She's like an auditor for Twitch's sexual content policy. Constantly pushing to see how far she can take it before they either ban her permanently or she changes the rules.
it's sad twitch is at the point where they completely tune out the thousands of people in the community complaining non stop about the problems, saying and showing clips of how the only fans girls are trying to go one step further to see what they can get away with and nothing changes. The only way twtich does anything is if some of the popular guys step up and go out of their way to show just how stupid the rules are, like tectone saying look at me i'm pretending to jack off on stream and twtich cant ban me because of their rules.
Honestly I don’t even care about most of the drama he talks about, but Ludwig is such a good and funny presenter that it’s entertaining enough to watch
The thought of boogie just hoppin on stream with his bare butt, balls, and back just out and about will haunt me for the rest of my days. Thank you for bringing this to my attention Mogul Mail, I hate it :)
I think this sounds like a resonable compromise, although if they want to actually let people moderate their own experiences then labeling the 18+ category as "Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches" is weird and it's name should more clearly describe what they intend it to be.
There really shouldn’t even be an 18+ area on a streaming site geared towards young teenagers & kids. I’m So sick of ppl trying to normalize hyper sexual content man. It’s degenerate behavior & the longer that lifestyle is glorified, the more incels & 304’s are produced from it every year. It’s disgusting.
@@Marryjanesbud They don't have a choice. This content will exist regardless. They might as well section it off so that it doesn't mix with the normal content on twitch.
THIS. This is what I don't get. It has to be all wrapped up in the fact that it's a livestream and you can interact with her, but people really need to be honest with themselves about what they are getting. 2 seconds of your existence being acknowledged is not worth $, it never was, you will feel just as empty after as before and here is the crux of why they spend so much, it's the same as a drug.
@@EarlHare I don't get that either. There are sites for streamers doing hard core content and some of them are actually talented entertainers outside of corn like Melody who now mostly does safe for work stuff and is still successful. There is no actual reason to watch this streamers in twitch.
this is what gets me.. bro she got hella free shit on the hub of her litterly getting her cheeks clapped.. so why tf are idiots giving ger money to have clothes on 🤦🤦
Calling it. They will just swap clothing to tight fitting clothing, gym wear, or "superhero spandex". Then do something else, like giving a stuffed animal or object a sensual massage or riding a rocky horse or something.
Went to the work out section shortly after this, there was a lady doing yoga in sheer, see-through, panties. Her yoga consisted of full display of her privates with the legs open to the camera and thrusting the hips. Reported it and she was not touched. So, guessing you are correct and that will be the next move as it's already starting.
It really does not seem like Twitch itself has had a battle with nudity etc. To me, it feels like viewers and sponsors working their ass off to make Twitch realize this is not acceptable for a site such as theirs, and twitch plugging their ears for as long as they can, untill they start losing money and have to make a statement.
I think what’s been the most frustrating of all for me was how artists got fucked over in the process. The reason the meta was introduced in the first place was for artistic nudity and even then it was pretty stringent about no genitals. And of course the new innovations of bad actors PLUS the lack of (or I guess now, DELAYED) moderation on Twitch led everything to spiral down. Idk I feel like these “new” features should’ve already existed on the platform. Lud’s absolute right that it’s very much a “Catch Me If You Can” situation lmfao.
Twitch can say whatever they like about pretending to do something about the sexual content meta they started by drawing attention to it in the first place. Fact of the matter is i still open up their site and majority of the content on the browse page is still "18+..." And all sorts of sexual content. Nothing has changed and its just become the popular thing now to try and get away with it in whatever way they can. Ir feels like it will be a while until this meta actually dies
Twitch has to REALLY enforce that shit, or it wont be the end. Even then, it's insane that that content is on the same website as normal gaming streams. I was thinking about this before I watched the video, and I feel like the only way they could get rid of that content is banning advertising for other websites on their platform. That would come with its own issues, though, like sponsored streams being banned. I think it's just something that has to be accepted as a norm on twitch now.
It's a super tough question: How do you make sure explicit content won't be seen by unwanted audiences, especially underaged folks, while allowing the maximum amount of freedom of expression, when it's hard to define what is explicit or not in the first place, when you have to do all of these moderations in real-time(cuz they're live streams).
I think the clear option is just not feeling the need to allow the maximum amount of freedom and personal expression. This is not something that’s necessary for a media platform to run.
@@a.w_. I doubt a US-based company and users from the US will be cool with that(freedom of speech stuff). Even if they will, where do you draw the line so that it won't backfire and hurt those who actually try their best to put out good content?
@@fart63 Yeah I get your point. The problem is where do you draw the line? Sure those who are naked on the stream are definitely producing sexual content. But what if, for example, a female streamer simply wears something slightly explicit while doing normal content(like that piano girl). Do we enforce some dress code for female streamers? That would be unfair to them, right? Cuz male streamers would have more freedom in terms of dress code. So let's say we enforce the same dress code to all genders. But that would create a new problem: now some types of content revolving around cosplays would not be allowed on Twitch (for example male streamers wearing cat maid costumes), which are perfectly normal content but wouldn't be allowed under the dress code. This is a made-up example but the gist is it's just hard to draw the line.
Boogie, not the man we expected but the man we needed to make Twitch wake tf up and start enforcing their own rules against everyone, even female streamers.
Thank fucking god In the past I could keep adult content off my twitch home page as long as I stay logged in, but ever since the twitch meta started theyve been creeping into my recommended even though I have never once interacted with any of those channels Itd be nice too if they wipe the clips from the twitch meta off the site too so they no longer get autoplayed when Im just chilling watching smash clips or something
This is awesome. Perfect solution. Thanks Twitch. The egrils have always been a problem but it's not like they needed to be banned or anything necessarily just relegated to a place where people who don't want to watch soft porn don't have to.
... you mean to tell me twitch's 'innovation' backfired spectacularly once more? Geez, who could've possibly have guessed that?! Definitely not LITERALLY EVERYONE.
I literally only open twitch on the following tab to avoid this. Just out of curiosity after watching this video I went to the Just Chatting tab and I kid you not 9 out of the top 15 streams in there were of sexual nature. Twitch just straight up does not care to / does not know how to moderate their website.
When Ludwig opened the Hot tubs and shit category and the first thing I saw was a streamer ending with cinderella I just froze for a moment before I realized
Twitch tos does not matter one of the lines says you cant promote porn links etc but they literally have !phub etc that leads you to porn and non of them get punished even if they break other tos rules they get 1 day ban normally 3-4 would get you perma they have 15+ bans
Being able to turn off that cancerous category is a great change. I hope they don't make it so regular mature streams have to be under the same kind of filter as these softcore streams.
Well I don’t care personally, I only watch Twitch these days to catch my friends streams here and there, I think it’s funny when people say that Twitch is a gaming streaming website. It’s not imo, just chatting is the biggest category and pretty much always has been.
Am I wrong? I feel like the blurred thumbo is gonna increase viewership (by a small % at least). I feel like if you're a coomer searching for something to goon to, a blurred image that can be unblurred by one click isn't gonna stop you. And once you do open the stream to see if it's sometime you're interested in, the streamer has more control in making sure you stay. Honestly the unskippable ad at the beginning is a bigger deterrent. I can't imagine someone deciding what to watch, seeing one thumbnail that's unblurred but slightly suggestive and one that is blurred and more suggestive, and that forcing the decision towards the unblurred streamer.
![[실시간] 전철에서 찍힌 기생생물 감염 장면 | 기생수: 더 그레이](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4nkFvwxGAfA/mqdefault.jpg)
It’s a shame Ludwig wasn’t fast enough to join the trend
He was probably avoiding it ☠️
Ok coomer
so sad 😞
or he was about a year early lol
This is Mogul Mail, not Ludwig. Stop mixing it up, it makes them angry.
She's like an auditor for Twitch's sexual content policy. Constantly pushing to see how far she can take it before they either ban her permanently or she changes the rules.
Haha perma ban you almost had me
i think this was literally the top comment somewhere else
who’s she
Why would they ban their best streamer? Twitch is getting more money from these people than anyone else
@@joeyd1878 literal pornhub/onlyfans girl
I like the idea that Twitch saw Boogie break the meta and said "mm this needs to stop now"
it's sad twitch is at the point where they completely tune out the thousands of people in the community complaining non stop about the problems, saying and showing clips of how the only fans girls are trying to go one step further to see what they can get away with and nothing changes. The only way twtich does anything is if some of the popular guys step up and go out of their way to show just how stupid the rules are, like tectone saying look at me i'm pretending to jack off on stream and twtich cant ban me because of their rules.
right!!! as soon as the men join in it’s a no go😂😂😂😂
Honestly I don’t even care about most of the drama he talks about, but Ludwig is such a good and funny presenter that it’s entertaining enough to watch
This is mogul mail...
Who is Ludwig? This is Mogul Mail...
right like im interested bc of him its weird
Yeah that’s not Lud
this guy thinks Mogul Mail is Ludwig 🫵😂
The thought of boogie just hoppin on stream with his bare butt, balls, and back just out and about will haunt me for the rest of my days. Thank you for bringing this to my attention Mogul Mail, I hate it :)
if he was a big old guy with a big burly white beard would you still be yelling at him?
@ulto2915 if nobody wants this car, I guess I'll take it
Don't be haunted, just learn to see beauty in all kinds of human bodies. That's what people look like, all of us
@@Yulenka-nah lil bro that shit ain’t beautiful
@@Yulenka-It's a sloppy mess, Stevie wonder wouldn't approve
I think this sounds like a resonable compromise, although if they want to actually let people moderate their own experiences then labeling the 18+ category as "Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches" is weird and it's name should more clearly describe what they intend it to be.
but if you name the category "this is where you get nakeddd oooooohhhhh" then every advertiser on your site will be on your ass
There really shouldn’t even be an 18+ area on a streaming site geared towards young teenagers & kids. I’m So sick of ppl trying to normalize hyper sexual content man. It’s degenerate behavior & the longer that lifestyle is glorified, the more incels & 304’s are produced from it every year. It’s disgusting.
@@Marryjanesbud They don't have a choice. This content will exist regardless. They might as well section it off so that it doesn't mix with the normal content on twitch.
if they outright label it 18+, advertisers may see that and not want to advertise on twitch
@@luthaidan4232true
I was putting up a straight face watching this until Tectone perfectly finished Lud's sentence
The way Lud chuckled and said, “thank you”
Ludwig showing his balls was truly the harbinger of what's to come to the streaming world
Facts
It's crazy that people are watching and paying her for this when she does actual hard core content that’s available for free.
I think alot of it comes from countries where content like that is banned but twitch is allowed cause yknow its mostly gaming
THIS.
This is what I don't get. It has to be all wrapped up in the fact that it's a livestream and you can interact with her, but people really need to be honest with themselves about what they are getting.
2 seconds of your existence being acknowledged is not worth $, it never was, you will feel just as empty after as before and here is the crux of why they spend so much, it's the same as a drug.
It's that weird parasocial shit they talk about
@@EarlHare I don't get that either. There are sites for streamers doing hard core content and some of them are actually talented entertainers outside of corn like Melody who now mostly does safe for work stuff and is still successful. There is no actual reason to watch this streamers in twitch.
this is what gets me.. bro she got hella free shit on the hub of her litterly getting her cheeks clapped.. so why tf are idiots giving ger money to have clothes on 🤦🤦
Calling it. They will just swap clothing to tight fitting clothing, gym wear, or "superhero spandex". Then do something else, like giving a stuffed animal or object a sensual massage or riding a rocky horse or something.
Went to the work out section shortly after this, there was a lady doing yoga in sheer, see-through, panties. Her yoga consisted of full display of her privates with the legs open to the camera and thrusting the hips. Reported it and she was not touched. So, guessing you are correct and that will be the next move as it's already starting.
true
Don’t give them ideas 😞😞
im almost sure this is where it started lol, full circle.
It really does not seem like Twitch itself has had a battle with nudity etc.
To me, it feels like viewers and sponsors working their ass off to make Twitch realize this is not acceptable for a site such as theirs, and twitch plugging their ears for as long as they can, untill they start losing money and have to make a statement.
Is there a reason Ludwig is dressed like a plumber
Morgipie about to popoff and create a new meta. The ethots evolve faster than anyone in this world
It’s impressive and unfortunate
good to feature ludwig again on the channel
I think what’s been the most frustrating of all for me was how artists got fucked over in the process. The reason the meta was introduced in the first place was for artistic nudity and even then it was pretty stringent about no genitals. And of course the new innovations of bad actors PLUS the lack of (or I guess now, DELAYED) moderation on Twitch led everything to spiral down. Idk I feel like these “new” features should’ve already existed on the platform. Lud’s absolute right that it’s very much a “Catch Me If You Can” situation lmfao.
Already got age restricted. UA-cam was quick on this one 💀
4:57 "It's basically an Anything goes category ."
Immediately scrolling over Rambo The Ape Driving A Gold Cart 24/7 channel.
Twitch can say whatever they like about pretending to do something about the sexual content meta they started by drawing attention to it in the first place. Fact of the matter is i still open up their site and majority of the content on the browse page is still "18+..." And all sorts of sexual content. Nothing has changed and its just become the popular thing now to try and get away with it in whatever way they can. Ir feels like it will be a while until this meta actually dies
Twitch has to REALLY enforce that shit, or it wont be the end. Even then, it's insane that that content is on the same website as normal gaming streams.
I was thinking about this before I watched the video, and I feel like the only way they could get rid of that content is banning advertising for other websites on their platform. That would come with its own issues, though, like sponsored streams being banned.
I think it's just something that has to be accepted as a norm on twitch now.
I literally looked up this channel 30 minutes ago wondering where the uploads were. So yeah you could say I've noticed you upload less lol.
Imagine being an exec at Twitch and having to discuss the innovations of pornstars and how to work around them. Amazing times we live in.
Yeah, okay… what ever you say Mr. Zipper.
Still never going back to Twitch, but thanks Lud!
who's Lud? this is mogul mail
@@lythe2066 I know right? Rookie mistake
twitch handled this a lot better than i thought the containment is smart
SCP-21**1: Twitch's Pools, Hot Tub, and Beaches category
we all know twitch is not gonna follow the rule and still let it slide. its all a cover up
Can't wait for Ludwig to yoink and twist this meta
i remember opening twitch after that update and literally seeing overflow being streamed. if you dont know you dont know.
More videos, Mogul dude 🙏
I'm glad Ludwig is here covering this shit and it's not JUST Critikal. I enjoy hearing different sides.
Keep making cool videos bro. Love the content
when Twitch becomes Kick at the end
I thought epsteins log release date got delayed
2:32
What other things Mr. Wig…I wonder, what other things. Something from a podcast, perchance?
Not Ludwig pointing up to the title! Oof! Ancieeeent
It's a super tough question: How do you make sure explicit content won't be seen by unwanted audiences, especially underaged folks, while allowing the maximum amount of freedom of expression, when it's hard to define what is explicit or not in the first place, when you have to do all of these moderations in real-time(cuz they're live streams).
I think the clear option is just not feeling the need to allow the maximum amount of freedom and personal expression. This is not something that’s necessary for a media platform to run.
@@a.w_. I doubt a US-based company and users from the US will be cool with that(freedom of speech stuff). Even if they will, where do you draw the line so that it won't backfire and hurt those who actually try their best to put out good content?
Do they really need to include sexual content under freedom of expression though
@@fart63 Yeah I get your point. The problem is where do you draw the line? Sure those who are naked on the stream are definitely producing sexual content. But what if, for example, a female streamer simply wears something slightly explicit while doing normal content(like that piano girl). Do we enforce some dress code for female streamers? That would be unfair to them, right? Cuz male streamers would have more freedom in terms of dress code. So let's say we enforce the same dress code to all genders. But that would create a new problem: now some types of content revolving around cosplays would not be allowed on Twitch (for example male streamers wearing cat maid costumes), which are perfectly normal content but wouldn't be allowed under the dress code. This is a made-up example but the gist is it's just hard to draw the line.
That mirror on his mic better not get lud cancelled oneday 😅
I can’t help but to see twitch as the uncool table in the high school cafeteria
0:17 already mentions stake, sponsorship confirmed
All it took was tectone and boogie doing it for twitch to change their minds, truly the heroes we didnt want but needed.
watching ludwig talk? nah i like to watch the reflection of his hands in the back left, looks like an italian man is doing shadow puppetry
Yo that's English major script-writing 101 right there mofo made me spit coffee😂😂😂😂 1:49
There should be no half measures.
I think it's safe to say that at least 50% of the twitch community needs psychological helps
Lmaoo havent followed tectone in years but that clip is bloody hilarious
SCP foundation been silent since twitch done this.
"Today, we're talking about the finale of the 2nd ever coomer war on twitch." 😂😂😂
I love the more effort into these videos but I can’t help but miss hearing your opinions about all the latest stuff
Tiktok: wildin over I need more bullets
Twitch:
As expected. They stopped it when guys started doing it lol
Boogie, not the man we expected but the man we needed to make Twitch wake tf up and start enforcing their own rules against everyone, even female streamers.
5:01 le fishe
Thank fucking god
In the past I could keep adult content off my twitch home page as long as I stay logged in, but ever since the twitch meta started theyve been creeping into my recommended even though I have never once interacted with any of those channels
Itd be nice too if they wipe the clips from the twitch meta off the site too so they no longer get autoplayed when Im just chilling watching smash clips or something
This is awesome. Perfect solution. Thanks Twitch. The egrils have always been a problem but it's not like they needed to be banned or anything necessarily just relegated to a place where people who don't want to watch soft porn don't have to.
this is ludwigs way of saying he is going to transition to become a cornstar
slime doin some out of pocket stuff under the pseudonym tectone i miss the old twitch
Lud is both knowledgeable and greatly interested in the coomer wars.
He’s got skin in the game
@@Bighyphyaids * foreskin in the game.
Can't wait to see Ludwig join Coomer Wars 3.
... you mean to tell me twitch's 'innovation' backfired spectacularly once more?
Geez, who could've possibly have guessed that?! Definitely not LITERALLY EVERYONE.
Just went to twitch. Of the featured streams, 60% are half dressed women and all of them are in Just Chatting.
I didn't think I'd hear ludwig talking about boogie's fupa, but here i am.
I literally only open twitch on the following tab to avoid this.
Just out of curiosity after watching this video I went to the Just Chatting tab and I kid you not 9 out of the top 15 streams in there were of sexual nature.
Twitch just straight up does not care to / does not know how to moderate their website.
I like you explaining upload more but also good video
in before the ban
1:55 LMFAOOO
When Ludwig opened the Hot tubs and shit category and the first thing I saw was a streamer ending with cinderella I just froze for a moment before I realized
Twitch tos does not matter one of the lines says you cant promote porn links etc but they literally have !phub etc that leads you to porn and non of them get punished even if they break other tos rules they get 1 day ban normally 3-4 would get you perma they have 15+ bans
Lud how do I get that shirt? it's sick
I love going to mogul mail when i have no idea whats happening
You are an awesome youtuber Ludwig! :)
Ludwig looks like a B-list actor in a bad Jurassic World ripoff
will mogul mail show us the censor bar
Being able to turn off that cancerous category is a great change. I hope they don't make it so regular mature streams have to be under the same kind of filter as these softcore streams.
0:50 😂😂😂🤣🤣💀
it's fitting that this video got age-restricted
Just like the sun rising and setting.. there will ALWAYS be a rise and fall of current
Meta for a new Mets to come and restart the cycle
Is this a Yard merch preview?
When will Zelda become a twtich meta :'(
The only way this type of content will ever stop is if Twitch just starts perma banning everyone that does this without mercy.
This episode got age-restricted *immediately*.
I fully blame Tectone.
Nobody talking about how the audio cuts out in the last third
That Tectone clip caught me so of guard 💀
I love watching your videos early in the day like it's the morning TV news :)
Where. is. the. GODDAMN STASHE?!
5:27 just here to bookmark the most re-watched part of this video
amazing journalism mogul moves
LMAO Teccy!
anyone else freaked out by that weird reflection in that two glass frames in the top left corner?
Coomer War is straight up the best name I've ever heard used to refer this event.
There’s a really silly situation where a current went from hardcore stuff to gameing.
This shirt slaps.
Pretty cool shirt
I just recently started watching streams on twitch. I did not know that this type of content is big(?) on twitch
The Tectone clip was just perfection.
I'm not even mad at ppl trying to loophole the new policies, like, it's not thir fault that the rule is written so vaguely.
Well I don’t care personally, I only watch Twitch these days to catch my friends streams here and there, I think it’s funny when people say that Twitch is a gaming streaming website. It’s not imo, just chatting is the biggest category and pretty much always has been.
pls make a video about tom scott. that guy is a legend and just "quit" for awhile
What was going through Twitch’s heads when they made the initial switch? In what universe does that turn out good lol
Now if Twitch removes the pool category I would say Twitch is returning to it's glory days
Am I wrong? I feel like the blurred thumbo is gonna increase viewership (by a small % at least). I feel like if you're a coomer searching for something to goon to, a blurred image that can be unblurred by one click isn't gonna stop you. And once you do open the stream to see if it's sometime you're interested in, the streamer has more control in making sure you stay. Honestly the unskippable ad at the beginning is a bigger deterrent.
I can't imagine someone deciding what to watch, seeing one thumbnail that's unblurred but slightly suggestive and one that is blurred and more suggestive, and that forcing the decision towards the unblurred streamer.