Adv dad here lol I had a new R1 get behind me the other night on my way home from the grocery store so when I turned on my road and he followed me I took off and when we got to the stop sign he pulled up and asked if I wanted to ride and I told him I had to get home I had a top box full of groceries he had the funniest confused look on his face 😂
As a rider that lives in the snow belt spring is a time of relearning to ride. I'm 68 riding on pavement since 18 . I need to get comfortable with the bike every year. this year I found myself failing to setup for the proper cornering line and had to resist target fixation and look through the corners. I regularly go to empty parking lot practicing figure eights plus other moves. Riding proficiency should not be taken for granted it takes practice like anything else. Say in tune with your skills never stop working on your proficiency.
This is exactly what I was going to say. As a CDL driver for 26 years, I am familiar with those signs. Those signs are there for loaded commercial vehicles (dump trucks, tractor trailers, ECT...) Those are recommended speeds to prevent rollover
One commonsense rule, I personally wish all motorcyclists and drivers would always follow: The streets are not a race track. We can never know what is around the corner, the conditions of the roads and on top of all, we have others driving in opposite direction (many times). Have fun responsibly so you can do it for a very long time.
@@ma3stro681 Ive ridden dirt bikes and quads since i was 4 years old. I currently have a Raptor 700r and a crf250r that i have rode for the past few years and i now decided to switch to riding on the street.
Here in the UK the suggested corner speed limits are aimed mainly at top heavy haulage trucks, whereas bikes can normally take the corner safely at 1 1/2 to twice the suggested speed. Also, I approach right hand bends in the left of the lane and left hand bends in the right of the to get maximum view of the bends plus we look for the 'vanishing point' which gives you an indication as to whether the bend is tightening up or opening. I base my riding strategy according to the UK police riding methods, they are the best guys to learn from. Excellent video though with good tips for new riders.
I think a big part that ties into target fixation is people don't have faith in their tyres and think if they keep their bike upright and go offroad they'll have a better thance than if they lowside, but that is suchie a rookie mistake, ALWAYS lean and get through the corner and ofcourse look ahead of the corner. If ypu go off the road you will nearly always go down, that change of surface especially while braking upsets the bike and never works out well.
Great advice. The only thing I'd add is regarding trail braking. On the street you need to be very careful to make sure you can always stop within your sight distance. If you approach a blind curve, instead of carrying speed into the turn and trail braking to the apex, assume there is a semi truck stopped in the road and enter a speed that allows you to stop within your sight distance. I can't tell you the number of times I've entered a curve only to find it covered with gravel, oil, an animal, or another vehicle. I laughed out loud at the "double plus 10". Back in my dumb 10' tall and bulletproof days I did the same. Very lucky to be here to type this. Some of the guys I used to ride with like to brag about how many helicopter rides they have taken.
We are in the right place in time and space. In five years Yammie Jr. will be riding and we will see endless reviews of 50 cc starter bikes and how to gear up young Chip properly.
I was doing my turns exactly as you described with the light brake pressure going through when needed and it felt really smooth, and in the MSF course on the 2nd gear corner test they kept telling hands off the brake and to brake before entering the corner then throttle through and it don’t feel as smooth or stable. Yeah I understand to adjust your speed before entering the turn but they would call us out for doing it how it’s supposed be done correctly
Low speed corners you shouldn't use the front brake. Not sure the speed based on gear, but it's better habit to use rear brake for slow speed maneuvers and front brake for faster pace
@@madguitarist63 I drag a little rear brake in higher speed corners sometimes, too. Just depends on the situation. It lengthens the wheel base, and makes it more stable. I wouldn’t do it on a track, prolly, but at street speeds, it works really well.
About a month ago I took a turn wide at 45, shattered my wrist. Been riding on dirt for 4 years and street for 1 year, took about five seconds for all my experience to become useless. Ride safe out there guys it goes bad fast.
Weirdly enough, im always thinking about avoiding target fixation but i took a corner too fast a couple days ago and i didnt even notice at first that i looked at what i wanted to avoid. Luckily i still made the corner (it was suuper close, rear brake saved my ass there)
Excellent. I won't be as concerned about breaking through corners now. It felt like I should be able to but was warned off it by, as you said, the state's contracted trainers. I'll start gently loading up the front end from now on. City streets aren't reliably clean and flat but I know my home town fairly well, and don't need extreme breaking (or extreme anything else) when I'm just riding the streets. Thanks again for the good advice.
Im in the u.k. passed my test last month after 10 years riding 125s on the road.Ive had my fz6 less than a month and i will be trying these techniques.
Yesterday I'm going up to Neals Gap hitting my corners at 37-44 which is fast for me and then 5 guys pass me like im standing still pop pop pop corners are nothing and they aren't dragging the knee yet. I am the king of trail braking. its how I drive my car and get 50k miles out of cheap tires and haven't had to change my brakes since the car is new but its no fun not being able to keep up with anyone. thanks for explaining why using the brakes in the corner is ok if you load them first. It just seemed to work (thanks dragon tail), my bike doesnt have abs.
Another fun and informative video. Regarding the posted “suggested speeds” signs, I recall reading somewhere that they’re for “worst case/adversed” conditions. So I guess those super slow speeds make sense, say when there’s a downpour. Anyhoooo, keep up the great work!
The D.O.T corner speed recommendations are based on unbaffled Tanker trucks taking the turn. They are quite conservative. But it is not a bad idea to drive in you comfort level. If that level is the recommended speed, then so be it. It is not a racetrack, you have nothing to prove, and there is not an emergency track crew or an ambulance standing by. Asa side note... It is embarrassing as hell to get carted off by the EMT's because you pushed past your skill level and ended up in the ditch, Pluss that is an EXPENCIVE ego trip. Just sayin..
Man I'm a brand new writer I've only been riding for a month and I keep watching tons of motorcycle content just tons and tons of it and watching this video is my numbingly stupid like do younger kids or younger more unexperienced riders actually make these mistakes this stuff feels like such common sense like I'm watching you ride and I feel like I ride the same way I don't feel like I'm as good as you that would be arrogant to say but it just seems such a common sense thing and it might be because I've been a motor enthusiast I've driven track days and actual cars going to drag strips and I have nothing but sports cars that can go 170 and I get to drive like that all the time that driving a bike just doesn't feel like a huge step up I love it it's the best thing I've ever purchased but so much of this just seems so natural in common sense to me
its so weird how in US they train u to use all front brake and 0 rear brake but personally for me if i feel like im going a bit wide or trying to control my speed in a turn, i guess singapore taught me to use rear brake more
I’ve always been under the impression, braking with the front in a corner is a no bueno. It causes the front tire and suspension to get overloaded and reduces traction/steering, as well causes bike to stand up. When cornering you trail brake (drag the rear)
took a corner a little quick (130) on the highway the other day and took the wide line as we had some left lane hogs and almost went onto the shoulder should've taken it slower because i haven't taken that line before at those speeds . learned and still learning though !
Would be super cool but seems much harder to implement than a car where an editor can just watch foot-cam footage to create a graphic, or real race cars that just already have that data
Solid video, thanks. One thing that's worth clarifying is that when trail braking into a corner, there must be no throttle, it should be closed completely. I had a friend who argued with me that you needed throttle to carry the bike through the corner WHILE using the front brakes at the same time. This is creating two counteracting forces at the same time and while on a 300cc, it MAY work - but definitely not so on something more powerful.
Yammy, I would not take it for granted that the posted speed for a curve is conservative, especially if you are unfamiliar with the road. There are curves in my area that will mess you up if you take them too fast. I know of an onramp not a mile from my house that will put you in the wall if you try to take it faster than the posted 25mph limit.
There is a turn in my area (from Europe here) on a road where the speed limit is 70kmh, but that corner even in a car i have to take it at 40kmh because its so sharp. There are no signs that its so sharp, im happy im fermilar with it because if i passed by on my bike without knowing that turn it could get really dangerous.
Just yesterday, a kid crashed a corner totalling his new BMW M 1000RR AND HE WAS FORTUNATE only his bike hit the small boulder! He did go to the hospital though with injuries. Watching the video from the rider behind that caught it all, the Reason for the crash was too much speed!!
@thagingerninjer5391 It was evident from looking at the marks on the road that the bike was definitely doing its job as its traction control was overcome by the amount of speed he had. So yeah, you're right. It was definitely lack of skill because he shouldn't Have been going that fast.
@magnus6003 looked in his twenties. Big balls though from how he rode. I never rode like that on canyon roads. Now he knows....! Not sure if he was crying due to the pain or the realization of what had just happened. Was not pretty! It was sad!
Just had my first lay down on my bike yesterday, got targeted fixated on a corner and kept going straight. Luckily was only going around 30 mph, went off into soft grass, got a small bruise on my thigh and the license plate holder got snapped off after I laid the bike down on me. Kinda sad I can't ride again today legally to practice more but it is what it is.
I have no problem with leaning over hard on my right turns but it just doesnt feel right leaning so hard to my left so I counter balance. I took a trip on the blue ridge parkway . After about 40 miles I was able to corner faster after committing to turns that just seemed not to end soon enough. The next day I was on the Dragon Tail being forced to commit to crazy turns one after another. I never hit the brakes so hard or leaned so hard. It's easier to do when you know you have to get to the next pull off before the murder cycle behind you catches up.
I would like to bring up tunnels. I felt blind and as if I would lose my balance if the tunnels I was in on the blue ridge would have been too much longer than they were. I slowed down which helped but its a wierd feeling I hadn't experienced before.
I would say knowing the route is the biggest thing. I have a corner near me marked 20mph and you could do that on a bike but in a car you would crash if you took it faster than 5
Thanks for the video. I understand everything you said. My issue is I think I'm turning to early out of fear of running off the outside corner. This then obviously changes my line to where I'm on the inside to early and not pointed at my exit. I think I'm sweeping to wide when this happens. I ride a Goldwing and scrape the pegs quite often which scares me too. Any advise?
Tips for trail braking? I struggle to properly manipulate the brake and throttle at the same time. Either braking causes me to close the throttle or adding throttle causes me to stab the brake. Is this just something to build muscle memory for?
uk guy here. looking to buy 1st motorcycle , and legally it has to be a 125 and looked around the net and decided on the zontes gk125. just wanted to know if i'm making the right decision
Hey quick question, could you make a video about what 125cc bike is best for a new beginner rider. That is because i wanna get a bike, but because i live in the netherlands i can only start on a 125cc bike. BTW love your video's they are very educational for me as a beginner rider.
corner markers & the suggested safe and comfortable speed... Here we use Kilometres, and it's not common to see a 15km/h sign, they exist, generally it means taking a very wide line in first gear. 25km corners are 2nd gear corners and quite comfortable to do at 45km/h. 35km corners are 3rd gear and 65 is easy, but I don't recommend going faster without practicing that particular corner a few times, 45k corners are 4th gear @ 80km/h, just cruising & 55km corners are well change down if you need to but maintain the 100km/h you were already legally doing & just left off while entering the corner... and then slow right down because some idiot was scared of the road not being dead straight and is now holding everyone up!
The curve speeds are more directed to semi trucks anything higher than posted curve speed is highly likely of a rollover. Thats why when in a car or bike seems way too slow
in a full days ride there's so many opportunities to get to wrong lol, all it takes is a few seconds of losing concentration, which i guess we all do on occasion, and imho the main culprit for turning it into a tragedy is speed
So how much being on a the brake in the corner is influenced by the bike? I have a scrambler 400x and it’s geared so short that I can engine break pretty much in every corner.
For my clarity, when braking going into a corner and then trail braking, the throttle is off? Until done trail braking and then increase throttle to maintain speed in the corner and then increase more when exiting.
When doing low speed cornering like maybe 35- 40mph when it's really tight l find myself leaning a leg out for fun so I feel all spider monkey cool haha I like that term, 'spider monkey'
Being a newer rider with some issues that made it uncomfortable for me to ride wide with a clutch, how can these lessons be adapted DCT riders? How about a video on low speed on an automatic?
Hey, love your videos, I was wondering, maybe you’ve made a video explaining this already, but what does it mean when you say 10 tenths or 6 tenths or whatever? I’ve heard you mention this in a few videos and was just curious what you’re referring to 6:45
You mentioned not altering your body position. What would you do if you have a disability and therefore can not ride on 2 wheels. How would you corner on a Can am Ryker for example? Is there a more fun bike on 3 wheels that has the safety of a trike but the fun of a bike?
How do you fix yourself mid-target fixation? Like you slipped up, fixated… now you’re headed for the ditch. Happened in one second. Do you double down and lean hard to get out of it?
No. It is not legal. However the guy in front waved him to pass , guy in front was also on a bike so he didn't really need to get far into the other lane to do so, and he had clear visibility so while not legal, he was very safe in doing so
@@bol.1615 Thanks for the reply. I only asked as here in the U.K. we have solid double white lines and crossing them to overtake another vehicle as Yammie did would get you points on your license and a fine. Sadly, whether it’s safe or not makes no difference to our traffic police!
sticking a knee out... and then dirt bikers & people on scooters put a foot out. I can't comment on Dirt Bikes, but I do own a scooter still, and putting that foot out and forward, as well as trail braking makes a huge difference, without it the front feels like it's about to go bye bye!
Another thing that beginners do is completely freeze up in a corner and run wide. It's like they have no belief that the bike can be lent over further to decrease the radius and that leaning the bike will always result in a crash. So, in a microsecond they choose to hit a tree or bin it in the dirt rather than risk the unlikely chance they'll lowside.
@michaelmurdock4607 ok. I'm only 1 month into owning a Ninja 500. Never been on a bike until I bought it. So far my only issues are knowing when shift, like how high I should let the RPMs go
@CrunchDramaNetwork Ah, well.... If you have the owners manual (assuming that's still a thing) it should have recommended upshift and downshift speeds. All my bikes have had such recommendations, but then unaccountably been without tachometer with which to conform to those recommendations. Absent the manual or a tach, here's what you do: Whatever gear you're in, there will be speeds where the engine is lugging because you're too slow for that gear and speeds where you can tell the engine really needs to move up to the next gear because you're too fast - you know that already. You stay away from those speeds unless you're shifting, of course. Everything else is good. To answer your specific question, for just toodling on down the road, find a gear where the engine has finished lugging and just started pulling. You probably aren't in the power band yet, but the engine will sound.... relaxed and happy, for lack of better terms. That feeling/sound (based on what I've ridden over the years) will probably cover about a 10mph range, which will allow for a leisurely pass or a slowing down for corners without shifting.
@michaelmurdock4607 very, very usefull information!! I was worried staying in a lower gear was hurting the bike but I noticed when downshifting a jerking motion. I have alot to learn and I'm taking the advice I get from experienced riders to heart! I appreciate the reply
How come you didn't flash them the head light. I thought that's what that trigger was for? And what about using your horn!? I was told on the freeway to put your knee out when a semi goes by so you don't get blown off the road!?
You should call it a motorcycle lottery. "Giveaway" implies that you dont have to buy things on your website in order to have a "chance" at a "free" bike bud.
By law you don’t. You just have to send an entry ticket by mail to a specific sweepstakes address for a single entry. However buying something from the website gives you many many entries.
The state of education is generally dreadful. Teachers seem to think that obtuse triangles and the meaning of "Mody Dick" are important. They make great "gotcha" test questions to separate out the good and bad students. What they really should be teaching is F=Mv^2/R and F=Mg. Vector addition and subtraction. Necessary for positive cambered roads where centrifugal force actually adds to the normal force. The co-efficient of friction (force in the place of the roadway/force normal to the roadway) at the point the tires slide. Geometry should consist of putting circles into different road shapes. You can turn decrease the radius of a turn by slowing down or leaning more. The opposite for increasing the radius. You should ride a road several times before you try to go fast on it. There may only be one tricky corner, but you want to identify it. A bit more advanced is modifying the circular path through a turn. You can't put a circular path through every turn. Plan the corner, ride the plan. If you are correcting your way through the corner, you have not mastered it. I assure you GP riders are not correcting their way through the corner. GP riders know the braking marker, corner turn in, apex, point of lowest speed, corner exit and how the traction circle works.
In conclusion from what yammie wants people to know is: 1. if you’re not going out to a track, you’re not a good rider 2. Yammie doesn’t get a lot of views anymore because other content creators either have tits or ride too fast but aren’t as good as he is.
I’m watching this even though I don’t own a bike yet 😂
Real.
Same here I’m just saving up and it’s good to have this Knowledge , better to watch before you get one anyways hope we can all ride soon enough 👌🏽
Same bro
Why not?
@@kareemm916 and go watch twist of the wrist 2 and buy the book.... its got pretty much everything you'll ever need to know about riding a motorcycle.
Adv dad here lol I had a new R1 get behind me the other night on my way home from the grocery store so when I turned on my road and he followed me I took off and when we got to the stop sign he pulled up and asked if I wanted to ride and I told him I had to get home I had a top box full of groceries he had the funniest confused look on his face 😂
Dad power!!!!
Fear of taking a corner hard is common with all riders. It took a long time for me to trust the bike, and keep good tires. They make a big difference.
As a rider that lives in the snow belt spring is a time of relearning to ride. I'm 68 riding on pavement since 18 .
I need to get comfortable with the bike every year. this year I found myself failing to setup for the proper cornering line and had to resist target fixation and look through the corners.
I regularly go to empty parking lot practicing figure eights plus other moves.
Riding proficiency should not be taken for granted it takes practice like anything else. Say in tune with your skills never stop working on your proficiency.
As a former commercial driver. The suggested speed(yellow) signs are kinda meant for big trucks. Not always but thats what I was taught.
Unless it says 15 mph curve. 😅
The career college where I taught truck driving we said the yellow sign is for cars. So go slower in a truck.
This is exactly what I was going to say. As a CDL driver for 26 years, I am familiar with those signs. Those signs are there for loaded commercial vehicles (dump trucks, tractor trailers, ECT...) Those are recommended speeds to prevent rollover
One commonsense rule, I personally wish all motorcyclists and drivers would always follow: The streets are not a race track. We can never know what is around the corner, the conditions of the roads and on top of all, we have others driving in opposite direction (many times). Have fun responsibly so you can do it for a very long time.
Making sure no one’s coming up your rear sounds kinda sus
I just completed my MSF course today. Going to pick up my new bike tomorrow.
wishing you the best on your journey
ride safe buddy
Stay vigilant and don't get complacent. Have fun on your journey.
A motorcycle course doesn’t mean you can ride. That takes years of practice, preferably off road first …
@@ma3stro681 Ive ridden dirt bikes and quads since i was 4 years old. I currently have a Raptor 700r and a crf250r that i have rode for the past few years and i now decided to switch to riding on the street.
Here in the UK the suggested corner speed limits are aimed mainly at top heavy haulage trucks, whereas bikes can normally take the corner safely at 1 1/2 to twice the suggested speed. Also, I approach right hand bends in the left of the lane and left hand bends in the right of the to get maximum view of the bends plus we look for the 'vanishing point' which gives you an indication as to whether the bend is tightening up or opening. I base my riding strategy according to the UK police riding methods, they are the best guys to learn from. Excellent video though with good tips for new riders.
I think a big part that ties into target fixation is people don't have faith in their tyres and think if they keep their bike upright and go offroad they'll have a better thance than if they lowside, but that is suchie a rookie mistake, ALWAYS lean and get through the corner and ofcourse look ahead of the corner. If ypu go off the road you will nearly always go down, that change of surface especially while braking upsets the bike and never works out well.
Great advice. The only thing I'd add is regarding trail braking. On the street you need to be very careful to make sure you can always stop within your sight distance. If you approach a blind curve, instead of carrying speed into the turn and trail braking to the apex, assume there is a semi truck stopped in the road and enter a speed that allows you to stop within your sight distance. I can't tell you the number of times I've entered a curve only to find it covered with gravel, oil, an animal, or another vehicle.
I laughed out loud at the "double plus 10". Back in my dumb 10' tall and bulletproof days I did the same. Very lucky to be here to type this. Some of the guys I used to ride with like to brag about how many helicopter rides they have taken.
Must have been riding with Max Wrist. Wait, what am I saying - if you had been, you would have been airlifted yourself.
We are in the right place in time and space. In five years Yammie Jr. will be riding and we will see endless reviews of 50 cc starter bikes and how to gear up young Chip properly.
I was doing my turns exactly as you described with the light brake pressure going through when needed and it felt really smooth, and in the MSF course on the 2nd gear corner test they kept telling hands off the brake and to brake before entering the corner then throttle through and it don’t feel as smooth or stable. Yeah I understand to adjust your speed before entering the turn but they would call us out for doing it how it’s supposed be done correctly
I might not be able to resist googling "trail braking" for them, but I'd prob just say yeah sure and go right back to what feels comfortable
Low speed corners you shouldn't use the front brake. Not sure the speed based on gear, but it's better habit to use rear brake for slow speed maneuvers and front brake for faster pace
The msf course is meant to teach people that have never sat on a bike how to ride one. After you ride for six months, you should forget half of it.
@@madguitarist63 I drag a little rear brake in higher speed corners sometimes, too. Just depends on the situation. It lengthens the wheel base, and makes it more stable. I wouldn’t do it on a track, prolly, but at street speeds, it works really well.
Recently got my r3 and I'm learning 🙏
About a month ago I took a turn wide at 45, shattered my wrist. Been riding on dirt for 4 years and street for 1 year, took about five seconds for all my experience to become useless. Ride safe out there guys it goes bad fast.
Weirdly enough, im always thinking about avoiding target fixation but i took a corner too fast a couple days ago and i didnt even notice at first that i looked at what i wanted to avoid. Luckily i still made the corner (it was suuper close, rear brake saved my ass there)
This would have been helpful yesterday before I low sided on a wet road marking.
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Best and most informative content so far from Yammie. Waiting for these one for decades. ❤
I love the humor you add to your lessons 😂
Double the sign plus ten is tough on those 15-25 mph corners, but it’s fairly easy on anything faster.
Whats this?? A NOOB video in my feed!! He sounds so good and calm. Lol. Love it.
Excellent. I won't be as concerned about breaking through corners now. It felt like I should be able to but was warned off it by, as you said, the state's contracted trainers. I'll start gently loading up the front end from now on. City streets aren't reliably clean and flat but I know my home town fairly well, and don't need extreme breaking (or extreme anything else) when I'm just riding the streets. Thanks again for the good advice.
Your never too old to learn.
I appreciate the additional knowledge for braking 👍🏼👍🏼 thanks Mr. Yam
Great vid, I'll be out practicing my trail braking tomorrow.
Im in the u.k. passed my test last month after 10 years riding 125s on the road.Ive had my fz6 less than a month and i will be trying these techniques.
Yesterday I'm going up to Neals Gap hitting my corners at 37-44 which is fast for me and then 5 guys pass me like im standing still pop pop pop corners are nothing and they aren't dragging the knee yet. I am the king of trail braking. its how I drive my car and get 50k miles out of cheap tires and haven't had to change my brakes since the car is new but its no fun not being able to keep up with anyone. thanks for explaining why using the brakes in the corner is ok if you load them first. It just seemed to work (thanks dragon tail), my bike doesnt have abs.
Another fun and informative video. Regarding the posted “suggested speeds” signs, I recall reading somewhere that they’re for “worst case/adversed” conditions. So I guess those super slow speeds make sense, say when there’s a downpour. Anyhoooo, keep up the great work!
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Second mouse gets the cheese
Watching this after just finishing my first 2K miles , and knowing that Yammie got me riding the right way early I’m glad this channel exists 😂😂
The D.O.T corner speed recommendations are based on unbaffled Tanker trucks taking the turn. They are quite conservative. But it is not a bad idea to drive in you comfort level. If that level is the recommended speed, then so be it. It is not a racetrack, you have nothing to prove, and there is not an emergency track crew or an ambulance standing by. Asa side note... It is embarrassing as hell to get carted off by the EMT's because you pushed past your skill level and ended up in the ditch, Pluss that is an EXPENCIVE ego trip. Just sayin..
I just started riding my bike yesterday this is perfect timing lol
Watching your videos makes me feel confident but in a good way.
Anyway love form India ❤YAMMIE
Man I'm a brand new writer I've only been riding for a month and I keep watching tons of motorcycle content just tons and tons of it and watching this video is my numbingly stupid like do younger kids or younger more unexperienced riders actually make these mistakes this stuff feels like such common sense like I'm watching you ride and I feel like I ride the same way I don't feel like I'm as good as you that would be arrogant to say but it just seems such a common sense thing and it might be because I've been a motor enthusiast I've driven track days and actual cars going to drag strips and I have nothing but sports cars that can go 170 and I get to drive like that all the time that driving a bike just doesn't feel like a huge step up I love it it's the best thing I've ever purchased but so much of this just seems so natural in common sense to me
Your best video yet.
i love these videos
its so weird how in US they train u to use all front brake and 0 rear brake but personally for me if i feel like im going a bit wide or trying to control my speed in a turn, i guess singapore taught me to use rear brake more
learnt it from practicing s course on going fast but stable in right and left turns
I’ve always been under the impression, braking with the front in a corner is a no bueno.
It causes the front tire and suspension to get overloaded and reduces traction/steering, as well causes bike to stand up.
When cornering you trail brake (drag the rear)
took a corner a little quick (130) on the highway the other day and took the wide line as we had some left lane hogs and almost went onto the shoulder should've taken it slower because i haven't taken that line before at those speeds . learned and still learning though !
Mph?
@@bigbossxero he said 13000000000 mph
@@bigbossxero yea
it would be cool that your videos had some kind of overlay of the controls or a rough graphic of acceleration, braking, shifting a la Grand Turismo...
Would be super cool but seems much harder to implement than a car where an editor can just watch foot-cam footage to create a graphic, or real race cars that just already have that data
Look through corner, push down on inside peg helps lean the bike, adjust your speed, trail brake if necessary.
I’m getting a Vulcan 900 next week I can’t wait to start riding
I bought one last year. They're a great cruiser.
Solid video, thanks. One thing that's worth clarifying is that when trail braking into a corner, there must be no throttle, it should be closed completely. I had a friend who argued with me that you needed throttle to carry the bike through the corner WHILE using the front brakes at the same time. This is creating two counteracting forces at the same time and while on a 300cc, it MAY work - but definitely not so on something more powerful.
I feel like it's kinda hard to trail brake on my fz 07 because it has so much engine braking
Yammy, I would not take it for granted that the posted speed for a curve is conservative, especially if you are unfamiliar with the road. There are curves in my area that will mess you up if you take them too fast. I know of an onramp not a mile from my house that will put you in the wall if you try to take it faster than the posted 25mph limit.
There is a turn in my area (from Europe here) on a road where the speed limit is 70kmh, but that corner even in a car i have to take it at 40kmh because its so sharp. There are no signs that its so sharp, im happy im fermilar with it because if i passed by on my bike without knowing that turn it could get really dangerous.
Just yesterday, a kid crashed a corner totalling his new BMW M 1000RR AND HE WAS FORTUNATE only his bike hit the small boulder! He did go to the hospital though with injuries. Watching the video from the rider behind that caught it all, the Reason for the crash was too much speed!!
Too little skill is what caused it. Too much speed is rare. That bike is capable of doing a lot more than 99% of riders are skilled enough for.
@thagingerninjer5391 It was evident from looking at the marks on the road that the bike was definitely doing its job as its traction control was overcome by the amount of speed he had. So yeah, you're right. It was definitely lack of skill because he shouldn't Have been going that fast.
"Kid" and "BMW M 1000RR". Sounds like an upcoming darwin award
@magnus6003 looked in his twenties. Big balls though from how he rode. I never rode like that on canyon roads. Now he knows....! Not sure if he was crying due to the pain or the realization of what had just happened. Was not pretty! It was sad!
The only way I do the advisory speed for corners is when conditions are bad, OR I'm in a semi truck.
Just had my first lay down on my bike yesterday, got targeted fixated on a corner and kept going straight. Luckily was only going around 30 mph, went off into soft grass, got a small bruise on my thigh and the license plate holder got snapped off after I laid the bike down on me.
Kinda sad I can't ride again today legally to practice more but it is what it is.
I have no problem with leaning over hard on my right turns but it just doesnt feel right leaning so hard to my left so I counter balance. I took a trip on the blue ridge parkway . After about 40 miles I was able to corner faster after committing to turns that just seemed not to end soon enough. The next day I was on the Dragon Tail being forced to commit to crazy turns one after another. I never hit the brakes so hard or leaned so hard. It's easier to do when you know you have to get to the next pull off before the murder cycle behind you catches up.
When trail braking whats the best front vs back braking balance? And does it differ much from regular breaking to get the most out the bike? Thanks!
im guessing that the give away bike is USA only?? love your vids
Yoo bro have you planned on coming out to nc sometime
I would like to bring up tunnels. I felt blind and as if I would lose my balance if the tunnels I was in on the blue ridge would have been too much longer than they were. I slowed down which helped but its a wierd feeling I hadn't experienced before.
I would say knowing the route is the biggest thing. I have a corner near me marked 20mph and you could do that on a bike but in a car you would crash if you took it faster than 5
Thanks for the video. I understand everything you said. My issue is I think I'm turning to early out of fear of running off the outside corner. This then obviously changes my line to where I'm on the inside to early and not pointed at my exit. I think I'm sweeping to wide when this happens. I ride a Goldwing and scrape the pegs quite often which scares me too. Any advise?
Tips for trail braking? I struggle to properly manipulate the brake and throttle at the same time. Either braking causes me to close the throttle or adding throttle causes me to stab the brake. Is this just something to build muscle memory for?
uk guy here. looking to buy 1st motorcycle , and legally it has to be a 125 and looked around the net and decided on the zontes gk125. just wanted to know if i'm making the right decision
Hey quick question, could you make a video about what 125cc bike is best for a new beginner rider. That is because i wanna get a bike, but because i live in the netherlands i can only start on a 125cc bike. BTW love your video's they are very educational for me as a beginner rider.
corner markers & the suggested safe and comfortable speed... Here we use Kilometres, and it's not common to see a 15km/h sign, they exist, generally it means taking a very wide line in first gear. 25km corners are 2nd gear corners and quite comfortable to do at 45km/h. 35km corners are 3rd gear and 65 is easy, but I don't recommend going faster without practicing that particular corner a few times, 45k corners are 4th gear @ 80km/h, just cruising & 55km corners are well change down if you need to but maintain the 100km/h you were already legally doing & just left off while entering the corner... and then slow right down because some idiot was scared of the road not being dead straight and is now holding everyone up!
The curve speeds are more directed to semi trucks anything higher than posted curve speed is highly likely of a rollover. Thats why when in a car or bike seems way too slow
in a full days ride there's so many opportunities to get to wrong lol, all it takes is a few seconds of losing concentration, which i guess we all do on occasion, and imho the main culprit for turning it into a tragedy is speed
So how much being on a the brake in the corner is influenced by the bike? I have a scrambler 400x and it’s geared so short that I can engine break pretty much in every corner.
And stop talking with your hands while riding.......hahahaha. Austin has some OK riding but I am glad to be back in LA. Killer riding out here.
Aren't all those guys in compilations experts??? 😂
For my clarity, when braking going into a corner and then trail braking, the throttle is off? Until done trail braking and then increase throttle to maintain speed in the corner and then increase more when exiting.
Yes, closed throttle, engine braking, releasing brake while getting to lean deeper.
Twist of the Wrist II is a good video to watch…it’s on youtube. Enjoy snd hope you have a lifetime of safe, fun riding.
When doing low speed cornering like maybe 35- 40mph when it's really tight l find myself leaning a leg out for fun so I feel all spider monkey cool haha I like that term, 'spider monkey'
Being a newer rider with some issues that made it uncomfortable for me to ride wide with a clutch, how can these lessons be adapted DCT riders? How about a video on low speed on an automatic?
Ngl, I was the very first one. 😂 Learned my lesson after that.
Hey, love your videos, I was wondering, maybe you’ve made a video explaining this already, but what does it mean when you say 10 tenths or 6 tenths or whatever? I’ve heard you mention this in a few videos and was just curious what you’re referring to 6:45
Those DanDan the Fireman videos are mostly completely taken from the compilations made by Moto Stars. He did all the work
Bonus tip #8 there from yam. Make sure no one is coming up your rear 😂
You mentioned not altering your body position. What would you do if you have a disability and therefore can not ride on 2 wheels. How would you corner on a Can am Ryker for example? Is there a more fun bike on 3 wheels that has the safety of a trike but the fun of a bike?
So you’re saying you some front brakes into the corner or back brakes or both?
I used to consider the suggested speed signs as suggested angle signs. 15mph? Oh, you mean get down to 15 degrees from the road! 🙃
How do you fix yourself mid-target fixation?
Like you slipped up, fixated… now you’re headed for the ditch. Happened in one second. Do you double down and lean hard to get out of it?
You look away and look into the turn
i wish i heard this 2 months ago, before i ran wide because i was too fast XD
living in a flat area i have no sharp corners just freeways and straight backroads. thats clearly a sign to start on a litre bike
Love Frenches so I would love to win honestly be like a dream come true! 😊
Apologies for the question as I'm in the U.K. but are you allowed to cross solid double yellow lines to pass another vehicle in the US?
No. It is not legal. However the guy in front waved him to pass , guy in front was also on a bike so he didn't really need to get far into the other lane to do so, and he had clear visibility so while not legal, he was very safe in doing so
@@bol.1615 Thanks for the reply. I only asked as here in the U.K. we have solid double white lines and crossing them to overtake another vehicle as Yammie did would get you points on your license and a fine. Sadly, whether it’s safe or not makes no difference to our traffic police!
@veefour57 same here, it's a just don't get caught situation. That and we have far fewer traffic cameras here
sticking a knee out... and then dirt bikers & people on scooters put a foot out. I can't comment on Dirt Bikes, but I do own a scooter still, and putting that foot out and forward, as well as trail braking makes a huge difference, without it the front feels like it's about to go bye bye!
I thought you are on hero xmr 😂 0:07
Another thing that beginners do is completely freeze up in a corner and run wide. It's like they have no belief that the bike can be lent over further to decrease the radius and that leaning the bike will always result in a crash. So, in a microsecond they choose to hit a tree or bin it in the dirt rather than risk the unlikely chance they'll lowside.
If you're going 50mph for a long time, is it OK to stay in a low gear? Like 4th?
Depending on the bike, 50 in 4th is great.
@michaelmurdock4607 ok. I'm only 1 month into owning a Ninja 500. Never been on a bike until I bought it. So far my only issues are knowing when shift, like how high I should let the RPMs go
@CrunchDramaNetwork Ah, well....
If you have the owners manual (assuming that's still a thing) it should have recommended upshift and downshift speeds. All my bikes have had such recommendations, but then unaccountably been without tachometer with which to conform to those recommendations.
Absent the manual or a tach, here's what you do:
Whatever gear you're in, there will be speeds where the engine is lugging because you're too slow for that gear and speeds where you can tell the engine really needs to move up to the next gear because you're too fast - you know that already. You stay away from those speeds unless you're shifting, of course. Everything else is good.
To answer your specific question, for just toodling on down the road, find a gear where the engine has finished lugging and just started pulling. You probably aren't in the power band yet, but the engine will sound.... relaxed and happy, for lack of better terms. That feeling/sound (based on what I've ridden over the years) will probably cover about a 10mph range, which will allow for a leisurely pass or a slowing down for corners without shifting.
@michaelmurdock4607 very, very usefull information!! I was worried staying in a lower gear was hurting the bike but I noticed when downshifting a jerking motion. I have alot to learn and I'm taking the advice I get from experienced riders to heart! I appreciate the reply
Havent i seen this video before? 5 times to be precise 😂
How come you didn't flash them the head light. I thought that's what that trigger was for? And what about using your horn!? I was told on the freeway to put your knee out when a semi goes by so you don't get blown off the road!?
Don't listen to people on the freeway
Those corner speed signs are actually for trucks not smaller vehicles like cars or motorcycles.
entering the corner too soon can also send you wide!
You should call it a motorcycle lottery. "Giveaway" implies that you dont have to buy things on your website in order to have a "chance" at a "free" bike bud.
By law you don’t. You just have to send an entry ticket by mail to a specific sweepstakes address for a single entry. However buying something from the website gives you many many entries.
I'm not sure what you mean by "not covering the front brake" and "load the bike's front end".
I just came here to see if the yams references his own crash.
The state of education is generally dreadful. Teachers seem to think that obtuse triangles and the meaning of "Mody Dick" are important. They make great "gotcha" test questions to separate out the good and bad students. What they really should be teaching is F=Mv^2/R and F=Mg. Vector addition and subtraction. Necessary for positive cambered roads where centrifugal force actually adds to the normal force. The co-efficient of friction (force in the place of the roadway/force normal to the roadway) at the point the tires slide. Geometry should consist of putting circles into different road shapes. You can turn decrease the radius of a turn by slowing down or leaning more. The opposite for increasing the radius. You should ride a road several times before you try to go fast on it. There may only be one tricky corner, but you want to identify it. A bit more advanced is modifying the circular path through a turn. You can't put a circular path through every turn. Plan the corner, ride the plan. If you are correcting your way through the corner, you have not mastered it. I assure you GP riders are not correcting their way through the corner. GP riders know the braking marker, corner turn in, apex, point of lowest speed, corner exit and how the traction circle works.
Yammie is honestly replacing motojitsu with these videos. Great work.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. 😂
You are a butt shifter going into the turn 😎
I am actually getting dizzy from the 360 stuff.
Too scared the corner is sharp as they need to so instead, they get the head on collision and die when all they had to do was turn sharper
💯‼️💙
In conclusion from what yammie wants people to know is:
1. if you’re not going out to a track, you’re not a good rider
2. Yammie doesn’t get a lot of views anymore because other content creators either have tits or ride too fast but aren’t as good as he is.
looking at all the chapters now i know why i havent killed myself yet in my dumb fuck squid activities, just gotta add counter steering there
15mph curve? That doesn't even sound stable. My bike feels awkward under 20MPH without clutch work.
Booya!!
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