3D Printed GX200 Connecting Rod Engine Parts

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  • @Dadcandoit007Kevin
    @Dadcandoit007Kevin 11 днів тому +17

    Do you have the STL? I want to try this for myself but mabye with PETG

    • @redneckcomputergeek
      @redneckcomputergeek  11 днів тому +5

      I have added the onshape link to the description. PETG shrinks a ton in most cases so the bore sizes might need to be edited to try it.

  • @jondahl9826
    @jondahl9826 14 днів тому +58

    In John's defense; A plastic con rod makes about as much sense as a plastic thermostat housing or plastic radiator connector and that is prolific these days.

    • @vihreelinja4743
      @vihreelinja4743 14 днів тому +8

      In the kids defence. GROWN ASS EDUCATED MEN decide to put plastic parts in HOT areas of engines and some even dare to put rubber timing belts that are in constant contact with OIL.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 12 днів тому

      ​@vihreelinja4743 and it works.... plastic end tanks and housings easily last as long as metal ones. If you don't see the difference, then you are just plain stupid. There's no getting around that.

    • @blockhead3654
      @blockhead3654 12 днів тому

      Not the same plastic.

    • @gabrielvieira6529
      @gabrielvieira6529 7 днів тому

      The strenght of the plastics used on the radiators are 900x stronger

    • @jondahl9826
      @jondahl9826 7 днів тому

      @gabrielvieira6529 but super brittle after 3 to 5 years.

  • @bill3641
    @bill3641 13 днів тому +9

    It was a long time ago, but I remember hours and hours with Pop
    in the garage sometimes just foolin with stuff ( making it better).
    Thanks Pop...............Don't stop guys.

  • @markymark5281
    @markymark5281 14 днів тому +19

    Now you have to do it again, but this time using an acrylic side cover and slow motion camera so we can see the carnage..lol.

    • @Reman1975
      @Reman1975 12 днів тому +1

      I paused re-watching the video at 8:11 and was literally JUST thinking that this engine's design looks almost perfect for a slab of polycarbonate for a side cover ! As it's the output side the view wouldn't be obscured by anything either.

  • @Zachmansd
    @Zachmansd 14 днів тому +10

    My take, rod broke on the power stroke. Timing was just right, and crank hit the piston skirt and the rod journal hit the wrist pin bearing, and that contact gave it enough force to push it back up that little bit.

  • @jaysonstoy3645
    @jaysonstoy3645 14 днів тому +13

    My guess on the dent in the rod bearing is it hit one of your rod bolts other on one of the flats of the bolt or directly on the head

    • @Reman1975
      @Reman1975 12 днів тому

      I'm thinking it must have fired once, instantly shattering the conrod. The piston carried on right down the bore, and got stopped by the conrod journal of the crank, knocking that part of the piston skirt off as it hit.

    • @em4703
      @em4703 10 днів тому +2

      Nah, the rod shattered on the downstroke and the piston went lower than usual, hitting the crankshaft. Explains the broken skirt AND the piston bearing flat spot.

  • @SlinkyD
    @SlinkyD 12 днів тому +5

    FAFO is the basis of all knowledge. How else are we to know 'fire hot' as a youngin. Keep supporting his curiosity so he won't be another dumb adult. That smile while being lectured is the sign of great parenting.

  • @electroncraz91
    @electroncraz91 13 днів тому +3

    "With 5 hours of fiddling around, and problems, it lasted 1 pull"........ You just gave briggs and stratton the greatest ideas.

  • @ChristianandFamily
    @ChristianandFamily 14 днів тому +13

    Plastic exploding in an engine. Huh. Almost like the chinesium plastic parts they put into cars nowadays. Funny that. All kidding aside, it does make a good demonstration of why plastic parts in engines are a bad idea.

  • @bigjd2k
    @bigjd2k 12 днів тому +2

    I’ve seen plastic overmoulded cams in a lawnmower engine before! Made of nylon.
    If you’re going to try that again, use at least PETG (nylon can be hard to print, I haven’t tried it yet) but print it SOLID (in Prusaslicer just select 100% infill). Parts like that are pretty good, I’ve printed bearing blocks for my gym which withstand a lot of abuse! Delete any recesses you don’t need for clearance. The problem you’ll run into eventually is when it gets hot and melty…

  • @gamingfuchs9331
    @gamingfuchs9331 14 днів тому +2

    Plastic pressing a flat spot in a metal bearing cage befor it explodes is crazy. That was a realy interesting video. Iam hyped for the aluminum version

    • @jksjrgfpsjgr
      @jksjrgfpsjgr 13 днів тому

      yeah, those needle bearings need to be interference fit inside a metal hole to take the load, it wont work in plastic.

  • @frosthoe
    @frosthoe 13 днів тому +1

    Lol. I'm somewhere along the way machining building a Gxv340 for Methanol / Nitro. And coincidentally just got my fat lil slab of Ti that is just big enough for a rod if i dont mess up. (I shouldnt)
    But I used to be able to cobble material at scrap steel price from my company. So now paying full for Ti was heart stopping! Chromoly and Alu is sooo much more affordable...And easy to find new cutoffs / drops at scrapyards. Sadly you never find exotics there. But I do find nice new cutoff labeled billet aluminum and steel / tool steel. So thats a bit of advice for you.
    The yard I go too makees me have and wear a vest and hardhat. And I MUST walk up to the magnet crane and tell him im foraging. He also usually knows where the choice bits and everything is located. Never go near a steel pile taller then yourself. oneday youll be on it and it will collapse and kill you. Never climb the piles, stay away from them. and ask the crane for help.

  • @KentuckyFriedFixes
    @KentuckyFriedFixes 14 днів тому +4

    LOL! This was great! You never know unless you try!

  • @blockhead3654
    @blockhead3654 12 днів тому

    Supper cool project. It turns out the rod makes the bearing stronger.

  • @user-ip3tj9ct4p
    @user-ip3tj9ct4p 13 днів тому +7

    Rod shattered and the piston hit the crank

  • @jafinch78
    @jafinch78 14 днів тому +3

    Lost PLA casting using something higher grade aluminum maybe? Like rims or whatever found? Gets me wondering if can get cut with thin sheets and layered as another way ghetto?

    • @redneckcomputergeek
      @redneckcomputergeek  14 днів тому +2

      I was talking the idea out with a machines. He said cad design it with a blade cut out spacing then bolt it together and machine the end out in a jig.

    • @SlinkyD
      @SlinkyD 12 днів тому +1

      I had the thin sheet idea as a hood teenager in the 90s to make a reciprocating jet engine because I was broke in the hood. Thanks for this comment. Maybe I can do it now cus @redneckcomputergeek reply to you seems to be the info I couldn't get back then.
      Off to build a cnc cus I'm still too broke to buy one, but I ain't gotta follow nobody else's rules.

    • @jafinch78
      @jafinch78 12 днів тому

      @@redneckcomputergeek Yeah, seems trying to more simply do, can also ghetto angle grinder the sheets pattern and then weld around the perimeter once all sheets are stacked and clamped or bolted together and then drill out to be more precise?

    • @jafinch78
      @jafinch78 12 днів тому

      @@SlinkyD Check out my reply. Probably can use like an angle grinder and cut out the rough shape, maybe use a hack saw or file to get the pattern more what you want before and or after welding around the perimeter and maybe inside the holes for the wrist pin and crank. Then drill out more precise the rest? Trying to think how to most simply with minimal tools. I actually want to do a lost PLA casting of the crank cases for the opposed twin Briggs vertical shaft so to make a conversion to horizontal shaft since the verticals are or at least were more plentiful. Shake The Future youtube channel has been demonstrate using a microwave to cast, so thats a plan once I get back in the shop, post shop refurb repairs.

  • @jeffhousen8968
    @jeffhousen8968 6 днів тому

    Your crank is now nicked, that is what hit the bearing.
    In other news, you got ignition, blew the piston straight through the connecting rod.

  • @jeeper426
    @jeeper426 14 днів тому +2

    i think the needle bearing jammed or became misaligned causing it to jam and the torque of the crank rotating caused the end cap to fail which caused the rest of the rod to be ripped to pieces, that's just a hypothesis

  • @ThunderDivine
    @ThunderDivine 13 днів тому +3

    The first spark, detonation the rod detonated and blew the piston all the way down and hit the crank and broke the flange.

  • @jeffl4810
    @jeffl4810 11 днів тому +1

    My educated guess: When the engine fired, it broke the plastic rod, with the piston still traveling downwards from momentum and cylinder pressures, as the crank came around and wacked the wristpin, shattering the rest of the remaining plastic rod on potentially both the crank and wristpin, and the crank ultimately hitting the bearing on the wristpin. As the piston was too far down the bore, the crank weights hit the poston skirt or bits of connecting rod wedged between the piston skirt and scank

  • @MarcMonson
    @MarcMonson 10 днів тому

    hard to tell if it failed at the wrist pin end or the rod cap bolt ends. just some observations as i've been looking into something similar (hint composite).
    1: use a nut on the other end instead of cutting threads.
    2: it doesn't appear you are space constrained too much around the rod cap bolts, could add more material (wider?)
    3: possibly add modifiers in splicer to add more material around bolts.
    4. probably dont need roller bearing for the wrist pin, but should add more material

  • @davidlane9525
    @davidlane9525 14 днів тому +2

    That gives a whole meaning to (ONE HITTER QUITER ) LMFAO

  • @davekauffman8727
    @davekauffman8727 13 днів тому

    Whatever knocked the piece of piston skirt off the piston damaged the wrist pin bearing, that's my guess. John reminds me of myself 45 years ago, he thought the whole thing was hilarious too!

  • @acurarl9929
    @acurarl9929 9 днів тому

    Your rod hit the cam!!!!!!!! Geez crist boys an brains should be the name😊😊

  • @jamiewykes8585
    @jamiewykes8585 3 дні тому

    That SeeSii impact should have 2 loosening modes. There is a normal mode that lets it spin as long as you are pulling the trigger.

  • @shakes7333
    @shakes7333 13 днів тому +1

    At certain points the rod pushes sideways as it pushes the piston up. That sideways force may been when it snapped in the center.
    Thats my guess anyway.

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 12 днів тому

    Building positive memories of time with his farther that will last your boy his lifetime......... Cost? One piston. Seems like a pretty solid deal to me. 😏

  • @olddays2253
    @olddays2253 8 днів тому

    Do you think the crank smacked the bearing and the piston skirt?

  • @EnthusiasticTruck-xh7ss
    @EnthusiasticTruck-xh7ss 13 днів тому

    I think the connecting rod gave out then hit the piston thank you for the video and if we don't see you again till Christmas Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years

  • @donaldbaker6961
    @donaldbaker6961 13 днів тому

    I was hooked and interested to see what would happen that was great 😊

  • @beambreaker5907
    @beambreaker5907 13 днів тому

    my theory is once it went into the power stroke the assembly went downward but instead of going up the forces forced it down and pushed the plastic rod through the crankshaft and the piston forced down farther and caused the piston to hit the counterweights on the crank and snapped the skirt on the piston. i would assume that the crank also put that divot in the pin bearing, or the skirt moved inwards and hit that bearing. thats just my theory on what happened here

  • @jdjesse
    @jdjesse 14 днів тому

    Why did you not use 100 percent infill on the connecting rod? And can you try better plastic? Resin based maybe?

  • @crankhandle
    @crankhandle 10 днів тому

    Mine has a plastic camshaft from factory, has been run hard and hasn't failed yet

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E 11 днів тому

    To be fair, this could work with a bit more R&D, but without an industrial material, having a fully 3D printed rod will be living on borrowed time after heatsoak (minutes rather than first pull). Now casting a harder material from a 3D printed mold with hand-laid CF reinforcement... 😉

  • @CraftedChannel
    @CraftedChannel 9 днів тому

    100 walls, 100% infill. maximize outside diameter at both ends of rod. Don't put a lightening recess in the side. All features should have big fillets to avoid stress risers. Why anybody prints mechanical objects less than 100% infill can't be determined. Another idea to make the small end stronger is use a slightly smaller pin, bush the piston to the smaller pin. This would be to increase the cross section at the small end. Toss the bearings and just run the plastic as bearings. This increases your cross section. Many engines (bigger ones) run a piston pin pressed into the rod small end. Buy a ream same size as pin and you'll end up with a slight press fit after reaming. PLA softens in petroleum products. ABS will take shock loads better and higher temps. Maximize all cross sections so the rod is as bulky as possible. You need twice the volume of plastic as you have in aluminum at the very least. O yea, for fun, I'd actually consider SOLID TPU here with the rod about 3mm shorter as a crazy test after the solid beefy rod actually works. You could do a killer series challenging others to send you their rod designs for testing. Monetize your channel. Oh yea, again, swear off hollow mechanical parts. They suck. Fun video and test.

  • @Jep-x6m
    @Jep-x6m 9 днів тому

    The piston came down after the explosion like normal but the con rod didnt hold a bit so the piston came all the way dowand hit crank hard thats why bearing is flat. I think the skirt broke when you spun it over with piston down like that

  • @slavicstriz8715
    @slavicstriz8715 10 днів тому

    The spark kicked the piston down smacking against the counterweight which broke the piston and hit the barring making that flat spot and ripping it.

  • @Jep-x6m
    @Jep-x6m 9 днів тому

    Im pretty sure you broke the piston skirt. after it fired it pushed the piston all the way down broke plastic con rod. But then you yanked on it real good. Crank hit piston

  • @coolguy24cam
    @coolguy24cam 13 днів тому

    keep up the great work guys!

  • @cbrc4216
    @cbrc4216 9 днів тому

    Here’s my theory:
    When the hard pull happened, the compression of the cylinder closed the clearance between the rod and the bottom of the piston head. So that crunched the top of the rod and the two separated. Then on the second pull, the now crunched rod, came back up, hit the skirt of the piston, breaking the chunk, and obliterating the rest of the rod. And that’s how you flattened and broke the needle bearing. 😢

  • @lawrenwimberly7311
    @lawrenwimberly7311 14 днів тому

    This is the craziest thing I've seen ya do... I love it... might try Carbon fiber

  • @ardennielsen3761
    @ardennielsen3761 13 днів тому

    could use fiber reinforced filament along with plastic welding some 0.5mm stainless mesh wire between each print lair. so an electromagnetic heat coil would be needed to melt the screen onto the plastic... with a input in the printer to move the nozzle far off to the side so their is space to quickly melt a rectangular sheet of wire onto it. excessively ridged plastic testing... continued concept.

  • @BrickEngines
    @BrickEngines 9 днів тому

    How to actually make it run: print the connecting rod in pa6cf or ppa-cf, anneal it and make it a little thicker (I reccomend using bambulab or poly maker filament)

  • @WalkerSmallEnginePerformance
    @WalkerSmallEnginePerformance 12 днів тому

    How about a 3D printed cam? You could try various profiles easily. Might have to be careful with spring pressure to avoid wear.

  • @hayden3928
    @hayden3928 7 годин тому

    You should print in 100% infill. I make compressed air engines with

    • @hayden3928
      @hayden3928 7 годин тому

      also, if you were to attempt this again, you should retard timing somewhat

  • @carter608
    @carter608 8 днів тому

    Might be a good idea to try carbonfiber filaments

  • @robertduncan2742
    @robertduncan2742 14 днів тому

    Do you have needle bearings on each end

  • @giovanniamoruso2811
    @giovanniamoruso2811 13 днів тому

    I would try printing it solid with PCTG, I bet it would hold up for a few cycles.

  • @wildbill23c
    @wildbill23c 14 днів тому

    I saw the Ghost engine at Harbor Freight has a Mod Kit for it for $199 and was actually in stock at the store I went to this weekend.

  • @thehightechredneck9777
    @thehightechredneck9777 6 годин тому

    I say try it again in petg and maybe beef up the ends a bit more... And make it the shorter length that you mentioned for lower compression ratio

  • @SHAGG13
    @SHAGG13 13 днів тому

    Back streets back ... Alright 😂😂❤.... I didn't know BSB built motors... Hopefully he can keep rod timing NSYNC after 98° temperature hopefully doesn't make it go ByeByeBye 😂😂❤

  • @YourFriendlyHoodVampire
    @YourFriendlyHoodVampire 13 днів тому +1

    When your dad makes an entire video just to cut your ass 😂

  • @KenSch2020
    @KenSch2020 10 днів тому

    It can be a good idea to make a model engine from 3D printed parts. To show how a engine works but that is the only thing that is a good idea with 3D printed plastic parts. There will be no compression so it will not hurt any of the plastic parts.

  • @dimitrimotor2861
    @dimitrimotor2861 12 днів тому

    That's because of the crankshaft. Your piston tongue also got a knock on the shirt

  • @wadz668
    @wadz668 4 дні тому

    How about a 3D printed block instead?

  • @gradystephenson3346
    @gradystephenson3346 12 днів тому

    They supposedly make carbon composite con rods

  • @PuzzleVizion_TV
    @PuzzleVizion_TV 7 днів тому +1

    I really haven't realized that with the power stroke, the rod broke, the piston went all the way down, and kaboom. edit: (The cranckshaft kissed the bottom of the piston, along with the bearing

  • @davidotto7666
    @davidotto7666 12 днів тому

    Hey gentlemen nice try that's pretty cool but she's at spark plug fires and not piston goes down that connecting rods shot you know you're not even going to have one good compression stroke before that connecting rod snaps

  • @milwaukeebrewcrew484
    @milwaukeebrewcrew484 7 днів тому

    ditch the drill go straight for a half inch impact... i have a chinese $60 amazon impact thats 20v and it takes lugs off trucks. but fun idea for the 3d printed rod. ive seen it done a few times and its always funny

  • @dimitrimotor2861
    @dimitrimotor2861 12 днів тому

    it cracked all white when it was pressed and the explosion that had to happen to get the engine running was so powerful that it cracked and the piston tongue collided with the crankshaft and so it all fell apart very quickly.

  • @vihreelinja4743
    @vihreelinja4743 14 днів тому

    It ignited. Shot the piston down destroying the con rod and then hit the lobes of the crank and that broke the skirt and made a flat spot on the bearing.

  • @NitroGnome
    @NitroGnome 12 днів тому

    Peek plastic mixed with some fine carbon fiber strands could work actually as conrod...

  • @donrodgers283
    @donrodgers283 13 днів тому

    The top of the rod broke during compression, on the second revolution the rod hit the bearing.

    • @redneckcomputergeek
      @redneckcomputergeek  13 днів тому

      The working theory at this point is that the only flat spot to hit is the bolts in the rod. We think the top and piston slammed down into the head of the rod bolt.

  • @Tatertot_Tommy
    @Tatertot_Tommy 11 днів тому

    Well. That certainly "excalated" quickly.

  • @iainportalupi
    @iainportalupi 3 дні тому

    That connecting rod kind of reminds me of a carbon fiber submersible…

  • @teeroux
    @teeroux 13 днів тому

    The rod shattered to pieces on the single power stroke. The piston shot down with the wrist pin bearing slamming the crank.

  • @timlee1292
    @timlee1292 13 днів тому

    Great video 😅

  • @nicoleibundgut534
    @nicoleibundgut534 5 днів тому

    Its pretty expensive but peek or pei would be nice to test.

  • @williamkane
    @williamkane 11 днів тому

    Yeah, sure man that's going to last like.. 2 weeks, maybe even less especially with the heat the engine produces.. any plastic compound and constant heat is going to degrade said plastic very fast, unless the resin used to print is certified to take the temperatures. Good dad though, mom will likely never need to go to a car shop again once he's been through his training!

  • @micrys2002-l9x
    @micrys2002-l9x 13 днів тому

    The top of the rod snapped off, made the next round and hit the bearing witch flattened it and exploded the rod!

  • @Revlimiter_shifter
    @Revlimiter_shifter 9 днів тому

    Piston kissed the crank. That would be the only way I see that bearing cracking like that. Explosion. Did that and pushed the piston down. Poor 3D printed rod had no chance.

  • @lawrenwimberly7311
    @lawrenwimberly7311 14 днів тому

    End cap side to side, main rod up and down... maybe try ASA, Nylon, or carbon fiber

  • @zangetsu_the_best_zanpakuto
    @zangetsu_the_best_zanpakuto 12 днів тому

    with all these theories, now you gotta put cameras in it and see who guessed right

  • @acurarl9929
    @acurarl9929 9 днів тому

    What do you mean younthink the valves are a little bit out of tune??? WhT are you talking about.

  • @acurarl9929
    @acurarl9929 9 днів тому

    Question: why would you “prototype” a aluminum rod. “Go power sports” already sells all this and that for mod upgrades. Just wasting time.!! Now this 3d rod is a neat experiment so that’s cool!! Obviously will fail but still cool

  • @LoganHester-1489
    @LoganHester-1489 13 днів тому

    Next try making one with rebar

  • @robertduncan2742
    @robertduncan2742 14 днів тому

    Free float the pin like high performance engines

  • @davidotto7666
    @davidotto7666 12 днів тому

    Do I connect you by Bobby snapped in the middle of my guess is

  • @esqueue
    @esqueue 7 днів тому

    My prediction is 10 seconds before catastrophic failure.
    Edit: Well darn.... On a side note, your kid completely losing it is spreading that laughter too.

  • @BuddyTheWolfYT
    @BuddyTheWolfYT 13 днів тому

    It's tricky to print but Nylon might last a few hits

  • @johnmoseslives
    @johnmoseslives 13 днів тому

    Make the rod much shorter to have 5:1 compression or something, might work

  • @simonallan9941
    @simonallan9941 6 днів тому

    I don't even like the thought of using an aluminum conrod 😮, my Suzuki m120x powered moped has a cast iron one that is more comfortable 😅

  • @Survival_is_Key
    @Survival_is_Key 12 днів тому

    You should have used carbon fiber filament

  • @joshuabell1007
    @joshuabell1007 10 днів тому

    Put a 3d printed piston in it that should work better. 😂

  • @lawrenwimberly7311
    @lawrenwimberly7311 14 днів тому

    Lack of support tore the bearing apart, the bottom end failed because of the Rod flopping around

  • @laurafiler3760
    @laurafiler3760 14 днів тому

    Thats crazy . Think of the fun your giving your son. He's a neet kid.

  • @MikeGamba-gc7hi
    @MikeGamba-gc7hi 10 днів тому

    It might run but i wouldn't put any load on it

  • @lawrenwimberly7311
    @lawrenwimberly7311 14 днів тому

    Love ya guys

  • @lithiumflame8446
    @lithiumflame8446 11 днів тому

    It snapped at the bearing the rest of the rod came up smacked the bearing and exploded

  • @brianbloom1799
    @brianbloom1799 13 днів тому

    If the Plastic is strong enough there's know reason why it won't work ,with Bearing in place

  • @MrBigShotFancyPants
    @MrBigShotFancyPants 13 днів тому

    3-strokes is my guess.

  • @thomthejuggalo
    @thomthejuggalo 13 днів тому

    Try it again in carbon fiber nylon

  • @ThatMinecrafter
    @ThatMinecrafter 14 днів тому

    Send the design to pcb way and have them print it in aluminum

    • @redneckcomputergeek
      @redneckcomputergeek  14 днів тому

      That is the goal but with out the bearing insert. That was just to have a rolling model.

  • @rbrtgreenland6786
    @rbrtgreenland6786 12 днів тому

    Hey dad there is absolutely no such thing as a dumb question if many questions hadn't been asked and the answer tried you would not have an engine to try new questions on

  • @BVN-TEXAS
    @BVN-TEXAS 13 днів тому

    Watching y’all makes me wish I would have had kids. Of course my luck would have been they would have had no interest in this kinda stuff.
    My luck if I had a kid they would be into anime / LARPing or something lol.

  • @acurarl9929
    @acurarl9929 9 днів тому

    Why didn’t you use a lower rod bearing? You didn’t even want to try to succeed.!! You could have done many options for lower rod bearing

  • @robertmailhos8159
    @robertmailhos8159 14 днів тому

    3d printed connecting rod that is a strange thing to do but it might work

  • @bradleyewortman1168
    @bradleyewortman1168 12 днів тому

    Make all insides 3d printing cam piston slow work on test

  • @bryduhbikeguy
    @bryduhbikeguy 13 днів тому

    17 seconds.Edit=That was my guess. Huh.?...Surprise, surprise, surprise...You can say it had a compression stroke...It compressed ;)

  • @tobi645-x6p
    @tobi645-x6p 11 днів тому

    Make a 3D printed piston