I was trying to think of there church as being different yet they listen to everything sis says and don't ask me anything they promote the jezebel spirit have u ever heard of someone joking about poisoning there dish at a potluck and it seems like they except it as joking ? Some never came back cause type of " joking be for service
My ex wife was a strong Christian. She'd go to church, give money to the church, send her son to Christian school, knew the Bible better than I do and would pray before eating and every night. I divorced her because I found out that she was having an affair with her married atheist boss. I stuck around longer than I should have because she would use God as a shield to try and show she wasn't doing anything. I found the evidence the day after she swore in the name of Almighty God and on her sons life that she wasn't cheating. A true Testament to the words "even the demons of hell know there is a God."
That's pretty messed up. Split personality comes to mind - who knows. Then again, there should only be sinners in Church. Some will become Saints - most won't.
I’m a Christian… i have a narcissistic Christian friend .. I love but is having marital problems and blames him constantly and it’s her.. and I’ve said the truth to her but only a tiny bit at a time bc I knew this would happen.. and i don’t want her getting mad.. 😞✝️🙏but I do believe she believes.. I think she’s a narcissist bc of trauma.. but not sure bc I don’t know what to believe.. I know she gas changed but not in some ways 😞✝️🙏
I’m surprised UA-cam took that down. Narcissists in churches is a huge problem. I for one would like to hear a lot more about it, especially covert narcs. Church is one of their main hunting grounds!
yes i've grown up in the church and have witnessed this type of behavior and its awful lets not forget this type of behavior is christian witchcraft this is why i'll never step foot back into a church.
Indeed my mother is a Christian narcissistic bully... I finally went no contact 3 years ago at 35 and my life is now improved beyond anything I could imagine..
My mother is just this. She continues to go to church and she is a malignant narcissist. Very abusive, she cut me bangs in kindergarten-2nd grade to hide the bruises on my forehead. When she would get mad, she would say it was righteous anger, and very angry and mean all the time. I have night terrors from her always yelling at me throughout my life. So much trauma. This is VERY real and people should listen to this video. She actually got kicked out of St. Louis Family Church somehow.
Oh my goodness. That's horrible! I am so sorry you experienced that. But I very glad you survived it 💪 You are going to heal completely and help others do the same.
So very sorry that you went through this abuse! Hope you are not in a relationship with her now. My husband is a religious narcissist for sure. Have you read any of Leslie Vernicks books? She wrote one called the Emotionally Destructive Relationship and she is a Christian counselor who had a very toxic mother. Praying for you💕🙏
Indeed my mother is a Christian narcissistic bully... I finally went no contact 3 years ago at 35 and my life is now improved beyond anything I could imagine..
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
So so many religions/cults are formed largely due to lack of educational resources, lack of personal autonomy/critical thinking, and lack of outside opinions. It's gotten much harder to create an environment like that as we've gotten cameras and videos in our homes (phones) and public spaces near constantly. Though i know it still happens, of course, i wanted to just say that we're just more aware of cults and how to spot them now,. Just like crime and anything else we now have constant exposure to -from the net or the news- it seems more prevalent, but the opposite is true. Things are actually getting better, the more we are connecting to one another. And that gives me hope.
In the church ,it takes someone that is spirit filled and has the gift of discernment to figure out what is going on with the narcissist. They are very deceiving ! It sad ,a lot of people reach out for marriage concealing ,only to be somewhat further abused by clergy.I myself was being abused by a narcissist, only to be told that I needed to find my place by a pastor ! Not a perfect person,but a very loyal woman of God . I did find my place. I found another church and pastor totally filled with the holy Ghost! Praise God he set me free!
Thank you for making this !! I just got out of an abusive situation with a religious narcissist I was living with ! It was hell! Never again ! Jezebel spirit too !
Yes! Maybe religion and narcissism go together even more than politics and narcissism because narcissists crave being above everybody and everything. And narcissistic religious leaders have an endless supply of vulnerable people who come in good faith seeking healing and restored connection to God and community.
Thank you so much for talking about this!! I experienced an enormous amount of spiritual abuse when I was growing up. For example, I specifically remember being forced by my entire family to follow a far-right extremist version of Christianity when I was growing up. I also recall that I was never allowed to ask any questions about what my family’s beliefs were and why they believed that way. Whenever I asked about my family’s beliefs while I was growing up, I was immediately shamed by the person who I asked a question to, and I was sometimes verbally or even physically abused as “punishment” for asking a question. To my family, asking a question about their “Christian” beliefs is like insulting them. I am so happy that I have since gotten away from that, but it has caused me to question whether I truly believe in God.
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
Thanks for making this video Angel. So much truth in this! I have an abusive religious narcissistic bully of a mother and after finally going no contact 3 years ago at 35 my life and mental heath is now so much better.
I could write a book about my own experience with narcissistic spiritual abuse! Not all religious people are bad but l think religion is probably not a good thing for those who are recovering from codependency.
Oh my word hit the nail on the head! I am a 54 year old daughter of Christ and biologically of a narcissist earthly dad. He to me is a white washed tomb who has caused wounds throughout my life (emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually and financially). He has left me in survival mode for much too long. Like Jesus at the pool with the paralyzed man “Fo you want to get well?” YES! Unfortunately there are therapists that are making a profit and then some for a 10 week program. Thank you for making me feel not so alone!
This is the type of narcissist that I think pisses me off the most. I’m not religious but religion is specifically supposed to be a place for sinners who aren’t perfect to come together in common place and help each other out
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
I love God. I love Jesus. I am a spiritual being having a human experience. Like God himself, I hate religion. Spirituality is the truth. I love you ALL.❤🙏☺👍
Thank you!! By fate I believe I found you and your channel. I have a history of religious abuse in my past and this has opened my eyes to a new viewpoint. Blessings 💗
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
Oh my gosh, thank you for this validation. So much abuse in the name of God. The shaming and and painful deformation of my character and person God made me used against me for the narcissist to feel superior control over me. The sickness is beyond understanding. What do you anchor to when God has been used against you for other people's gain.
Yes I have experienced this and fortunately my Faith does not depend on men. They are their own absolute authority. They will say the Lord told me the Holy Spirit directed me. They can do no wrong and are forever pointing fingers. They seem to need a ministry or Church structure to work out of.
I think my pastor is narcissistic. He talks about himself a lot during preaching in our small church. He is always right (in his eyes) and likes people to help him instead of him helping people. He prays 5 seconds in private over a person whos sick but prays out loud 2 minutes in public during live video. I have caught him getting sermons offline and never gave credit to the writer.
Why do you still go there? No offense, but this sort of thing is baffling to me. Frankly, the word “pastor” should not be used by any person but Jesus. It’s the same Greek word (poimen) as “shepherd” in John 10 “There shall be ONE fold and ONE shepherd.” - Jesus “Call no man teacher upon earth, for ONE is your teacher: that is, Christ; and all ye are brethren.” - Jesus (Matt 23) Btw, well aware of what Paul said in Ephesians 4:11 There are 12 apostles, not 13. Cheers. Follow JESUS. Period. Blessings
Funny how I stumbled once again from searching because my present pastor is narcissistic too. Ugggg! Me snd my husband work in sound/video booth of this small church and pastor is against my husband working 2 Sundays out of a month and not being faithful to sound booth. I can run sound and video just fine by myself when hubby not there. Pastor is giving my hubby 3 months to fix his work schedule to be faithful to sound booth. I think pastor had more problem of him working on Sundays according to pastor. Hubby told me today how he’s going to tell pastor we’re stepping down Nov 1. Pastor told us in message how he’s taking the reins and getting things done. Good luck bro. We’re on verge of leaving this church too.
So much truth in this video, wow 😮 I can definitely understand what the study stated. I’ve seen it first hand and couldn’t believe what was happening 🤯
I totally know someone like this. His mother was bipolar and narcissistic toward him and pretty much everyone around her. He took on those characteristics. I think that he is seeking help through "religion" but is easily finessed by the simplicity of using "religion" to " get his way" and "be a bully" and " feels entitled by patriarchal history" so then he FEELS justified in his actions.
It's been 42 years and something inside me told me not to let my guard down,we are strangers to another. God put me where he wanted me. When you follow Christ you get crucified.
Thanks. You can find them in all religions. Because at the end of the day they come from the same factory. I have grown up between these types of people. Again thanks a lot lady.
Thank you for this video. I wrote a book about my spiritual trauma, and I founded my religion, it's a bad religion because it's a religion that says that everyone has their ways to connect with the great spirit. I way to connect is with music, so my religion is a punk rock band. In fact, the practicing music have reversed my spiritual trauma with physical changes. Since I started my punk rock band I reversed 2 prescription drugs, got released from therapy after 18 years, my weight got stabilized and I no longer hate myself and no more self harm acts. Not even a thought of hitting myself. It's been 2 years. Thanks to rock and roll! Awesome video. Ps, I would love to send you my book, I think you might like it.
I would love to read your book! I’m currently trying to deconstruct all of my trauma, religious and otherwise. Recently diagnosed BPD, and going through some serious life changes.
"Religion will bring you to church, Spirituality gives you a relationship with God". And any person who has faith and spirituality would still help any other human and not judge them because they don't go to church or belong to a congregation! I don't need a building to walk into to have a relationship with God & to pray! These type of people are extremist & worse than someone who has no connection to any religion! These people cause harm to others who won't go along with their B.S.! My parents instilled in me to help someone regardless of all that! They are a good person going through a tough time and you can help, then that is what you do! How does anyone who bosts they belong or are a leader of some church but are nasty and judgemental and won't help other people? What kind of people do that? Tell Me? I have more respect for agnostic's and athius ! Not fake cult extremist!
they manipulate and say God told me this and that or whatever like they use God and Jesus as a Justification to be rude to someone or guilt trip you I have to live another year with these type of people and I'm really uncomfortable wish me luck:(
Run far away man and don't look back because of the toxicity is not worth the gaslighting and toxic behavior. They are d bags instead of being good people.
Good video I always say narcissists are attracted to Christianity and religion cuz they find easy targets, and you know a lot about them so you know I mean that on very deep levels
The topic of 'narcissism ' is the issue of ego and traumatic fearfull primal conditions...which is like the drama from the crucifiction ....the resurection is metafore to transcend this drama and suffering and coming back into the higher self ...atman into paratman.....
I know that we are all humans - faulty humans - even church leaders and priests. And the one reason I still go to church is that I know it is the place for sinners. But sinners who repent. Who desire a relationship with God and who humbly ask for forgiveness and who try to overcome their sinfulness. Some people's sins are more visible that others. And it is easy to judge people on what we see. I think everyone is on a journey to self awareness and also spiritual awareness. It is indeed difficult to deal with people who appear to have it all figured out and who appear to know what God wants for everyone, and try to dictate each person's relationship with God. That is NONE of their business. Instead of being Light, they are pushing people away.
so true....look at their actions, ignore their words. joyce meyer said she was so holy at church but as soon as she and Dave got in the car, the fighting began.....until she fought through to find Jesus
Thank you very much for your intense study, wise discernment, and sharing your excellent videos with us. The reason that I appreciate you so much, is that I went to three seminaries in the 1970s , majoring in Bible and Psychology; and minoring in Biblical Languages and Counseling. The more I learned from the Bible, the more I realized that Religion was not the relationship the Savior taught us about. I was surrounded by Narcissists with a few exceptions. I walked away from Organized Religion and have continued studying to find, learn, and know the Truth in order to be set free! What an epic battle and journey it has been! I thank God for people like you who have also been led by God's Word and His Spirit. I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Yah bless you!
@@AngelJStormPhD Blessings to you sister, it is so encouraging to find other sentient beings on this planet! (-: You are making a difference! Yah bless you!
Yeah my grandma definately shifts personalities oneinuet shes kind and caring the next she defends her letter the next she spouts off bad things about me to her kids
Wow we just experience the wrath of the narcissist this weekend in our church and all these points hit home. We never learned in the normal course of Life how to identify and nip it in the bud before it gets to a point where the narcissist sees his control. Thank you for the content.
As a Satanist I have to deal with a lot of Narcissistic abusers who r constantly recording videos of me with me knowing or consenting to them videotaping me and then they go to a Christian radio station that my neighbors love to listen to where they feel good about themselves when they complain and complain about me over just existing. Because of this when I see videos on Narcissistic Abuse and the content creators are constantly talking about their faith I just ignore them. Because they psychologically abusive towards me. Because I am just minding my own business while they r whining and complaining about me just to fell better than me.
Church has bashed me a lot too for going no contact with my narcissistic covert mother. Still can’t stand religious narcissistic people. The way they use the word is to manipulate and throw it at peoples faces.
I have experienced spiritual abuse from my FIL, b/c he was not only my FIL, but my pastor and my employer at one point. He had a significant amount of power in my life. It was the most difficult experience of life.
Pray for the sheep among these wolves. So happy to be free if religion and the belief. Wish all could be. But.. I know that will never be. Prayers for the good PPL inside this insanity.
Any help out there for a single mom of 3 fleeing domestic abuse that got sucked in by a religious narc older woman that saw a vulnerable woman and easy way to snatch 3 young children and throw away the mom, and glorify herself as a "saint."
How does one handle them when they are the leaders/elders of a small but growing church, and you are also an elder, a frustrated one because every thing is done over you
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
When my boyfriend's dad died ,he all of a sudden became self righteous. Calling himself a black hebrew israelite. OMG!! Driving me crazy!! I understand he wants to change but that's not how you change. Putting the kids and myself through pure hell. I done told him so many times to get out and join his whatever companions but he want listen. Narcissist at his finest
Be very careful, some of the Black Hebrew Israelites have a similar ideology to the KKK(in reverse), and engage in many dangerous cult like behaviors. You should be very concerned for your welfare and the welfare of your children.
I have a question about a narcissists. Does a narcissist also highly exaggerate a persons faults? For example a person might make ONE mistake (for example told a lie, but the person who told the lie was very sorry and had repented of it ) but that narcissist will still always hold it against them and bring it up in arguments saying for example you are always lying and have been a liar for the two years that I have know you.(yet the narcissist would not even known that person for two years but only one year )
Yes that’s typical for narcs, very petty, vindictive, unforgiving, they hold grudges for ever, they will exaggerate other people shortcomings, even the smallest mistake to the size of Mount Everest so the can hide behind their own sins.
Enjoyed your segment. This is my first time here. I have just did 2 videos on this subject on my channel regarding deceptive and lying pastors. Please check it out. God bless you sister
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I was trying to think of there church as being different yet they listen to everything sis says and don't ask me anything they promote the jezebel spirit have u ever heard of someone joking about poisoning there dish at a potluck and it seems like they except it as joking ? Some never came back cause type of " joking be for service
Yes! Churches rarely admit to failure to discern someone’s character. They preach humility, but practicing it is another matter.
My ex wife was a strong Christian. She'd go to church, give money to the church, send her son to Christian school, knew the Bible better than I do and would pray before eating and every night. I divorced her because I found out that she was having an affair with her married atheist boss. I stuck around longer than I should have because she would use God as a shield to try and show she wasn't doing anything. I found the evidence the day after she swore in the name of Almighty God and on her sons life that she wasn't cheating. A true Testament to the words "even the demons of hell know there is a God."
WOW.
Well damn
That right there is a religious christian not a genuine christian.
That's pretty messed up. Split personality comes to mind - who knows. Then again, there should only be sinners in Church. Some will become Saints - most won't.
I’m a Christian… i have a narcissistic Christian friend .. I love but is having marital problems and blames him constantly and it’s her.. and I’ve said the truth to her but only a tiny bit at a time bc I knew this would happen.. and i don’t want her getting mad.. 😞✝️🙏but I do believe she believes.. I think she’s a narcissist bc of trauma.. but not sure bc I don’t know what to believe.. I know she gas changed but not in some ways 😞✝️🙏
I’m surprised UA-cam took that down. Narcissists in churches is a huge problem. I for one would like to hear a lot more about it, especially covert narcs. Church is one of their main hunting grounds!
yes i've grown up in the church and have witnessed this type of behavior and its awful lets not forget this type of behavior is christian witchcraft this is why i'll never step foot back into a church.
Indeed my mother is a Christian narcissistic bully... I finally went no contact 3 years ago at 35 and my life is now improved beyond anything I could imagine..
There vary good at getting others to cover for them
I'm not surprised
It's there normal
Religion is a real sneaky place for the narcissist to hide out!! It gives them a special feeling of entitlement.
My mother is just this. She continues to go to church and she is a malignant narcissist. Very abusive, she cut me bangs in kindergarten-2nd grade to hide the bruises on my forehead. When she would get mad, she would say it was righteous anger, and very angry and mean all the time. I have night terrors from her always yelling at me throughout my life. So much trauma. This is VERY real and people should listen to this video. She actually got kicked out of St. Louis Family Church somehow.
Oh my goodness. That's horrible! I am so sorry you experienced that. But I very glad you survived it 💪 You are going to heal completely and help others do the same.
Oh no 😭😭 you poor thing! No child should go through that xxx
So very sorry that you went through this abuse! Hope you are not in a relationship with her now. My husband is a religious narcissist for sure. Have you read any of Leslie Vernicks books? She wrote one called the Emotionally Destructive Relationship and she is a Christian counselor who had a very toxic mother. Praying for you💕🙏
Indeed my mother is a Christian narcissistic bully... I finally went no contact 3 years ago at 35 and my life is now improved beyond anything I could imagine..
I am so sorry. That is not God. My heart goes out to you!
I find that the pulpit and platform, set above the people, the place of condescending, is attractive to narcissists.
Yes, too often that's true 😣
Yep
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
I am so glad your bringing this up. Cults are more involved into our communities more these days. People need to be educated about this matter.
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
@Greg Jacques praise the one who all cults worship?
So so many religions/cults are formed largely due to lack of educational resources, lack of personal autonomy/critical thinking, and lack of outside opinions. It's gotten much harder to create an environment like that as we've gotten cameras and videos in our homes (phones) and public spaces near constantly.
Though i know it still happens, of course, i wanted to just say that we're just more aware of cults and how to spot them now,. Just like crime and anything else we now have constant exposure to -from the net or the news- it seems more prevalent, but the opposite is true.
Things are actually getting better, the more we are connecting to one another. And that gives me hope.
In the church ,it takes someone that is spirit filled and has the gift of discernment to figure out what is going on with the narcissist. They are very deceiving ! It sad ,a lot of people reach out for marriage concealing ,only to be somewhat further abused by clergy.I myself was being abused by a narcissist, only to be told that I needed to find my place by a pastor ! Not a perfect person,but a very loyal woman of God . I did find my place. I found another church and pastor totally filled with the holy Ghost! Praise God he set me free!
This was my entire childhood
I'm so sorry 😭
Domestic violence judges need to know about that study.
Thank you for making this !! I just got out of an abusive situation with a religious narcissist I was living with ! It was hell! Never again ! Jezebel spirit too !
Religion and narcissism are natural go together s.
Yes 💯
Yes! Maybe religion and narcissism go together even more than politics and narcissism because narcissists crave being above everybody and everything. And narcissistic religious leaders have an endless supply of vulnerable people who come in good faith seeking healing and restored connection to God and community.
Thank you so much for talking about this!! I experienced an enormous amount of spiritual abuse when I was growing up. For example, I specifically remember being forced by my entire family to follow a far-right extremist version of Christianity when I was growing up. I also recall that I was never allowed to ask any questions about what my family’s beliefs were and why they believed that way. Whenever I asked about my family’s beliefs while I was growing up, I was immediately shamed by the person who I asked a question to, and I was sometimes verbally or even physically abused as “punishment” for asking a question. To my family, asking a question about their “Christian” beliefs is like insulting them. I am so happy that I have since gotten away from that, but it has caused me to question whether I truly believe in God.
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
I’m so glad you did this. I hve seen this my entire life
So sorry for your experience but I am glad my video helped 🙏
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
Thanks for making this video Angel. So much truth in this! I have an abusive religious narcissistic bully of a mother and after finally going no contact 3 years ago at 35 my life and mental heath is now so much better.
I'm sorry for your experience but I am glad that you are finally finding peace!
Very nice presentation- why is humility so little taught today? When did you last hear a sermon on humility?
They’re quick to send people to hell but do all of the things they are sending people to hell for.
We all sin, and all deserve hell but a personal relationship with Jesus and trusting in him is what will send us to Heaven! 🙏🏻
I could write a book about my own experience with narcissistic spiritual abuse! Not all religious people are bad but l think religion is probably not a good thing for those who are recovering from codependency.
so very true
I'll help write a chapter for your book
Oh my word hit the nail on the head! I am a 54 year old daughter of Christ and biologically of a narcissist earthly dad. He to me is a white washed tomb who has caused wounds throughout my life (emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually and financially). He has left me in survival mode for much too long. Like Jesus at the pool with the paralyzed man “Fo you want to get well?” YES! Unfortunately there are therapists that are making a profit and then some for a 10 week program. Thank you for making me feel not so alone!
Welcome to the channel! ❤️
@@AngelJStormPhD enjoy the knowledge that I am gleaning. Bought your book!
@@kimberlylennon-freire2191 thank you! I hope it helps! ❤️
Your voice is so calming and assuring...thank you for this video.
This is the type of narcissist that I think pisses me off the most. I’m not religious but religion is specifically supposed to be a place for sinners who aren’t perfect to come together in common place and help each other out
Yes! So accurate. Glad I don’t belong my ex’s cult anymore. #FreeIndeed
ME TOO!!
Glad ur here. AMEN
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
My family used religion as a weapon especially my narc dad. I have a lot of CPST from it.
Same same
I literally feel shame behind everything I do thanks to that
I love God. I love Jesus. I am a spiritual being having a human experience. Like God himself, I hate religion. Spirituality is the truth. I love you ALL.❤🙏☺👍
@Greg Jacques WRONG!
Thank you!! By fate I believe I found you and your channel. I have a history of religious abuse in my past and this has opened my eyes to a new viewpoint. Blessings 💗
The study is brilliant! It’s such good information !
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
Oh my gosh, thank you for this validation. So much abuse in the name of God. The shaming and and painful deformation of my character and person God made me used against me for the narcissist to feel superior control over me. The sickness is beyond understanding. What do you anchor to when God has been used against you for other people's gain.
Same question 🙋🏽♀️
Good question. I always felt grounded in God but not anymore. Church ruined it for me.
I was in a Buddhist organization called the Soka Gakki that did this.So glad I'm out.Thank you for exposing this informantion.
SPEAK THAT TRUTH! You are so right!
Yes I have experienced this and fortunately my Faith does not depend on men. They are their own absolute authority. They will say the Lord told me the Holy Spirit directed me. They can do no wrong and are forever pointing fingers. They seem to need a ministry or Church structure to work out of.
I think my pastor is narcissistic. He talks about himself a lot during preaching in our small church. He is always right (in his eyes) and likes people to help him instead of him helping people. He prays 5 seconds in private over a person whos sick but prays out loud 2 minutes in public during live video. I have caught him getting sermons offline and never gave credit to the writer.
Why do you still go there? No offense, but this sort of thing is baffling to me.
Frankly, the word “pastor” should not be used by any person but Jesus. It’s the same Greek word (poimen) as “shepherd” in John 10
“There shall be ONE fold and ONE shepherd.” - Jesus
“Call no man teacher upon earth, for ONE is your teacher: that is, Christ; and all ye are brethren.” - Jesus (Matt 23)
Btw, well aware of what Paul said in Ephesians 4:11
There are 12 apostles, not 13. Cheers.
Follow JESUS. Period. Blessings
The pastor at the church I was attending wasn’t like this but I had a bad feeling about the elder and assistant pastor.
@@AnHebrewChild That pastor left the church.
Funny how I stumbled once again from searching because my present pastor is narcissistic too. Ugggg! Me snd my husband work in sound/video booth of this small church and pastor is against my husband working 2 Sundays out of a month and not being faithful to sound booth. I can run sound and video just fine by myself when hubby not there. Pastor is giving my hubby 3 months to fix his work schedule to be faithful to sound booth. I think pastor had more problem of him working on Sundays according to pastor. Hubby told me today how he’s going to tell pastor we’re stepping down Nov 1. Pastor told us in message how he’s taking the reins and getting things done. Good luck bro. We’re on verge of leaving this church too.
After a big gossip happened to me I’ve stopped attending to the gossip gathering since 1996, religious people, dangerous people . “ Sir Anthony “.
So 😥 not what it's meant to be I here u I gave up on church. GOD's only one to trust I don't want to be like them I want to do GOD's ❤
So much truth in this video, wow 😮 I can definitely understand what the study stated. I’ve seen it first hand and couldn’t believe what was happening 🤯
I totally know someone like this. His mother was bipolar and narcissistic toward him and pretty much everyone around her. He took on those characteristics. I think that he is seeking help through "religion" but is easily finessed by the simplicity of using "religion" to " get his way" and "be a bully" and " feels entitled by patriarchal history" so then he FEELS justified in his actions.
It's been 42 years and something inside me told me not to let my guard down,we are strangers to another. God put me where he wanted me. When you follow Christ you get crucified.
Thanks. You can find them in all religions. Because at the end of the day they come from the same factory. I have grown up between these types of people. Again thanks a lot lady.
Yes exactly right
Thank you for this video. I wrote a book about my spiritual trauma, and I founded my religion, it's a bad religion because it's a religion that says that everyone has their ways to connect with the great spirit. I way to connect is with music, so my religion is a punk rock band. In fact, the practicing music have reversed my spiritual trauma with physical changes. Since I started my punk rock band I reversed 2 prescription drugs, got released from therapy after 18 years, my weight got stabilized and I no longer hate myself and no more self harm acts. Not even a thought of hitting myself. It's been 2 years. Thanks to rock and roll! Awesome video. Ps, I would love to send you my book, I think you might like it.
I would love to read your book! I’m currently trying to deconstruct all of my trauma, religious and otherwise. Recently diagnosed BPD, and going through some serious life changes.
Parents and grandmother are this way. They manipulate and control every aspect of everyone's life and says that its Gods word. I gotta pray about this
"Religion will bring you to church, Spirituality gives you a relationship with God".
And any person who has faith and spirituality would still help any other human and not judge them because they don't go to church or belong to a congregation! I don't need a building to walk into to have a relationship with God & to pray!
These type of people are extremist & worse than someone who has no connection to any religion! These people cause harm to others who won't go along with their B.S.! My parents instilled in me to help someone regardless of all that! They are a good person going through a tough time and you can help, then that is what you do! How does anyone who bosts they belong or are a leader of some church but are nasty and judgemental and won't help other people? What kind of people do that? Tell Me?
I have more respect for agnostic's and athius ! Not fake cult extremist!
The connection between the narc and the relige....is scary....perfect bedfellows
This is very, very important.
Thank you so much for touching on this subject
Yes! 💯💯
Thank you so much for doing these videos.Never stop.
they manipulate and say God told me this and that or whatever like they use God and Jesus as a Justification to be rude to someone or guilt trip you I have to live another year with these type of people and I'm really uncomfortable wish me luck:(
Run far away man and don't look back because of the toxicity is not worth the gaslighting and toxic behavior. They are d bags instead of being good people.
Good video I always say narcissists are attracted to Christianity and religion cuz they find easy targets, and you know a lot about them so you know I mean that on very deep levels
Thank you for your honesty and courage❤
The topic of 'narcissism ' is the issue of ego and traumatic fearfull primal conditions...which is like the drama from the crucifiction ....the resurection is metafore to transcend this drama and suffering and coming back into the higher self ...atman into paratman.....
I know that we are all humans - faulty humans - even church leaders and priests. And the one reason I still go to church is that I know it is the place for sinners. But sinners who repent. Who desire a relationship with God and who humbly ask for forgiveness and who try to overcome their sinfulness. Some people's sins are more visible that others. And it is easy to judge people on what we see. I think everyone is on a journey to self awareness and also spiritual awareness. It is indeed difficult to deal with people who appear to have it all figured out and who appear to know what God wants for everyone, and try to dictate each person's relationship with God. That is NONE of their business. Instead of being Light, they are pushing people away.
Thank you for your loving insights!!
Thank you so much! So true!!!
Thanks sister love you God bless you
Thank you for this. It's really helped me
Thank you, Woman of God, this is so Good! Hallelujah, God bless you!
so true....look at their actions, ignore their words. joyce meyer said she was so holy at church but as soon as she and Dave got in the car, the fighting began.....until she fought through to find Jesus
Great information!!Thank you, Thank you.
Thank you very much for your intense study, wise discernment, and sharing your excellent videos with us. The reason that I appreciate you so much, is that I went to three seminaries in the 1970s , majoring in Bible and Psychology; and minoring in Biblical Languages and Counseling. The more I learned from the Bible, the more I realized that Religion was not the relationship the Savior taught us about. I was surrounded by Narcissists with a few exceptions. I walked away from Organized Religion and have continued studying to find, learn, and know the Truth in order to be set free! What an epic battle and journey it has been! I thank God for people like you who have also been led by God's Word and His Spirit. I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Yah bless you!
I'm so glad you found this video helpful! Blessings on your continued journey 🙏
@@AngelJStormPhD Blessings to you sister, it is so encouraging to find other sentient beings on this planet! (-: You are making a difference! Yah bless you!
Thank you so much🙏 Your experience no doubt will shine the Light to many!
Yeah my grandma definately shifts personalities oneinuet shes kind and caring the next she defends her letter the next she spouts off bad things about me to her kids
You are right on religion Narc is real.
Wow we just experience the wrath of the narcissist this weekend in our church and all these points hit home. We never learned in the normal course of Life how to identify and nip it in the bud before it gets to a point where the narcissist sees his control. Thank you for the content.
So glad it spoke to you 🙏🙏
I agree with this video.
I wonder what content UA-cam-And-Flagger thought was against their non-stated guidelines?
thankyou thankyou!!!! a voice of reason
As a Satanist I have to deal with a lot of Narcissistic abusers who r constantly recording videos of me with me knowing or consenting to them videotaping me and then they go to a Christian radio station that my neighbors love to listen to where they feel good about themselves when they complain and complain about me over just existing. Because of this when I see videos on Narcissistic Abuse and the content creators are constantly talking about their faith I just ignore them. Because they psychologically abusive towards me. Because I am just minding my own business while they r whining and complaining about me just to fell better than me.
Thank You. I have learned alot from you in a short amount of time.
I am so glad to hear that!! ❤️
Thanks for this message my sis .☺
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Church has harassed me over narcissist sibling for no contact while shopping I'm. Not sure they won't still do so I was told to keep it quite
Church has bashed me a lot too for going no contact with my narcissistic covert mother. Still can’t stand religious narcissistic people. The way they use the word is to manipulate and throw it at peoples faces.
@@Iceejayy yes it's really 😥 even sadder the church leaders don't ask the one it's about anything or even why?
Thanks for giving us golden advice!
I pray it blesses you!
I have experienced spiritual abuse from my FIL, b/c he was not only my FIL, but my pastor and my employer at one point. He had a significant amount of power in my life. It was the most difficult experience of life.
I am so sorry you went through that! Spiritual abuse is one of the worst ways narcissists can hurt others. Thank you for sharing your story 🙏
@@AngelJStormPhD Thank you. Yes it truly is! Thank you for your words of wisdom!
Bless you man
Religion and narcissism go hand in hand. It's all about the "God part of the brain".
This is excellent, and on point!!!!
Glad it helped you! 🙌
So that I may get these notes in their fullness
Dr Storm thank you for this video. My X mother in law made my life miserable …. Thank you for explaining this
So glad it has helped you 🙏🙏
Mentally handicapped individuals can get really sideways when perceiving religions
This is SO true. Thank you and Godbless you.
Emily Liberty.
I'm so glad this helped you
@@AngelJStormPhD Oh it certainly has and came along just at the right time too. Subbed!! 😁
@@emilygraham9968 so glad!! And welcome to my channel ❤️
Oh my this is so good
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This wS so helpful im currently realising ive been with a.spiritual narc
It took me a year and a half after being discarded to realize what happened.
Dr. Storm, would you perhaps have the citation of the study done by Barley University which you mention at 9:10?
Amazing! They removed your video and when you compare it to some of the other continent on UA-cam??? Ridiculous
Right?! 🤷♀️
Pray for the sheep among these wolves. So happy to be free if religion and the belief. Wish all could be. But.. I know that will never be. Prayers for the good PPL inside this insanity.
Any help out there for a single mom of 3 fleeing domestic abuse that got sucked in by a religious narc older woman that saw a vulnerable woman and easy way to snatch 3 young children and throw away the mom, and glorify herself as a "saint."
Thanks for this video!
You're welcome! Hope it helps you 🙏
Great, you described my mom!
You just explained a lot of the behaviors of Christian nationalism.
Religious narcissists learn from the best narcissist in the Old Testament, SkyDaddy
my ex narc attended church religiously but lived like the devil. i think he does it to look good publicly
Yes that's very common 😭
So accurate!
So how do you avoid an attachment syndrome after being stung by this and a huge break of trust?
Heal.
@@AngelJStormPhD what should DaNaia Jaxn do?
@@jasmineetienne1767 Exactly what I said - heal
Do you have a website to watch these other videos on narcissistic spiritual abuse?
How does one handle them when they are the leaders/elders of a small but growing church, and you are also an elder, a frustrated one because every thing is done over you
Get out immediately. As the church grows, so will their narcissism and abuse.
Can you imagine....censorship on a PHD....nothing wrong with open minds or controversy .
Please do you answer questions on religious narcissists
the spirit that causes narcissism is Jezebel and I also heard leviathen a few times.That's why they use emotional whichcraft.There is also a such thing as a religious which that's kind I what narcs are that have the spirit of religion which is bad in all people rather they are a narcissist or not.Going to church habitually and not even believing in God or having a relationship with him is 1 sign of the spirit of religion.Not believing the full bible and hating preachers that talk about casting out demons is signs of the spirit of religion too there are also many other signs.
When my boyfriend's dad died ,he all of a sudden became self righteous. Calling himself a black hebrew israelite. OMG!! Driving me crazy!! I understand he wants to change but that's not how you change. Putting the kids and myself through pure hell. I done told him so many times to get out and join his whatever companions but he want listen. Narcissist at his finest
😮😮😮 wild!!!
Be very careful, some of the Black Hebrew Israelites have a similar ideology to the KKK(in reverse), and engage in many dangerous cult like behaviors. You should be very concerned for your welfare and the welfare of your children.
I have a question about a narcissists. Does a narcissist also highly exaggerate a persons faults? For example a person might make ONE mistake (for example told a lie, but the person who told the lie was very sorry and had repented of it ) but that narcissist will still always hold it against them and bring it up in arguments saying for example you are always lying and have been a liar for the two years that I have know you.(yet the narcissist would not even known that person for two years but only one year )
Yes that’s typical for narcs, very petty, vindictive, unforgiving, they hold grudges for ever, they will exaggerate other people shortcomings, even the smallest mistake to the size of Mount Everest so the can hide behind their own sins.
Yep. They won't attempt to forgive others yet expect others to forgive them.
Enjoyed your segment. This is my first time here. I have just did 2 videos on this subject on my channel regarding deceptive and lying pastors. Please check it out. God bless you sister
True said
Wolf in Shepherds clothing..
I’m confused…
Why blame others?
YOU make your own decisions when it comes to beliefs and relationships
Level up
Bravo
When you describe these people as living a "Christian" life, or a "strong Christian", it diminishes true Christianity.
..Satan loves these people...they are undermining God's purpose for us...keep posting..God Bless You!