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  • Опубліковано 5 гру 2024

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  • @B1900pilot
    @B1900pilot Рік тому +12

    I really enjoy these old RAF trng films.

    • @bac1111967
      @bac1111967  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, this one seems to be popular.

  • @timwingham8952
    @timwingham8952 2 місяці тому +1

    Navigation old school. Much respect is deserved by those aircrew, getting it right at 4 miles a minute!.

  • @SimDeck
    @SimDeck 4 роки тому +13

    Blimey! Imagine trying to to do all that at speed. Incredible stuff. I would love to go back and tell them about GPS.

    • @owainwright6055
      @owainwright6055 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah, different times, but I guess in a proper combat situation there is a good chance there would be no GPS signal.

    • @24934637
      @24934637 4 роки тому +1

      @@owainwright6055 That's a very valid point! Depending on operational requirements the US Government can literally just switch the GPS signals off. There is also the possibility of it being vulnerable to an EMP attack.

    • @scottw5315
      @scottw5315 11 місяців тому +1

      They had INS. Not nearly as good as GPS. Also, they had ground mapping radar that can be used to sweeten the INS location..

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 місяці тому

      They had a navigator.

    • @SimDeck
      @SimDeck 4 місяці тому

      @@flybobbie1449 Jaguar pilots didn't old chap.

  • @yan24to
    @yan24to 3 місяці тому

    Love the old British military training films.

  • @UncleBoratagain
    @UncleBoratagain 4 роки тому +8

    More of a film about the new artform of toporigamyglueography!

    • @bugler75
      @bugler75 4 роки тому +2

      Hahahahahaha!

  • @karmpuscookie
    @karmpuscookie Місяць тому

    A glue pot. Classic!

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 2 роки тому +3

    There’s only one, what, in Scunthorpe?

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 3 роки тому +1

    "Where's the bloody bridge!".. LOL👍

  • @Scotscan
    @Scotscan 2 роки тому +3

    Jim's a bright lad

  • @johnfisher7143
    @johnfisher7143 4 місяці тому

    Me one minute into the flight “sorry, I’m lost” 😂

    • @bac1111967
      @bac1111967  4 місяці тому

      Oh c'mon you werent an officer were you? You would be lost without inertial nav then lol. Paper maps are too hard at mach1!

  • @bmbpdk
    @bmbpdk 11 днів тому

    04:17 "They must have removed the bridge, it wasn there"....
    5:55: "Like this house", that mansion/castle is categorised as a HOUSE?!

  • @longbiowsix
    @longbiowsix 2 роки тому +6

    ah, the good old days when you could destroy several maps per one flight :)

    • @bac1111967
      @bac1111967  2 роки тому +1

      I have been told that could indeed happen! lol

    • @Biggles2498
      @Biggles2498 2 роки тому +2

      A Discarded Quarter Mil map actually got used for a successful prison escape in the 70s.

  • @TINY5BB
    @TINY5BB 2 роки тому +1

    Mind blowing WOW

  • @KhaledAwni
    @KhaledAwni 6 місяців тому

    MOST BEAUTIFUL FIGHTER PLANE F 4

  • @bikenavbm1229
    @bikenavbm1229 2 роки тому +1

    thanks enjoyed that

  • @douglascharnley8249
    @douglascharnley8249 2 роки тому +2

    The Issue with the Spey engine was airflow, it was a hot engine, ask the USS Saratoga. To stop the engines from melting the air intakes on the Phanom had to be enlarged. The increase of frontal area increased the drag and caused a lack of performance.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 2 роки тому +1

      ‘Melting the air intakes’, bah-hahahahahahah!

  • @grahamsawyer831
    @grahamsawyer831 3 роки тому +2

    Is that where the phrase 'turning on a sixpence' comes from?

    • @SM-dt1pr
      @SM-dt1pr 5 місяців тому

      This looks like post Decimalisation to me.

  • @UncleBoratagain
    @UncleBoratagain 4 роки тому +3

    Also noteworthy is the QFI’s name badge: Luck?

  • @paralogregt
    @paralogregt 2 місяці тому

    Love watching this bombing over my old village. I might actually have seen this flying over in 71. and they are still flying over there in 2024 but i could not see them this summer but could hear them at 30,000 ft or more.

  • @typhoon2827
    @typhoon2827 Рік тому +1

    6:32 Flamborough Head

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 Рік тому

      Walked around flam head early 80s ,windy real windy 😮

  • @herrinigo2034
    @herrinigo2034 Рік тому

    6 Squadron, night attack specialised unit.

  • @tanyano9
    @tanyano9 5 місяців тому

    These two blokes still with us...??

    • @bac1111967
      @bac1111967  5 місяців тому

      I honestly couldnt say. They arent named in the film itself .

  • @A_10_PaAng_111
    @A_10_PaAng_111 Рік тому

    😳😳😳😳

  • @andyb.1026
    @andyb.1026 Рік тому +1

    Im most surprised at this, using paper maps, Harriers had INAS at this time.. Guess thaf what comes of using grotty American aircraft 😅😊

    • @alexneil6201
      @alexneil6201 Рік тому

      The RAF Phantom also had INAS. The training mission was in a Jet Provost.

    • @andyb.1026
      @andyb.1026 Рік тому +1

      @alexneil6201 silly of me,, when the Title said Phantom,, I thought it meant Phantom 👻

    • @kneelneil
      @kneelneil Рік тому

      The trainee shown, "Jim" was still under training to be a Phantom nav, which is why he has no nav brevet on his jacket. He still had a long way to go before he got in the back seat of an FGR2. The film was made to attract recruits.@@andyb.1026

    • @chriswilliams5793
      @chriswilliams5793 Рік тому +1

      Not so sure it was in a JP. They couldn’t make 460kts…..

    • @RockinRedRover
      @RockinRedRover Рік тому +1

      think the use of the occasional map and stopwatch snippets was a trick by the film-makers, to add some backup info (there must be film-maker word for it lol) for the benefit of the viewers. Plus they might not have wanted to show use of INAS in cloeup, for security reasons. Some and possibly all RAF Phantoms had INAS.

  • @pascalchauvet7625
    @pascalchauvet7625 4 роки тому

    The British Spey-powered Phantoms had more powerful engines than their
    J-79 powered counterparts, yet were not faster than these. Did they have
    superior climb and acceleration?

    • @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
      @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Рік тому

      From what I've heard from some pilots. The Speys were apparently more economical & down low (below 10k) they were superior to J79s. Above 10k, not so much.
      At all heights, though, J79s were more responsive. That trait especially came into its own during Tanking & Carrier operations.
      If you haven't already. Check out @Aircrew Interview on YT, more specifically, 1 of the Tony Dixon interviews on the F4, as there's a part where he actually talks about a race he had with a J79 Phantom.

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 4 місяці тому

    I would have some aerial photographers want pics of of factories and fields. They would show me a google earth pic and i would find it by trying not to use the map.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 місяці тому

      All flying navigation principles are the same no matter what you fly. Bit easier moving fast, wind doesn't effect you.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 місяці тому

      These chap bit wasteful of maps.

  • @photosphotos
    @photosphotos 2 роки тому +1

    He said “it does look pretty flat”
    It is indeed flat as a pancake, the earth is flat and stationary, space is fake.

    • @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
      @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Рік тому +1

      You should try out for clown school, with that material. After all, you made me chuckle. 😅

    • @photosphotos
      @photosphotos Рік тому

      @@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM 18:30 onward. 👍🤡

  • @ronaldtartaglia4459
    @ronaldtartaglia4459 Рік тому

    Awesome

  • @pascalchauvet7625
    @pascalchauvet7625 4 роки тому

    The British Spey-powered Phantoms had more powerful engines than their
    J-79 powered counterparts, yet were not faster than these. Did they have
    superior climb and acceleration?

    • @maxbodymass
      @maxbodymass 4 роки тому

      Being some what wider than their US counter parts therefor not so fast. Climb, range better but at low level not quite so good but it smoked less so not so easy to see.

  • @pascalchauvet7625
    @pascalchauvet7625 4 роки тому

    The British Spey-powered Phantoms had more powerful engines than their
    J-79 powered counterparts, yet were not faster than these. Did they have
    superior climb and acceleration?

  • @pascalchauvet7625
    @pascalchauvet7625 4 роки тому +2

    The British Spey-powered Phantoms had more powerful engines than their
    J-79 powered counterparts, yet were not faster than these. Did they have
    superior climb and acceleration?

    • @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
      @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM 4 роки тому +1

      Have a look at "Aircrew interview"
      1 of interviews, goes into this exact sinario.