Hannebery was never the same player again after the easton wood slide. Hardly managed any consistent games since then and not nearly at the same impact as before
Sydney never had a chance in 2016 as it was the Western Bulldogs fairytale, just like West Coast were never going to be allowed to win in 2005 as it was the Sydney fairytale. Likewise for Richmond in 2017 - this is probably the most one-sided umpiring ever to be witnessed. Adelaide were screwed from the get-go.
2017 was the most disgusting. Adelaide are a long suffering club. Either team winning would have been a fairytale. To screw them was just disgusting vic-bias.
I remember making a rant about it in the lead up to the 2017 GF and how the umpires favoured the Bulldogs in 2016 and would do the same to the Crows. Whoever has the narrative is given the win. As a 23 year old Crows fan at the time I had never seen my club play in a grand final and I was so disgusted by the inevitable result that I didn't even bother watching the grand final. Screwing Sydney fair enough, they've had flags. Crows were on a 19 year GF drought at the time. Just disgusting to ignore their fairytale.
The biased umpiring did start early in 2016. Kieran Jack took a mark and was plowed into which was not paid 50 this was the first shot on goal for the game. Libertore also clearly threw the ball back into play which is lauded as on of the highlights of the game!
Notice that in both games, it's the interstate team that won the minor premiership going against one-sided umpiring, whilst playing against a Victorian team.
Interstate clubs generally don't fare well against Victorian teams with umpiring decisions at anytime. I think it would be good to see some formula like some point system for what a free kick is worth to your teams scoreline.
Nah that was Crows game to lose, they crushed teams all 2017. That hold on Jake Lever is when the momentum shift really started, can’t blame him for cracking to shits at half time when you’ve got to beat the tigers and the umpires.
As a Richmond supporter I can confirm we are defensive because we worked out asses off for 37 years and when we win one after all that people try and say it was rigged and I'm not saying they were fair I'm saying that we were sick of people saying it was rigged
Here after the Pies and GWS prelim. Been a firm believer for years in VIC bias and it's only going to get worse as time goes on. Umpires missing things is ridiculous in this day, and just so we're clear I'm not just about the amount of free kicks paid, but when and where they are paid. Umpires love pulling things out of their arse at seemingly random times, especially when momentum is there for the taking.
What a crock Collingwood lost to GWS in the 2019 in the Prelim by less than a goal under the same conditions, where GWS just played to hold the ball in for stoppage after stoppage for the last 5 minutes. And the year before they lost the grand final by less than a kick after a dubious free kick, but no one ever talks about that. This Vic bias BS is just that, BS. Since 2010, Interstate clubs have featured in 10 Grand Finals. They're not all that hard done by.
The Adelaide/Richmond final also had a clear 50m penalty against the golden child (Dusty) ignored when he clearly infringed over the mark when Walker had ball in hand about 75 from goal. Commentators even spoke about it. Anyone that thinks there's no agender in the VFL, oops, I mean AFL is kidding themselves.
agenda* also, the AFL has spent so much money in expanding the game. why would they sabotage interstate interest in the game by manipulating it in favour of victorians? grow the fuck up and stop being a such a crybaby. lol
actually looking at the video i find you're really scraping the barrel most of these calls. 2017 half of the things you highlighted you exaggerated significantly. one of many examples: Dusty "slung him to the ground" when in reality nobody even fell over and youre allowed to pull people out of your way if theyre shepherding you.
Umpires can never get 100% of call correct just like players aren’t perfect either but there definitely were some obvious shockers that should’ve been easily paid especially for grand final umpires
Wood did not slide. He went low, turned his body, and won the ball. Perfectly executed. There are so many lies and embellishments about that game. Scores were even with ten minutes to go and only one team had the ticker to go the distance.
Nothing beats the sheed/Maynard 2018 granny moment, In my 45 years of following footy I have never seen a worse decision in a GF, And no I’m not a Collingwood fan , I’m a one 👁️ Carlton supporter
Crows fan here. I remember being so utterly disgusted, furious and disappointed with the Crows' performance on that very important Saturday that I actually never noticed how much Richmond were being helped (or should I say, propped). Until I saw your video. Thank you.
It’s funny how blatantly Richmond players were holding the Crows, and why would you do it in a gf when you know you’d get penalised? It’s almost like they knew something before the game
Some of them are stretch in the Swans v Dogs game as well, Stringer made contact with the ball and Biggs htb decision aren't holding the ball due to no prior. There are more in the Crows v Tigers game that you didn't mention, mainly with Alex France. I am a Crows supporter and actually think Atkins got delisted because of this.
@@Kaleen_YT i wouldn't call them a "stretch", but a lot of the missed calls in 2017 have been pretty standard fare in the last decade or so of footy. yeah it sucks to see but it happens literally every week in the home and away season
Firstly, great effort you can see you put allot into the vid, I personally don't think half of these are as controversial as you might think but that's just my opinion. the Josh Caddy one at 7:13 is definitely unrealistic considering neither caddy nor his opponent got near the ball. keep up the good work.
2016 - Dogs 20, Syd 8. 2017 - Rich 24, Adel 19. I always thought 2016 was the worst so looked it up. I know frees not paid have alot to do with it too but remember watching 2016 and feeling sorry for the swans.
crows would have won. (ps this game happened when i was 7 and it was my birthday and im a crows supporter and i still hate richmond with a passion since)
As a dogs supporter winnings winning! The salt after that game was insane 7th to making a grand final is incredible for any team. You’ve also got to remember umpire decisions don’t shape a game. For example dogs outweighed west coast in free kicks in round 23 this year and lost because they played like crap! Show up and you’ll win it’s simple
So you’re pointing out all the “contentious” calls against the interstate teams… how about all those contentious ones against the Victorian teams? Can’t just go over one side’s free kicks that were awarded or missed with a fine tooth comb and not the other
its very clear to see that the bulldogs GOT the contentious calls given whereas sydney did not. 20-8 free kick count is attocious considering you look at thus video and see how many were missed for the swans. sydney didnt get a single free kick in the 2nd and 3rd quarter and this video doesnt even include when swans were gaining momentum and bulldogs got a wrongful free kick + 50m penalty nearing halftime. like glad bulldogs broke their drought but holy crap the level if denial of bulldogs supporters that their 2016 win was unjust is amazing. not saying swans wouldve won at all but you have some serious learning of the game if you think the umpiring was fair, considering the afl themselves released an apology for the umpiring as well 😂
you could go through every single game ever played and pull out 15-20 50/50 calls either way of each team. obviously some are in favour of some teams more than other but i think it’s a bit of a stretch
the rampe holding the man and hannebry knee contact isnt a 50/50 call though. thought the creator showed calle that were 100% there but just didnt get paid on the day, which is why swans fans were so pissed off.
Have you viewed the full analysis of the 2016 grand final? I think it resulted in the grand final being -4 to Sydney. If you think that decided the game you’re bonkers. Hannerbury incident - initial contact was thigh, not below the knee.
Next time the Crows make the grand final it will be against St Kilda and the umpires will make sure they win. I am never going to see my club win a premiership. As a 30 year old crows fan I've given up. Can't beat vic bias.
Richmond only had 5 more free kicks against Adelaide's in the 2017 Grand Final. The fact is, umpiring didnt play a factor in Adelaide losing that day. We never turned up on the day and if we did. We switched off in the 2nd quarter
Not really about richmond getting free kicks, its about crows not getting theirs, had they gotten their free kicks they could’ve had up to 10 free kicks or more or less against richmond (based on obvious calls) which is more then enough for goal chance to win. Not to mention that even if it doesn’t impact the game, the fact that the umpires failed to keep consistency between two teams, really makes it hurt more when losing. There is no way to defend the missed calls by umpires on this grand final.
what!!?!?! omg grimes held onto eddie for a split second and let go as he knew it wouldve been a hold if he stayed on for any longer? holy jack touched talia, free kick. the tex free, his teammate ran past with the ball taking a few steps taking clear advantage as we even see this paid as advantage in current day footy> crom had no AdVaNtAgE WtF. > GG
2016 and 2017 were horrible but the Tigers were dominant and did deserve to win. BullUmps friggin stole that premiership and still steal games in their BullUmpy ways.
I was going for the bulldogs in that 2016 GF, but that umpiring was atrocious, almost as if the umps were going for them and arguably cost Sydney in pivotal moments, same goes with the 2017 GF, but it cost us momentum swings, though I still think Richmond probably would’ve won anyways, just by a lesser margin, they overpowered us in the 2nd half.
Why I don't watch AFL any more. It's clear there's a fairytale team the AFL wants to win it, and you can set your watch to the bad umpiring making an appearance, along with the tribunal magically finding in their favour too. More like WWE than footy.
Haha bulldogs still deserved to win that game tho and you could argue either way with ball getting tapped out before holding the ball, only bad thing was the contact below the knees rule which wasn’t enforced at the time and they were stricter the year after
@@WestCoastEaglesFan1111but a significant number of those non frees or frees against either prevented goals or resulted in goals for Richmond, they game was a lot closer than the margin of 48 points suggests, probably more like a 20 point game.
And umpires wonder why there is so much dissent! The most disappointing part of it all is that the AFL do not care in the slightest! It seems that they are biased against teams other than the Melbourne based teams time and again. And, it still continues! Try to give me a counter example and prove my claim to be incorrect. Even the commentators are baffled by many decisions that are made. Yes, umpires make mistakes like we all do but, they are highly paid athletes and now that there are 4 central umpires they should have improved the standard. But, the standard remains poor!
They are Grand Finals and the umps "put their whistles away"...I support The Swans and yes, there were some howlers BUT more than half of the ones that have been highlighted in both games were "play on!".
AFL Umpiring is an extremely high pressure job I think this video is uncalled for! Sometimes they can run up to 15km a game when I bet you couldn’t run a lap of a footy oval
As a Richmond supporter for my whole life, I get some frees shown in the video could be seen as the wrong decision, but compared to the 2016 grand final, frees that were wrong supposedly against Adelaide were not massive momentum killers. Dusty broke it wide open, not umpire decisions.
@pcorf Actually yeah 100% for sure. I just meant in the context on the video Dusty blew it wide open, but 100% believe it should have been Houli that day with Dusty a close second.
Maybe the ump called no advantage at 6:16 because there wasn’t any??? Lambert was clearly on his tail which is completely legal for him to do. This one seem like a bit of a drag 😭
I do think some umps have players in their sight to NOT pay any frees to (Ahem Toby Green Ginnivan) and some are a 'Protected species' (Ahem Selwood. Ahem Buddy)..
I'm pretty sure the sliding in rule was introduced after the 2016 grand final just because of what the bulldogs were doing but I'm not completely sure, great video
Lindsay Thomas of North broke Gary Rohan's leg badly by diving crazily at his ankles to injure him, then worrying about where the ball was. This caused the new rule.
sorry but the frees they shower in the 2016 grand final arent 50/50, especially when they were paying them exclusively to the doggies wnd not the swans
I’m sorry, this video is a lot of hogwash. All three field umpires would have to be in league with each other to ensure favouritism. There are always mistakes, even howlers. But that’s just human error.
It’s hilarious how you pick an agenda and run with it. Choosing to overlook all the contentious decisions going the other way. The Bulldogs did have majority of the free kicks but bringing up umpiring decisions in a game won by 48 points is idiotic. Richmond were dead last in the competition for free kick differential in every single one of the premiership years. Do your research. Got no idea champ.
Yeah but the free kicks he brought up where shown when the game was in the balance at a crucial stage like betts in the square in the 2nd quarter before the game took a momentum swing.
@@ballgoat6930and i could rewatch the game, slow it down and show poor decisions that got adelaide out to the early lead they had… what’s your point. the game was umpired perfectly fine.
Get off whatever you're on. Richmond won fair and square. Adelaide were doomed from the moment they did the death stance. Not one Adelaide indiscretion according to you.
Hannebery was never the same player again after the easton wood slide. Hardly managed any consistent games since then and not nearly at the same impact as before
Sydney never had a chance in 2016 as it was the Western Bulldogs fairytale, just like West Coast were never going to be allowed to win in 2005 as it was the Sydney fairytale. Likewise for Richmond in 2017 - this is probably the most one-sided umpiring ever to be witnessed. Adelaide were screwed from the get-go.
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2017 was the most disgusting. Adelaide are a long suffering club. Either team winning would have been a fairytale. To screw them was just disgusting vic-bias.
I remember making a rant about it in the lead up to the 2017 GF and how the umpires favoured the Bulldogs in 2016 and would do the same to the Crows. Whoever has the narrative is given the win. As a 23 year old Crows fan at the time I had never seen my club play in a grand final and I was so disgusted by the inevitable result that I didn't even bother watching the grand final. Screwing Sydney fair enough, they've had flags. Crows were on a 19 year GF drought at the time. Just disgusting to ignore their fairytale.
The biased umpiring did start early in 2016. Kieran Jack took a mark and was plowed into which was not paid 50 this was the first shot on goal for the game. Libertore also clearly threw the ball back into play which is lauded as on of the highlights of the game!
even as a neutral, 2016 turned me off the sport for a while. it was fairly obvious who the AFL wanted to win.
as a crows fan im so happy to see this video
Glad to see you finally found some reassurance after Richmond broke your club for 5 years
@jto541 uh oh what happened to hardwick? Down you go another 30/40 years of being irrelevant 😂😂🎉
Yeah nice one mate you only lost by 8 goals and you still think the umpires lost you that game!🧠🧠🧠
We never turned up that day, straight to the point
@@patrickmilner4149 that day had me like 🫣😂😂
Notice that in both games, it's the interstate team that won the minor premiership going against one-sided umpiring, whilst playing against a Victorian team.
Interstate clubs generally don't fare well against Victorian teams with umpiring decisions at anytime. I think it would be good to see some formula like some point system for what a free kick is worth to your teams scoreline.
But they do get an unbelievably good run at home during the season.
Yeah umps have always been biased to Vic teams, I doubt it will change any time soon
@@nathrogers7rightly so?? melbourne teams have to travel interstate 4 times a year whereas interstate are constantly travelling
Why are so many Richmond supporters so defensive about the 2017 GF? 😂😂
I know, I think Richmond still would have won, the game just would have been a lot closer.
Nah that was Crows game to lose, they crushed teams all 2017. That hold on Jake Lever is when the momentum shift really started, can’t blame him for cracking to shits at half time when you’ve got to beat the tigers and the umpires.
As a Richmond supporter I can confirm we are defensive because we worked out asses off for 37 years and when we win one after all that people try and say it was rigged and I'm not saying they were fair I'm saying that we were sick of people saying it was rigged
I’m guessing your a grows fan
@@CharlieOBrien-wl5ph I am yes, we played like ass, the umpiring was shit and Pyke was a toxic coach.... nothing went right
bulldogs were handed kicks all year in 2016, they were number 1 free kick team in comp leading into the final. some genuine some very very dubious.
It still goes on now
@@strefion...... they were NOT given frees all year and it doesn't still happen!
Bulldogs were nursed through their game in the West knocking off the Eagles, that was an absolute disgrace.
You're welcome to have an opinion ..... just as everyone is ...... including me! Opinions are NOT facts though and aren't always based on knowledge!
Here after the Pies and GWS prelim. Been a firm believer for years in VIC bias and it's only going to get worse as time goes on. Umpires missing things is ridiculous in this day, and just so we're clear I'm not just about the amount of free kicks paid, but when and where they are paid. Umpires love pulling things out of their arse at seemingly random times, especially when momentum is there for the taking.
What a crock Collingwood lost to GWS in the 2019 in the Prelim by less than a goal under the same conditions, where GWS just played to hold the ball in for stoppage after stoppage for the last 5 minutes. And the year before they lost the grand final by less than a kick after a dubious free kick, but no one ever talks about that. This Vic bias BS is just that, BS.
Since 2010, Interstate clubs have featured in 10 Grand Finals. They're not all that hard done by.
2016 was the most rigged game in afl history, as a swans fan i will never go for the bulldogs in any game again
This is amazing content, makes me happy all over again
The Adelaide/Richmond final also had a clear 50m penalty against the golden child (Dusty) ignored when he clearly infringed over the mark when Walker had ball in hand about 75 from goal. Commentators even spoke about it. Anyone that thinks there's no agender in the VFL, oops, I mean AFL is kidding themselves.
agenda*
also, the AFL has spent so much money in expanding the game. why would they sabotage interstate interest in the game by manipulating it in favour of victorians?
grow the fuck up and stop being a such a crybaby. lol
Time to leave the McLaren Vale champion, you’ve had too much to drink
the jake stringer "unrealistic attempt" is one of my only gripes about this video, given he clearly touches the ball with his left hand
actually looking at the video i find you're really scraping the barrel most of these calls. 2017 half of the things you highlighted you exaggerated significantly. one of many examples: Dusty "slung him to the ground" when in reality nobody even fell over and youre allowed to pull people out of your way if theyre shepherding you.
The 2016 Grand Final was so rigged, it was clear the AFL wanted the bulldogs to win the Grand Final!!!!
Dogs were screwed in 2016 by umps, idk how they managed to win it
@@dylanneylon3996that has to be a joke comment? Dogs were plus 36 frees in the finals alone
@@dylanneylon3996dogs were favoured throughout the year and then got carried by umps in finals
I’m bulldogs supporter
People gotta realise how hard umpiring actually is, it is hard to gauge how many free kicks each team has
Why does it matter? Umpires should only be calling whats there, not giving even uppers so its 'fair'
Umpires can never get 100% of call correct just like players aren’t perfect either but there definitely were some obvious shockers that should’ve been easily paid especially for grand final umpires
Wood did not slide. He went low, turned his body, and won the ball. Perfectly executed. There are so many lies and embellishments about that game. Scores were even with ten minutes to go and only one team had the ticker to go the distance.
*_the 2022 qf was the worst umpired game despite how good it was. too many htb calls missed and geelong also getting dodgy frees._*
Nothing beats the sheed/Maynard 2018 granny moment,
In my 45 years of following footy I have never seen a worse decision in a GF,
And no I’m not a Collingwood fan ,
I’m a one 👁️ Carlton supporter
Crows fan here. I remember being so utterly disgusted, furious and disappointed with the Crows' performance on that very important Saturday that I actually never noticed how much Richmond were being helped (or should I say, propped). Until I saw your video. Thank you.
I was at the game, richmond weren't helped the umps were bad for both teams
@@TheKingDreamerLB richmond fan??
You got smashed 😂 it wouldn’t of mattered
R u saying the umpires helped Richmond win by 48 points hahahaha bullshit Richmond just played better!!!
Umps were terrible for both teams. This video just highlights one side of it for some reason.@@josephsmith4725
It’s funny how blatantly Richmond players were holding the Crows, and why would you do it in a gf when you know you’d get penalised? It’s almost like they knew something before the game
Time to take that tinfoil hat off pal
@@Dunbie_ rather wear a tin foil hat than a blindfold
@@blickyspiderman seems that the crows disagree with you considering how lost they all looked in the GF
FYI at 0:43, that's Clay Smith, not Matt Suckling. But great video anyway!
Umpire bashers are the most boring people you could ever have the misfortune of being stuck with.
2016 Grand Final. Fair enough, but half of those 2017 ones are a bit of a stretch
you’re a clown, literally all of them were there
Which ones would you say were a stretch?
Interesting. I think it's the other way around 😂😂
Some of them are stretch in the Swans v Dogs game as well, Stringer made contact with the ball and Biggs htb decision aren't holding the ball due to no prior.
There are more in the Crows v Tigers game that you didn't mention, mainly with Alex France.
I am a Crows supporter and actually think Atkins got delisted because of this.
@@Kaleen_YT i wouldn't call them a "stretch", but a lot of the missed calls in 2017 have been pretty standard fare in the last decade or so of footy. yeah it sucks to see but it happens literally every week in the home and away season
More great content. Thank you 🙏
Firstly, great effort you can see you put allot into the vid, I personally don't think half of these are as controversial as you might think but that's just my opinion. the Josh Caddy one at 7:13 is definitely unrealistic considering neither caddy nor his opponent got near the ball.
keep up the good work.
Thankyou!
2016 - Dogs 20, Syd 8. 2017 - Rich 24, Adel 19. I always thought 2016 was the worst so looked it up. I know frees not paid have alot to do with it too but remember watching 2016 and feeling sorry for the swans.
2016 was almost blatant. Absolutely awful umpiring.
As a doggies supporter honestly the game was umpired so poorly. Personally don’t think it would have changed the result tho
crows would have won. (ps this game happened when i was 7 and it was my birthday and im a crows supporter and i still hate richmond with a passion since)
Crazy! You mean to tell me that AFL umpires bet on the games they officiate?! Why ... I never!
As a dogs supporter winnings winning! The salt after that game was insane 7th to making a grand final is incredible for any team. You’ve also got to remember umpire decisions don’t shape a game. For example dogs outweighed west coast in free kicks in round 23 this year and lost because they played like crap! Show up and you’ll win it’s simple
if your happy to win thatbway kudos to you, but if your on the other end of it im sure youd have an issue 😂
Very random request but would you do how good was series and rate them out of 10.
🏈🏈🏈 One thing I always remember about the 2016 Grand Final is that the Swans only got 8 free kicks for the entire game.
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I know, very disappointing
0 frees in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, plus a few cheap ones in the last 10 mine of the last quarter. truly got done dirty
Mate, can make a case for half of those “free kicks to Adelaide” not being paid. But those frees wont turn around a 48 point lead mate
So you’re pointing out all the “contentious” calls against the interstate teams… how about all those contentious ones against the Victorian teams? Can’t just go over one side’s free kicks that were awarded or missed with a fine tooth comb and not the other
Examples?
*_2018_*
its very clear to see that the bulldogs GOT the contentious calls given whereas sydney did not. 20-8 free kick count is attocious considering you look at thus video and see how many were missed for the swans. sydney didnt get a single free kick in the 2nd and 3rd quarter and this video doesnt even include when swans were gaining momentum and bulldogs got a wrongful free kick + 50m penalty nearing halftime. like glad bulldogs broke their drought but holy crap the level if denial of bulldogs supporters that their 2016 win was unjust is amazing. not saying swans wouldve won at all but you have some serious learning of the game if you think the umpiring was fair, considering the afl themselves released an apology for the umpiring as well 😂
at 5:30 thats the clearest block he made it impossible for rance to go up
For the creator to call this a hands in the back decision is also wrong. It wasn't called as that.
you could go through every single game ever played and pull out 15-20 50/50 calls either way of each team. obviously some are in favour of some teams more than other but i think it’s a bit of a stretch
Good point, maybe I could have showed a few unfair frees that went Adelaide's way.
I cant recall any so could is a stretch@@Kaleen_YT
Was there any possibility that Port play Geelong at Kardinia Park and got the benefit of the frees 31 to 19 ?....zero
the rampe holding the man and hannebry knee contact isnt a 50/50 call though. thought the creator showed calle that were 100% there but just didnt get paid on the day, which is why swans fans were so pissed off.
Have you viewed the full analysis of the 2016 grand final? I think it resulted in the grand final being -4 to Sydney. If you think that decided the game you’re bonkers.
Hannerbury incident - initial contact was thigh, not below the knee.
I thought the 2017 was worse then the 2016! Both seem’d rigged honestly.
i think they're both pretty similar
Next time the Crows make the grand final it will be against St Kilda and the umpires will make sure they win. I am never going to see my club win a premiership. As a 30 year old crows fan I've given up. Can't beat vic bias.
Also another poorly umpired grand final was 2020 geelong vs richmond where everything was being paid the way of the tigers
2016...unfair, 2017 unfair.... oh 2018.... skip... nothing to see here.😏😏😏
Part 2?
Richmond only had 5 more free kicks against Adelaide's in the 2017 Grand Final. The fact is, umpiring didnt play a factor in Adelaide losing that day. We never turned up on the day and if we did. We switched off in the 2nd quarter
Not really about richmond getting free kicks, its about crows not getting theirs, had they gotten their free kicks they could’ve had up to 10 free kicks or more or less against richmond (based on obvious calls) which is more then enough for goal chance to win. Not to mention that even if it doesn’t impact the game, the fact that the umpires failed to keep consistency between two teams, really makes it hurt more when losing. There is no way to defend the missed calls by umpires on this grand final.
They needed to be mentally tougher , they let the umpiring get to them
what!!?!?! omg grimes held onto eddie for a split second and let go as he knew it wouldve been a hold if he stayed on for any longer? holy jack touched talia, free kick. the tex free, his teammate ran past with the ball taking a few steps taking clear advantage as we even see this paid as advantage in current day footy> crom had no AdVaNtAgE WtF. > GG
i feel like this guy is jsut hating on teams he doesn't like, there was some reasonable calls there
I like the Bulldogs and don't mind Richmond
hating on teams how exactly? by pointing out poor umpiring decisions? the umpires arent a team last i checked.
2016 and 2017 were horrible but the Tigers were dominant and did deserve to win. BullUmps friggin stole that premiership and still steal games in their BullUmpy ways.
2016 was ridiculous absolute robbery
yeah dodgy, the umps get the call from AFL owners, who aren't the clubs but global corporations and their creditors.
someone who finally sees the
2016 gf
Ikr
keep crying cucko
You can’t just put your leg on there head and say that he was pushed out of it
Hillarious that you think Adelaide might have been a chance.
free kick Richmond. It won’t have made much of a difference in the result but anyone can see it’s Victorian bias in the AFL
I was going for the bulldogs in that 2016 GF, but that umpiring was atrocious, almost as if the umps were going for them and arguably cost Sydney in pivotal moments, same goes with the 2017 GF, but it cost us momentum swings, though I still think Richmond probably would’ve won anyways, just by a lesser margin, they overpowered us in the 2nd half.
Totally agree.
would they have had the momentum? Adelaide would have put them away by half time.
Victorian clubs get all the free kicks unfortunatly.
Why I don't watch AFL any more. It's clear there's a fairytale team the AFL wants to win it, and you can set your watch to the bad umpiring making an appearance, along with the tribunal magically finding in their favour too. More like WWE than footy.
Definitely a very fair analysis
That 2017 final was hot bullshit I remember going ballistic at the TV watching that dogshit display
it wasnt even close, keep coping
@@Lawnnoahjesus I didn’t say crows deserved to win bucko
The salt from Sydney fans that think the 2016 umpiring was favoured is hilarious!
If I were one of the screwed sides I’d go up to the umpire after the game and tell them to get fucked some officiating is so blatantly awful
I'm NOT going to go off or swear but the Western Bulldogs were NOT given the 2016 Grandfinal!!! This narrator is obviously a Sydney supporter!
the fact you have to defend it that hard shows your already in denial claire. your in la la land if you think you won that fairly xx
Haha bulldogs still deserved to win that game tho and you could argue either way with ball getting tapped out before holding the ball, only bad thing was the contact below the knees rule which wasn’t enforced at the time and they were stricter the year after
Matt Suckling didn't play in the 2016 grand final
agree with you here 2017 was something else but you cant blame the umps for the crows poor performance
true.
You try playing a game of footy while the umps are against you the whole day… you just give up because there is no point.
@@J0RD4N391🤣🤣🤣 clown shit.
@@J0RD4N391 40 point loss you cant blame the umps
@@WestCoastEaglesFan1111but a significant number of those non frees or frees against either prevented goals or resulted in goals for Richmond, they game was a lot closer than the margin of 48 points suggests, probably more like a 20 point game.
Good call on 2017
2016 was terrible
None of you are qualified umpires here and are just salty your team lost
And umpires wonder why there is so much dissent! The most disappointing part of it all is that the AFL do not care in the slightest! It seems that they are biased against teams other than the Melbourne based teams time and again. And, it still continues! Try to give me a counter example and prove my claim to be incorrect. Even the commentators are baffled by many decisions that are made. Yes, umpires make mistakes like we all do but, they are highly paid athletes and now that there are 4 central umpires they should have improved the standard. But, the standard remains poor!
Matt Suckling didn't play in the 2016 grand final. He was injured and missed out. And Ben McGlynn was number 21. That is Tom Papley, not Ben McGlynn
2016 was the most frustrating game of all time
They are Grand Finals and the umps "put their whistles away"...I support The Swans and yes, there were some howlers BUT more than half of the ones that have been highlighted in both games were "play on!".
2016 was the worst officiated grand final
I'll never forgive the AFL for that Adelaide/Richmond game. It was a disgrace.
AFL Umpiring is an extremely high pressure job I think this video is uncalled for! Sometimes they can run up to 15km a game when I bet you couldn’t run a lap of a footy oval
Joking about the last bit just trying to get a reaction 😂😂😂
Haha thought so but wasn’t sure
@@Kaleen_YT love your channel bro keep up the good work
Are you a Sydney fan
yes
Maynard was blocked
im kinda 50/50 on it
As a Richmond supporter for my whole life, I get some frees shown in the video could be seen as the wrong decision, but compared to the 2016 grand final, frees that were wrong supposedly against Adelaide were not massive momentum killers. Dusty broke it wide open, not umpire decisions.
Dusty certainly did in 2019, 2020. But Bachar Houli should have won the NS medal in 2017.
@pcorf Actually yeah 100% for sure. I just meant in the context on the video Dusty blew it wide open, but 100% believe it should have been Houli that day with Dusty a close second.
@@pcorf Not a chance. Dusty got the contested possessions where it counted.
Maybe the ump called no advantage at 6:16 because there wasn’t any??? Lambert was clearly on his tail which is completely legal for him to do. This one seem like a bit of a drag 😭
Yes, admittedly maybe a bit of a drag by me
After calling advantage on a call where there was none earlier in the game? It’s less about if it’s the right call and more about the inconsistency
then the crouch advantage shouldnt have been given
Bruh that’s clay smith not Matt suckling, good vid thi
thanks, yeah I know that now after some other comments told me
Great Vid! Earned a sub
Appreciate it
Nice feature for Hutchy at 5:00 😂 One of our most experienced umpires in Bendigo.
I do think some umps have players in their sight to NOT pay any frees to (Ahem Toby Green Ginnivan) and some are a 'Protected species' (Ahem Selwood. Ahem Buddy)..
Is it just me or do Crows seem to get the worst of the umpiring??
I think last week proved that
Umpires couldn’t make a team lose the game by 48 points even if they tried
suckling didnt play in the 2016 grand final
Clay Smith, my bad
I am a Richmond fan 2017 LOL CROWS DERZERED TO LOSE TIGER CLAN NEEDED WINS!! but gg crows but y’all got sweeped
Matt suckling didn’t play in the 2016 GF
I'm pretty sure the sliding in rule was introduced after the 2016 grand final just because of what the bulldogs were doing but I'm not completely sure, great video
i believe so, and thankyou
Lindsay Thomas of North broke Gary Rohan's leg badly by diving crazily at his ankles to injure him, then worrying about where the ball was. This caused the new rule.
@@mightyricho8526 thanks mate forgot about that but this game really made them enforce the rule
slide was introduced 2013, after gary rohan broke his leg in 2012
75% of these incidences are 50/50 at best, could go either way.
sorry but the frees they shower in the 2016 grand final arent 50/50, especially when they were paying them exclusively to the doggies wnd not the swans
I’m sorry, this video is a lot of hogwash. All three field umpires would have to be in league with each other to ensure favouritism. There are always mistakes, even howlers. But that’s just human error.
Now go and do the free kicks missed for Sydney and the Tigers. Then you might have a fair comparison.
This guy is definitely a crows supporter.
no i'm not
@@Kaleen_YT Yes you are
It’s hilarious how you pick an agenda and run with it. Choosing to overlook all the contentious decisions going the other way. The Bulldogs did have majority of the free kicks but bringing up umpiring decisions in a game won by 48 points is idiotic. Richmond were dead last in the competition for free kick differential in every single one of the premiership years. Do your research. Got no idea champ.
Yeah but the free kicks he brought up where shown when the game was in the balance at a crucial stage like betts in the square in the 2nd quarter before the game took a momentum swing.
Exactly.
Classic Richmond fan
@@ballgoat6930and i could rewatch the game, slow it down and show poor decisions that got adelaide out to the early lead they had… what’s your point. the game was umpired perfectly fine.
Mate it’s the vfl and it will always be the vfl..
🏈🏈🏈 Cool video. ✅
13 02 2024
Thankyou 👍
Well done great video
thankyou, are you flyingworm?
How many games have you umpired?
Get off whatever you're on. Richmond won fair and square. Adelaide were doomed from the moment they did the death stance. Not one Adelaide indiscretion according to you.
How about after the Crows getting stiffed we do a video on the worst single umpire decisions that cost clubs a W
Great Idea