As soon as we began working full-time we were expected to contribute to the family expenses. It was nowhere near the cost of rent and expenses if we were to move out, but it was enough to teach us we need to budget and understand the costs associated with being an adult. I took pride in being able to contribute and it also gave me a voice in house decisions. As an adult I think it's weird when I hear someone still let's their parents pick up their expenses... stand on your own feet, you're not a baby anymore.
Very good observations. I remember on of my university lecturers in Singapore (I'm an Aussie) telling me a humorous story about one of his Indonesian students. She was complaining about how hard it was to get a license there. "Here, it's soo hard. At home we go to da police station, pay money, and dats it".
Rent or board will depend on many things, the age of the kid, if they're still at school, if they have a job or if the parents are wealthy. The rates still need to be paid even if the home is owed outright. (No mortgage) it all depends.
This kind of attitude is the reason I never decorated my room. It always felt like living under "someone else's roof". I was never taught that my family home was my home too, it was always about who held the deed or who paid the money. I was taught that if I didn't comply with arbitrary diet and hygiene rules then I would be evicted and thrown to the streets like a spent cigar. It's a bad attitude and it ruins familes. Compare the divorce rate in Indonesia to Australia.
@@tinfoilhomer1535 I think what you’re saying is that you felt dehumanised. In a loving family environment money can be used as a tool for learning, not simply a means of subsistence.
RBT= If a person is on their open licence (they no longer have to stick P or L signs on the inside of their windscreen) then then they can drink roughly 1 standard drink and still pass an RBT. These rules can vary depending on the state.
Paying your share on a date means that men and women ENTER the date EQUALLY. It's an equality thing. If you're paying your own way, you're making your own choices. This was largely brought about by women, actually. Gone are bad old days where men could take you on a date, pay for a meal, then have expectations in return - a really STUPID situation for a girl to be in, really (yes, I know this is a subset of certain men). We women want equality. That goes both ways. Men shouldn't have to pay for a date, if BOTH people are in that date to see how they like each other, etc, etc. Equality also means that we take the good and the bad that comes with that, otherwise it's not equality, is it? As for paying rent, it's a responsibility thing. We start teaching our children and teenagers responsibility early. If you want stuff, you learn the responsibility of earning it. Paying rent at home is a teaching tool (usually, regardless of the wealth of the family). If adult children are earning a wage, they need to pay their way, and they need to learn that 'paying your way', contributing to your living expenses is important - even if you're not working full time. It's important for self-esteem too - you're supporting yourself. Most parents will support their children through school, high-school and university. But once full time education finishes, regardless of when that is, you're an adult. You need to learn the responsibility of paying your way through life, so for RESPONSIBLE parents (like most countries there are the exceptional minority), that financial support stops - from then on, most Australian parents might LEND you money, but not GIVE you money. And if you live at home, that means paying rent. That's the Australian way, and I think it's a good way. :-)) After all, you're raising children, but you're ALSO raising future responsible adults...one would hope.
The observations of the driving rules are interesting. I lived in Timor Leste for a while, and many of the same attitudes to the rules applied in TL - with one exception bike helmets. Like many SE Asian countries many Timorese have motor bikes. The rule is they must wear a bike helmet, and from what I saw virtually all Timorese wore them when on a bike, even as a passenger. However, when we crossed into West Timor (ie Indonesia) virtually no one wore helmets. It was striking.
Wow, great job. You really did well. It is really interesting that some of the things you reflect on as the norm in Indonesia were the norm here 40 or 50 years ago. For example the seat belt non usage and overcrowding cars was just the way things were in the early 70's and prior to that. Interestingly since those rules, and the speeding and drink driving focus, was brought in the population of Australia has doubled and road fatalities have halved. When I was a teenager no male would ever think of taking a girl out on a date and not paying for it. If you couldn't afford it you didn't go out. So these changes have significantly changed the norm in Australia, and so I wonder what will happen in Asian cultures across the next 50 years. BTW I do think that any waiter will more than happily take your photo if you ask . While taking photos is not nearly as common for sure the Aussie spirit would mean the wait staff will see it as just a friendly thing to do.
You can drink alcohol and drive as long as your blood alcohol is low enough. That's for the average male 2 beers in the first hour and 1 every hour after that, then you can still drive. (Woman about half that)
As an Aussie when I stayed in Jakarta I experienced the reverse of this, so I know what you say is true, also paying to use the loo, for parking on the street was really strange, but I loved the deep fried tofu with fermented veggies and chilli that you buy when sitting in traffic.
As an Indonesian, my friends were usually split the bill when they r on dates. So i think it's not common for a man to always pay. I think it's depend on your environment, your surrounding, your friends, where u grow up. We consider it as weird occasion if we find woman who like to not paid anything on date.
Alcohol is not luxury in Indonesia. Even high schooler can buy it. People here don't drink alcohol because consider it bad. So, no drunk driving problem in Indonesia. How many lives have lost around the world because of driving under influence of alcohol? In Vietnam, Thailand, Laos etc this is a very very big problem. Also in the US.
Hmm I was always brought up that you should pay for the first couple of dates as a man as a way to impress the woman, have always done this on first dates. But I agree after you have been dating for a while usually splitting the bill or taking turns is common. I think if a girl straight up said to me that they expect me to pay for everything though I would just be like nah fk that.
the issue is bro theres girls that will jump from date to date if ur dealing with a girl thats been on 10 dates n the last month with 10 difrent ppl it should send alarm bells this men pays for first date bs got us here where men are seen as a bank acount not a lover
it great content anyway for me to know when all my a paper work in indonesian good thing i have family which is pure australian who can teach me something or two but maybe i will hardly visit him at all want to start my adventure as soon as possible
unless ur nz a australian visa can be gotten by any country newzealand is the only country who dosnt need a visa for australia or tho with relationships on the sour note that could change
I'm not sure if it's a new generational thing because everyone has to be woke but everyone I know generally believe in the man paying on a date. It's how I was raised and I would be embarrassed to have my date pay for her way.
So in Indonesia it's not considered rude to sit at a restaurant using your phone instead of talking to your companions? Tell, you the truth, if I were in a restaurant with you and the only thing you cared about was the wi fi, I would certainly walk out and leave you to your phone. And after spending all evening on your phone, you expect your dates to pay fir your meal? Get real.
As soon as we began working full-time we were expected to contribute to the family expenses. It was nowhere near the cost of rent and expenses if we were to move out, but it was enough to teach us we need to budget and understand the costs associated with being an adult. I took pride in being able to contribute and it also gave me a voice in house decisions. As an adult I think it's weird when I hear someone still let's their parents pick up their expenses... stand on your own feet, you're not a baby anymore.
Very good observations. I remember on of my university lecturers in Singapore (I'm an Aussie) telling me a humorous story about one of his Indonesian students. She was complaining about how hard it was to get a license there. "Here, it's soo hard. At home we go to da police station, pay money, and dats it".
Rent or board will depend on many things, the age of the kid, if they're still at school, if they have a job or if the parents are wealthy. The rates still need to be paid even if the home is owed outright. (No mortgage) it all depends.
Australians are taught the meaning of hard work and self reliance. Tough love.
This kind of attitude is the reason I never decorated my room. It always felt like living under "someone else's roof". I was never taught that my family home was my home too, it was always about who held the deed or who paid the money. I was taught that if I didn't comply with arbitrary diet and hygiene rules then I would be evicted and thrown to the streets like a spent cigar. It's a bad attitude and it ruins familes. Compare the divorce rate in Indonesia to Australia.
@@tinfoilhomer1535 I think what you’re saying is that you felt dehumanised. In a loving family environment money can be used as a tool for learning, not simply a means of subsistence.
@@andycochrane4131 it sounds like she was a spoilt little brat just saying
Were, not anymore.
@@rowbearly6128 yeah probably. I’m noticing a rise in traditional values. Hopeful.
alot of australians that own bussinesses have there kids work for them my brother has his lil dude sweeping floors at building sites for pocket money
RBT= If a person is on their open licence (they no longer have to stick P or L signs on the inside of their windscreen) then then they can drink roughly 1 standard drink and still pass an RBT. These rules can vary depending on the state.
I was paying to my parents as a way of contributing to the family budget.
we call it board, it helps your parents out with expenses.
Paying your share on a date means that men and women ENTER the date EQUALLY. It's an equality thing. If you're paying your own way, you're making your own choices. This was largely brought about by women, actually. Gone are bad old days where men could take you on a date, pay for a meal, then have expectations in return - a really STUPID situation for a girl to be in, really (yes, I know this is a subset of certain men). We women want equality. That goes both ways. Men shouldn't have to pay for a date, if BOTH people are in that date to see how they like each other, etc, etc. Equality also means that we take the good and the bad that comes with that, otherwise it's not equality, is it?
As for paying rent, it's a responsibility thing. We start teaching our children and teenagers responsibility early. If you want stuff, you learn the responsibility of earning it. Paying rent at home is a teaching tool (usually, regardless of the wealth of the family). If adult children are earning a wage, they need to pay their way, and they need to learn that 'paying your way', contributing to your living expenses is important - even if you're not working full time. It's important for self-esteem too - you're supporting yourself. Most parents will support their children through school, high-school and university. But once full time education finishes, regardless of when that is, you're an adult. You need to learn the responsibility of paying your way through life, so for RESPONSIBLE parents (like most countries there are the exceptional minority), that financial support stops - from then on, most Australian parents might LEND you money, but not GIVE you money. And if you live at home, that means paying rent. That's the Australian way, and I think it's a good way. :-)) After all, you're raising children, but you're ALSO raising future responsible adults...one would hope.
great video, good to understand different views, thank you
The observations of the driving rules are interesting. I lived in Timor Leste for a while, and many of the same attitudes to the rules applied in TL - with one exception bike helmets. Like many SE Asian countries many Timorese have motor bikes. The rule is they must wear a bike helmet, and from what I saw virtually all Timorese wore them when on a bike, even as a passenger. However, when we crossed into West Timor (ie Indonesia) virtually no one wore helmets. It was striking.
Wow, great job. You really did well. It is really interesting that some of the things you reflect on as the norm in Indonesia were the norm here 40 or 50 years ago. For example the seat belt non usage and overcrowding cars was just the way things were in the early 70's and prior to that. Interestingly since those rules, and the speeding and drink driving focus, was brought in the population of Australia has doubled and road fatalities have halved. When I was a teenager no male would ever think of taking a girl out on a date and not paying for it. If you couldn't afford it you didn't go out. So these changes have significantly changed the norm in Australia, and so I wonder what will happen in Asian cultures across the next 50 years. BTW I do think that any waiter will more than happily take your photo if you ask . While taking photos is not nearly as common for sure the Aussie spirit would mean the wait staff will see it as just a friendly thing to do.
You can drink alcohol and drive as long as your blood alcohol is low enough. That's for the average male 2 beers in the first hour and 1 every hour after that, then you can still drive. (Woman about half that)
As an Aussie when I stayed in Jakarta I experienced the reverse of this, so I know what you say is true, also paying to use the loo, for parking on the street was really strange, but I loved the deep fried tofu with fermented veggies and chilli that you buy when sitting in traffic.
As an Indonesian, my friends were usually split the bill when they r on dates. So i think it's not common for a man to always pay. I think it's depend on your environment, your surrounding, your friends, where u grow up. We consider it as weird occasion if we find woman who like to not paid anything on date.
Alcohol is not luxury in Indonesia. Even high schooler can buy it. People here don't drink alcohol because consider it bad. So, no drunk driving problem in Indonesia. How many lives have lost around the world because of driving under influence of alcohol? In Vietnam, Thailand, Laos etc this is a very very big problem. Also in the US.
nah u guys just prefer to kill ur self by not wearing seatbelts or helmets
Haha this is so true, myself 5 years ago would drive a car to go to Alfamart in the neighbourhood 😂
I had to work around the house, as rent until I was 15, then got charged rent weekly. $40 a week, in 1985. I left home as soon as possible.
Hmm I was always brought up that you should pay for the first couple of dates as a man as a way to impress the woman, have always done this on first dates. But I agree after you have been dating for a while usually splitting the bill or taking turns is common. I think if a girl straight up said to me that they expect me to pay for everything though I would just be like nah fk that.
the issue is bro theres girls that will jump from date to date if ur dealing with a girl thats been on 10 dates n the last month with 10 difrent ppl it should send alarm bells this men pays for first date bs got us here where men are seen as a bank acount not a lover
I'm more than happy to pay, I think the offer to pay half is more important than actually doing it but no offer=no second date
Love this video!!!!
6:20
"Apparently, they can catch as fast as 300 kph."
"Challenge accepted."
Pretty sure they can catch faster than that, but can your car go that fast (I doubt mine could do 200)
A big difference is that safety is higher priority in Australia.
Women's liberation & equality is a 2 way street
with the male side blocked off
kak, klo aku udh ke aussie ayok ketemuan
it great content anyway for me to know when all my a paper work in indonesian good thing i have family which is pure australian who can teach me something or two but maybe i will hardly visit him at all want to start my adventure as soon as possible
Kangaroos remind me of deer here in USA all cute n stuff
Not so cute. A big male kangaroo can kill you.
You sure you aren't from here? Our accent grew on you pretty quick. 😆
Probably goes to school here
@@coashella
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If i have Indonesia residence permite card
Can i get australin visa?
unless ur nz a australian visa can be gotten by any country newzealand is the only country who dosnt need a visa for australia or tho with relationships on the sour note that could change
Kalo ga dikasi tau kakak org Indo, aku bakal ngira ini channel bule. Sumpah wkwkwk
thx, this is useful
I'm not sure if it's a new generational thing because everyone has to be woke but everyone I know generally believe in the man paying on a date. It's how I was raised and I would be embarrassed to have my date pay for her way.
So in Indonesia it's not considered rude to sit at a restaurant using your phone instead of talking to your companions? Tell, you the truth, if I were in a restaurant with you and the only thing you cared about was the wi fi, I would certainly walk out and leave you to your phone. And after spending all evening on your phone, you expect your dates to pay fir your meal? Get real.
I also agree that women need to pay for their own meal 👌
Agreeeeee 1000000000x
sangat membantu ❤️
Btw ada suara q yg so brizik wkwk
Lol.....nothing in the middle..
That's because you have no memory to refresh...
Di papua juga ada kangguru
You sound like you've been here a while, judging from your accent lol.
🤣 $3 wine 🤢 😂
goons awsome after u have drank the good stuff
First
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leave your hair alone