I said the same shit He trying to switch the blame and hold Joyner accountable when he thought with his heart and not with his head. Honest mistake. Fuck Dr. Phil.
Em straight shits on Budden. He signed him to slaughterhouse on shady records and he couldn't keep up. Em doesnt have a problem talking shit about him. Funny though, em and D12 use to have beef with Royce. And now he's the only one that can keep up with Slim
Joe totally disrespected Joyner. He didn't listen to him at all. He interrupted him and disregarded the young man's thoughts. Just because he's older and probably wiser it doesn't mean Joyner's points were invalid. He put the kid completely in the wrong. Nobody wants to hear that lopsided kind of advice. At least show some compassion before shitting all over his decisions.
BertleMcGertle nah your bias or hate is showing Joe gave him real industry advice while still noting what Joyner was saying but in the end Joyner was kinda salty from the gate. Read between lines
@@damediaz9014 I'm not saying that Joe's point wasn't valid but he didn't acknowledge Joyner's at all. Sometimes mentorship involves listening not just speaking.
Nah fam. If someone bites and is openly stealing your material you need to expose them and let your stance be known. Fk taking it laying down or turning the other cheek.
Kiahree Ogles if you do that you gotta be prepared that people will try to defend themselves and might try to make you look bad. Whistleblowing doesn't work out for everyone that does it.
You didn't understand Joe. Joe was not saying he shouldn't feel the way he does. All he is saying is what happened to him is pretty much a formality in the industry. People steal, deceive and take credit for shit they don't even create. What Joyner has to understand is that you don't EVER put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of by playing snippets for the manager of a guy you don't care for. Joyner was finessed for his idea and that is a basic textbook move most managers pull on upcoming talent because they know the new guy will do anything and everything to get put on or generate a buzz. These guys in the industry are looking out for themselves and their inner circle. So as a individual, you must understand that some things are better left unsaid and that your content should remain confidential. This has little or nothing to do with him having to suck it up (PAUSE) and "learn from it". It has to do with understanding the industry and not compromising yourself (in that manner) to begin with.
I’m super late watching this but yes KingMobile, that’s definitely what’s what. And ScopeY, I did the exact same thing when I was watching it at the part.
Yeah like wtf are you doing talkin to another rappers manager in the same industry as you talkin about your project ideas n shit like for all we know the manager didnt even tell logic where tf he got it from
No some people are more intelligent and can more express themselves when they write down shit before they say it ... that's why texting is a option for a lot of people.
Cus hes talking like the black skinny guy from 8 mile? dude, just talking with a slow, deep voice and smoking too much weed doesnt make your arguments better
Regardless of who he is or what he has done, good advice is good advice. You can learn something from a criminal on death row. That was a great tidbit of mentorship for people who want long-term careers.
severus "he's just copying Drake now" Boy, you are the biggest dumbfuck ever if you call Logic by Young Sinatra and not knowing he's only interpolated Drake twice before Under Pressure.
@@giovannisantangelo5071 I don't understand why Joyner is so bitter, he is a mixed guy too. I even thought he was Latino like me and he acts like a pure black man discriminating mixed people like him 😢
That's Hood psychology it's the type of s*** n***** do to you to try and sinal who's boss. I like Joe and Joyner but Joyner should've swipe that n****'s hand off his s*** like yo n**** don't touch me no more. Or at least ask it's there a reason you keep touching me fam?
Solomon Ikeachumba He might not absorb it that second, but Joyner is a smart dude. He'll watch the video again, and he'll understand and probably be embarrased about how he acted.
Desinence why would he be embarrassed for standing up to a scummy dude stealing his shit? he right, logic is overrated and obviously logics done this shit before. joyner got a right to be mad, someone stole his hard work. lesson learned, he shouldn't do it again, but bottom line is logic did something wrong, you can't blame the victim.
R. M. Its deeper than that. I agree that logic is awful, and should be called out for what he did, but Joyner is being too petty about the whole situation, letting it consume him. Hes my favorite rapper by far and I resoect him for standing up for himself but at some point he's got to listen when people are speaking.
Desinence Joyner isn't being petty he's mad because logic stole his idea before he could even release his song and people are thinking that Joyner stole it from logic. I even thought he stole it from logic at first
Facts, I dont fuck with Joyner, I mean I'm not racist was fire but I feel he's very....what word should we use........ignorant, you dont talk bad about a fellow rapper that is very busy in his life, has more bars than you, better verses and a very powerful song that has changed many people. Why did he start shit when it was T's record? It was his decision to want logic and if he wanted logic that bad then he would wait, he talks about being corny about him not having the record as his number one priority but mean while he's over here still talking about when it's done and over with.
Artistically Kaylee idk if you're a man or not but men have huge egos. When you interact with another man there are generally boundaries you don't pass. Logic's manager or logic fk'd up there. Zero etiquette.
Dijone Ghost I'm not a man but I realize men have huge egos, I agree that there are boundaries that you don't go to. At the end of the day I feel They should forget about it and move on and love one another and spread positivity not negativity.
Artistically Kaylee that's true and idealistic. But if you're being realistic you understand he has emotions and feelings. So it's okay that he's hurt over what happened. And I he has moved on from it (based on his messages after this aired) but the media throws it everyone's face again and again.
caleb ivey So? K-dot is 30 and he's still receiving advice from OG's. They're both late 80s babies and 90s kids. While they were still in diapers N.W.A released Straight Out of Compton.
Bro Logic was working on his Everybody album before Bobby Tarantino was even released!! There was a snippet of Africaayn in one of his songs so don't give me that nonsense!!!
Sounds like some "I called shotgun! No, I called it first! You just didn't hear me." type bullshit. When you steal you have to cover your fucking tracks or you could get sued into poverty, so of course he was "already working on it." 😂😂
Joyner looked liked a little kid and Joe was like a teacher lecturing him cuz Joyner knew he was right but Joyner is in that hard headed phase. He's a henius and so is Logic. Big fan of both, it sucks their not cool
Fabo Andolini he looked like a little kid? Well no kidding, all new generation go through that same moment when old generation giving out advice. It’s nothing new.
Joe Budden always keeping it real and you can't even fault Joyner for feeling how he feels. He's still learning and we're all human. People in the comment section are doing exactly what Joe was talking about by making fun of Joyner for speaking out. The industry is a shady business. Lesson learned.
Wow do Logic and Joyner have to fight? They are two of the most talented lyricists in the game, sad that they probably won’t work together because of a miscommunication. For all we know Logics manager didn’t even tell Logic where he got the number idea, he could’ve played it off as his own in which case Logic would have no idea. Have a face to face conversation before you let your beef go public
"There's two side to each story i wish i knew yours" He should listen to his one song, go talk to Logic, solve shit and than make an awesome feature on Ultra 85.
They're not even close in skill lmao. One is developing their own lane and style of storytelling, the other is just following the popular styles and when he does try to do his own thing he creates a shit fest like Everybody
What are you talking about? Logic definitely didn't create a "shit fest". Logic is just as, if not more talented then Joyner. Also obviously Logic is twice the man based on this interview. Just because something becomes mainstream doesn't make the artist any less talented. Grow up.
Why are two of the good guys beefing? Both of these artist are on the right side of hip hop so they shud be collaberating to help the hip hop youth cuz they really could
My thoughts exactly. Squash the shit and make some records. Shit a collab album would erupt this world. Hate to see these guys hate each other over assumptions. Yall r both fucking super talented. And are way better then all these new rappers. 💯💯
Kirk Sundstrom recently Eminem did a show in Hawaii with Logic and Sheck Wes and a lot of people theorized that Em was trying to play mediator in this ridiculous beef between the two because of the recent collaborations with both. The beef never had substance to it in the first place. Definitely think most beef these days in the rap industry is just petty BS. Lots of Sneak dissing and shit and it’s ridiculous. They could create so much better projects and music if Joyner and Logic actually worked through this
SuperRavensfan101 the “beef” is only with Joyner. He named dropped him like 4 times and clearly by this video does not like him. He literally assumed that logic didn’t want him on techs song. If anybody should be mad then it’s tech.
Nigga rap ain't just mumble vs lyricists. It's not red vs blue. It's really a battle Royale. Anybody can get the smoke. But right now with mumble rappers being a thing, lyricists all have a common enemy cause their shit is garbage. That don't mean the competition between lyricists is gonna stop.
Joe spitting facts, but if tech n9ne asks you to get one a track with him, you gotta go hard in that fucken beat, no some weak ass "I know I'm supposed to go hard on this beat but fuck it" type mindset, that's straight disrespectful
Yes but you don't know what he's like off the mic, I can tell from the sentence you wrote you humble with certain ppl but you can be petty but I don't know that because on don't know how you are behind the screen 🤷♂
@@notacreativenamer7023i became logic fan 2 months ago. When i found 'incredible true story' and i can assure you brother logic is superior in both flow and lyrics. When Joyner raps it SOMETIMES it feels like he's reading an essay cuz he does sacrifices rhymes for lyrical depth. But same is not the case with logic. That's just my honest opinion.
Some Guy so I’m a dumb ass for having a opinion and just because your small brain doesn’t agree with me doesn’t mean I’m a dumb ass lol. Don’t say anything online you wouldn’t say to someone’s face big boy.
I think this guys mouth is going to get him in trouble. He's very gifted so don't get it confused. But speaking out against everyone like that never got anyone far. Squash it behind closed doors and be humble.
Mayut Majok Yeah maybe you're right man. It's very important to speak your mind but time and time again I've seen people who are "too vocal" and it builds a great resentment towards them which damages their brand. The thing I've learned is to speak up when it's absolutely necessary. Discrepancies such as this with Logic are better left private. Now if someone was - for example - harming children, then please believe that is something to be very aggressive towards.
I respected Joyner for his ability to rap, and his overall skill. Don't get me wrong, I still do. But man, his idea's of how people are supposed to be towards him just cause he can spit fire are all kinds of fucked. Don't nobody owe you shit, nor the other way around. He's like a damn middle school child that can't let shit go, and makes up beef in his own head to feel relevant. Lost all of my respect in 14 minutes and 53 seconds. Damn.
"Logic don't wanna meet new people". For all of you guys who will antagonize Logic for that statement, Logic already stated he doesn't fuck with a lot of people. That's just the person he is. Gotta be in your feelings because someone don't wanna friend you? And now your mad at someone for doing worse than you on an track?Why you worried about somebody else? Stay humble. If you really wanted to reach out to Logic, you would've got in contact with him in private and been like "Hey man, I see a few problems with the lyrics I think we can go over and refine". Ain't no taking sides on this debate though. Logic still kind of suspect for that phone number song after Joyner released his shit. Can't say who in the wrong here though.
That's the problem with people who attempt to put shame on Logic. They always use the old "he tries to prove that he's half black, half white" statement as a scapegoat because that's the only thing "wrong" with Logic's music. Meanwhile, society today listens to songs about sex, money, drugs, lean. In reality, Logic raps about all that, which is why on his recent album he states "Sex, money, pussy, money, weed, everywhere I look a killing spree, everything they wanted me to be, is everything I turned out to be". The thing that kinda leaves me with an question mark on my head is why people always use that certain statement. 'Under Pressure' and 'The Incredible True Story' and 'Bobby Taratino' had nothing to with rascism, equality, etc. But the moment Logic made an album, just one album about suicide, racism, and God, everyone want to hop on the Logic hate train. His mixtapes were clearly for the old heads such as myself. Now you can comment back and bash me for what I see is the honest truth, or don't comment at all. Unapologetically the truth.
Tripzz they’re not 18 & up and if it is 18+ it’s probably because he smokes weed at his concerts sometimes. Little kids dead ass go to his concerts so he has to put it 18+.
It's sad to see that people actually think all Logic does is talk about him being biracial, it's funny as a meme but if you actually listened to his other albums and mix tapes he barely ever brings it up
Lucksual seriously, I guarantee you no one can name more than 3 songs on everybody where he talk specifically about his own race and his struggles along with it. 🤷 even in all of his music released he talks about his race less than 3% of every song. and if there's a song with race it's maybe one or two lines
Lucksual His mixtapes coming up and some of his albums have him talking about his biracial struggles. Only reason people don’t fuck with it is because it ain’t relatable. Nothing wrong with it.
Cinny the problem is that people don't know when to leave a joke as a joke... yeah logic has done the whole " hey guess don't forget I'm half black " thing... cool we laugh and do whatever.... then you have mfs who take that shit seriously and say dumb shit like " that's all he ever talks about"... " he's only popular because of that"...." if it wasn't for the biracial shit then he wouldn't be famous" ... way to make a mountain out of a molehill
japneet singh I watched the video a few times to understand the problem here and found no wrong doing.. You fuckers have selective hearing. Name the thing that LOGIC stole. I'll wait.
@@damediaz9014 I didn't say joe wasn't giving him good life advice but as someone whom doesn't like being touched, I could tell that it was bugging Joyner.
He deserves it for acting like he knows everything. He was being mad condescending to Joyner putting his hand on his shoulder and giving him some type of lecture.
I need this beef squashed so I can hear some music collab. Two huge rappers who I have respect for, let's move past this shit and make something amazing
the last 2 people joyner has beefed with or dissed was a 17 year old kid (lil pump) and a guy who preaches nothing but peace, love and positivity and is most definitely not gonna clap back (logic) looool
You can tell when budden said "nobody can keep up with tech n9ne" joyner was thinking "...maybe YOU can't"
Lol i was thinking the same thing
lmaooo
when he "nobody can keep up with Tech N9ne" I was like I can name few off the top of my head. Em, Krizz, and Twista to name a few.
@@MurkyWaters677 There's also Busta and Twisted
Heathcliff
Joyner is visibly irritated by Joe giving him this father/son talk
I was waiting for the "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed"
But he listen to that shit and he respected that shit
Truth hurts
@@bigrob0061 especially from a washed up crackhead
He's worse than Charlemagne. Why is Joyner even giving this guy his time?
Joyner- “I don’t take back anything I say”
8 months later on Lucky You “I don’t take back what I say, if I said it then I meant it” 👌
He had a plan
Dutch Van Der Linde TAHITI
JRad true
Fuck yeh
By the time this interview was done he may have already recorded his verse on lucky you 😂
who's watching this after ISIS dropped 😂
Me lol
Me
Hayden me! 😂😂😂
Me 10
Me dfl
There's two sides to every story, I wish I knew yours Logic.
I see what you doing there
I don't even need to know logics side this shit sound stupid
marie-cécile It fit didn't it?
Colin Pun we just don't know the whole story yet.
well theres must ba reason to why logic wont adress this?
Joe acting like Dr. Phill lol
I said the same shit
He trying to switch the blame and hold Joyner accountable when he thought with his heart and not with his head. Honest mistake. Fuck Dr. Phil.
Was looking for this comment
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looking like a crack smoking uncle Phill from fresh Prince
Moreso when he's the patient!
Why is budden talkin like he's some great philosopher
Hella hater
Its even gets me irritating
Cause he is... if you actually listen to what he has to say.
George Bell joe budden is one of the biggest haters around
He has the street PHD.
UA-cam recommended me this video right after playing ISIS
Lol mee tooo
Same
You mean ISIS?
ADHD is the album the song is ISIS
Dreaded_Pegasus yes, my bad 😄
Joe Budden talking like he's wise and intellectual. He sounds like he just walked out of a beating and is hiding the pain.
He talking like that so the shitty sound quality doesnt rape your speakers
Joe Budden is like a quickie, ain't nobody stay around his ugly ass.
Lol
😂😂
I bet hes smarter than you
This make me feel even more happy that Em dissed Joe.
Em straight shits on Budden. He signed him to slaughterhouse on shady records and he couldn't keep up. Em doesnt have a problem talking shit about him. Funny though, em and D12 use to have beef with Royce. And now he's the only one that can keep up with Slim
Those disses were trash, em is way better than that
Yes ✊
@@davidquinn7822 Eminem didn't take sides during the D12 Royce beef. He didn't want to lose any friends.
@@kabirrrrrrrr however Royce took offence to that and dissed Em due to the staying neutral BS instead of picking Right vs Wrong
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Sophie Cloutier interrupting his tantrum lmao
Props to Joyner for not knocking Joe out for putting his hand on him like that
Joe looks like he's explaining shit to his son 😂😂
Joaquin Williams fr though 😭😂
Joaquin Williams Joe got that angry dad vibe.
Joaquin Williams he's the O.G. that's what he's supposed to do.
Joaquin Williams for real lmfao
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Can we give Complex money, so they can buy better mics ?
Busta on the real
could sell one of the fucking many tvs they have behind them
Or they just need to check levels before shooting so the audio isn't blown lol.
Wtfffff is was adjusting my speaker settings throughout the entire video thinkin it was me lmao
Busta not till they pay Joe and that’s over so no
joe budden advice at the end was mad real, everything right
@@ghettocatt this interview was before Kamikaze
@@ragu_sama6504 tech is though
Everyone has a friend like Joe Budden, you just secretly wanna punch them in the face...
I have two
Then u really ain’t friends
Joe budden turned into a therapist lol
BlueValco he was speaking facts to joyner lol, but those were some wise words from a veteran like him
Joe looks depressed. Joyner looked like he was about to kill him for touching him too much
for real
Bartolo Roig lol Joyner saltiness is hilarious really Joe was keeping it real
Joe totally disrespected Joyner. He didn't listen to him at all. He interrupted him and disregarded the young man's thoughts. Just because he's older and probably wiser it doesn't mean Joyner's points were invalid. He put the kid completely in the wrong. Nobody wants to hear that lopsided kind of advice. At least show some compassion before shitting all over his decisions.
BertleMcGertle nah your bias or hate is showing Joe gave him real industry advice while still noting what Joyner was saying but in the end Joyner was kinda salty from the gate. Read between lines
@@damediaz9014 I'm not saying that Joe's point wasn't valid but he didn't acknowledge Joyner's at all. Sometimes mentorship involves listening not just speaking.
Joe needs to shut up and quit touching Joyner 😂👀
@@nunyabusinessbitch2595 wee dough wee dough
Joe needs to go after Eminem ! U a pussy Joe 🤣
Broooo
I hate this interview so much, they won't even let him finish a sentence 🤦♂️
Facts
It's an interview?!? I thought it was just a talk.
@@gabethemonster an interview is... Just a talk?
Joyner told entire stories here.. what are you talking about?
@@giveherheadnotheadaches it was a joke. I thought that went without saying.
I thought the beef was gonna go like “I’m more positive. no I’m more positive” 😂😂
Momodu Koroma 😭😭😭
😂😭
Joyner is positive?
SwiftC Onthebeat I
Im 90percent black...im 91 percent black...ur more white than me
Joe's right. Don't get mad. It happened. Learn from where you fucked up and move on.
Nah fam. If someone bites and is openly stealing your material you need to expose them and let your stance be known. Fk taking it laying down or turning the other cheek.
Kiahree Ogles if you do that you gotta be prepared that people will try to defend themselves and might try to make you look bad. Whistleblowing doesn't work out for everyone that does it.
So why didn't Joe do that with the migos or tell Nadeska that after the russ shit? They weren't wrong in those cases either.
You didn't understand Joe. Joe was not saying he shouldn't feel the way he does. All he is saying is what happened to him is pretty much a formality in the industry. People steal, deceive and take credit for shit they don't even create. What Joyner has to understand is that you don't EVER put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of by playing snippets for the manager of a guy you don't care for. Joyner was finessed for his idea and that is a basic textbook move most managers pull on upcoming talent because they know the new guy will do anything and everything to get put on or generate a buzz. These guys in the industry are looking out for themselves and their inner circle. So as a individual, you must understand that some things are better left unsaid and that your content should remain confidential.
This has little or nothing to do with him having to suck it up (PAUSE) and "learn from it". It has to do with understanding the industry and not compromising yourself (in that manner) to begin with.
I disagree. So what if someone stole your shoe career? Just move on?
“Sometimes people make mistakes, I was wrong about Logic, He’s a good dude. Bobby’s a good dude” -Joyner Lucas at Boston Calling 2019
Lmaoooo Joe tryna stop AK from snitching
I started cringing mad hard when he started coming with that dry snitch on Russ... im like for fuck sakes Ak SHUT UP lol
U gotta thousand likes
LOL
I’m super late watching this but yes KingMobile, that’s definitely what’s what. And ScopeY, I did the exact same thing when I was watching it at the part.
Why Budden went Will Smith on his Speech...
Mohammed Islam stealin shxt lol
thats how he is
It's an everyday struggle for Complex to have good audio.
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Haise Sasaki fax
Hahahaga
Dude, distorted af
Who here:
After Joe Budden called logic “ One of the worst rappers ever” 🤦🏽♂️🤣💀💀💀
A.J. Abdullah yup lmao
Seems like the guy says the most outlandish shit just to stay relevant
Ryan’s Rides 916 😒
I mean the worst ever is a tad too far but...
He ain't far off tbh...
Joe makes a valid point this music industry is shady and always has been
Joe is not easy to get along with but he is a OG east coast rapper been around forever
Vladan Vukovic I agree even though he's underrated as a lyricist people mostly know him for pump it up and that's it
Yeah like wtf are you doing talkin to another rappers manager in the same industry as you talkin about your project ideas n shit like for all we know the manager didnt even tell logic where tf he got it from
Doc Kaos815 Beats making a murderer was 🔥
Doc Kaos815 Beats very wise
Why does joyners intelligence shine in his lyrics but not in interviews
Night 79 ghost writers ?
Ghost writers
No some people are more intelligent and can more express themselves when they write down shit before they say it ... that's why texting is a option for a lot of people.
Cuz he got heated🤔🤔
Simply because his music isn’t that intelligent.
Joe budden is trying to be oprah
Joeprah Budden
honestly joe budden is such a dickhead
lmao
More like Dr. Phil
Hahaha killed it
Joyner Lucas is hella Intimidating in this, like high key
Logan Carrington I agree
More like Oprah
Thacker _ what?
It was meant to go on a different comment where someone said buddin tryin to be like Dr Phil. Sorry
Yeah he looked pissed as fuck. And he's not a small guy
Joe Budden is a guy I love to hate because of his attitude. But I can't but lie, he makes a lot of sense, and showed me a different side of Joe.
i love joe
He went full Dr. Phil on this shit
Cus hes talking like the black skinny guy from 8 mile? dude, just talking with a slow, deep voice and smoking too much weed doesnt make your arguments better
@@JenemyOK His argument is pretty good tho
Joe burden trying to sound like Dr Phil
Joe Budden talking like he’s someone of high stature. That man is an L.
Regardless of who he is or what he has done, good advice is good advice. You can learn something from a criminal on death row. That was a great tidbit of mentorship for people who want long-term careers.
Who else want it, Kells?
Attempt fails, Budden, L's
Fuckin' nails in these coffins as soft as Cottonelle
thats exactly why he's the right person to tell Joyner Lucas what he told him...
cant buy that kind of advice ask me...
hahahah this comment was so fucking funny
I take back my comment. Joe's comment to Joyner was A+ advice. I am now ashamed to contribute to a thief by buying Logic's album.
Joe talking to Joyner like a dissapointed dad asking his son how he could have done better/handled the situation next time
No matter how peaceful you are there's always going to be that one person that's just gonna hate
even jesus had haters
Rey Martinez when you feeling forsaken tell them jealous Judases "who this is?" and man, that'll break 'em
Rey Martinez so when u see him tell em jealous judas’ who dis is...
severus "he's just copying Drake now"
Boy, you are the biggest dumbfuck ever if you call Logic by Young Sinatra and not knowing he's only interpolated Drake twice before Under Pressure.
Espartacus Ave
Well I mean he sounded like Kendrick and Cole at one point too
Joe's so fucking cool. The way he didn't speak until he heard the whole of Joyner's story. Fucking dope guy.
James. Hearing but not really listening.
Vice Esteem aha his musics awful though...
Yeah, thats what a real adult does. Not like half the coments of people on thos video...
It's better than Ak trying to cut him off every 5th word.
puttin logic in the thumbnail instead of lucas lmao
HDZ it gets more views bro. Facts
301 logic Joyner low key more popular than logic tho
E Money nah
Chrome _ ....yeah, it's literally a fact. More people know about Joyner
Chrome _ granted, they are pretty much the same. But Joyner is a bit more popular
I cannot stand Joe Budden!! Joyner is real and him and logic have killed that beef and made a hamburger 🤜🏼💥🤛🏿
Was this beef before ISIS?
Butterfly S yes
@@giovannisantangelo5071 I don't understand why Joyner is so bitter, he is a mixed guy too. I even thought he was Latino like me and he acts like a pure black man discriminating mixed people like him 😢
@@sandra3637 u sound dumb
@@sandra3637 race litterally had NOTHING to do what ANYTHING he said bruh
Can Budden please stop touching Joyner?:D
vladimir putin I’ve said this for 5 months now. He sus.
That's Hood psychology it's the type of s*** n***** do to you to try and sinal who's boss. I like Joe and Joyner but Joyner should've swipe that n****'s hand off his s*** like yo n**** don't touch me no more. Or at least ask it's there a reason you keep touching me fam?
vladimir putin
TheBkdot just say nigga
Why did budden just quote tip like joyner don't know the mofo 4,080 rule??? Smdh he monopolizing the whole interview!
Joyner look like he slowly reaching a breaking point with Joe
Me too
Joyner looked a little too angry to absorb what Joe was saying. Hopefully he got some of it
Solomon Ikeachumba He might not absorb it that second, but Joyner is a smart dude. He'll watch the video again, and he'll understand and probably be embarrased about how he acted.
Desinence why would he be embarrassed for standing up to a scummy dude stealing his shit? he right, logic is overrated and obviously logics done this shit before. joyner got a right to be mad, someone stole his hard work. lesson learned, he shouldn't do it again, but bottom line is logic did something wrong, you can't blame the victim.
R. M. Its deeper than that. I agree that logic is awful, and should be called out for what he did, but Joyner is being too petty about the whole situation, letting it consume him. Hes my favorite rapper by far and I resoect him for standing up for himself but at some point he's got to listen when people are speaking.
Desinence Joyner isn't being petty he's mad because logic stole his idea before he could even release his song and people are thinking that Joyner stole it from logic. I even thought he stole it from logic at first
Black People joyner destroyed logic and tech. Not to mention, since he got signed logic hasn't been shit. Weak as hell.
Joe is talking and touching Joyner like a grandma that is giving the “come to Jesus meeting” to you
As he once said, "There are two sides to every story."
BasqueOblivion facts
Facts, I dont fuck with Joyner, I mean I'm not racist was fire but I feel he's very....what word should we use........ignorant, you dont talk bad about a fellow rapper that is very busy in his life, has more bars than you, better verses and a very powerful song that has changed many people. Why did he start shit when it was T's record? It was his decision to want logic and if he wanted logic that bad then he would wait, he talks about being corny about him not having the record as his number one priority but mean while he's over here still talking about when it's done and over with.
Artistically Kaylee idk if you're a man or not but men have huge egos. When you interact with another man there are generally boundaries you don't pass. Logic's manager or logic fk'd up there. Zero etiquette.
Dijone Ghost I'm not a man but I realize men have huge egos, I agree that there are boundaries that you don't go to. At the end of the day I feel They should forget about it and move on and love one another and spread positivity not negativity.
Artistically Kaylee that's true and idealistic. But if you're being realistic you understand he has emotions and feelings. So it's okay that he's hurt over what happened. And I he has moved on from it (based on his messages after this aired) but the media throws it everyone's face again and again.
Budden had me crying 😂😂 this dude went spiritual on us quick
Joe just OG'd this kid.
Johnny Lim but Joyner in his 30s lol
caleb ivey it doesn't matter that he's 30.
He did son dude. Not gonna lie.
Johnny Lim bro Joyner is 29
caleb ivey So? K-dot is 30 and he's still receiving advice from OG's. They're both late 80s babies and 90s kids. While they were still in diapers N.W.A released Straight Out of Compton.
Joyner looks pissed that joe was talking 😂😂😂😂
beef with logic??? who tf has beef with logic
It's literally only joyner 😂😂 can't really call it beef
Tru
the entire internet.
To many people
But Why Industries how is it only joyner if he said in the video russ and tec 9 aswell have beef with logic
Why is budden trying to talk like he in a ASMR video 🤣😂🤣😂
Hes not hes trying to match his voice as close to joyners as possible to try and hint for a feature..
He's probably already got sandwich breath
he's tryna match the audio quality
He trying to act like an old wise man, his bum ass is stupid as hell. He does not know what the fuck he talkin' bout.
Joe actin like a mediator 😂😂😂😭😭
Riiiight
• l • lol it’s cause they’re lyrical rappers
😂😂😂😂
Back from da future to tell y'all that they're collaborating and the song is 🔥
ADHD #flames
👐🏻👐🏻
You're not from the future
@Josh Nelson wtf Logics part is amazing
LOL that shit look like Joe having a hard talk with his young son...
Bro Logic was working on his Everybody album before Bobby Tarantino was even released!! There was a snippet of Africaayn in one of his songs so don't give me that nonsense!!!
tell em please
He obviously doesn’t know that. Logic had this shit made up for so long already.
He’s making a stretch.. idk why he’s acting like that.
6 MONTHS!!!! to respond 🙄 ok sure it's fine
Sounds like some "I called shotgun! No, I called it first! You just didn't hear me." type bullshit. When you steal you have to cover your fucking tracks or you could get sued into poverty, so of course he was "already working on it." 😂😂
Joe Budden needs to stop talking. Like, forever.
Man Like B man budden ain’t shit
Everyone hating on Budden after the Kamikaze album. Shhhhhhhutup.
Agreed
@@dutchvanderlinde4482 Budden is like a set 8 student, leave his fat ass out of the rap game and he'll be fine.
All them time joe budden kept touching Joyner i could see how bad Joyner wanted to rock buddy shi
Aint Lucas a bitch, he probably liked his hand on him. Lucas just loud
@@andrewgoetz8144 what are you going on about
@@andrewgoetz8144 joyner ain't a bitch but he would look like the bad one if he hit joe at that moment
@@andrewgoetz8144 If you wanted to keep your reputation intact, you wouldn't punch Joe Budden.
A year later I'm seeing this. Oh my goodness. The good lord Himself has brought me back here to see this replies for some reason
Joe touching Joyner way to much.
Michael Velasco if Joyner does not mind you should not either okurrrr
@@cuemayhem1121 Haha You can tell the whole time he wants to slap the fuck out of Joe.
@@michaelvelasco4021 facts!
TOO MUCH....
Joe with the life lesson. Respect.
Ros Quilliam real shit 😂 but nahh i think this dude just don't want some of the realest rappers in the game right now beefing on some small shit.
Joyner looked liked a little kid and Joe was like a teacher lecturing him cuz Joyner knew he was right but Joyner is in that hard headed phase. He's a henius and so is Logic. Big fan of both, it sucks their not cool
Fabo Andolini he looked like a little kid? Well no kidding, all new generation go through that same moment when old generation giving out advice. It’s nothing new.
Heavenisforever100 alright
Fabo Andolini I feel the same exact way
They're.
They still both young too
Who's here after Joyner Lucas ft. Logic - ISIS (ADHD)
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Joe Budden always keeping it real and you can't even fault Joyner for feeling how he feels. He's still learning and we're all human. People in the comment section are doing exactly what Joe was talking about by making fun of Joyner for speaking out. The industry is a shady business. Lesson learned.
Cheryl Leahy Where are the sentences in your comment?
Joyner lookin bout mad as hell that joe keeps touching him
He got that "pause" look in his eyes
He's asking questions and then when joyner answers he's like ✋🏽*Stop*
Joe actually spittin some real sh**
Not really, he just rambling with his spiritual crackhead ass. Joyner didnt ask for no advice.
Lmfao I love how Joe keeps saying “us” “us” “us” like he has or will ever be on the same level as Joyner lol
Mann the audio is all jacked up haha
That's just Joyners croaky asf voice
No it's not Joyners voice, it's audio clipping. It's really fucking bad.
Untitled rip x bruv
but...why the audio quality so trash tho
I was thinking the same thing.
Had to raise up the volume to hear what he's saying.
shitty mics i guess
nah it’s his voice
It's Joe Budden voice, when Akademiks or Joyner talk it's okay
Joyner Lucas should diss Joe budden
lmfao it would go something like yo nigga why you touching me so much bitch.
hell yeah
IT WOULD END JOE BUDDEN. HE WOULD JUST HAVE TO STICK TO BEING A HIST ON THE STATE OF HIP HOP
@@lucyhg2010 😂😂😂😂
Paul Love it wouldn’t kill Budden. Budden wouldn’t respond, he’d address it and talk on it. Claim to be better than Joyner but that’d be all
"Oh, you opinionated, who you think you... Joe Budden?"
I’m here from that 😂
😂😂😂😂
Why is anyone taking career advice from Joe?
Gr8one220 why not bro 😂🤣😂
Gr8one220 cause he makes more money than you
😂😂😂
Joe is a smart and successful man
@@haddisuttles1729 he makes more money but in the rap game he aint shit
Joyner Lucas got low-key barked on by Joe Budden lol
Yeah he scared tf out of me 😨
Patrick felton lol
Wow do Logic and Joyner have to fight? They are two of the most talented lyricists in the game, sad that they probably won’t work together because of a miscommunication. For all we know Logics manager didn’t even tell Logic where he got the number idea, he could’ve played it off as his own in which case Logic would have no idea. Have a face to face conversation before you let your beef go public
Parker Murchison isn't a fight, just one person in their feelings
"There's two side to each story i wish i knew yours"
He should listen to his one song, go talk to Logic, solve shit and than make an awesome feature on Ultra 85.
Haha Joyner is just mad because he is not with tech and logic is ha lol he is so salty
They're not even close in skill lmao. One is developing their own lane and style of storytelling, the other is just following the popular styles and when he does try to do his own thing he creates a shit fest like Everybody
What are you talking about? Logic definitely didn't create a "shit fest". Logic is just as, if not more talented then Joyner. Also obviously Logic is twice the man based on this interview. Just because something becomes mainstream doesn't make the artist any less talented. Grow up.
When joe talks to joyner its like father talking to a son who doesnt care
Why are two of the good guys beefing? Both of these artist are on the right side of hip hop so they shud be collaberating to help the hip hop youth cuz they really could
My thoughts exactly. Squash the shit and make some records. Shit a collab album would erupt this world. Hate to see these guys hate each other over assumptions. Yall r both fucking super talented. And are way better then all these new rappers. 💯💯
Kirk Sundstrom recently Eminem did a show in Hawaii with Logic and Sheck Wes and a lot of people theorized that Em was trying to play mediator in this ridiculous beef between the two because of the recent collaborations with both. The beef never had substance to it in the first place. Definitely think most beef these days in the rap industry is just petty BS. Lots of Sneak dissing and shit and it’s ridiculous. They could create so much better projects and music if Joyner and Logic actually worked through this
SuperRavensfan101 the “beef” is only with Joyner. He named dropped him like 4 times and clearly by this video does not like him. He literally assumed that logic didn’t want him on techs song. If anybody should be mad then it’s tech.
Nigga rap ain't just mumble vs lyricists. It's not red vs blue. It's really a battle Royale. Anybody can get the smoke. But right now with mumble rappers being a thing, lyricists all have a common enemy cause their shit is garbage. That don't mean the competition between lyricists is gonna stop.
Joyner likes to beef it would seem
Joe spitting facts, but if tech n9ne asks you to get one a track with him, you gotta go hard in that fucken beat, no some weak ass "I know I'm supposed to go hard on this beat but fuck it" type mindset, that's straight disrespectful
Yea Logics verse was whack on that
Joe actually came with it, lol
How can anyone have beef with logic?
Logic is literally the nicest guy on the rap scene ever
Yes but you don't know what he's like off the mic, I can tell from the sentence you wrote you humble with certain ppl but you can be petty but I don't know that because on don't know how you are behind the screen 🤷♂
both Joyner and Logic are amazing artists!
JOHN GRIGORAKOS Logic needs to put more logical lyrics in his tracks though
I hope they can squash the beef and make a fucking banger!
+Mehrdad Ebrahimi same
@@notacreativenamer7023i became logic fan 2 months ago. When i found 'incredible true story' and i can assure you brother logic is superior in both flow and lyrics. When Joyner raps it SOMETIMES it feels like he's reading an essay cuz he does sacrifices rhymes for lyrical depth. But same is not the case with logic. That's just my honest opinion.
@SuperSerpa every song ? Pls hear up or tits then you can talk
Joe like a fucking bad ass mafia gangster, love him he sits there listens then shuts them down when their wrong.
MMRG *they're
Lindt Br You're either a troll or a fucking dumbass!
Some Guy so I’m a dumb ass for having a opinion and just because your small brain doesn’t agree with me doesn’t mean I’m a dumb ass lol. Don’t say anything online you wouldn’t say to someone’s face big boy.
MMRG I was replying to the guy trying to correct you with the "They're"...Lmao...Don't you see the tag??? ....Lmfao....Sorry for the confusion...
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Dad teaching his Son hahahahaaha
Who is here after logic and joyner collab?
Jannes Schnitzer this true?
Ste Roe cmon man listen to isis
Delicious-Taco23 Isis wasn’t released when I commented
Ste Roe super sorry
Ste Roe it was with tech n9ne I forgot the song
I think this guys mouth is going to get him in trouble. He's very gifted so don't get it confused. But speaking out against everyone like that never got anyone far. Squash it behind closed doors and be humble.
Khalid Mxsic Well with how shady everyone in the rap game, barring a few seems to be, I doubt they would even respond to him if he tried
Mayut Majok Yeah maybe you're right man. It's very important to speak your mind but time and time again I've seen people who are "too vocal" and it builds a great resentment towards them which damages their brand. The thing I've learned is to speak up when it's absolutely necessary. Discrepancies such as this with Logic are better left private. Now if someone was - for example - harming children, then please believe that is something to be very aggressive towards.
It got 50 far
Shutup
Jibby 50's case was different though. He was actually blackballed before Em & Dre came in.
Hey look there's audio 👏 good job Complex
XXXEGGACION AYE sup mane
XXXEGGACION sup bro love your channel lol
XXXEGGACION shots fired lol
But its kinda shit
Hey look, its clickbait X channel who uploads fake songs
Listen to budden try to be Dr Phil or some shit!
Chris Watson for real.
Joe is a walking contradiction
"Let's stop this male bashing party"
"What blame can Joyner take"
Let's take that advice for yourself joe.
This is the guy who is always bashing Em
"Don't answer. Answer that when you go to bed at night."😂😂😂😂
you must be new to hip hop
TheDonutlover3000 he was trying to help him so he was saying dont answer it now think about it and answer it when you to bed
Joe Budden is a yes man
I respected Joyner for his ability to rap, and his overall skill. Don't get me wrong, I still do. But man, his idea's of how people are supposed to be towards him just cause he can spit fire are all kinds of fucked. Don't nobody owe you shit, nor the other way around. He's like a damn middle school child that can't let shit go, and makes up beef in his own head to feel relevant. Lost all of my respect in 14 minutes and 53 seconds. Damn.
Factuallll
Same here, man. This isn't even about Logic tbh. If he had this same beef with any other artist I still would've lost respect.
Agreed everybody loves to hate on logic
Me too man
I really don’t think Bruh gives a fuck if you lose respect for him tbh
"Logic don't wanna meet new people". For all of you guys who will antagonize Logic for that statement, Logic already stated he doesn't fuck with a lot of people. That's just the person he is. Gotta be in your feelings because someone don't wanna friend you? And now your mad at someone for doing worse than you on an track?Why you worried about somebody else? Stay humble. If you really wanted to reach out to Logic, you would've got in contact with him in private and been like "Hey man, I see a few problems with the lyrics I think we can go over and refine". Ain't no taking sides on this debate though. Logic still kind of suspect for that phone number song after Joyner released his shit. Can't say who in the wrong here though.
Jerry the Mouse logic has social anxiety
That's because he's bitchmade. He's has little guy complex. That's why he's always proving he's black in the bars of all his joints. fuckem
That's the problem with people who attempt to put shame on Logic. They always use the old "he tries to prove that he's half black, half white" statement as a scapegoat because that's the only thing "wrong" with Logic's music. Meanwhile, society today listens to songs about sex, money, drugs, lean. In reality, Logic raps about all that, which is why on his recent album he states "Sex, money, pussy, money, weed, everywhere I look a killing spree, everything they wanted me to be, is everything I turned out to be". The thing that kinda leaves me with an question mark on my head is why people always use that certain statement. 'Under Pressure' and 'The Incredible True Story' and 'Bobby Taratino' had nothing to with rascism, equality, etc. But the moment Logic made an album, just one album about suicide, racism, and God, everyone want to hop on the Logic hate train. His mixtapes were clearly for the old heads such as myself. Now you can comment back and bash me for what I see is the honest truth, or don't comment at all. Unapologetically the truth.
xtTamii I knew that. If I stated he has social anxiety instead of what I said, people would try to bash me for using that as a scapegoat
Logic mentions being part black just as much as Future mentions Percocet
Why is budden talking like the grandma from “sing for me/I’m dying of thirst” by Kendrick Lamar.
Lollllllll
😂😂😂
I’m honestly looking at Joyner when joe was giving him crap, he looks unimpressed....
Joyner prolly have too big of an ego to listen to anyone else tho tbh like he famous
Out of topic but why are lil pumps concerts 18+ but lil pump is 17 🤷♀️😂😂
Idk, Why are you stealing jokes from other people
Tripzz they’re not 18 & up and if it is 18+ it’s probably because he smokes weed at his concerts sometimes. Little kids dead ass go to his concerts so he has to put it 18+.
Stop stealing jokes
Tripzz hahah
Kid stop stealing meme
It's sad to see that people actually think all Logic does is talk about him being biracial, it's funny as a meme but if you actually listened to his other albums and mix tapes he barely ever brings it up
Lucksual seriously, I guarantee you no one can name more than 3 songs on everybody where he talk specifically about his own race and his struggles along with it. 🤷 even in all of his music released he talks about his race less than 3% of every song. and if there's a song with race it's maybe one or two lines
Lucksual His mixtapes coming up and some of his albums have him talking about his biracial struggles. Only reason people don’t fuck with it is because it ain’t relatable. Nothing wrong with it.
Mitwelve Butler if there is a song where he mentions his race in his mixtapes there's only maybe 1-5 lines MAX, but I get where you're coming from
yeah he did talk about it on earlier projects just very rarely
Cinny the problem is that people don't know when to leave a joke as a joke... yeah logic has done the whole " hey guess don't forget I'm half black " thing... cool we laugh and do whatever.... then you have mfs who take that shit seriously and say dumb shit like " that's all he ever talks about"... " he's only popular because of that"...." if it wasn't for the biracial shit then he wouldn't be famous" ... way to make a mountain out of a molehill
Why Budden sounding like Dr. Phil 🤔
Basically Joyner Lucas is reaching there's no beef.
Deon Nelson he stole his shit wtf did u watch the viz FAO he don't like.logic
Bruh you from the suburbs. If someone steal your shit than it's beef regardless how the other guy feels.
Deon Nelson Someone stole his song
japneet singh I watched the video a few times to understand the problem here and found no wrong doing.. You fuckers have selective hearing. Name the thing that LOGIC stole. I'll wait.
Joe preaching like people steal his garbage Joyner shoulda slapped him
Travis Wampler hater lma
Right. I cringed everytime Budden touched Joyner.
Travis Wampler lol Joyner would most likely get popped Joe was being real don't be ignorant.
Tyler Duinkerken Lol Joe was giving him some real facts about the game. Let's not be ignorant here.
@@damediaz9014 I didn't say joe wasn't giving him good life advice but as someone whom doesn't like being touched, I could tell that it was bugging Joyner.
Lmao Budden getting his head ripped off in all these comments 😭😭😂😂😂
He deserves it for acting like he knows everything. He was being mad condescending to Joyner putting his hand on his shoulder and giving him some type of lecture.
They jus burned the beef with the new track🔥😤🔥
Its weird watching joe be calm.
i thought Joyner was gonna slap him!
He should do it man... Such annoying reporters
Answer it when you go to bed at night
I need this beef squashed so I can hear some music collab. Two huge rappers who I have respect for, let's move past this shit and make something amazing
Your wish has been heard 😀
@@ronitpable5795 dude, I'm ecstatic Haha
the last 2 people joyner has beefed with or dissed was a 17 year old kid (lil pump) and a guy who preaches nothing but peace, love and positivity and is most definitely not gonna clap back (logic) looool
RPGDixon Who can relate? WOO!
Lil pump is obviously positive drugs are positive