Slight mistake here all, Atrocez picks up Steel Shoulderguards for his support item not Relic Shield - this effects your adaptive force so make sure you get Steel Shoulderguards and NOT relic shield. You can also talk to Atrocez in the discord server as well! He's hanging out talking theory with us: discord.com/invite/ZxFvTjdDzR
I honestly I wanted to try Orn support 'cause I have some Hextech boxes to open and hopefully get a skin. But, just when I was about to bring him back to botlane, my enemy picked him first and I just went Shen xd
As the best Ornn Support Missouri I almost puked when you said relic. Also its interesting he maxes Q even tho the incentive is worse than W. Also no mention of no pot start for rushed rejuv beads.
Beautiful video as usual, everything is correct, except there is a little missing parts: You mention the basic combo but you didn't mentioed the full combo: Q + R + E knockup + AA + R2 + AA + W + AA You can proc 3 times brittle stacks like that and have a heavy burst. No mention to randuins, it works so well with ornn's E Time warp tonic to stay in lane, correct, it gives nice advantage in early game but cosmic insight is much better for mid to late game. Second wind, correct, he gets poked so much. (Conditioning is an alternative for late game) As for 6th item, I agree on winning vision control here cuz ornn can get a big benefit of vigilant wardstone HOWEVER if both teams are equal and game has potential that goes to 30+ minute game I highly HIGHLY recommend knights vow as last item, this will protect whoever is carrying the game and will give you win most of times. So far, 8/10 brilliant guide.
Caner you're back, always love your additional insight~ As I was exporting the video I too thought I should've included the full combo when you get ult.... a definite miss that I'll cover in the future. Live and learn and you have helped push the channel much further. Thank you as always
@@BCawk I definitely will! One of my League friends is a Yasuo main and we often duo botlane together so I wonder how well they synergise! Time to find out >:)
I’m confused on why the runes are time warp tonic and not futures market. I feel like futures market is good on ornn in the first place and even better now that he’s a support-receiving less gold.
I think High Elo players are heavily valuing the movement speed timewarp tonic gives you when it's active. Future's market can work but if you dip too far into it you're putting yourself at more of a gold disadvantage over time for the price you pay for it
I believe it can work. I think Atrocez opts for overgrowth since he's commonly building merc treads for tenacity. Runes are always subjective, if it works better for you than I say go for it! Just give it some testing and see what feels best for you.
dude i have been playing ornn supp for almost 6 months and its good if u have aggressive adc and u play aggressive play style. I say ornn supp is perfect against casters or mages like valkoz and soraka who are especially immobile. But, ornn is very weak against super aggressive adc like lucian so beware there. I play top and supp and i always play top lane champs as supp mostly Shen, Ornn, Camille and Poppy. Try these champs especially camille who can setup a great gank.
Yea I know right, I still remember when Ornn's W can negate Blitzcrank hook. I'd always used W as a reactive against Blitzcrank hook then. Riot need to revert his W.
Thanks, Fishy. My main reason for making these was for just that, to learn more about supports I don't encounter often - I'm happy these are working the same way for you!
At 4:05 I play Oren support I suggest not to do E unless you know for sure your ADC can kill the enemy. Instead I would use Bellow Breath as if there trying to chase your ADC and not focus on you. You can use Bellow Breath on the enemy ADC this can punish them and the brittle effect is extremely good once Orrn trigger as it does decent damage that my suggestion. Yes I am a Orrn support.
His ram thing also kills yoricks wall even at 4 stacks. Have you seen the sion orn bot video from tilt, that would be neat, with a twitch jg or something.
It may sound crazy, but I think people were doing voli support for a little. It's been added to the list for investigation! Let me know if you try it out and it works well!
@@BCawk nevermind. I'm on a 90% WR with my weird Nasus support build in 2 days. Going to stick with what wins :P. Maybe I'll make a 3rd account for Voli support lol
I love these unusual support picks, like fiddle/orn for example. and after A LOT of games I can say that the problem is not in the champion, it's the teammates ability to play around your pick. though they just most of the time say "oooooh fiddle is NOT a support champion, nice int".. but.. but.. fiddle is in the support category in the shop :/
Yah... the toxic community consistently is the worst party of league. People adhere to closely to what us "meta" when in actuality a lot of things can work. I'm glad you're breaking the mold with me 🔥
@@olegbeon You get shit as a support either way. You're like a second tier citizen or something... Less valuable and less worthy, anyone that accidently took a kill can admit that lol
Comment for the algorithm. I've been enjoy league less as of late and suggestions on unconventional supports I can try is just the spicy I was looking for!
Amazing... I find you channel today.. But I'm already marathoning all your videos. Great content, very well made videos, congratulations. I can see how much you care to post a good content.
Hey Gour! I've actually seen some of your videos let's talk over discord or Twitter, whichever you prefer, to see if we can work on something together!
I have been playing AP pen ornn support for around 3 months now, its less reliable than regular ornn, but is very fun, and incredible into tanky enemy teams, the build is sorc boots, divine sunderer, and void staff, then whatever you want, but tank items work best. The idea is maximize your % health magic damage from brittle (brittle doesnt scale from ap so building the new ap item introduced in season 12 is not gold efficient). The build is also surprisingly durable because of ornns passive and divine sunderer. The only downside is that if they remove the ap pen from divine sunderer, -which doesn't really belong in the first place-, the build is gone. For runes I generally go predator, but it doesn't matter as long as you have ultimate hunter.
Slight mistake here all, Atrocez picks up Steel Shoulderguards for his support item not Relic Shield - this effects your adaptive force so make sure you get Steel Shoulderguards and NOT relic shield.
You can also talk to Atrocez in the discord server as well! He's hanging out talking theory with us: discord.com/invite/ZxFvTjdDzR
I honestly I wanted to try Orn support 'cause I have some Hextech boxes to open and hopefully get a skin. But, just when I was about to bring him back to botlane, my enemy picked him first and I just went Shen xd
As the best Ornn Support Missouri I almost puked when you said relic. Also its interesting he maxes Q even tho the incentive is worse than W. Also no mention of no pot start for rushed rejuv beads.
I was about to say in the comments! Ornn is an AD scaling tank like Sion so the AD Support item is better imo
@@boriskoblents8586 dude.. who cares. Lmao 😂
Atrocez is my buddy from school, he showed me the video! Interesting to see him get some recognition in a youtube video
He definitely deserves some recognition. I hope more people will learn about him from this and his career continues to grow
Finally an excuse to play ornn again.
Always love the vids man 💕
Finally, a reason for me to try Ornn 😅
Thanks for the kind words, Amy! Glad you like the vids
Beautiful video as usual, everything is correct, except there is a little missing parts:
You mention the basic combo but you didn't mentioed the full combo: Q + R + E knockup + AA + R2 + AA + W + AA
You can proc 3 times brittle stacks like that and have a heavy burst.
No mention to randuins, it works so well with ornn's E
Time warp tonic to stay in lane, correct, it gives nice advantage in early game but cosmic insight is much better for mid to late game.
Second wind, correct, he gets poked so much. (Conditioning is an alternative for late game)
As for 6th item, I agree on winning vision control here cuz ornn can get a big benefit of vigilant wardstone HOWEVER if both teams are equal and game has potential that goes to 30+ minute game I highly HIGHLY recommend knights vow as last item, this will protect whoever is carrying the game and will give you win most of times.
So far, 8/10 brilliant guide.
Caner you're back, always love your additional insight~
As I was exporting the video I too thought I should've included the full combo when you get ult.... a definite miss that I'll cover in the future. Live and learn and you have helped push the channel much further. Thank you as always
I wanna try this so bad now!! Keep up the good vids :)
You should, let me know how it goes it feels pretty strong from my short testing so far! Let me know 🔥
@@BCawk I definitely will! One of my League friends is a Yasuo main and we often duo botlane together so I wonder how well they synergise! Time to find out >:)
@@chromiumm1533 Sounds absolutely disgusting..... I love it
Nice video as always
Coming soon for sure! I have someone in mind for this video so within the next 4 videos Shen support will be coming!
Thank youu 💕@@BCawk
Do u have a discord server? if not u should, u do have followers
@@mery2488 I do! You can join here if you'd like discord.com/invite/ZxFvTjdDzR
Fun fact KRC Genk is an football club in Belgium i think hes drom Belgium thuis guy
Why timewarp tonic? for the biscuits? Is it even worth? Why not free boots and approach velocity to ensure you combo or hit brittle?
The slow on Q is enough, and timewarp tonic is there for the movement speed.
Whats is this app at the start ?
What patch was this?
I’m confused on why the runes are time warp tonic and not futures market. I feel like futures market is good on ornn in the first place and even better now that he’s a support-receiving less gold.
I think High Elo players are heavily valuing the movement speed timewarp tonic gives you when it's active. Future's market can work but if you dip too far into it you're putting yourself at more of a gold disadvantage over time for the price you pay for it
Doesn't Unflinching work better than Overgrowth?
I believe it can work. I think Atrocez opts for overgrowth since he's commonly building merc treads for tenacity.
Runes are always subjective, if it works better for you than I say go for it! Just give it some testing and see what feels best for you.
Ornn 🥰
You've been waiting ;)
12:43 hahaha did they just killed their teammate?
HAHA it does look that way. He was trying to kill the minions so they'd stop auto attacking his teammate, but alas, the minions were too powerful.
@@BCawk yeah that makes more sense
Your thumbnails gives me the happyChimeNoises vibe, and your content too O_o
Thanks, I take this as a compliment! I've talked about previously how I've used his format to create these videos and hope this doesn't offend anyone.
@@BCawk fair enough
dude i have been playing ornn supp for almost 6 months and its good if u have aggressive adc and u play aggressive play style. I say ornn supp is perfect against casters or mages like valkoz and soraka who are especially immobile. But, ornn is very weak against super aggressive adc like lucian so beware there. I play top and supp and i always play top lane champs as supp mostly Shen, Ornn, Camille and Poppy. Try these champs especially camille who can setup a great gank.
Hey Adullah, thanks for your additional insight! Glad to hear there's more Ornn supports out there in the world
Great content about one of the greatest things in league - off meta supports
It's a shame that I discovered u so late
Its all relative Kamil, if I keep making these videos for 10 more years than you discovered me early ;). Welcome!
Me an Ornn support from the moment he came out.
Atrocez "I invented Ornn support."
Me channeling Rammus: Ok.
Yea I know right, I still remember when Ornn's W can negate Blitzcrank hook. I'd always used W as a reactive against Blitzcrank hook then. Riot need to revert his W.
Same
The guides are really in depth now thank you for this. Even though I may not play it its always entertaining content. Also gives me matchup experience
Thanks, Fishy. My main reason for making these was for just that, to learn more about supports I don't encounter often - I'm happy these are working the same way for you!
At 4:05 I play Oren support I suggest not to do E unless you know for sure your ADC can kill the enemy.
Instead I would use Bellow Breath as if there trying to chase your ADC and not focus on you. You can use Bellow Breath on the enemy ADC this can punish them and the brittle effect is extremely good once Orrn trigger as it does decent damage that my suggestion.
Yes I am a Orrn support.
His ram thing also kills yoricks wall even at 4 stacks. Have you seen the sion orn bot video from tilt, that would be neat, with a twitch jg or something.
i play ornn as support, midlane and jungle because i dont like top lane.
Volibear Support. That's my goal. Predator Rune, I'm the Revenant bear and the enemy adc is my DiCaprio lol
It may sound crazy, but I think people were doing voli support for a little. It's been added to the list for investigation! Let me know if you try it out and it works well!
@@BCawk nevermind. I'm on a 90% WR with my weird Nasus support build in 2 days. Going to stick with what wins :P. Maybe I'll make a 3rd account for Voli support lol
I love these unusual support picks, like fiddle/orn for example. and after A LOT of games I can say that the problem is not in the champion, it's the teammates ability to play around your pick. though they just most of the time say "oooooh fiddle is NOT a support champion, nice int".. but.. but.. fiddle is in the support category in the shop :/
I remember a couple of years ago I got a lot of hate and shit for playing maokai support, now people have no issues with me playing him..
Sometimes offmeta just means not meta yet 😉
@@BCawk of course, but it unfortunate that you get a lot of hate for it, even if you're popping off
Yah... the toxic community consistently is the worst party of league. People adhere to closely to what us "meta" when in actuality a lot of things can work. I'm glad you're breaking the mold with me 🔥
@@olegbeon You get shit as a support either way. You're like a second tier citizen or something... Less valuable and less worthy, anyone that accidently took a kill can admit that lol
Comment for the algorithm.
I've been enjoy league less as of late and suggestions on unconventional supports I can try is just the spicy I was looking for!
You're doing god's work. Thank you for all the algorithm comments Ersika
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Amazing... I find you channel today.. But I'm already marathoning all your videos. Great content, very well made videos, congratulations. I can see how much you care to post a good content.
Thanks for the content. I am a support main (I know it’s abusive) but I’m gonn give Ornn a try.
Comment for the algorithm
I wasn't sure about the Ram hate in the problem section but the goat joke made it worth it.
Love it! +1
Great videos bro! Just wondering if maybe we could do a video together?
Hey Gour! I've actually seen some of your videos let's talk over discord or Twitter, whichever you prefer, to see if we can work on something together!
@@BCawk oh lol sweet. Let’s do discord
@@BCawk discord.gg/8ZxqWB4D
Great video,count me impressed...subbbed for life
This comment got to me more than I thought it would (in a good way). Thank you so much happy you're here!
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This video is incredible. Thank you. Subbed!
Glad you liked it Cody! Welcome to the fam!
I was waiting for this for so long :D
Juan! Glad to see you back, thanks for your patience over the last two weeks. Glad I covered a champ you were waiting for
Love it
Love ya
I have been playing AP pen ornn support for around 3 months now, its less reliable than regular ornn, but is very fun, and incredible into tanky enemy teams, the build is sorc boots, divine sunderer, and void staff, then whatever you want, but tank items work best. The idea is maximize your % health magic damage from brittle (brittle doesnt scale from ap so building the new ap item introduced in season 12 is not gold efficient). The build is also surprisingly durable because of ornns passive and divine sunderer. The only downside is that if they remove the ap pen from divine sunderer, -which doesn't really belong in the first place-, the build is gone. For runes I generally go predator, but it doesn't matter as long as you have ultimate hunter.
Great video! I love playing off-meta supports (Mundo is still my fav though) and Ornn support might be an interesting pick to try :P
I'm still looking for a high-tier mundo support! Hopefully i find one soon because I here great things about it
Great videos!
Really in depth and helpful.
Keep it up!
Thanks, Nyanko! I appreciate ya and the nice comment~