Especially after reading Neuvillette's lore, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Zhongli is the geo dragon sovereign who was larping as an adeptus and is now larping as a human. We've known he has a dragon form and all. Plus I think it would fit into HYV's Liyue favoritism and would allow for the Liyue archon quest's big ending reveal to be itself the setup for another big Zhongli reveal.
I really missed Chenyu Vale it was such a cozy place. I know i can still go there but it's strange to do it without a purpose. I hope we will get story quest there on Lantern Rite
Hai! I just checked my youtube recap and you are my most watched creator! (And genshin impact as my most watched game) i am also in the top 0.1% and watched 80 times as much as the average viewer lmao (i kind off binged all your vids in a span of 4 months😭) I wanted to thank you for giving me and others a place to go without any toxic influances, this channel and community have become a safe space :D i love how much you love the lore and that you fully dive head first into the story! You are amazing and i cant wait for more vids to come!! In the meantime i will also check out twitch! Sorry for the essay tho😅, just really happy that i found your channel😁 P.S. Paimon is amazing and deserves the world💚
Oh!!! I noticed that your chinese pronounciation is getting better! I was prompted to leave this comment when you said "Baqiu". Keep up the good work arnold! (Also idk if anyone in the west noticed it, but one of the NPC 5.0-5.2 livestream hosts always said the chinese names in good chinese that it shocked me) That zhongli "im a humble consultant but actually i signed a nda" took me out 😂😂😂😂😂
Remember guys orobasy was originally from lyue, he was unable to defeat Deus Ari ( “golden god") and flee to the dark sea where he became the god of the enconomia people then died in Inazuma in the habd of “ narukami"
21:15 I sincerely believe that Zhongli is most likely still the most powerful being that we have met so far. Ofcourse maybe except Mavuika in her final form(i don't wanna spoil for anyone else). Infact I am quite firm in my belief that current morax is still stronger than current neuvilette. Maybe not by a massive margin, but he still IS stronger. Not because Morax was born different(well he did i guess) but because Neuv is simply too young. And he isn't a combatant either. He can overwhelm most beings by sheer strength but he doesn't have the experience in actual combat. Something that Morax has been terrifyingly renowned at. Do not let the humble Zhongli fool you, Morax was feared on the battlefield as a ruthless warrior. The entirety of Liyue's martial arts originates from him just like how Inazuma's martial arts originate from Raiden. Neuv's authority being back doesn't necessarily mean he has the power to defeat Morax specially since he most likely still has geo authority. Heck morax's seals from 2000 years ago show no sign of breaking what so ever. A lot of gods he faced, are still alive under Guyun stone forest. Killing a powerful being is easy, keeping them trapped that too for 2000 years that too more than one of them...is just another level of power. Heck current morax hasn't even shown any strain on him, if the seals put any on him at all. I firmly believe that unless specifically stated, if morax and neuvilette were to fight to the death, Neuvilette will fall first and Morax would either die of injuries later or get crippled for hundreds thousands of years. I believe that the reason why Zhongli avoided neuv, was 1- Guilt, he is aware of the truth of his "authority" and probably did not want to confront that 2- He is trying to maintain his low-key identity. Neuvilette is not the one to shy away from revealing that. Heck he would have started by making a mockery out of him by saying something like "Oh!, how does it feel to be on stage, to put up an act and a prop shiny gem on your person?". Heck even if he did not reveal directly, i bet he would harass Zhongli about it for sure, and Hutao at the very least would definitely pick up on it, specially since she herself suspects Zhongli to be an adeptus. 3- Zhongli was probably also vary that IF he and Neuvilette ended up battling, even if its a squabble, irrespective of the outcome, Chenyu Vale at the very least would be doomed. His identity is revealed, his friends would die(well at least hutao would have), entire chenyu vale would have been destroyed and probably even entire Liyue might have been in jeopardy if it went out of hand and even if none of this happened, the Iudex of Fontaine coming to Liyue and starting a fight of godly proportions would completely destroy any relation between Fontaine and Liyue. So it was just much better to simply avoid this entire debacle at all. Also, remember, zhongli saw and identified neuvilette instantly and was able to hide him. On the other hand, Neuv could not do it. None of his words or actions show that he could detect the holder of geo authority nearby. I mean come on, this is a Chinese Wuxia inspired game, specially the dragons. There are concepts of "Being able to sense the power of someone strong or someone with the soul of my kin" or something along those lines. So if Zhongli managed to evade Neuv entirely simply means that he is not that weak. Oh and while not related but very curious, Zhongli knows that Nahida is not one of the original three. After the end of sumeru's quest, Nahida should have been the one and only archon of dendro EVER in everyone's memories. But Zhongli's voiceline still states that only him and Venti remains from the originals
22:12 My bet is that he has a contract with one of the four shades. So far all archons seems to have been connected to some higher power(at least the first gen), except Zhongli. Venti -> A fragment/part of Istaroth Raiden -> Well Makoto had some connection to istaroth(i mean pretty sure her twin had some connection too) who helped her plant sacred sakura. Also isn't the the statue of omnipresent god actually meant to be istaroth? I don't remember if that was a theory or hinted at in game. Furina -> Well..rather Egeria was connected to shade of life, who in turn was connected to Furina and Focalors Xbalanque and Mavuika- > Connections to Ronova Rukkhadevata while not having an explicit connection with a shade, is literal incarnation of Irminsul. And the fact that her abilities mimic life...she turned Khaveran she got from Goddess of Flowers into Simurgh..who then died and gave birth to pair..idk, i just feel her powers feel connected to shade of life(maybe as irminsul she has part of all four of them to some extent). Morax on the other hand, is written very vividly about. He was there when moon sisters died. He witnessed the sunchariot crashing in chasm. He is written to have "descended" and not born(but this is not that big of a deal because a lot of cultural texts actually use descended and ascended for the birth and death of great people and godly beings). And yet he is not connected to any shade? IDK feels sus to me My guess he is connected to shade of Eonothem. Eonothem is actually a geographical term, its actually a unit of measurement of "time" based on how many layers are observable on the chunk of earth. As in, overtime layers upon layers of earth get deposited over each other, and that can be used to tell the time period between the layers. Essentially a record of times. Thanks to his obvious association with geo, this actually makes sense.
I haven't done the world quest for Chenyu Vale, I want to watch this video to get into the story and I wouldn't mind if I get spoiled cuz I love hearing your thoughts about the lore and how you connect it to other lore that you able to connect the dots and peice them all together. Really love your efforts on making lore videos Arnold! ^^
lol I still think it’s funny you say Fujin is wearing those earrings when they are clearly different Guizhong isn’t forgotten though, so it was obvious that it wasn’t her
without spoiling anything, 5.2 added a new book about Chenyu Vale lore! perhaps this is in preparation for lantern rite seeing as Lanyan will probably bring us back to the Vale... I'm very curious if Guizhong does have any connection to Chenyu Vale's god, the idea always irked me because why would Guizhong decide to flood Guili Assembly which she co-created? also, considering that her workshop, the Hidden Palace of Guizang Formula, is a reference to the I Ching and thereby connected to the real-life Chinese Shang Dynasty which precedes the Zhou (as in the Hidden Palace of Zhou Formula domain, associated with Zhongli through his sealing of the Chi), it always seemed like the game was hinting at a peaceful handover of power from Liyue's/Guili Plains' previous dynasty of gods (Guizhong) to Morax, thereby implying Guizhong being a god native to the area around modern-day Guili Plains and Mt. Tianheng that said, we have nothing on Guizhong and she is as likely a candidate as anyone for the master of the mountain; another idea could be that, in line with recent themes of Seelie gods involved in ancient rites relating to the sky envoys (Nabu Malikata, Sibylla, Yohualtecuhtin) Chenyu's god could have also been a seelie for what it's worth, liyue's history probably remains as one of the most enigmatic in the game and i'm honestly dying for anything more concrete on morax and the history of the archon war 😔
He told his discord server that he will do the rest of Chasca's quest tomorrow, Sunday for Masters of the Night Wind stuff (but not the limited event yet). Monday is Star Rail. Plans are always subject to change but that's the plan for now.
What are you talking about? Are you new around here? I’ve been posting my content of the game in chronological order. If you keep spamming these kinds of comments you’re gonna get banned.
@@MurderofBirdsImpact A suggestion, can you make the playlist, according to updates? Ex: patch 1.X, Patch 2.X, etc. So it easier for us to watch your content.
@@mvat4972 I've actually been thinking of doing that recently, as the main playlist in incredibly bloated with over 4 years worth of content,. But yes, I'll be sure to update my playlists to make one for every major nation cycle (1.0 -1.6, 2.0 - 2.8, 3.0 - 3.8, 4.0 -4.8, and 5.0+)
I was unsure at first that Guizhong is the master of the mountain, since she doesn't resemble any features that could represent Chenyu Vale. But if the ancestors of the people in Chenyu Vale were really from the Chasm then it would really start making sense. God of dust worshipped by the miners. Thank you so much Arnold for these lore reading sessions, otherwise I wouldn't be able to connect the lore together.
Oh a very curious thing btw, Zhongli knows that Nahida is not one of the original seven. After the end of sumeru's quest, Nahida should have been the one and only archon of dendro EVER in everyone's memories. But Zhongli's voiceline still states that only him and Venti remains from the originals
It's fascinating how Hoyo drop it a pieces of lore waaaay before it's actually turned into quest. Geniuses, I swear.❤
Kinda hilarous how we have this image of Ghuizhong being this elegant lady, only to be a menace with gremlin energy. 😂👍
Especially after reading Neuvillette's lore, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Zhongli is the geo dragon sovereign who was larping as an adeptus and is now larping as a human. We've known he has a dragon form and all. Plus I think it would fit into HYV's Liyue favoritism and would allow for the Liyue archon quest's big ending reveal to be itself the setup for another big Zhongli reveal.
I really missed Chenyu Vale it was such a cozy place. I know i can still go there but it's strange to do it without a purpose.
I hope we will get story quest there on Lantern Rite
Hai! I just checked my youtube recap and you are my most watched creator! (And genshin impact as my most watched game) i am also in the top 0.1% and watched 80 times as much as the average viewer lmao (i kind off binged all your vids in a span of 4 months😭)
I wanted to thank you for giving me and others a place to go without any toxic influances, this channel and community have become a safe space :D i love how much you love the lore and that you fully dive head first into the story! You are amazing and i cant wait for more vids to come!! In the meantime i will also check out twitch!
Sorry for the essay tho😅, just really happy that i found your channel😁
P.S. Paimon is amazing and deserves the world💚
Oh!!! I noticed that your chinese pronounciation is getting better! I was prompted to leave this comment when you said "Baqiu". Keep up the good work arnold!
(Also idk if anyone in the west noticed it, but one of the NPC 5.0-5.2 livestream hosts always said the chinese names in good chinese that it shocked me)
That zhongli "im a humble consultant but actually i signed a nda" took me out 😂😂😂😂😂
if i am not mistaken, Liyue`s Night Theme is titled as Moon in One`s Cup.
yes! and it has some bittersweet lyrics also
Guizhong crumbs! I am sooo invested in her story with Zhongli and the harbour omg. Every Lantern Rite is like a personal holiday for me 💠🔶
Remember guys orobasy was originally from lyue, he was unable to defeat Deus Ari ( “golden god") and flee to the dark sea where he became the god of the enconomia people then died in Inazuma in the habd of “ narukami"
21:15 I sincerely believe that Zhongli is most likely still the most powerful being that we have met so far. Ofcourse maybe except Mavuika in her final form(i don't wanna spoil for anyone else).
Infact I am quite firm in my belief that current morax is still stronger than current neuvilette. Maybe not by a massive margin, but he still IS stronger. Not because Morax was born different(well he did i guess) but because Neuv is simply too young. And he isn't a combatant either. He can overwhelm most beings by sheer strength but he doesn't have the experience in actual combat. Something that Morax has been terrifyingly renowned at. Do not let the humble Zhongli fool you, Morax was feared on the battlefield as a ruthless warrior. The entirety of Liyue's martial arts originates from him just like how Inazuma's martial arts originate from Raiden.
Neuv's authority being back doesn't necessarily mean he has the power to defeat Morax specially since he most likely still has geo authority. Heck morax's seals from 2000 years ago show no sign of breaking what so ever. A lot of gods he faced, are still alive under Guyun stone forest. Killing a powerful being is easy, keeping them trapped that too for 2000 years that too more than one of them...is just another level of power. Heck current morax hasn't even shown any strain on him, if the seals put any on him at all.
I firmly believe that unless specifically stated, if morax and neuvilette were to fight to the death, Neuvilette will fall first and Morax would either die of injuries later or get crippled for hundreds thousands of years.
I believe that the reason why Zhongli avoided neuv, was
1- Guilt, he is aware of the truth of his "authority" and probably did not want to confront that
2- He is trying to maintain his low-key identity. Neuvilette is not the one to shy away from revealing that. Heck he would have started by making a mockery out of him by saying something like "Oh!, how does it feel to be on stage, to put up an act and a prop shiny gem on your person?". Heck even if he did not reveal directly, i bet he would harass Zhongli about it for sure, and Hutao at the very least would definitely pick up on it, specially since she herself suspects Zhongli to be an adeptus.
3- Zhongli was probably also vary that IF he and Neuvilette ended up battling, even if its a squabble, irrespective of the outcome, Chenyu Vale at the very least would be doomed. His identity is revealed, his friends would die(well at least hutao would have), entire chenyu vale would have been destroyed and probably even entire Liyue might have been in jeopardy if it went out of hand and even if none of this happened, the Iudex of Fontaine coming to Liyue and starting a fight of godly proportions would completely destroy any relation between Fontaine and Liyue.
So it was just much better to simply avoid this entire debacle at all. Also, remember, zhongli saw and identified neuvilette instantly and was able to hide him. On the other hand, Neuv could not do it. None of his words or actions show that he could detect the holder of geo authority nearby. I mean come on, this is a Chinese Wuxia inspired game, specially the dragons. There are concepts of "Being able to sense the power of someone strong or someone with the soul of my kin" or something along those lines. So if Zhongli managed to evade Neuv entirely simply means that he is not that weak.
Oh and while not related but very curious, Zhongli knows that Nahida is not one of the original three. After the end of sumeru's quest, Nahida should have been the one and only archon of dendro EVER in everyone's memories. But Zhongli's voiceline still states that only him and Venti remains from the originals
22:12 My bet is that he has a contract with one of the four shades. So far all archons seems to have been connected to some higher power(at least the first gen), except Zhongli.
Venti -> A fragment/part of Istaroth
Raiden -> Well Makoto had some connection to istaroth(i mean pretty sure her twin had some connection too) who helped her plant sacred sakura. Also isn't the the statue of omnipresent god actually meant to be istaroth? I don't remember if that was a theory or hinted at in game.
Furina -> Well..rather Egeria was connected to shade of life, who in turn was connected to Furina and Focalors
Xbalanque and Mavuika- > Connections to Ronova
Rukkhadevata while not having an explicit connection with a shade, is literal incarnation of Irminsul. And the fact that her abilities mimic life...she turned Khaveran she got from Goddess of Flowers into Simurgh..who then died and gave birth to pair..idk, i just feel her powers feel connected to shade of life(maybe as irminsul she has part of all four of them to some extent).
Morax on the other hand, is written very vividly about. He was there when moon sisters died. He witnessed the sunchariot crashing in chasm. He is written to have "descended" and not born(but this is not that big of a deal because a lot of cultural texts actually use descended and ascended for the birth and death of great people and godly beings). And yet he is not connected to any shade? IDK feels sus to me
My guess he is connected to shade of Eonothem. Eonothem is actually a geographical term, its actually a unit of measurement of "time" based on how many layers are observable on the chunk of earth. As in, overtime layers upon layers of earth get deposited over each other, and that can be used to tell the time period between the layers. Essentially a record of times. Thanks to his obvious association with geo, this actually makes sense.
I haven't done the world quest for Chenyu Vale, I want to watch this video to get into the story and I wouldn't mind if I get spoiled cuz I love hearing your thoughts about the lore and how you connect it to other lore that you able to connect the dots and peice them all together. Really love your efforts on making lore videos Arnold! ^^
22:57 I think they saved this traitor storyline for the Pyro Sovereign
Oh this isn't Baizhu story quest. That was hype and so interesting.
Oh, we did Baizhu story quest a WHILE ago haha
lol I still think it’s funny you say Fujin is wearing those earrings when they are clearly different
Guizhong isn’t forgotten though, so it was obvious that it wasn’t her
without spoiling anything, 5.2 added a new book about Chenyu Vale lore! perhaps this is in preparation for lantern rite seeing as Lanyan will probably bring us back to the Vale...
I'm very curious if Guizhong does have any connection to Chenyu Vale's god, the idea always irked me because why would Guizhong decide to flood Guili Assembly which she co-created?
also, considering that her workshop, the Hidden Palace of Guizang Formula, is a reference to the I Ching and thereby connected to the real-life Chinese Shang Dynasty which precedes the Zhou (as in the Hidden Palace of Zhou Formula domain, associated with Zhongli through his sealing of the Chi), it always seemed like the game was hinting at a peaceful handover of power from Liyue's/Guili Plains' previous dynasty of gods (Guizhong) to Morax, thereby implying Guizhong being a god native to the area around modern-day Guili Plains and Mt. Tianheng
that said, we have nothing on Guizhong and she is as likely a candidate as anyone for the master of the mountain; another idea could be that, in line with recent themes of Seelie gods involved in ancient rites relating to the sky envoys (Nabu Malikata, Sibylla, Yohualtecuhtin) Chenyu's god could have also been a seelie
for what it's worth, liyue's history probably remains as one of the most enigmatic in the game and i'm honestly dying for anything more concrete on morax and the history of the archon war 😔
Remember orobasy was originally from lyue,he could not defeat morax then flee to the islands of Inazuma where he died.
Lore time sweet
omg, Arnold content! :D
How did baizhu have no appearance in this update
are u gonna live tomorrow or not?
This question out of context sounds like malicious encouragement :v
man put a 'go' before the live part otherwise it reads as hes gonna die lol
He told his discord server that he will do the rest of Chasca's quest tomorrow, Sunday for Masters of the Night Wind stuff (but not the limited event yet). Monday is Star Rail. Plans are always subject to change but that's the plan for now.
🌚 i lost 50.50 at 85 pity 💔
Anyway Mavuika you are coming 🏍️🔥
Day 2 of begging Murdererofbirds to upload his Genshin story reaction
What are you talking about? Are you new around here? I’ve been posting my content of the game in chronological order. If you keep spamming these kinds of comments you’re gonna get banned.
@@MurderofBirdsImpact A suggestion, can you make the playlist, according to updates?
Ex: patch 1.X, Patch 2.X, etc.
So it easier for us to watch your content.
@@mvat4972 I've actually been thinking of doing that recently, as the main playlist in incredibly bloated with over 4 years worth of content,. But yes, I'll be sure to update my playlists to make one for every major nation cycle (1.0 -1.6, 2.0 - 2.8, 3.0 - 3.8, 4.0 -4.8, and 5.0+)
@@MurderofBirdsImpact Thanks
I was unsure at first that Guizhong is the master of the mountain, since she doesn't resemble any features that could represent Chenyu Vale. But if the ancestors of the people in Chenyu Vale were really from the Chasm then it would really start making sense. God of dust worshipped by the miners.
Thank you so much Arnold for these lore reading sessions, otherwise I wouldn't be able to connect the lore together.
Oh a very curious thing btw, Zhongli knows that Nahida is not one of the original seven. After the end of sumeru's quest, Nahida should have been the one and only archon of dendro EVER in everyone's memories. But Zhongli's voiceline still states that only him and Venti remains from the originals