DAVID BOWIE ADDRESSES THE APPARENT RACISM ON MTV (1983)
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David was SO mad and exhibited such exquisite self control.
Respect to Bowie always.
When Bowie starts picking his fingernails, youre toast.
This is EXACTLY why David Bowie has always been one of my heroes.
"we need to play music that racists wont be offended by" is basically what the MTV dude said hahahaha
Hi, I am a 62 year old white man, living here in the UK. I have been an avid Bowie fan since I was 10 years old. Bowie was truly ahead of the game on so many levels. Everyone in the music industry who met him or worked with him or just Joe Public all comment the same of how he was one of the nicest people they had ever met. I watched this MTV interview many years ago and the affect it had on me then at that time still remains today. I absolutely hate prejudice or oppression of any description or anyone who thinks they have the right to treat others as lesser people than they. I have now seen many reactions to this interview and they never cease to put a huge smile on my face. Thank you so much. I hope all who view this interview, take something positive from it. By the way,,check out Bowies beautiful daughter Lexi Jones singing along to her Dad's songs, Life on Mars, and Starman,,take care Tony ❤
From the many stories I've read about Bowie, it always struck me how willing he was to give advice/help out/stand up for fellow musicians. He seems like he would have been a great friend to have on your side.
For those of you not from the UK it might look like Bowie is just quietly asking questions and nothing more, for those of us from the UK we know he is F*CKING angry, this is more proof (as if we even needed it) that Bowie was a class act and a gent.
Yep, the “stillness of calm and polite judgement” he exhibited was brilliant. He was definitely a very well spoken man too.
I’m so glad you watched this. The guy is stumbling all over himself.
Bowie was fantastic. Thanks Chod 😊❤
Mark Goodman. He was just a V-Jay. Pittman probably turned blue when he heard what he said.
@@debjorgoTbh Goodman sounds like he's walking on thin ice in this interview, I get the impression that he completely agrees with Bowie but had no power to actually change it, and couldn't be truly honest about it either because higher ups would nuke him.
I love this...Bowie's not hearing any excuses....
His look.. like just with his eyes he says... : you're a clown.
@@ponfed Well yeah, Goodman was a clown in this respect. He was a v-jay, not the program director or in anyway in charge of what was being aired. I expect if the v-jays could actually play what they wanted it would have been very different than what was actually getting played.
Good on Bowie to call it out.
@Uller1967 Huh! I'm from Montreal so I never had MTV so I had no real concept of who is who. The way he spoke, it made me think he was an executive or even a director. Thank you for informing me! Sincerely...
@@ponfed I expect he sounds that way because he didn't want to lose his job. I agree the responses were rather 'corporate speak' sounding, so not surprised people think/thought he might be mgmt at some level.
Thankfully Mtv came around, but now all I hear are people complaining because they don't play music anymore just reality crap. I can't speak to that, haven't had cable in years.
Enjoy the weekend, stay cool if you can.
Tap into the mind of Prince:
"This is what happens when you have executives and CEO's running a music business instead of listening to the artists..."
As a British person growing up in the 70's and 80's we had pretty much zero music segregation on TV and radio, in part because a lot of white artists, particularly The Beatles and Dusty Springfield actively championed black American artists and got them over to the UK to appear on their TV specials in the 60's.Our pop radio stations play everything, so no wonder Bowie was mystified and angry at the lack of representation, black artists invented rock and roll!
It was mainly due to the country's overall lack of segregation and it was more progressive than the States. Black American soldiers would come over in the 40s! And notice a masssive difference!
Top of the Pops😁
Yep. British invasion was a white teenage response to US blues and r and b. They heard it, loved it, recreated it, and respected it. America's appreciation was accompanied by segregation.
Yep, Top of the Pops is a great example of that! His face at the end really says it all.
At the end, Bowie’s face says it all…
He was talking to DAVID F'n BOWIE! The man was fearless in challenging conventional thinking, which was the whole point of "Rock'nRoll". His goal as a teenager was to come to America and play Sax in Little Richards's band. He only saw talent and not skin color. If we could all have the class and courage he had, this world would be a much better place. I think he would be so sad at this country's current renewed racism and culture war. We should be ashamed of our regression, IMHO.
" Scared to death of prince " ?!
Love David's "well it'd mean a lot to a black teenager"
The way the cameraman zooms in on Bowie’s face is priceless and you can see the BS detector going off for Bowie. He wasn’t taking excuses
I wish David"s best friend Marc Bolan was still alive when MTV started. He would of had a lot to say on the racism issue. I miss Marc.
Bowie was a fantastic person. He always had black musicians in his band too.
He was one of a kind!
Bowie was the first white performer on "Soul Train".
Look at the artists that performed on his "Young Americans " album.
Incredible music!!!
I love how Bowie flipped the interview. HE'S interviewing the interviewer!! He is not asking unintelligible questions, he asking pointed questions that the interviewer can not answer without sounding ignorant. Love it!
All these British rockers who came up in the 50s and 60s, absolutely idolized American pop, rock and R&B. Especially black artists, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, etc. And they were absolutely flabbergasted by Americans' views on race relations when they came here. The Beatles even had it in their contracts that they would NEVER play to segregated audiences. Bowie was another one who knew he wouldn't be where he was without those amazing Black artists who inspired him and used his influence to advocate any time he could. After Tina Turner's label dropped her in the early 80s, Bowie was actually just signed to the same label. The execs wanted to take him out to dinner to celebrate, but he said he couldn't because he wanted to see one of his favorite singers perform that night, but that they should come check that out, which they did. That singer was Tina, and the execs were so blown away, they resigned her. Then she recorded the "Private Dancer" album and cemented her status forever.
I miss Bowie. I remember this interview since I am a GenX. A class act and dignified man.
i love bowies debate style, just plants a flag on his opinion and says "convince me otherwise" and lets them twist themselves into Gordian knots. its a tactic that is far too underutilised in political debate because they assume whoever talks the most wins.
the final argument is essentially "well its not us that's racist, its our audience" i love the look on bowies face when he realises the interviewer has no idea what he just admitted.
Heroes? David Bowie. 🙏🏽❤️
Bowie called out the racism on MTV in the early days in the most chill, and devastatingly effective way possible.
Goodman, in his defense, was just a VeeJay. He had no direct control over what videos were played.
But not long after this interview MTV started playing much more ethnically diverse artists.
I’ve loved David Bowie since I was 6 years old and I’m 53 now. He is such a wonderful man to challenge race and homophobia.
David wasnt playing. He knew what he was doing. He lived in Berlin Germany and London Uk before, both countries have less black people than the US yet the German and British music channels supported black artist alot more than US media at the time. He was baffled at that and spoke on it. Good for him.
Wowww.. i didnt know this interview exisited. I grew up in 70/80s Awesomeee times. Yayy David B. For having brought awareness to the fact MTV didnt start out playing black artist. I'm a black woman, i listen to Alllll genres of music.
You know, thank god for people like Bowie!! He was one of the real ones!! Could not give a shit about colour or race. Incredibly calm, and asks all the right questions!
RIP the Legend!!
Even if I did not like his music, which is hard to imagine. I would respect his outlook and opinions.
When you say Bowie didn't need to do that, its deeper than that even; his "Let's Dance" album was almost a comeback album for him, he hadn't been selling like he did in the early 70s, so he had no reason to talk about anything but himself, and sell HIS record, but he took the moment to talk about stuff bigger than himself. A true gentleman to the end.
I saw him live in concert back in 1983. He was fantastic!!!🥰
Saw him in 83 as well. Serious Moonlight Tour, correct?👍👍🙏
@@darinmetzger9346 Yes!!!
Who is white? ua-cam.com/video/jOtX7yAobes/v-deo.html
Major artists like Bowie, Sting, Peter Gabriel, Paul Simon, etc., did a great job of challenging the music industry by playing with black musicians, and performing music that was traditionally 'black', (Not really, but that was the stereotype). While it is not the same as black artists getting the recognition they deserve from MTV and radio, it did bring some fantastic black artists to the attention of a young white guy like me.
One more reason why David Bowie as one of the most precious of the world's artists. The wry smile on Bowie's face when this absolute tool Mark Goodman is stumbling in an attempt to explain MTV's racism is priceless. Goodman / MTV's excuse is the same old line, " We can't put on Black music because the racists will get upset". The truth is the companies we're in bed with don't want the competition. Viva Bowie !!!
Bowie was always at the edge of everything, pushing pushing and pushing boundaries.
David Bowie got into music as a boy because of Little Richard. Learned how to play the sax because he dreamed about joining Little Richard's band (Jimi Hendrix was a band member at one point). Years later after becoming famous his wife bought him one of Little Richard's jackets's at an auction. So trying to understand what MTV was doing was difficult for most people but impossible for Bowie.
I am definitely glad you posted this after your previous post. Bowie was a Genius. I got to catch him with NIN in '95 for a great tour.
Holy shit Bowie and NIN sounds like a dream show… Wow I’m glad you got to experience that, that’s truly enviable. 🤘
@@Jack_Flapper For some reason my reply was not posted bc of the link. NIN did their set and Bowie came out to do 2 songs with Trent as his band slowly left the stage and Bowie's band remains for 2 of his song with Trent. They played an amazing "Hurt" during this transition in the show. Look on UA-cam for "David Bowie Nine Inch Nails Hurt".
It's a performance i will never forget.
Bowie was the best!! Very talented, very smart, very trying to make the artists appreciated. Love his smirk.
Yep,Bowie was so all over this from the beginning. As you mentioned, Bowie is pointing out the facts. As he rightly should, though he shouldn't have had to.
Rock just wouldn't have evolved the way it did without the major black artists - indeed its possible rock, prog, metal music would not exist and we'd be left with crooners and country songs. Long live rock and roll, the blues (and jazz) it sprang from, Howlin' Wolf, Marvin Gaye, Motown, Robert Cray, Miles Davies and 101 others over the last 100 years! Music from 1930s, 40s and 50s black artists inspired the UK Shadows, Who, Rolling Stones, Beatles - repackaging blues as rock :)
Good Bowie interview!
Of course none of that stuff you listed would have existed without the massive contribution of black artists, in a multitude of styles. Robert Cray, however, does not belong on that list, he's a retro stylist, he's great, but he had nothing to do with the development of any style of music. He is a guy who preserves an older style very well, and does his own thing. But the musicians on whose shoulders he stands are definitely on that list, going back to Charley Patton, Son House, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Scott Joplin, W.C. Handy, Jellyroll Morton, etc etc.....
Thanks! Haven’t seen that wonderful video in a long time. Bowie shined a light on the soft bigotry of the MTV executive. Your commentary shows your insight and your loving heart, Chod. New subscriber.
Get ‘em David!🖖🏼
If you read between the lines and follow their thinking you find that time passes...... very quickly and the opportunities that are available are gone and wasted and Bowie knew this so well.
Big Respect to David Bowie, for standing strong with Iman and fighting against racism, I have been listening to David Bowie songs enjoying his inreview, long before he married Iman, again, Respect David Bowie, Peace be with you Brother🌞✨
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His reaction is very understated which is typically English. In other words, clearly Bowie thought the VJ (or whatever he was) was BS-ing him.
Whoa!
David was on the BUSINESS during this interview.
He was like:
"Don't come back at me with that nonsense. Hey! Get me your boss or someone who will answer these G--d--- questions!"
You are an amazing insightful human being Chod. Thanks for this review.
How sad. Mark Goodman saying those horrible things. Thank you David Bowie for calling him and MTV out.
Love David Bowie! Truth! MTV was brand new. He just called themselves a rock station, but when guns and roses came out, they played at midnight 😂 David Bowie was amazing!
Keep in mind that the transition to cable TV was still underway in the early 80s. The wealthier homes had cable TV, many still did not. There were a couple of National “Super-Stations” that broadcasted 24 hours on cable, but broadcast TV signed off around 2am in many markets.
So if you had cable you would have a choice of a couple movies among the 16 or so channels available. MTV to many I’m college or summer high school students was like a radio after 11pm as they hung out.
For many, the night was the best time on MTV as the videos escaped the top playlist rotation. Yes, there were black artists in these hours, but also Metal, psychedelic, and many others that couldn’t be seen during the day.
I’d caution applying racially based mores on the content, as there was vastly more “black” content than Country music or Latin music. The MTV was like top-40 radio … picked by the industry programming desires. At night, the more diverse musical genres away from “the Playlist” that cycled through the day on MTV.
However, MTV had damn near a monopoly. They could have played whatever they wanted. What would we have done, gone to VH1? It didn't even exist yet. When it finally offered some competition, MTV bought them.
Let's face it though, VH1 wasn't filling in the gaps with black music. They were playing The Carpenters and ABBA.
@@lewismaddox4132 They played so much ABBA, Carpenters, Beach Boys, Queen, and other artists that had created promotional films to tease overseas markets and attract promoters of that time. These were turned into music videos, but were not produced to be watched on TV. The shortage of content in the first two years of produced music videos required adapting promotional films into MTV content. It was not long before Michael Jackson, Prince, and MC Hammer would be ubiquitous on MTV. For that matter in the early days you had Commodores, Earth, Wind & Fire, and the Jackson 5 among these improvised videos for MTV made from promotional and archival film footage. I’m not saying that some of the points raised have validity, however there seems to be more to the story, if one tries to be objective. If you have pre-conceived notions, you will tend to overlook the breadth of the facts.
It was not uncommon to see the people, of different races, attend a Van Halen show then a couple weeks later attend Earth, Wind & Fire, and the highlight of the summer might be Queen, Madonna, Alabama or Issac Hayes. It was a period where different kinds of music could be enjoyed without being pigeon-holed to a genre. This was one of the virtues to concert going in the 70s and 80s. The 90s began a period where audiences became more stoved piped and there was more peer-pressure not to check-out shows of a different genre. At least this was my experience. Of course, your mileage may vary, especially by locale.
Both Night Flight and Fridays introduced more music video content, and later you had similar exposure on In Living Color as well as late night network venues that seldom explored black artists that were not endorsed by mainstream media control. You would see Jimi Hendrix on the Dick Cavett Show and the Tonight Show in the late 60s / early 70s, but this was an exception in those years. By the MTV era in the 80s, one could find the top artists in demand for those shows. This gave further exposure to top artists be they black or white. This increased through the 80s and 90s to where it was no longer unusual to have black artists on these venues where they would talk and perform. Just as with SNL, these network appearances potentially exposed artists to greater audiences than MTV, or later VH-1. Simply put, the expansion of music genres and artist diversity was larger than what took place on MTV, even at the height of its short-lived immense popularity and influence.
David Bowie is my favorite singer rest in peace
The best thing about this video is David Bowie’s face. He is just not having it, staring daggers at this guy trying not to explode. He knew what BS that was.
BOWIE!!!
Ha. I remember when this aired, lol. You did see some stuff in heavy rotation early on; Musical Youth's "Pass The Dutchie" was a constant in the earliest days, but there were tons of other artists that made great videos that didn't get on. The "Planet Rock" video is a good example. The only hip hop related videos you ever saw on MTV's early days was Malcom McLaren's "Buffalo Gals" (which they'd play occassionally) and Herbie Hancock's "Rockit" (which was in heavy rotation). And Blondie's "Rapture"! They WERE playing Prince at this time, the "1999" and "Little Red Corvette" videos. And the videos from "Thriller" started coming the next year, and things gradually opened up. To be fair, there were LOTS of great artists with great videos, of all styles of music, that they didn't play and me and my friends would wonder why. There were tons of New Wave and punk bands (as well as older classic artists) that they weren't playing either. It felt kind of random; it really was "narrowcasting", though. It's the same with radio today; you listen to Hot 97 the hip hop station in NYC and they play the same 8 songs all day, every day, sometimes more than once within the hour. Ditto Z100, the pop station. There was only a brief period when you got great variety on the airwaves; the 80s put an end to all that, both on radio, and with MTV. This is a great clip, though! Love seeing Mark Goodman squirm, hahahaha. He got blindsided with that one! This guy was just an actor they stuck on TV, he wasn't one of the execs or the programmers, he just showed up to read the teleprompter. lol. Now he's the face of MTV racism! 🤣I'll bet J.J. Johnston would have loved to have had that interview. He turns to the camera and says, "Yeah, David asks a good question, why DO we have so few black artists on this channel?" 🤣 Everyone loved J.J., that's for sure! Him and Martha Quinn! The rest not so much.
Bowie was amazing and always just himself. Fve Years, or Rock and Roll Suicide would be good reactions
Albert King, Al Green, Alvin Youngblood, Ben E King, Bob Marley, Buddy Guy, Chuck Berry, Dr Dre, Eazy E, Elmore James, Etta James, Howlin' Wolf, Ice Cube, Junior Kimbrough, Magic Slim, Muddy Waters, Otis Redding, R.L. Burnside, Ray Charles, RUN DMC, Sam Cooke, Sonny Boy Williamson, The Fat Boys, Biggie, The Temptations, Too Short, ALL currently on my playlist. Junior Kimbrough "Everywhere I Go" is my favorite!
I remember this and even included it on a podcast I did on D.Robert Jones. There’s also an interview on Charlie Rose that’s noteworthy. But you have to be careful with Bowie interviews, because he isn’t always at the top of his game. But when he is- he’s one of the most insightful artists of our time. IMHO
This has always been the way it was. I was raised in the Bayarea and there was always a separation back when I was young. I used to listen to a black station called KDIA to hear soul and blues. The thing that I hated most, was when the beatles first came to America. Yes, I am a white man who learned the truth first hand. There was and still a kind of racism in the music business. Just watch who the industry backs now. If they allow a black artist to survive it's usually not for long. When I listen to music I can't see color, just good music. This works both ways. I hate to see all the black people exclaim, oh I thought he was black. I wonder, why do they even think like that? And besides, they aren't making good music like they did when I was young.
Mark Goodman knew he had to tout the "party line" in order to keep his job. You could almost see him reciting it in front of a mirror 🪞 in his head before he opened his mouth!!!🤨
Really liked your thoughts on the video and the subject the whole way through!
David married two women in his life. One was a beautiful white woman who he had kids with, and another was a beautiful black woman who he had kids with. The guy was a genius artist who was not trying to pick racial sides. He loved white and black, american, and british styles of music and even created funky new ones! And he explored them all. A true genius who was a friend of all ancestries! But still fought tradition and was a true badass! I think if anything he was not of our time but a person from the future! I wish he could be alive now to see AI and how it evolves. I think he would be really interested in that part of our history but barely missed it. He was a good guy. :)
Read the book “I Want My MTV” or listen to the audiobook. The only reason Living Color’s video made it onto MTV is because MJ liked them and MJ’s record label told MTV, you don’t play it, you don’t get Michael’s next video.
NOTE: The same thing was happening at the time with ROLLING STONE magazine. And it was entirely intentional.
The founder of the magazine, Jann Wenner, only wanted to showcase WHITE artists on the magazine. And other staff members had to work around him to give the spotlight to black artists or even women. Because Wenner also believed that women didn't contribute enough to rock and roll or music - which was insanely stupid.
Jann Wenner's racism and misogyny came to light recently during an interview where he pretty much defended why he would leave out black, POC or women artists when considering which artists contributed the most to music. He said that black artists, women and POC weren't philosophers, couldn't articulate anything meaningful or just had nothing to say, like Eminem did.
Basically, MTV and Rolling Stone magazine were trying to whitewash the entire music scene. And that's what happens when old white boomers are in charge of a company.
There's only one O in Bowie.
I wish you could turn the volume up on your audio. I have my tv cranked to 100% on the volume dial, and I can barely hear what they're saying. 🙁
They started Yo! MTV Raps and it helped Rap Music blow up. Young white teens started buying it.
I'm a massive Bowie fan. I got to meet him in 2000 and saw him live many times, love the journey. I once saw a comment where someone said they remember when this first aired back in the 80's. No, they didn't, MTV only released it after he died. As if they were now on the right path. All the racism I've seen as well as fat shaming etc always starts with corporations, politicians. As you see now they are marketing it. Look what they did to MJ, Prince, Whitney etc along with the media mafia.
It actually did play on MTV in the 80's. It was a live in studio interview so there was no way to edit it. It re emerged after his death tho.
It absolutely did air in the 80s.
It absolutely DID NOT!@@TheKatdawg65
Man, here's a prime example of someone when first realizing he'd dug himself a huge hole should have stopped digging..But, NOPE!.. He's all in, here!..Lol!..Damn, this is cringy!
Some of the early videos, on MTV were often British. I was born in 1969, first had MTV on cable in 1982 - and a number of videos did show mixed-race groups from Britain: The Specials, Big Country, Sniff and the Tears, Haircut 100, The Beat -as videos were more common to promo music in Britain. Before MTV, we in the US could watch the syndicated "Top 10" with Casey Casem.
Now, British music through Ska, Punk, Reggae did integrate musicians (and some like The Specials, The Beat really deserve a spot in the Rock Hall of Fame) You would see a British band with a Bassist (Big Country) who was Afro-British, or The Beat where the band was really half-half ethnic -due to some of the cities integration like Birmingham, London, or just these were the men or women who were in the band. -The Selector, and The Slits had afro-British Women leading the band.
Rap got into public conscious through the first recorded Rap, in 1979 by the Surgerhill Gang, "Rappper's Delight". Blondie, pivotal in the New York music from Punk/New Wave had "Rapture" in 1981, which noted Fab Five Freddy, and others as they were friends, music colleges to Blondie. "Rapture" got played on MTV before RunDMc. In England, and number of the Punk bands knew She/Reggae groups as they lived in low-rent neighborhoods, and were objectified by the Police. The Clash covered Junior Murvin's "police and Thieves" on their first album. The Clash, the Damned, The Jam were cited in Bob Marley and the Wailer's "Punky Reggae Party' as friends, to groove with. The Clash did some reggae like "Bank Robber" and "Armageddon Time", and then after The Clash moved to NYC, USA for a time, and discovered early hip-up had "This is Radio Clash" in 1980. MTV was more likely to play Blondie and The Clash, than Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five.
David Bowie is correct to point out, and politely argue the imbalance in music. Marc goodman cites how Prince could disturb some viewers,...true, he was more sexual than my adolescent mind could cope with, yet I admire Prince greatly for his talent, ambition, persona -like David Bowie; I miss both musicians.
Makes you proud, David a Brit, calling out racism in music, which seems totally ridiculous today. Growing up in England my heroes in sport and music were, whoever or whatever I liked, colour, or religion never came in to it.
there was a old MTV exec of this era that reckons he made Michael Jackson's whole career because CBS forced him to play a black man and Billy Jean was first on the pile.
I agree with David Bowie. I was a teenager when MTV first broke out, and yes, it was that way. However, the guy interviewing David Bowie was just a VJ, not the president of MTV or person in charge of programming. The VJ was just trying to say what his boss would want him to say and, at the same time, trying to maneuver an answer that would half ass explain the philosophy of the channel.
David Bowie!!, Baddd!😊😊😊
Bowie was to smart too this A Genius ❤
Chod huh, that's a word that my mates and I used to use to mean badass. :)
It's funny how Bowie talk smiling, circling around, just giving rope to the guy, then stare him to death while he hangs himself... That's a fantastic style... Bowie was THE man from the last century but his mind was from the next century
Could barely hear the interview.. the VOLUME is really low. Turned up my volume up to hear it and when you spoke..nearly blew my eardrums out YIKES! Can you try to balance that out?
Unfortunately, Mark Goodman was just a hired VJ, and had no say so on what was being played.
Bowie should have taken this to someone higher on the ladder who could have done something.
I remember MTV mainly played like top pop music mostly back in the 80s. And then they had specific shows that branched out to other genres, like "Yo Mtv Raps" and "Headbangers Ball". I wanna say they had a show for like techno/dance music or something but I can't remember the name. I don't think they had any country videos til maybe Shania Twain or Taylor Swift. Eventually those non top pop genres started mixing into their regular rotation thankfully.
At one point, MTV's VJ is actually arguing that they can play more black artists once white musicians start sounding more like black musicians. While also arguing that they don't play many black artists because it's not the right genre. So basically, they're willing to expand to other types of music, but only after popular white groups 'normalize' it. Then they MIGHT start playing the black artists who originated it.
Absolutely baffling the contradictory excuses that come out of people who've never really considered the prejudice they're taking part in.
This is great. It seems that Bowie is the interviewer😅
Bruh I watched this video at 2:30 am 💀💀
David was brit and it was strange when mtv started it was like that music as no colour.
Ha, "apparent."
How weird of MTV to say that.... in my all white small town we drove around listening to the Jackson 5....as well as all the other black artists in the 60s and on. Fricking racists on MTV (80s?)
I'm Hispanic and I lesson to Mexican music and people look at me all funny so I'm proud of my Hispanic heritage
Hey man, if you can, record your grand mother's and your father's stories, copy and save Not! for UA-cam, but for family records, for your kids and grand kids.
and the same for who ever else might read this.😁
I really dont think Goodman is being an asshole in this interview, he seems like hes walking across an ocean with a thin lair of ice on top with eggshells on top of that. It seems like he totally agrees with Bowie, but cant fully say it because of the execs above him.
I think the more "out of pocket" sounding things he said seemed more like poorly wording a legitimately nice response, but like really really poorly wording.
Edit: I totally feel you about the Elvis thing. He wasnt "stealing" necessarily, but it looks that way in hindsight. Elvis wasn't hateful or a thief to my knowledge, he was just inspired by black music and loved doing covers on black musician's music because he loved the music. It is unfortunate that he got all the credit for the songs, but to be completely honest, if Elvis didn't perform the songs nobody ever would have heard it because of the culture at the time.
This interview was outdated a year after it was broadcast. In 1984 (the very next year) all you saw on MTV were Michael Jackson (Thriller) and Prince (Purple Rain) Switch to the early 90s (less than a decade later) and almost NO white artists were being played: it was all rap.
This was mark goodman i remember him along with martha etc MTV VJs
Shame on mark
I forget the name of that doofus 'veejay', but I recall the white guy 'fro and his general lameness. This is esp. lame trying to justify the 'selective' playlists of MTV at the time. Isn't it 'amazing' how just as soon as they started playing videos for tracks from two albums by black artists that they could not hold back from showing, the floodgates burst open and their programming changed vastly? Bowie, the brilliant being he was, played this fool like a fiddle.
It was forever before they started playing metal, too. They played plenty of rock and pop. But not much else. They never played country music. Having said that, there were black artists making pop music that they took way to long to play on the air. I lived in the boonies and didn’t have cable so no MTV. But there was a UFH channel that would play videos. They were a small outfit so never played videos that had to be paid for. So no Ozzy ☹️. But they played every genre they could get. Pop, rap, metal, R&B, rock, country. MTV was for sure too scared to play certain music in the first ten years.
Categorizing music videos by the musicians or groups skin color is racist itself.
Lol who is afraid of prince ❓so racist back then though on MTV
MTV plays or used to play the lowest common denominator of any type of music they managed to dumb down generation of listeners
Bowie is right but the damage that MTV has done is more profound in other areas then racism
David Bowie hopes we guess his name as he has Sympathy for the Devil..
Who is white? ua-cam.com/video/jOtX7yAobes/v-deo.html
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12:40 - you are thanking David Bowie for using his privilege as an artist to voice the concerns of much of Black America at the time but i'm surprised you didn't think Michael Jackson too. As the first Black artist to have a music video aired on MTV, that's a big deal.
Bowie had a huge ego but not about stuff that mattered.
I don't give a shit if you are green, orange, brown, tan, peach, black purple....If you don't like Sonny Boy Williamson, you're a clown. Bring it On Home! (Zepplin stole it).
Can you name just one radio station in 1983 that played hair metal and hip hop/rap/soul/r&b or whatever? No you can't because you can't find a country station that plays Metallica either. It is called picking a genre and going with it. I don't think Metallica got any airtime on BET either. Funny how it only works one way.
In the 1980's Bay Area, it would have been stations like The Quake (KQAK) and later, Live 105 (KITS) that would have played, for example, both Billy Idol and Grandmaster Flash (those are the stations where I first heard "White Lines."). There was cross over appreciation in the alternative scene for both new wave/punk and early hip hop. Early hip hop and punk/new wave bands often played at the same shitty venues. So the audience and demand across genres was there; which explains the Beastie Boys.
Ummmm he said "we have to try and do what we think the whole of U.S.A. will "appreciate", and "we have to play the music that we think an entire country is gonna like", not accept. Selective hearing. Listen to it again. You heard what you wanted to hear my good sir!