
Good job Shaun 2WD rules yeah baby. Ares is 2WD too 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦
Serious Q, no critique, simply wondering. If you have "answered" this in another video, sorry. Why not use a truck camper shell? Why did you choose the truck bed set up with the luggage carrier and open bed? We plan to tow a trailer in retirement and presumed a camper shell would be the best option to store stuff but want to go with the most practical option.
We didn’t like the reduced visibility that you often have with a truck shell. Also, we knew it would be harder to access our stuff. Yes we know they make pull out draws to help with that, but they also reduce capacity. We like that we have quick and easy access to the items in the Thule, and we like that we can completely remove the Thule when we aren’t traveling with our camper. It was just the best choice for us.
I wouldn’t rule out, trying a bed shell cover in the future. It would provide more covered storage when we are RV traveling. However, at the moment we like to remove the Thule when we are not traveling with our RV for maximum visibility.
@@kristymichael Thank you for both replies.