Something they have put in older subtitles but not in newer versions, when the Doctor is praying to show faith driving the creatures away, he's actually saying the names of his companions. "Susan, Barbara, Ian...".
The Curse of Fenric is McCoy’s masterpiece for me. It’s such a great script and the location work is fantastic. It’s definitely in my top ten stories of the Classic era. A fun fact is that Judson and Millington were meant to be lovers, and Millington ended up causing Judson’s injury after getting jealous of his relationship with another schoolboy. It’s a pity it wasn’t more explicit in the final story, but it’s nice to see some representation in the 1980s.
Classic Doctor Who stories were often effectively a team effort although one writer is credited. It was script editor Andrew Cartmel who was guiding storylines these last 2 seasons, so the tying of the different threads together would be his work
The Doctor does indeed notice the chess set in Silver Nemesis. He either comments on the position that the game is in, or plays a move in the game, or both - I can't quite remember which... but there is a seemingly (then) throwaway moment featuring it.
Probably my absolute favourite Classic story, this one. So deliciously atmospheric, so wonderfully dark and arch and thematically rich. Expertly directed, WONDERFULLY scored and brilliantly performed. That Doctor Who was cancelled after airing a story THIS good is next to criminal.
When my Dad showed me this as a 7 year old i shat myself and was so scared lol. Fact check Victoria died January 22nd 1901 not 1910, thats when her son Edward died.
_The British contribution to the Manhattan Project was significant, and they played a crucial role in the development of the atomic bomb. The British government and scientists were aware of the potential of nuclear fission and began their own research in 1941, even before the United States. The British project was known as “Tube Alloys.”_ _In 1942, the British and American governments signed the Quebec Agreement, which established a joint effort to develop the atomic bomb. The British contributed scientists, resources, and expertise to the project, including the famous physicist James Chadwick, who led the British Mission to the Los Alamos Laboratory_ The USA stole the completed project going back on the agreement to share the results, and the UK had to recreate it all again.
I understood the story about King Cnut, who was a Dane, although the term 'Dane' then covered people from southern Norway as well as what we now know as Denmark, to actually be that Cnut was making a point to his courtiers about their silliness in flattering him by saying how he was so majestic even the waves would obey him. The moral is the same though
Curse of Fenric has been one of my favourite DW stories for a very long time. It's 100 minutes of near Lovecraftian horror with eerie music, disgustingly great monsters, a twisted Elder God and Viking curses, all wrapped in a deliciously atmospheric WW2 setting with good side characters (Wainwright, Judson, Millington, etc), all wrapping up Ace's background story in one fell swoop before the season finale. That episode 3 cliffhanger is spine-chilling, and the music when Wainwright confronts the haemovores for the first time has always stuck in my mind. I'll always remember 7th crushing Ace's faith to win the day.
You mentioned artificial rain. No, it was just unpredictable British weather making continuity a nightmare for the production team, so much so that they added a line about Fenric messing with the weather.
I absolutely love this story. Such a great one, great Monsters with the vampiric Haemovore’s and the Ancient One, and Ace in this story is brilliant and the reveal at the end is so heartbreaking. I also really love the concept of Faith they use against the Haemovores in the story too. But next week is the end but the moment has been prepared for… btw thanks for uploading this on my birthday!!
One of my all time favourites.. glad you both enjoyed it! As I said before this is all part of script editor Andrew Cartmel's plan. As others have said the inention was that it would be revealed that rhe Doctor was planning to have Ace train up as a Timelord. Also we get more hints to The Doctor's background and more demonstration of his manipulating events. Next episode is the end of Classic. Will be interested to see your reaction.
You are spot on with Ghost Light. Never understand the comments. Relatively simple if very surreal and unusual and rather brilliantly spooky and atmospheric.
This is definitely one of my favorite story's from Classic Doctor Who. Great plot, great villian and a nicely written end to the mystery behind Ace being flung into the future in Dragonfire. I especially love the story because its production values are great from an era where there wasn't much backing from the BBC.
you may notice that Sorin is carrying some stakes-there was originally a scene of him staking the Haemovores but they were forced to excise it before transmission🔪
The two girls who were turned into vampires were London evacuees who had been placed with the moralistic spinster who lived alone. I think that most of the McCoy era was dreadful, but this season showed strong signs of recovery which obviously couldn't fully materialise in the end. I think there are only three shining moments from the McCoy era: Remembrance, Ghostlight episode 1, and Fenric.
They had a lot of new writers. They would get together and discuss what they wanted to do. You could get threads between stories. The show also got braver with the types of stories and themes they would explore. I feel the current series of Who really leans into the McCoy era and how it did Doctor Who. In a positive way.
Canute/Knut (the Great) was a Danish King of England from 1016-1035. The story about the sea is about others belief/flattery of his greatness that he could turn the tides - so he proved the flatterers to be false...
King Cnut is from the 11th century, only a few decades before the Normans showed up. So about 500-600 years after the original arrival by the Anglo-Saxons, and about 200 years after Alfred the Great. You've got your timelines all messed up there, Richard. Watched this story for the first time lately. Pretty good, and I enjoy Survival too. So while I think the 6th and 7th Doctor have more misses than hits, it's nice to know that they went out on a high.
@@MuchWhittering: Oddly enough, I get the first presidents (Washington through Van Buren), then mess up 9 through 14, then get Buchanan to the present in perfect order. But then I’ve lived through fourteen of them… ~Dad😬
So the original plan for ace was to leave in series 27 where the doctor reveals he's been training her to become a time lord. Her final episode would have been her goimg to the gallifrey academy
Why would the extremely elitist Time lords accept a non-Galifrayan as a Time lord? Where did this ridiculous idea come from and when. The Doctor was frowned on as a time lord why would they accept an alien he presented as one of their own, they're extremely insular and isolationary.
@@daveofyorkshire301 "time lord" isn't a race, though. ordinary gallifreyans can't regenerate either, or at least that appears to be the consensus. regeneration is something bestowed upon someone when they become a time lord, and i see no reason why a human would be unable to do that. it's unorthodox, but not impossible, imo. i still don't like the idea for other reasons though, mainly because i just don't think ace would agree to it. i don't think she'd be interested in that life, and i think she'd be incredibly hurt that this had been the doctor's motivation for showing her the universe this whole time. just my 2 cents.
@@resiseven7407 Time Lord is both an aristocratic rank and a subcategory of race. It's been used as such often in the originals and in the reboot he's referred to himself as of the Time Lord race. So why do you assert otherwise? Are you asserting Galifryans don't have two hearts, so they're biologically different. Where does that come from. Historically exposure to the chasm as a child tested their suitability to advance in status. Where do you get the idea that "ordinary" Galifryans don't regenerate? What's "ordinary"?
Great story Curse of Fenric. It reminds me of the film The Fog in certain ways. You don’t really have to react to new Who when there’s far better British TV Shows from the past like our original TV science fiction drama serial Quatermass and excellent shows like The Prisoner and Blake’s 7.
So, we do go over like favorite Doctor at the end of Survival but we haven't done a standalone video for anything. I don't know if we'll do anything else but I would like to do a Best of Classic Who Reactions. I just need a list of moments to put in it!
Season 26 is usually put on par with season 25 on the fandom, if not rated slightly higher (although I prefer season 25). So it's not too unusual to prefer this season.
You mentioned the fake rain in sunshine (they used a hose btw) and some slightly confusing editing, well there is a special edition version that uses colour timing and other digital corrections to improve that, it also does wonders with the sound and adds a few CGI elements to augment the original VFX, it’s well worth checking out.
There is some brilliant writing and excellent continuity at work here by writer Ian Briggs and Script Editor Andrew Cartmel. Contrast this to the previous script editor's era when Colin Baker asked for clarification on the plot of Trial of a Time Lord : Mindwarp, "Is the Doctor working with Sil and being horrible to Peri because his brain has been temporarily altered by the Mentor's machine? Or is he pretending to side with Sil because it's part of some plan? Or is the Matrix lying and none of this happened at all?" To which Eric Saward replied, "I don't know." This was originally supposed to be the season opener and Ace telling Kathleen about the creepy old house in Perivale was supposed to be setting up Ghost Light. As aired, it feels like she's reflecting back on the events of that story instead of foreshadowing them. There is no artificial rain while the sun is shining. The weather during shooting was batshit crazy and changed rapidly back and forth between bright sunshine, rain and even snow. The mud Ace slips and falls in as they flee the bunker before it explodes is real mud, made by mother nature. Mrs Hardacre isn't the mother of the two girls. They've been evacuated from London because of the blitz and billeted with her. The term wolves is used for descendants of the original Vikings because Fenric/Fenris was a wolf-god/monster in Viking mythology. The flask is important because Fenric's mind or soul or whatever is trapped inside it like a genie in a bottle. Technically, Fenric is trapped in another dimension, but the flask must be used, along with the "magic words' recorded in the Viking runes to release him. The flask doesn't look oriental because it probably isn't, there's no telling how long it was bopping around from place to place before the Vikings got hold of it in the East. Sylvester McCoy's young sons played Haemovores in this story, but their scenes were cut. There is a particularly excellent extended version of this story available and his son's scenes are included there. They didn't know the show was going to be cancelled and were pretty well advanced in their plans for Season 27. Ace was going to be written out halfway through the season, when the Doctor enrolled her in the Academy on Gallifrey, as part of a scheme to shake up the stodgy Time Lord society. His new companion was going to be a safecracker. I'm not aware of there being a large group of people who dislike this season. It's always seemed very well liked to me. I personally consider this season to be the peak of Sylvester's era. It's also important to point out that the series was not cancelled due to low ratings, but due to pressure for the BBC to farm out more of their programs to independent production companies and make fewer shows "in house" to keep costs down. BBC Controller Jonathan Powell felt this would be a good move for Doctor Who as an independent production company would presumably be prepared to spend more money on it. (A situation not unlike what's happening to the series right now, with the new Russell Davie's episodes.) It wasn't really the intention for the show to go into production limbo for most of the next fifteen years, that just sort of happened.
The night of November 9th, after the third episode of "the curse of Fenric" -the Berlin Wall was opened, by the Easy German government (press confer, announce) -and this story dealing with Soviets during WW2,....relevant to real world events, like a Polish and a Czech soldier in UNIT during "Battlefield",....yet, when this series of WHO was filmed earlier in 1989, they wouldn't have the foresight. ....unless, time influence was involved.
I do care about this season, and most of the fandom does too, I believe. The season fandom hates is Season 24. For me, season 26 is the best season of Doctor Who ever. But that's just me.
This is my fav story from the McCoy era, just about pipping ‘Remembrance of the Daleks’ to the post. Very atmospheric and excellently scripted - definitely one of the best stories of the 80s. This entire season is great. Shame it pretty much ended for years.
This episode leans heavily on the WW2 code breakers and by coincidence I've been to see their old HQ in Bletchley Park just this very day. With regards to the chess set in Silver Nemesis the Doctor briefly moves some of the pieces around seemingly at random. Most people miss it on first viewing. With regards to the Ancient One it was more of an example of him being the product of a closed time loop, by killing himself and Fenric in the sealed room he broke the loop and ensured his specific post apocalyptic future would never exist. I love The Curse of Fenric largely because of Ace's storyline, the idea of faith as a power and I really wish Fenric would return in some form.
You really should consider doing " dimensions in time " , the official 30th Anniversary featuring many original actors . I won't lie, it is not good, but is an experience every Who fan should have : :D. It's also relatively short.
When the Doctor “summons the choir”, you can see him list his companions’ names, confirming where the Doctor’s true faith is. Remember, the last three episodes of An Unearthly Child, were about the politics of a Stone Age tribe - politics has been part of Doctor Who from the beginning. Just to confirm, Queen Victoria died in 1901 (a few months after Australia became a federated nation). The content of Seasons 25 & 26 was pretty darn good, but that’s a discussion for the next story...
Considering what happened in Rogue, the canonization of the alternate ninth Shalka Doctor, coupled with the image of the third Doctor they used is from Dimensions in Time. Doesn't this mean you have to do those two stories at least? It could be argued also that it was the Doctor from Curse of the Fatal Death, of which Richard E Grant was also the Doctor in. So just in case you will have to cover that story too. There is also 'Death Comes to Time' webisodes which came out just before 'Scream of the Shalka'. There are several Doctor Who spin offs, that aren't audios, which came out in the years in between. I think for the full experience of there being a 'Wilderness Years' it should include some of these as they were Doctor Who for us in the years we waited eg P.R.O.B.E, Auton, Auton 2: Sentinel and Auton 3: Awakening, Shakedown: Return of the Sontarans, , Dæmos Rising, Mindgame and Mindgame Trilogy. They are all video productions, most of these are still for sale, and or floating around online.
Doubtful. It's easier to just watch the official televised stuff. I don't think we'll do the minisodes within Modern Who either (aside from maybe Born Again).
@@7thHourFilms I think there's also been animated missing Doctor Who serials that have come out since you passed that point in the show. They were televised on BBC America and I think perhaps BBC 4.
Season 26 is better than Season 25, with the exception of Battlefield which is an over-lit, on-the-nose children's TV morality tale. I'm very glad you both liked Ghost Light - I was all ready to be angry with you and you totally disarmed me. Grrr. 😉
How is an unplugged radio disabled? Plug it back in again and it's fine. To disable something you have to make it non-functional. Turning it off or unplugging it is not non-functional! It's just off.
i would earnestly recommend reading a couple of the wilderness years books sometime, solely because some of them are just genuinely super solid reads even when totally divorced from doctor who as a series. anything by lawrence miles is near-guarenteed to be a banger. really not something you need to do for the channel, though.
Books are probably more likely than anything else. I'd be curious about the novel version of "Damaged Goods" because I thought the audio drama version wasn't the right medium for the story.
The Dial of Destiny was terrible that Phoebe Waller-Bridge was insufferable Indiana Jones was sidelined and was treated less like the masculine hero he use to be atleast "The Kingdom of Crystal Skull" was redeemably watchable and had more adventure and "The Temple of Doom" was chessy but it was good chessy.
Dr Who has always been political and provided commentary on what has been going on in society. It happened very noticeably in the Pertwee era under Barry Letts. A number of stories are allegories on what was going on at the time - pollution, scientific hubris, EU membership, union disputes, but it was always part-and-parcel of a well-written story and not the main focus. The problem with the McCoy era is that it is done far more blatantly, to the point where each story comes across like a kids TV show, complete with a moralistic lesson for the viewer. That's not to say that the stories are all bad. Fenric is a superb story but one can't get rid of the overriding smell that one is being lectured to. Tragically, this is the point of departure for modern Who. The message comes first and the plot is secondary. The modern showrunners have no understanding of what made Who great. It's simply a vehicle to shock, upset, revise and push an agenda. They've destroyed the series but they don't care because it's all about them.
FFS it's story not episode. An episode is a single broadcast t.v. programme not the x number of programmes that go to make up a story. Not everything has to happen on screen for it to have happened - get over it!
You need to realize there are more important things to life than the difference between "story" and "episode". It is ironic that you tell me to get over something about the show that doesn't really matter when you have become absolutely infuriated by something that doesn't further either of our lives. They're just sounds. Calm down.
@@7thHourFilms I think I'm old enough to go to bed when I want and to also block any more of your videos showing up in my suggestions. Goodbye and good riddance.
Something they have put in older subtitles but not in newer versions, when the Doctor is praying to show faith driving the creatures away, he's actually saying the names of his companions. "Susan, Barbara, Ian...".
So you liked our Ancient one did you ? Lol it’s one of my favourite creations/stories too. Happy days.
The Curse of Fenric is McCoy’s masterpiece for me. It’s such a great script and the location work is fantastic. It’s definitely in my top ten stories of the Classic era. A fun fact is that Judson and Millington were meant to be lovers, and Millington ended up causing Judson’s injury after getting jealous of his relationship with another schoolboy. It’s a pity it wasn’t more explicit in the final story, but it’s nice to see some representation in the 1980s.
Classic Doctor Who stories were often effectively a team effort although one writer is credited. It was script editor Andrew Cartmel who was guiding storylines these last 2 seasons, so the tying of the different threads together would be his work
An awesome story and the way the 2 girls turn into vampiric creatures is awesome in billions of ways.
The Doctor does indeed notice the chess set in Silver Nemesis. He either comments on the position that the game is in, or plays a move in the game, or both - I can't quite remember which... but there is a seemingly (then) throwaway moment featuring it.
Probably my absolute favourite Classic story, this one. So deliciously atmospheric, so wonderfully dark and arch and thematically rich. Expertly directed, WONDERFULLY scored and brilliantly performed.
That Doctor Who was cancelled after airing a story THIS good is next to criminal.
When my Dad showed me this as a 7 year old i shat myself and was so scared lol.
Fact check Victoria died January 22nd 1901 not 1910, thats when her son Edward died.
Judson is inspired by Alan Turing.
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_The British contribution to the Manhattan Project was significant, and they played a crucial role in the development of the atomic bomb. The British government and scientists were aware of the potential of nuclear fission and began their own research in 1941, even before the United States. The British project was known as “Tube Alloys.”_
_In 1942, the British and American governments signed the Quebec Agreement, which established a joint effort to develop the atomic bomb. The British contributed scientists, resources, and expertise to the project, including the famous physicist James Chadwick, who led the British Mission to the Los Alamos Laboratory_
The USA stole the completed project going back on the agreement to share the results, and the UK had to recreate it all again.
typical DC.
You were right first time Alex it was "Pyramids of Mars" with Sutekh.
I understood the story about King Cnut, who was a Dane, although the term 'Dane' then covered people from southern Norway as well as what we now know as Denmark, to actually be that Cnut was making a point to his courtiers about their silliness in flattering him by saying how he was so majestic even the waves would obey him. The moral is the same though
Correct. The modern scholarly consensus is that Cnut was demonstrating his human limitations to the courtiers.
Yes, Richard really screwed that story up!
Curse of Fenric has been one of my favourite DW stories for a very long time. It's 100 minutes of near Lovecraftian horror with eerie music, disgustingly great monsters, a twisted Elder God and Viking curses, all wrapped in a deliciously atmospheric WW2 setting with good side characters (Wainwright, Judson, Millington, etc), all wrapping up Ace's background story in one fell swoop before the season finale. That episode 3 cliffhanger is spine-chilling, and the music when Wainwright confronts the haemovores for the first time has always stuck in my mind. I'll always remember 7th crushing Ace's faith to win the day.
You mentioned artificial rain. No, it was just unpredictable British weather making continuity a nightmare for the production team, so much so that they added a line about Fenric messing with the weather.
This is my favourite 7th Dr story.
Classic Who Playlist should be on School and University Syllabuses because Richard gives massive history info dumps on the historical stories 😁
I absolutely love this story. Such a great one, great Monsters with the vampiric Haemovore’s and the Ancient One, and Ace in this story is brilliant and the reveal at the end is so heartbreaking. I also really love the concept of Faith they use against the Haemovores in the story too. But next week is the end but the moment has been prepared for… btw thanks for uploading this on my birthday!!
The hair loss is probably genetic, but it may possibly be due to the fact that you could never seem to stop brushing it.
One of my all time favourites.. glad you both enjoyed it!
As I said before this is all part of script editor Andrew Cartmel's plan. As others have said the inention was that it would be revealed that rhe Doctor was planning to have Ace train up as a Timelord.
Also we get more hints to The Doctor's background and more demonstration of his manipulating events.
Next episode is the end of Classic. Will be interested to see your reaction.
You are spot on with Ghost Light. Never understand the comments. Relatively simple if very surreal and unusual and rather brilliantly spooky and atmospheric.
Ghost light is 1883. Fenric is 1940-something. Visitation and Black orchid are 1666 and 1925
This is definitely one of my favorite story's from Classic Doctor Who. Great plot, great villian and a nicely written end to the mystery behind Ace being flung into the future in Dragonfire. I especially love the story because its production values are great from an era where there wasn't much backing from the BBC.
The good ol' Cartmel Master Plan.
you may notice that Sorin is carrying some stakes-there was originally a scene of him staking the Haemovores but they were forced to excise it before transmission🔪
Soo creepy, scared me on first airing as a kid.
The two girls who were turned into vampires were London evacuees who had been placed with the moralistic spinster who lived alone.
I think that most of the McCoy era was dreadful, but this season showed strong signs of recovery which obviously couldn't fully materialise in the end. I think there are only three shining moments from the McCoy era: Remembrance, Ghostlight episode 1, and Fenric.
The older lady (Judson's assistant/carer) is played by the same woman who played Mrs Finnegan (another haemovore) in Smith and Jones.
I'd forgotten about the existence of The Dial of Destiny. I liked it as well
They had a lot of new writers. They would get together and discuss what they wanted to do. You could get threads between stories. The show also got braver with the types of stories and themes they would explore. I feel the current series of Who really leans into the McCoy era and how it did Doctor Who. In a positive way.
Canute/Knut (the Great) was a Danish King of England from 1016-1035. The story about the sea is about others belief/flattery of his greatness that he could turn the tides - so he proved the flatterers to be false...
King Cnut is from the 11th century, only a few decades before the Normans showed up. So about 500-600 years after the original arrival by the Anglo-Saxons, and about 200 years after Alfred the Great. You've got your timelines all messed up there, Richard.
Watched this story for the first time lately. Pretty good, and I enjoy Survival too. So while I think the 6th and 7th Doctor have more misses than hits, it's nice to know that they went out on a high.
MW: It’s been about 12 years since I last taught World History, so my timelines are, shall we say, a bit wibbly-wobbly… ~Dad
In fairness, I would be just as bad with US Presidents, and that's a much shorter span of history. @richardlemin7840
@@MuchWhittering: Oddly enough, I get the first presidents (Washington through Van Buren), then mess up 9 through 14, then get Buchanan to the present in perfect order. But then I’ve lived through fourteen of them… ~Dad😬
So the original plan for ace was to leave in series 27 where the doctor reveals he's been training her to become a time lord. Her final episode would have been her goimg to the gallifrey academy
Why would the extremely elitist Time lords accept a non-Galifrayan as a Time lord?
Where did this ridiculous idea come from and when.
The Doctor was frowned on as a time lord why would they accept an alien he presented as one of their own, they're extremely insular and isolationary.
@daveofyorkshire301 the doctor was president guess he could use that sway
@@alexthehunted It's a bit difficult becoming something your not. You can't identify as time lord, they've got two hearts and regenerate.
@@daveofyorkshire301 "time lord" isn't a race, though. ordinary gallifreyans can't regenerate either, or at least that appears to be the consensus. regeneration is something bestowed upon someone when they become a time lord, and i see no reason why a human would be unable to do that. it's unorthodox, but not impossible, imo.
i still don't like the idea for other reasons though, mainly because i just don't think ace would agree to it. i don't think she'd be interested in that life, and i think she'd be incredibly hurt that this had been the doctor's motivation for showing her the universe this whole time. just my 2 cents.
@@resiseven7407 Time Lord is both an aristocratic rank and a subcategory of race. It's been used as such often in the originals and in the reboot he's referred to himself as of the Time Lord race.
So why do you assert otherwise?
Are you asserting Galifryans don't have two hearts, so they're biologically different. Where does that come from.
Historically exposure to the chasm as a child tested their suitability to advance in status. Where do you get the idea that "ordinary" Galifryans don't regenerate? What's "ordinary"?
Great story Curse of Fenric. It reminds me of the film The Fog in certain ways. You don’t really have to react to new Who when there’s far better British TV Shows from the past like our original TV science fiction drama serial Quatermass and excellent shows like The Prisoner and Blake’s 7.
Are you guys planning to do a Classic Who wrap up video? I'd love to see you both rank the Doctors so far and have a Top 10 Classic episodes.
So, we do go over like favorite Doctor at the end of Survival but we haven't done a standalone video for anything. I don't know if we'll do anything else but I would like to do a Best of Classic Who Reactions. I just need a list of moments to put in it!
Season 26 is usually put on par with season 25 on the fandom, if not rated slightly higher (although I prefer season 25). So it's not too unusual to prefer this season.
How does the camera always know where the Tardis is going to materialize?
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I think this and mark of the fendahl are my favorites from this season.
You mentioned the fake rain in sunshine (they used a hose btw) and some slightly confusing editing, well there is a special edition version that uses colour timing and other digital corrections to improve that, it also does wonders with the sound and adds a few CGI elements to augment the original VFX, it’s well worth checking out.
There is some brilliant writing and excellent continuity at work here by writer Ian Briggs and Script Editor Andrew Cartmel. Contrast this to the previous script editor's era when Colin Baker asked for clarification on the plot of Trial of a Time Lord : Mindwarp, "Is the Doctor working with Sil and being horrible to Peri because his brain has been temporarily altered by the Mentor's machine? Or is he pretending to side with Sil because it's part of some plan? Or is the Matrix lying and none of this happened at all?" To which Eric Saward replied, "I don't know."
This was originally supposed to be the season opener and Ace telling Kathleen about the creepy old house in Perivale was supposed to be setting up Ghost Light. As aired, it feels like she's reflecting back on the events of that story instead of foreshadowing them.
There is no artificial rain while the sun is shining. The weather during shooting was batshit crazy and changed rapidly back and forth between bright sunshine, rain and even snow. The mud Ace slips and falls in as they flee the bunker before it explodes is real mud, made by mother nature.
Mrs Hardacre isn't the mother of the two girls. They've been evacuated from London because of the blitz and billeted with her.
The term wolves is used for descendants of the original Vikings because Fenric/Fenris was a wolf-god/monster in Viking mythology.
The flask is important because Fenric's mind or soul or whatever is trapped inside it like a genie in a bottle. Technically, Fenric is trapped in another dimension, but the flask must be used, along with the "magic words' recorded in the Viking runes to release him.
The flask doesn't look oriental because it probably isn't, there's no telling how long it was bopping around from place to place before the Vikings got hold of it in the East.
Sylvester McCoy's young sons played Haemovores in this story, but their scenes were cut. There is a particularly excellent extended version of this story available and his son's scenes are included there.
They didn't know the show was going to be cancelled and were pretty well advanced in their plans for Season 27. Ace was going to be written out halfway through the season, when the Doctor enrolled her in the Academy on Gallifrey, as part of a scheme to shake up the stodgy Time Lord society. His new companion was going to be a safecracker.
I'm not aware of there being a large group of people who dislike this season. It's always seemed very well liked to me. I personally consider this season to be the peak of Sylvester's era. It's also important to point out that the series was not cancelled due to low ratings, but due to pressure for the BBC to farm out more of their programs to independent production companies and make fewer shows "in house" to keep costs down. BBC Controller Jonathan Powell felt this would be a good move for Doctor Who as an independent production company would presumably be prepared to spend more money on it. (A situation not unlike what's happening to the series right now, with the new Russell Davie's episodes.) It wasn't really the intention for the show to go into production limbo for most of the next fifteen years, that just sort of happened.
The night of November 9th, after the third episode of "the curse of Fenric" -the Berlin Wall was opened, by the Easy German government (press confer, announce) -and this story dealing with Soviets during WW2,....relevant to real world events, like a Polish and a Czech soldier in UNIT during "Battlefield",....yet, when this series of WHO was filmed earlier in 1989, they wouldn't have the foresight. ....unless, time influence was involved.
Next week it's the end 100% completed classic who
The Movie.
@@flaggerify That's more of the "bridge" between classic and nuwho than it is classic.
@@joshuajoshua2732 McCoy is in it.
@@flaggerify They've also already watched the Movie before
@@BulbasaurRepresent I know.
I do care about this season, and most of the fandom does too, I believe. The season fandom hates is Season 24.
For me, season 26 is the best season of Doctor Who ever. But that's just me.
This is my fav story from the McCoy era, just about pipping ‘Remembrance of the Daleks’ to the post. Very atmospheric and excellently scripted - definitely one of the best stories of the 80s. This entire season is great. Shame it pretty much ended for years.
Remembrance of the Daleks
Silver Nemesis
This episode leans heavily on the WW2 code breakers and by coincidence I've been to see their old HQ in Bletchley Park just this very day. With regards to the chess set in Silver Nemesis the Doctor briefly moves some of the pieces around seemingly at random. Most people miss it on first viewing. With regards to the Ancient One it was more of an example of him being the product of a closed time loop, by killing himself and Fenric in the sealed room he broke the loop and ensured his specific post apocalyptic future would never exist.
I love The Curse of Fenric largely because of Ace's storyline, the idea of faith as a power and I really wish Fenric would return in some form.
Vampires, are one example of Haemovores. So are mosquitos.
The Wolves of Fenric, is a Bloodline, not actual wolves. 😂😂😂
You really should consider doing " dimensions in time " , the official 30th Anniversary featuring many original actors . I won't lie, it is not good, but is an experience every Who fan should have : :D. It's also relatively short.
When the Doctor “summons the choir”, you can see him list his companions’ names, confirming where the Doctor’s true faith is.
Remember, the last three episodes of An Unearthly Child, were about the politics of a Stone Age tribe - politics has been part of Doctor Who from the beginning.
Just to confirm, Queen Victoria died in 1901 (a few months after Australia became a federated nation).
The content of Seasons 25 & 26 was pretty darn good, but that’s a discussion for the next story...
Fenric = The one waits?
I agree that Dr. Who was always political it never shyed away from politics.
Considering what happened in Rogue, the canonization of the alternate ninth Shalka Doctor, coupled with the image of the third Doctor they used is from Dimensions in Time. Doesn't this mean you have to do those two stories at least? It could be argued also that it was the Doctor from Curse of the Fatal Death, of which Richard E Grant was also the Doctor in. So just in case you will have to cover that story too. There is also 'Death Comes to Time' webisodes which came out just before 'Scream of the Shalka'.
There are several Doctor Who spin offs, that aren't audios, which came out in the years in between. I think for the full experience of there being a 'Wilderness Years' it should include some of these as they were Doctor Who for us in the years we waited eg P.R.O.B.E, Auton, Auton 2: Sentinel and Auton 3: Awakening, Shakedown: Return of the Sontarans, , Dæmos Rising, Mindgame and Mindgame Trilogy. They are all video productions, most of these are still for sale, and or floating around online.
We've already covered Dimensions in Time, Scream of The Shalka and Curse of Fatal Death. We don't plan to rewatch those like the 96 movie.
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What about the spin offs? Kate Stewart's first appearance was actually in the spin offs.
Doubtful. It's easier to just watch the official televised stuff. I don't think we'll do the minisodes within Modern Who either (aside from maybe Born Again).
@@7thHourFilms I think there's also been animated missing Doctor Who serials that have come out since you passed that point in the show. They were televised on BBC America and I think perhaps BBC 4.
Season 26 is better than Season 25, with the exception of Battlefield which is an over-lit, on-the-nose children's TV morality tale. I'm very glad you both liked Ghost Light - I was all ready to be angry with you and you totally disarmed me. Grrr. 😉
Did you do a reaction to both Peter Cushing Doctor Who movies? I can't remember top of my head.
Yeah. They're in the Classic Who and Movies playlist.
@@7thHourFilms Oh, great thanks. I'll check them out.
How is an unplugged radio disabled? Plug it back in again and it's fine. To disable something you have to make it non-functional. Turning it off or unplugging it is not non-functional! It's just off.
i would earnestly recommend reading a couple of the wilderness years books sometime, solely because some of them are just genuinely super solid reads even when totally divorced from doctor who as a series. anything by lawrence miles is near-guarenteed to be a banger. really not something you need to do for the channel, though.
Books are probably more likely than anything else. I'd be curious about the novel version of "Damaged Goods" because I thought the audio drama version wasn't the right medium for the story.
The Dial of Destiny was terrible that Phoebe Waller-Bridge was insufferable Indiana Jones was sidelined and was treated less like the masculine hero he use to be atleast "The Kingdom of Crystal Skull" was redeemably watchable and had more adventure and "The Temple of Doom" was chessy but it was good chessy.
Have you watched Children in need, Doctor Who
They have.
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Dial of Destiny was almost as good as Raiders? No way.
The East End evacuee girls, were terrible.
Maybe it was the dialogue, but they were so unnatural
The end of proper Who is near then onto the terrible american movie then onto Soap Who.
Dr Who has always been political and provided commentary on what has been going on in society. It happened very noticeably in the Pertwee era under Barry Letts. A number of stories are allegories on what was going on at the time - pollution, scientific hubris, EU membership, union disputes, but it was always part-and-parcel of a well-written story and not the main focus. The problem with the McCoy era is that it is done far more blatantly, to the point where each story comes across like a kids TV show, complete with a moralistic lesson for the viewer. That's not to say that the stories are all bad. Fenric is a superb story but one can't get rid of the overriding smell that one is being lectured to. Tragically, this is the point of departure for modern Who. The message comes first and the plot is secondary. The modern showrunners have no understanding of what made Who great. It's simply a vehicle to shock, upset, revise and push an agenda. They've destroyed the series but they don't care because it's all about them.
FFS it's story not episode. An episode is a single broadcast t.v. programme not the x number of programmes that go to make up a story. Not everything has to happen on screen for it to have happened - get over it!
So "Grumpy old git" isn't just a username, huh?
You need to realize there are more important things to life than the difference between "story" and "episode". It is ironic that you tell me to get over something about the show that doesn't really matter when you have become absolutely infuriated by something that doesn't further either of our lives. They're just sounds. Calm down.
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Okay, Grandpa. Let's get you back to bed.
@@7thHourFilms I think I'm old enough to go to bed when I want and to also block any more of your videos showing up in my suggestions. Goodbye and good riddance.