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- The Kansas City Chiefs have appeared in 4 Super Bowls over 5 years, similar to the New England Patriots dynasty from 2014-18. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes, and Eric Mangini debate whether or not the Chiefs are the new dynasty compared to the Patriots. Plus, Tom Brady comments about Patrick Mahomes and how he compares to other all time NFL QBs.
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I'm so thankful for this show. I have been going through alot but I always look forward to this show more than any other show in the world. Brew nick and wildes are legends
Keep your head up brother, those who persevere are always rewarded 🙏🏾
This is a great show but it won’t save you find god my man . Stay up!
@@seano7660
The dude didn't ask to be saved, let him appreciate the show without you jumping in like a salesman.
Never watched so much punditry but these guys are great and funny
Facts on facts
Most that aren’t fans of the dynasty hates that dynasty. Always. It’s simple lol
Yeah, 31 out of 32 teams are always gonna be upset when one team is winning them all. Not rocket science
Same thing was happening with Kanye
@@Renegade-kf8fp what now? 😂.
Kanye was beloved and hailed as one of the great artists of his era. Then he lost his mind.
Always - add all the commercials day in and day out - plus all the Swift attention … it gets old pretty quick
Agreed. I’m a born and raised Chiefs fan, but it’s incredibly understandable how annoying the commercials and swiftie coverage are to everyone. It’s like a never-ending rubbing it in every other teams face that they aren’t the Chiefs.
03:17
Nick: belichick’s whole motif was he didn’t care about being liked!
Wildes: I like that.
Coach stays moving the goal posts even in what ifs, before, and after they happen 😂
Man you’re a Chiefs fan, please be quiet 🤫
More of a MAHOMES fan 😂😂
Brady is in a league of his own for now. Compare him to Montana that's okay
@@petervelez9361 True. I dont think some of these chiefs "fans" know how hard getting 7 rings is. Peyton had 2. Montana had 4. Brees had 1. Thats 7 total over 3 hof qb careers.
Let's table this premature GOAT debate between mahomes and brady until pat catches up a little to the guy with 7 rings.
Coach Mangini is basically Skip Bayless for the Chiefs
He’s so annoying for a guy that failed so badly at being an NFL head coach
he's so salty man lol
Wrong! Are you new to football?
Is this your first day?
Manginni has been the Chiefs biggest critic over the past 5 years.
He's never picked them for anything.
Been one of Mahomes biggest critic.
Do some research. 😂
Not really! Nick is annoying and Coach loves raining on his parade! Don't disrespect Mangini chump!!!!
@@tomasrojo2099hate with no logic! 🤔 Nobody takes this comment seriously! 💯
As a chiefs fan it really feels like we are the new patriots because people used to love us and now everyone hates me in comment sections.
naw you hate urself
Chiefs fans got annoying 😂 talk sht about everyone shts a joke now
I love it because they get so mad
Its because of nick lol
We just hate you 🥰
I'm pretty tired of the State Farm ads but imagine BB making Tom the MVB. I can't.
Nick roasting Mangini extemporaneously is awesome....
Nice word
I’m adding this to my vocabulary
When Nick said McDaniels flamed out with Denver, I thought "so did Mangini with the Jets" 😂
Ok big words
It was even funnier when Nick brought up Payton schooling Brady.. Mangini brushed it off real fast. As he didn't want to go there..
If the chiefs win the Super Bowl coach is still gonna find a way to say he’s not impressed
I though Mangini was going to have AT LEAST an arguable & logical rebuttal to his Pats comparison but WOW 😂😂😂
“Joe Burrow got a weird one” what a backhanded thing to say. As if Joe Burrow wasn’t the most poised, calm and collected QB we’ve seen play in Arrowhead since Brady
Joe is going to be a side character in Mahomes story
@@Renegade-kf8fp Maybe. Maybe not, we'll see about that. He's had two healthy seasons compared to Mahomes' six. There's still a lot of football to be played
Once
@@Deevon667 “once” in two healthy seasons. What, did you expect him to beat Mahomes in the playoffs three times in two years? That might be hard to do
@@airgasmYTgoing by that he will only be healthy 40% healthy for his career
None of it could happen without SPAGS.
I've never wanted the 49ers to win a football game so bad in my life lol
On god but they always start off slow
@@marquisehicks2677last time they started fast, they were celebrating their SB LIV victory at the start of the 4th Q before Mahomes stole their heart
The Chiefs commercials get old to Non-Chiefs fans, but I love the Chiefs, having watched them lose so many playoff games for decades, and now they are having a Brady moment and the haters come out of the woodwork, even the Taylor Swift haters are saying the NFL is rigged, get outta here with that. :D
Chiefs have always been heavily loved by many non-KC residents too! (Long before Mahomes & Kelce too!)
People (including me) didn’t hate the Pats cuz of the scandals. That was just an excuse to hate them. Hey, a lot of us rooted for the Pats against the Rams in Brady’s first SB. It wasn’t until the second half of their dynasty that the hate really started.
"The backlash to the backlash to the thing that's just begun..." A lyric written in 2020, probably not about the Chiefs. But it's totally about the Chiefs.
Mahomes is just that good they have a chance of winning any time he is at quarterback
its a team game not 1 man game
I'm a Chiefs fan and I'm not at all interested in the Brady/Mahomes future legacy comparison. It's looking too far ahead (which of course is on every show's discussion topics) and I just want to win the next game. Just like everyone was on fire to crown Tiger Woods beating Nicklaus' record, just let it play out and enjoy the games as they come. We're on to Cincinnati, so to speak. Kudos to anyone who understands what I just said.
Agree, legacy talk is so annoying. It's just a way to get people mad, arguing, to boost ratings. It's not really that interesting, they've just shoved it down our throats for so long...
They are a daily show. They need to fill the gaps especially since there are fewer games being played. Game's the game lol
@@dyoutube439 Valid point. But I think I'll sit out the legacy talks for a while. Different eras + team sport, and all that.
@@dyoutube439 I obviously realize that. Doesn't change my opinion, it will just modify my viewing regularity.
Respect brother
Should tell coach Mangini i loved his appearance on the sopranos!
I'm here to again remind everyone that Andy Reid was AGAIN not one of the five finalists for Coach of the Year.
He was named AP's Coach of the Year once. On that Eagles SB run. None with Mahomes.
Sounds a lot like Belichick with and without Brady. The whole ‘Brady made Belichick’. Chiefs even have the white boots look like the patriots have with the white socks/white cleats. It’s history repeating itself
@@brandondickie3456 and Mahomes made Reid
I love this show so much lol I’ve been going through some tough times and this show always brightens my day. Greatest sports show in TV history.
I hope you feel better.
Chiefs have had a top ten scoring defense 4/6 years, super underrated part of this team
they have had one
@@tylerfallis6293 19,20,21,23
Kevin with the dagger 🗡️ at the end with the Eric assist 🔥. No pom poms.
They’re going to win this year because their defense
It’s just so obvious. Like if Brady is gonna get dunked on for the Patriots defense being good, can they at least acknowledge that it’s chiefs defense being the main reason for these wins
They make they show so funny dawg I love watching they show 🤣🤣🤣
Nick, let Eric cook 😂. Love the commercials 🤣🤣❤️, Most Valuable Bundler.
I started supporting the Chiefs during the 2019 season when I started following the NFL more closely. Seeing all the ref comments and etc nowadays made me realise that they are truly the 2010s Pats now
How about those Chiefs!
Every time Mangini opens his mouth I’m reminded why he was a terrible head football coach
Brock Purdy you got this 😂
CHIEFS IS STILL THE CHIEFS
The spagnola thing was originally brought up by John middlekauf, who revealed it to colin cowherd who then enlightened nick😂
The fact that Nick has to pick a set of superbowls to talk about, SHOWS this conversation should just stop being had for a while
Nah….bc you’re assuming there will be a drought for KC like there was for the Patriots.
Difference is the Chiefs are better at drafting and are currently one of the youngest teams in the NFL going into their 4th SB in 5 years and Mahomes is still only 28.
@@jamesclark7630 lol kk
@@JasenMinusoh he came at you on business son.
@@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393 I don't care? Lol he's literally assuming the same as I am.
We have to SEE these things happen first. So he can predict all he wants!
@@Ark-oi3qy it's impossible to argue those points with some people which is why I didn't even try to. They just have to live thru it
I don’t like dynasties, but I want Pat Mahomes to pass Brady. I can’t have both, so I’ll just root for them
Coach is the epitome of “back in my day”
I've been a Pats fan since '93. It's basically like being royalty. I used to leave my Christmas tree up until February because I knew we would probably be in the Super Bowl every year. They will win games just by mentally terrifying teams, meaning teams will lose to them mentally before they even step on the field.
This show is so much better than the remnants of Undisputed or anything on ESPN anymore.
Not sure about the QBs being better from Brady’s era but the defenses he faced were certainly much better.
Rams greatest show on turf, Seahawks legion of boom, Giants suffocating blitz, etc. Also defenses were actually allowed to get physical with QBs unlike right now where they call targeting nonstop for very soft hits.
Best show
I love when they talk about spygate in front of the guy who exposed it 😂
They most definitely are and it's crazy too see like they said it's like Tom just handed off the Paton.
The smug look on coaches face after saying "second set of superbowls" made this segment for me lol
Coach is saying anything to take away from Mahomes’ greatness. We are living in these best era of QB play. It is commonly accepted that your team has NO CHANCE if you don’t have at least a good quarterback. In the past, you could win with an okay quarterback. This is ludicrous
It’s not ludicrous. None of these qbs except for mahomes is legit. The 80s had Montana, Marino , elway. All top 10 qbs of all time. They also had Randell Cunningham, Warren moon, Dan fouts. The 90s had Steve young, aikman, Favre, elway, Marino, Jim kelly,
You will NEVER see a QB like Dilfer win a SB ever again. Which clearly means this is a better era of football. @@jasonhill2348
I feel it might be opposite like Mahomes is the driving force at the beginning but maybe mid to late 30s Mahomes won’t be able to use his legs or extend plays so he will need a good defense than, where Brady got better and was elite until his 40s when he retired
Brady always had a good defense even in his 30-40s, he’ll he only won with the bucs cause that defense was crazy good.
@@andrewvlogs9371Me when i lie
I'm a Packers fan and I found myself watching a lot of Chiefs games these last several years because Patrick reminds me so much of Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. He is an exciting player, he has a rare talent and he is classy. I never bought into the early GOAT debates. I always thought they are contrived. As of late I really like Pacheco and I like Andy Reid, too. But I'm not particularly fond of Kelce, for example. Gonzalez was every bit as talented as him and Gronk was more dominant. I think the Chiefs will be the villians or at least the bad guys simply because they have been and will stay dominant.
First is the length of the from the first Super Bowl to last. In a row. Make it to the afc championship. In four years see if they still going strong
Does anyone actually look at the relative stats TB in his 2nd year in the league led the league in TD’s and he wasn’t throwing to tyreek hill and t kelce. He also won SB MVP 350 yards 3 TD.
If Mahomes wasnt there,guys like Allen,Lamar Burrow would probably have rings
definately
Disrespect and dislike the Chiefs, for the foreseeable future you will have to Deal with the Chiefs.
CJ Stroud may put up a good fight next year though, and that would be fantastic 🎉
Yes no doubt it
They need to win this one first
being a fan of an AFC team for the last 15 years has been miserable 😭
Brou bringing up the cheating scandals…THANK YOU! Jesus christ that gets glossed over so easily.
Because frankly the so called cheating didnt really bare on any outcome whatsoever because they just kept on winning. When you keep on winning after you are accused you get punished for it and you have a microscope on you after it whats the natural thing that happens. You get exposed. Well my friend that didnt happen so did they really get that much of an advantage or were they as good. Deflategate was a national embarrassment for even being considered a rule. What happened after it. Brady absolutely annihilated the league in retaliation on route to orchestrating the greatest comeback ever. Forced Goodell to have to hand him the Lombardi and shake his hand in the process after spending 10s of millions trying to crush him. The Patriots cheating scandals get glossed over because no matter what they were accused of or how much they were paid attention to they kept winning and often times played even better in retaliation.
So what we was still smacking teams after getting penalized
@@marquisehicks2677they were still recording teams. 😂🤣
NICK doesn't like Brady and MJ lmao
IMAGINE if Tom Brady Spent His Career With Andy Reid The Offensive Genius QB Guru?....Tom and Andy Would Have Like 10 to 12 SB Rings by Now and Toms Career Numbers Would be UNTOUCHABLE!!...Even Mahomes Fans Would Agree
Yep. Imagine he started his career with Reid, Kelce and Tyreek
The same Andyr Ried has didn't have ONE SINGLE passing touchdown ALL SEASON with the Chiefs? That Andy Reid? Lmao yall are clowns
@@MikkiChavezTF are you talking about bozo?
Lol, he went right to Jake Delhomme.
Stop it, how many calls have the Chiefs got that they shouldn't have . Stop the cap
Coach is right here
Brady getting it done before the rule changes, in a tougher era, will FOREVER give him the edge in this conversation.
Mangini nailed it.
Brady benefitted before the rule changes and the defense Brady played for is the reason for the rule changes.
The irony of calling the Chiefs, “the anti patriots” 😂
Isn’t the game on the11th?
Tough to compare. Brady didn’t have the weapons Mahomes had right out the gate. He also had a defensive head coach. Different philosophies. Mahomes volume will be a lot more to start careers for sure.
Mahomes has joined Brady and Montana in the ……don’t bet against……club.
Coach really is a gatekeeping sycophant for Brady
It’s crazy how much Nick and Coach agree on the Chiefs/Mahomes except their place in history, then they start yelling at each other 😂
Alright Wildes, don't get too carried away defending Belichick over Reid. You just got reinstated. 😏
If you ever been to both Boston and Kansas City, you’ll understood why there’s more disdain for the Pats
No there isn't. The Pats are far more likable, and Boston's got better fans than whatever team u support.
They play more games now nick jesus christ
7-2
That is the numbers of SB’s of each teams. Chill, reach to 7 and then we talk.
@@theweatherman6923 Yeah, it's possible, but assuming they can manage this level of success for his entire career is a stretch. People thought the same thing with the Patriots after they won three early in Brady's career. But the salary cap is undefeated, and a lot can go wrong. For one thing, Andy Reid won't make it until the end of Mahomes' career. Travis Kelce will be done in a year or two, and Mahomes relies on him significantly. Then, there is the problem with the cap and how that will become a barrier to building good teams over time. And that's assuming that Mahomes has no major injuries or other setbacks. So, while Mahomes is probably the only guy who could do it, it's much harder to achieve than people might think. I say it's far too early to talk about this stuff.
Ring counting, your only form of argumentation. Sad
Nick said Fowles as if the patriots won that game
*SNIFFFFFFFFFFFF* Aaahhh, I love the smell of Chiefs hate....I was initially annoyed with the Taylor Swift coverage, but the more it angers the Chiefs haters, the more I embrace it.....if the Chiefs hoist the Lombardi, I hope she's on the podium with Kelce and puts a big lipstick smack on the trophy. I was 18 months old when they won SB IV, and then NOTHING for 50 years....they made ONE AFC Championship game in those 50 years, so I'm lapping it all up while it lasts.
Broussard kept it 💯
You'd have to have been dropped on your head to think the rest of the NFL doesn't absolutely HATE the Chiefs.
Hey guys, not watching today's videos. Just letting you know to keep up the variety, don't get stale with always talking about the same thing.
Brady, Manning, Ben and Mahomes won 20 of the last 23 AFC Championship games
Burrows, Gannon and Flacco say hi.
My opinion from 2000 to 2017 there were alot better qb and defense teams then is has been in the past 6 years. League is more easier now.
2001 2003 and 2004 Patriots in my opinion is the greatest dynasty in American sports, you could argue the 90s Bulls or 90s Yankees come close. 2014 2016 and 2018 was a great dynasty, but the Patriots clearly were peaking and there was some drama between Kraft and Belichick.
Absolutely NO question the QBs of the previous era is better than this one. Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, and Rothlesburger are FAR superior to Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, and Burrow. It’s not even close.
NBA and NFL are in a decline, NBA is even worse.
Really not close
The QB comparison coach made is spot on lol mahomes is the only QB playing right now who can compare to brady, brees, manning in their primes. These other dudes are avg
Patriots won with defense??? Bruh Brady threw over 300 yards and 3 TD . The only year where Brady wasn’t a huge role and is mainly defense and run game was Brady’s very first starting year the first ring in 2001.
That's some amazing revisionist history right there.
Coach is right on the QB point but he used the wrong era. In the 2010's it was
Manning
Big Ben
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Russell Wilson
You cant find 5 guys outside of Mahomes rn who can equate to that lineup, and i didn't even include the late 2010 rise of Mahomes himself to make it fair, even though i could.
Um, Brady?
I would rather hear about my chiefs every day then discuss those Cowboys and Jets
Gotta stop letting Coach close segments 😮
I don't know anyone not a Chiefs fan that even remotely likes the Chiefs.
It’s jealousy. That’s where it stems from
@@slimischillin7753Tbf they are hard to like
@@TheBeggies95 not really, only if you’re a hater. If you’re a fan of sustained greatness, if you respect dynasties and winning the right way, if you appreciate the history of the AFL/AFC/NFL, then you’d at least admire this chiefs run. If you dislike them & it comes from your team losing to them, that’s all you gotta say. That’s more respectable than “durr, I don’t like them because of Mahomes family” or “durr, I don’t like them because they get calls (which is weak and incorrect btw)” or “durr, I don’t like them because they’re on commercials” or “durr, I don’t like them because Mahomes stupid voice/haircut”, etc
@slimischillin7753 probably some truth to that. I felt the same way about the Patriots.
@@crob18 it takes a grown man to admit that word is bond lol
Its frankly an indictment on the rest of the league that the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes have been this dominant. Its more being unprepared to go up against the Chiefs than it is the Chiefs are just that great in my opinion. The Patriots had actual rivals and I said it multiple times on twitter. The defenses that Brady went up against are far superior to any defense that Mahomes will ever go up against. Brady played before and after rule changes that protect the Quarterback and Receivers. Defensive players may have the benefit of having medical technological advances on their side and are evolved athletes. You had to be physical and mentally tough to play in the 2000s or you are getting absolutely annihilated. It was way harder to play Quarterback prior to 2009 than it is now.
Yup, rules changes have totally skewed this generation of QB numbers, season and career.
Defenses hands are tied when it comes to using physicality to control routes over middle and punish QBs in the pocket or running.
It's lìke they have never seen what QBs had to go thru before rules changes. How many SB would Montana have won if he didn't get tossed around like a rag doll by NYG?
How would Chiefs and Mahomes fair against Giants, 85 Bears, Ravens D in the 2000's?
Mahomes wouldn't be near the running threat if he had to deal with those Ds...else he'd miss some games and seasons.
Brady beat Mahomes twice in playoffs, and was solid in his 3 SB losses. If Purdy beats Mahomes and he goes 2-2 in SBs, he's still behind Montana and Manning.
Win or lose he’s ahead of Manning already.
Peyton is a 5x MVP, put up Mahomes numbers in a more physical era, and carried a worse Colts team to SB than any Reid Chiefs roster.
@@BoskoShabazz You can't put him ahead of Manning just like that..😅
@@mr.castle Peyton Manning was AMAZING, and arguably the greatest QB of the regular season of all time but I’m sorry we all saw him come up short way too many times in playoffs as the favorites and have some of the most baffling losses
@@BoskoShabazzno he choked always
This show has kept me going post skip Shannon divorce
They get all the calls so yeah, they are the new Patriots.
Weak
Mangini is right for once, after like the top 5-6 guys, the QB’s in those league are really bad. Like really bad.
It was the same way during both of the Patriots runs. In the AFC there were three or four top level guys and the quality kind of plunged after that. The real top tier guy Brady faced in his AFC Championships was Manning and he lost three of those.
Josh Allen would have demolished the NFL in the 2000s
I want the 9ers to win but if the Chiefs win I’ll be happy for Nick
Why can’t they surpass it
If nick can put only the first 5 seasons for the analysis. Why don’t he do the same for Brock? 2 seasons, 1 conf final and 1 Super Bowl…
To him credit. Obviously not for the goat conversation
Mangini had no idea what the topic was
Nick is discrediting the patriots beating jake Delhome in the super bowl when the chiefs two SB wins were against Jimmy G and Jalen Hurts… how did it go when they faced a good qb again?
Chiefs will actually be a better team next season.
wtf Tom Brady need 2 ovens for? 😂
His 2 personal chefs😂
Cause he cooked Mahomes twice
@@TheBeggies95 or bc Eli cooked him twice
@@TheBeggies95 he cooked chris jones and their defense twice lol
getting bored of the chiefs but not the patriots is wild to me. I literally quit watching football after Brady started running back getting into the title game every year and came back years later when he was closer to retiring.
I wonder since Brady did beat mahomes twice ,should be considered a factor.
Media wants to pretend it never happened.
Lol.. of course
Josh Allen and Joe Burrow are no Jake Delhome and Jared Geoff😅
Or Jimmy Garapolo 😂
Mahomes beat Josh Allen, Lamar, Garopollo and Hurts = Wow the GOAT
Brady beat peyton, big ben, rivers, brees, rodgers and MAHOMES himself = not the GOAT
Mahomes fan are some of the most restarted people ive seen on the internet. Talk when he is close to Brady. Give it time