Rossetti wrote tons of horn concertos and double horn concertos. It’s both not surprising and very welcome to see his use of a pair of off-key horns with Ebs, B naturals, A naturals, low Fs, and independence.
Particularly enjoy symphonies from the classical era from lesser known composers because there are so many gems, like this one. You can't really understand and appreciate the genius of Mozart and Haydn if don't know their contemporaries.
Being a devoted enthusiast of Joseph Kraus' music, this sounds crazy similar to his symphonic writing style - the melodic structure, the harmonic patterns, and definitely the temperament!
@@oliversvensson1231 it was on his biographical Wikipedia page. It refers to his famous c minor symphony being partially modeled/inspired by an overture of Gluck’s. Furthermore his grand tour of Europe involved meeting established composers of his generation, such as Gluck and Haydn. I read elsewhere that his later symphonies exhibited a similar structure to that developed chiefly by Haydn. His c minor symphony was even dedicated to Haydn and this suggests he held his senior master in high regard as his model. Haydn much admired this work. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Martin_Kraus
The first minute or so in, I thought I was in for more of the same, a g minor Sturm und Drang symphony, that will sound the same as all the ones I've heard, in particular, Vanhal's (Bryan g1) or Haydn's no. 39. But no - this symphony is filled with some great writing and really does exceed your expectations. I would be inclined to agree most with the comments that compare this with Kraus, as Haydn himself praised the man, and we all know the success that was his c minor symphony, but I personally see more of Haydn as the template for this symphony. Maybe not the first movement, but the trio of the minuet has the folkish undertones of so many Haydn minuets, the Andante ma Allegretto has the graceful, aristocratic writing of a Haydn slow movement, complete with a certainly Haydn form of subversion - blaring of winds to change the tone of the piece from a stately to a humorous one. And the finale's theme to me also screams of Haydn, especially with the brief interjection of humor (the notes in the first and second violins before the entire orchestra's finish in a thick G major chord). Much like Beethoven's tips of the hat to the old master, this symphony must have been in a similar vein. I really enjoyed it.
I genuinely don't have any idea about it. The menuet is not in canon form Apparently "fresco" as a tempo marking / movement title was used only two times, and both by Rosetti: first is here, and second in his Partita in B flat, featuring a "Menuetto. Fresco ma Allegretto"... which makes me think that one of the two is a misprint ("fresco" must be either an adjective for Menuet *or* for Allegretto).
I mean, isn't "fresco" just "fresh"? I assume it's just a mood marking - "play this in a 'fresh' way" (though I imagine the connotations of "fresh" in English are slightly different to those of "fresco" in Italian)
Woah :) Reminds me a lot of Kraus’s symphonies! Very dramatic and rather exotic harmonic and textural choices
Agreed! Very much representative of the Sturm und Drang style- my favorite period of the Classical Era. :)
Sturm & Drang
Rossetti wrote tons of horn concertos and double horn concertos. It’s both not surprising and very welcome to see his use of a pair of off-key horns with Ebs, B naturals, A naturals, low Fs, and independence.
In his oeuvre it's not surprising, but considering his time, he is ahead of his time!
B in German means B flat in English, H in German means B natural in English
Grazie per questa condivisione! una bellissima scoperta!
A big thank you from Ukraine for the great music and support!
Particularly enjoy symphonies from the classical era from lesser known composers because there are so many gems, like this one. You can't really understand and appreciate the genius of Mozart and Haydn if don't know their contemporaries.
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Being a devoted enthusiast of Joseph Kraus' music, this sounds crazy similar to his symphonic writing style - the melodic structure, the harmonic patterns, and definitely the temperament!
I recall reading something that stated Kraus emulated, to an extent, contemporaries such as this composer. But he idolized Haydn
@@markusboyd4834 I would very much like to see that for myself if you come across it again!
@@oliversvensson1231 it was on his biographical Wikipedia page. It refers to his famous c minor symphony being partially modeled/inspired by an overture of Gluck’s. Furthermore his grand tour of Europe involved meeting established composers of his generation, such as Gluck and Haydn. I read elsewhere that his later symphonies exhibited a similar structure to that developed chiefly by Haydn. His c minor symphony was even dedicated to Haydn and this suggests he held his senior master in high regard as his model. Haydn much admired this work.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Martin_Kraus
The first minute or so in, I thought I was in for more of the same, a g minor Sturm und Drang symphony, that will sound the same as all the ones I've heard, in particular, Vanhal's (Bryan g1) or Haydn's no. 39. But no - this symphony is filled with some great writing and really does exceed your expectations. I would be inclined to agree most with the comments that compare this with Kraus, as Haydn himself praised the man, and we all know the success that was his c minor symphony, but I personally see more of Haydn as the template for this symphony. Maybe not the first movement, but the trio of the minuet has the folkish undertones of so many Haydn minuets, the Andante ma Allegretto has the graceful, aristocratic writing of a Haydn slow movement, complete with a certainly Haydn form of subversion - blaring of winds to change the tone of the piece from a stately to a humorous one. And the finale's theme to me also screams of Haydn, especially with the brief interjection of humor (the notes in the first and second violins before the entire orchestra's finish in a thick G major chord). Much like Beethoven's tips of the hat to the old master, this symphony must have been in a similar vein. I really enjoyed it.
Interesting horn parts!
In Rosetti's tijd was het niet mogelijk om de hoorns in g klein te laten spelen, daarom in B. geeft een beetje een dissonant effect.
What does it mean "menuetto fresco"? Does it means canonical?
I genuinely don't have any idea about it. The menuet is not in canon form
Apparently "fresco" as a tempo marking / movement title was used only two times, and both by Rosetti: first is here, and second in his Partita in B flat, featuring a "Menuetto. Fresco ma Allegretto"... which makes me think that one of the two is a misprint ("fresco" must be either an adjective for Menuet *or* for Allegretto).
I mean, isn't "fresco" just "fresh"? I assume it's just a mood marking - "play this in a 'fresh' way" (though I imagine the connotations of "fresh" in English are slightly different to those of "fresco" in Italian)
Sounds like mozart