This is a great chance to see how much has changed since you built this kit and how you've learned and progressed as a builder. She's going to be beautiful when you're done. Things have changed a lot since you built this kit and looking forward what improvements you add to this beautiful starship.
I would also follow Simon's admonition which is to keep the boards out of the model. Can change things as they need-- just keep the wiring labeled for posterity. That first go 'round was not bad at all-- a leetle-beetle more "engineering" of that belly plate would have supported things better. That and a plexiglass skeleton/support thingie for the neck and saucer. Nothing would help the engine nacelles-- well... maybe a total re-think of those attach points. But the lighting was stellar-- CCFL was the *nes plus ultra* of back then. And the results are still good looking. Louis... if you wanted to be a plumber, then you should remember that you CAN solder copper to brass and carry on. Yes, you need to shape the points where they mate, but that's just modeling with harder materials. Don't like soldering that much stuff together? Try something mechanical-- small nuts and bolts through strapping. Lot of ways to skin that fish. Speaking of materials-- I (tried) to study at Dave Merriman's knee-- working with fiberglass is generally a royal etc. But, one must not be afraid of sawing stuff away, tapping screws from the hull inward or running nuts and bolts through the hull. All can be covered and finished/re-sculpted. You could even, in the event of ultimate destruction of surface detail, make a rubber putty cast of a tricky surface detail and drop in some resin (or epoxy) and reapply it later. I highly recommend the getting of some Evercoat Metal Glaze. Great stuff-- a little time challenged but worth the struggle. So far, I love what you're doing!
Looking great so far Lou. The mold maker saved a bit of work running the wires in the mold. It's always interesting to have another go at a model with a few years under the belt in between.
Looking great so far. One word of caution about fiberglass and resin, more resin does not make things stronger. The polyester resin is actually very brittle once cured. The strength comes from locking the glass fibers in place. So easy with the resin it just adds weight and as it cures it will generate lots of heat - wrapping things in the process. Again great work so far. I am looking forward to watching your progress.
Your doing an amazing job on this new kit. The old kit was also a beautiful job, considering what you had to work with, back in the day. Can't wait to see this new one finished......(happy the shirt fits!!)
I love the look of the Enterprise E and actually saw it last night on Comet TV. The size of this one is awesome. Great work with the fiberglass already Lou. This is going to be a good one to watch.
Good luck with this one Lou! The designer's decision to split the secondary hull vertically rather than horizontally is absolutely insane! The armature is an excellent idea and looks well executed but the wires moulded into the pylons are way bigger than they need to be - much like your wiring! 😆 Having said that, the wires are thick enough that you can use a common ground wire and so potentially have 7 circuits in the pylons. I'm very interested in how you are going to light the secondary hull now you have joined the halves and filled it with armature and wires. See you next week!
get a 3/8" tube, and swedge it out. Put on the half inch swedger, and pump it like once, and check. Repeat til ya got a tight fit. I realize this is an older video, and clearly, as I'm just starting the whole build playlist, but that's a good tip for the furture. I also am noticing your critiques, and they seem valid to me. Let me ask, why not build your own kit? I'm sure it'd sell. I'd get one.
Happy to see you're back doing what you do best- building Enterprises! It's been too long! I am sorry to see you tearing apart an old specimen though, but it is interesting to see tech from not so long ago. It might have been better and somewhat more entertaining, certainly from my old pre-teen perspective, to have taken it out to the backyard and blown it to hell with a bunch of strategically located Black Cats. Ah memories.
Lou, interesting project. FYI, while you can use brass and aluminum together without problems, copper and brass react to each other and will cause corrosion over time. You might want to stick with all brass so you don't need to replace anything later.
@@aztekdummy I suppose you could isolate them from each other with some kind of liner like mylar or other thin plastic. You just don't want the 2 in contact with each other. I made a necklace pendant years ago with brass and copper. I didn't know they reacted to each other and they caused each other to pitt badly.
We used to use a product on cars for body work called duraglass.you mix it like bondo and its fiberglass and gets hard like cement.maybe use that instead of regular fiber glass
I would have tried something on the secondary Hull. What about strips of .040 styrene inside the joint? Epoxy the strips to give a “landing zone” for the seam. Fill the joint after epoxying the port and starboard sections together. Maybe epoxy doesn’t like resin. Maybe I am thinking too much Constitution Class. There is no classic pylon on this thing. Is there room to work inside the Secondary with the half’s made whole?
Hay Lou big fan of your work. I have a suggestion you may not like at first. Instead of relying on the decals for your life pods why not create some drop in 3d printed ones or if you know someone who can have photoeched one made. It would add a extra level of detail to this kit. Also those two extra wires if you can get the right control board and neopicsle led strips in the nacelles you can have a warp flash effect.
but its a false level of detail. Even on the filming models - back when they still used them - the lifeboats were decals or dry transfers. and that was at a much bigger scale. at this size decals are just fine
If this model is "2nd Contact" was "1st Contact" given a proper funeral? Interestesting build, we can see how the technology of model building has evolved between 1st and 2nd Contacts.
Wow, thanks for showing the original as well as the new build - beautiful kit to say the least. One thing I am baffled over is the number of wires you have planned - could you have not put a little Arduino in each nacelle and just used one for power and one for control giving future flashing options? Or even simpler would be use a common ground wire rather than each light having its own...
@@aztekdummy Appreciate they where there but you do not have to pair them off as you did - I always like leaving extra cables in place as you never know what will happen in the future. As for CPU complexity - can you tell I'm a software guy at heart 😂 Chase lights, sync flashing etc etc! Stay safe - looking forward to part 2
I only put them in pairs to make sure that the black wire in one nacelle does the same thing in the other and so on. What exactly that function will be is not determined yet
Who made the circuit for the Bussard Ramscoops ? I'd really like to either buy or build several to use in a few ST projects. I'm good at designing & making my own vac & resin parts, but not being a superb electronics tech myself, I haven't been able to figure out how to make that hydrogen collecting effect myself. However, if I have a schematic I can build it.
Wow Lou, even taking your time you work like lightning! Really great video and you've done an amazing job. Lots to think about, and inspiration for when I build this kit myself before too long. Quick question, when you glued the two hull halves together before the fiberglass, what did you use, super glue or epoxy?
Like something leftover from the "Great Burn". So, what was that shiny metal box that looked suspiciously like a speaker box in the 1st Contact? Did I miss it?
Hi Lou I have a couple of questions for you, first I recently purchased a 1/650 Enterprise E and I was wondering where did you get the internal armature for the pylons and do you still make the window masks for the enterprise E? Thanks
@@federationshipyard4073 my armature came with the kit . It was a godsend.all these years later and still no droop. I still make the masks. The price is 150.
@@aztekdummy That would be great because as for now I only need the window masks I bought my model from Marshall Models and it looks awesome but only a few windows show in the mold. By the way my name is Dennis and been watching your videos for years and your work is awesome.
Is this model going on a shelf? We all know you're running out of space. Maybe suspended from the ceiling? You would have to eliminate the base. Too much trouble?
This is a great chance to see how much has changed since you built this kit and how you've learned and progressed as a builder. She's going to be beautiful when you're done. Things have changed a lot since you built this kit and looking forward what improvements you add to this beautiful starship.
"welcome to Starship Autopsy" brilliant Lou, loving the return to the shipyard
You telling me the warp engines warped? I'm shocked I tell you!
Ohhhhhhhh buddy, this is gonna be a good one! Can’t wait to see this one done !
I would also follow Simon's admonition which is to keep the boards out of the model. Can change things as they need-- just keep the wiring labeled for posterity.
That first go 'round was not bad at all-- a leetle-beetle more "engineering" of that belly plate would have supported things better. That and a plexiglass skeleton/support thingie for the neck and saucer. Nothing would help the engine nacelles-- well... maybe a total re-think of those attach points.
But the lighting was stellar-- CCFL was the *nes plus ultra* of back then. And the results are still good looking.
Louis... if you wanted to be a plumber, then you should remember that you CAN solder copper to brass and carry on. Yes, you need to shape the points where they mate, but that's just modeling with harder materials. Don't like soldering that much stuff together? Try something mechanical-- small nuts and bolts through strapping. Lot of ways to skin that fish.
Speaking of materials-- I (tried) to study at Dave Merriman's knee-- working with fiberglass is generally a royal etc. But, one must not be afraid of sawing stuff away, tapping screws from the hull inward or running nuts and bolts through the hull. All can be covered and finished/re-sculpted. You could even, in the event of ultimate destruction of surface detail, make a rubber putty cast of a tricky surface detail and drop in some resin (or epoxy) and reapply it later.
I highly recommend the getting of some Evercoat Metal Glaze. Great stuff-- a little time challenged but worth the struggle.
So far, I love what you're doing!
This E build is going to be epic, Looking forward to part two Lou!
Looking great so far Lou. The mold maker saved a bit of work running the wires in the mold. It's always interesting to have another go at a model with a few years under the belt in between.
Looking to seeing the evolution of your new build. Wishing you a good weekend and thanksgiving ahead.
This will look incredible when it's completed.
Have a great Christmas when it arrives, take care, and all the best.
She's going to be a big beautiful feast for the eyes. Looking forward to see you build her.
Awesome Lou, a magnificent scale to work well, waiting for the master finale. Cheers
Very excited for this build, nearly as excited as I was for your giant enterprise. I love the sovereign class .
Looking forward to watching the next episode . I love it when you do this type of builds . I love the others too but this type is my favourite.
That's a big model!...I thought my 1/350 "A" was big. 😳
Looking great so far. One word of caution about fiberglass and resin, more resin does not make things stronger. The polyester resin is actually very brittle once cured. The strength comes from locking the glass fibers in place. So easy with the resin it just adds weight and as it cures it will generate lots of heat - wrapping things in the process. Again great work so far. I am looking forward to watching your progress.
Super interesting to see you revisit and dissect your previous work. I’d watch a series on that alone!
Your doing an amazing job on this new kit. The old kit was also a beautiful job, considering what you had to work with, back in the day. Can't wait to see this new one finished......(happy the shirt fits!!)
you should be getting your thank you in the mail soon
I love the look of the Enterprise E and actually saw it last night on Comet TV. The size of this one is awesome. Great work with the fiberglass already Lou. This is going to be a good one to watch.
Another amazing kit!
Good luck with this one Lou! The designer's decision to split the secondary hull vertically rather than horizontally is absolutely insane! The armature is an excellent idea and looks well executed but the wires moulded into the pylons are way bigger than they need to be - much like your wiring! 😆 Having said that, the wires are thick enough that you can use a common ground wire and so potentially have 7 circuits in the pylons. I'm very interested in how you are going to light the secondary hull now you have joined the halves and filled it with armature and wires. See you next week!
Very much a Grail kit these days,you are a very lucky bunny indeed to grab that kit,best of luck with the rest of the build Lou.
To be fair despite its flaws that is one impressive model!!
get a 3/8" tube, and swedge it out. Put on the half inch swedger, and pump it like once, and check. Repeat til ya got a tight fit. I realize this is an older video, and clearly, as I'm just starting the whole build playlist, but that's a good tip for the furture.
I also am noticing your critiques, and they seem valid to me. Let me ask, why not build your own kit? I'm sure it'd sell. I'd get one.
You can get 1/2" OD aluminum tubing at Home Depot that has a fairly robust wall thickness. I used a piece of one to make a flagpole for my motorcycle.
Very cool. I haven't had the joy of building a resin kit yet, but when do I will have a great starting point from your lessons.
I have Richard's last 1/350 TOS Romulan Warbird that he made, It is still in the box. Fiberglass has turned yellow , but it is all there.
you better build it before the decal turns to dust
Happy to see you're back doing what you do best- building Enterprises! It's been too long!
I am sorry to see you tearing apart an old specimen though, but it is interesting to see tech from not so long ago.
It might have been better and somewhat more entertaining, certainly from my old pre-teen perspective, to have taken it out to the backyard and blown it to hell with a bunch of strategically located Black Cats. Ah memories.
not in this neighborhood! all the yahoos wil come running with their long guns out
she's been in the Star-Fleet build yards awaiting her refit & collecting cosmic dust....
but she's gonna shine once more & sail among the stars 🌌
Wow is this kit still available for purchase
Thanks for sharing!👏👏👏‼️
This is one of my Favorite Enterprises, looking forward to seeing this build. Is this kit still available?
don't think so
Lou, interesting project. FYI, while you can use brass and aluminum together without problems, copper and brass react to each other and will cause corrosion over time. You might want to stick with all brass so you don't need to replace anything later.
can you use styrene as a buffer so they don't touch?
@@aztekdummy I suppose you could isolate them from each other with some kind of liner like mylar or other thin plastic. You just don't want the 2 in contact with each other. I made a necklace pendant years ago with brass and copper. I didn't know they reacted to each other and they caused each other to pitt badly.
We used to use a product on cars for body work called duraglass.you mix it like bondo and its fiberglass and gets hard like cement.maybe use that instead of regular fiber glass
Good stuff, but it cures very hard and sands like a rock.
Very nice and thoughtfull build, to bad they dont use models for movies anymore
I would have tried something on the secondary Hull. What about strips of .040 styrene inside the joint? Epoxy the strips to give a “landing zone” for the seam. Fill the joint after epoxying the port and starboard sections together. Maybe epoxy doesn’t like resin. Maybe I am thinking too much Constitution Class. There is no classic pylon on this thing. Is there room to work inside the Secondary with the half’s made whole?
Lou when finished building the Enterprise, you should consider 3D printing the dove and the phoenix from journey to the far side of the sun.
Regarding the gap where the pylon meets the body, what about using white latex chalking? It's white and flexible.
So Lou, what are going to do with the older Enterprise-E 1/650? Will you be selling it?
Super awesome!
Hay Lou big fan of your work. I have a suggestion you may not like at first. Instead of relying on the decals for your life pods why not create some drop in 3d printed ones or if you know someone who can have photoeched one made. It would add a extra level of detail to this kit. Also those two extra wires if you can get the right control board and neopicsle led strips in the nacelles you can have a warp flash effect.
but its a false level of detail. Even on the filming models - back when they still used them - the lifeboats were decals or dry transfers. and that was at a much bigger scale. at this size decals are just fine
Awesome....warped nacelles or warp nacelles? Or in this case, both.
To me, it almost looks like an upscaled version of the AMT model. I had the same problems with the engine section halfs.
If this model is "2nd Contact" was "1st Contact" given a proper funeral? Interestesting build, we can see how the technology of model building has evolved between 1st and 2nd Contacts.
Wow, thanks for showing the original as well as the new build - beautiful kit to say the least.
One thing I am baffled over is the number of wires you have planned - could you have not put a little Arduino in each nacelle and just used one for power and one for control giving future flashing options? Or even simpler would be use a common ground wire rather than each light having its own...
The kit came with the wires already cast into the pylons. Arduino is an unnecessary complication
@@aztekdummy Appreciate they where there but you do not have to pair them off as you did - I always like leaving extra cables in place as you never know what will happen in the future. As for CPU complexity - can you tell I'm a software guy at heart 😂 Chase lights, sync flashing etc etc!
Stay safe - looking forward to part 2
I only put them in pairs to make sure that the black wire in one nacelle does the same thing in the other and so on. What exactly that function will be is not determined yet
Who made the circuit for the Bussard Ramscoops ? I'd really like to either buy or build several to use in a few ST projects. I'm good at designing & making my own vac & resin parts, but not being a superb electronics tech myself, I haven't been able to figure out how to make that hydrogen collecting effect myself. However, if I have a schematic I can build it.
go back and watch the video again. it's all in there
Wow Lou, even taking your time you work like lightning! Really great video and you've done an amazing job. Lots to think about, and inspiration for when I build this kit myself before too long. Quick question, when you glued the two hull halves together before the fiberglass, what did you use, super glue or epoxy?
tacked with CA, then reinforced with either 1 minute epoxy or the fiberglass mesh
When u finishing the holy handgrenade of antioch that's on your desk and how many of the other models on the shelf you rebuilding
i finished one grenade. this one is a spare
@@aztekdummy Brother Maynard never said anything about a second Holy Handgrenade! That rabbits in for it now!
That’s a great looking ship and glad you’re refurbishing her. Looking good. Do they still have these available on the market as a model to purchase?
give Ed a yell and see if he's got any more
holthill@aol.com
@@aztekdummy aahhh you the man. Thanks
so cool! i'd buy the remains of the REL for kit bashing if you're willing to part with it.
where can we get one of these models
Like something leftover from the "Great Burn". So, what was that shiny metal box that looked suspiciously like a speaker box in the 1st Contact? Did I miss it?
that was a converter for the CCFLs. no speakers in this one
Hi Lou I have a couple of questions for you, first I recently purchased a 1/650 Enterprise E and I was wondering where did you get the internal armature for the pylons and do you still make the window masks for the enterprise E? Thanks
@@federationshipyard4073 my armature came with the kit . It was a godsend.all these years later and still no droop. I still make the masks. The price is 150.
@@federationshipyard4073 the masks are for windows and azteks. If you want just windows, I can figure that out for you
@@aztekdummy That would be great because as for now I only need the window masks I bought my model from Marshall Models and it looks awesome but only a few windows show in the mold. By the way my name is Dennis and been watching your videos for years and your work is awesome.
where did this come from? id love to have one.
Are you going to sell the old kit? If so let me know!!!
Hey Lou, did you get a haircut. Enjoy your weekend.
👍👍👍👍
who is the suppliers for that kit, if I am interested in ordering it?
Wowed... where to get this kit?😱😱😱
i don't think its available anymore
@@aztekdummy Oh no.....😭😭😭. Thanks for sharing...hopefully someday it will be available again. 😊
I hope you ejected the warp core, before disassembly - otherwise this will be a short video ;)
Lou'.. I'm interested in the old model you gutted' if your willing to part with it?!?
Is this model going on a shelf? We all know you're running out of space. Maybe suspended from the ceiling? You would have to eliminate the base. Too much trouble?
It's a one for one swap. The new one is going where the old one was. It's a net zero display space wise
Where can I buy this kit? I can not find him. I always only find the small kit from AMT Ertl.
I don't believe it's available anymore
@@aztekdummy: What a pity. I would buy it immediately! :-)
Where to get this kit?
Hi there where do you get your models from please
check the comments below. Ed's email address is listed. see if he has anymore to sell
What kit is this?
I'm sure You will make this ship great again Uncle Lou.......but this kit would be NO BUENO for me......
Don't beat yourself up, some of my stuff would give you nightmares :)
Heya Lou,
Once you’ve stripped all the parts out of this Old Kit, how much will you sell Her To Me For? I’m willing to take Her off your Hands?
Best
Very nice….
👍👍👍