An argument between Viktor Axelsen and Toma Popov.
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the dad needs to stfu. having a attitude isn't gonna help his son
like just grab some baguette with nutella and chew on it
@@ishhimikotony it's not funny and it's never been
@@yonax1004stereotype of a cry baby witth meme pfp, I've seen you in every "french" comment and that is pathetic, hope youre not french or its even worse
@@ishhimikotony baguette + nutella its so insane man ! :p
@@ishhimikotony He's more Bulgarian than French
That "Victor" at the end was so sassy by the umpire
haha, father like tone, especially with the eyes hehe. But yeah he knows that Victor is more of the role model in this situation and he was trying to calm him down I guess.
Coaches aren't allowed to talk during rally that's why Viktor said why is he talking. Man people just love to assume he's rude. He is very sportsmanship player. Just because he gets frustrated and yells a lot he is never disrespectful to his opponent
"During" rally, yes.
It seems like everyone is blaming Popov. But in my opinion, Popov was just expressing his disagreement with the umpire's decision and asking for an explanation. It's normal, everyone wants to win.
And Axelsen should have just stayed quiet. There was no need to get involved in the argument between Popov and the umpire.
thats right.. victor had no business opening his mouth.
That's definitely what I thought
Axelsen has the right to get involved popovs argument is delaying game play
@@sebastiansuarez2378 let them officials handle the situation. They are there for that. And if, if Axelsen wants to get involved (eventho he should not), he should talk to the umpire. Not to Popov.
All I can see is Axelsen seemingly wanting to look good or be a hero by trying to back up the umpire and make Popov look bad for arguing with the umpire. Of course, Popov and his father should not argue that much, but Axelsen should have just shut the f up.
@@gundohing the umpire can't talk in this situation, now should we just leave popov and papa to argue? Just play the game
Oo i wish all asian sport have such clear player voice so we can hear what they talk ❤
Is it invented in England
Europeans are more vocal when it comes to conversing with the umpire and with each other. Asian players, because most can’t speak English that well, prefer to just raise that hands and get on with the game. Entertaining both ways.
I don't think it's about nationality or language... It's Patience.. Humility.
It's rare.
that's one of the reason, the other is asian people are taught to listen and do it.. while western are taught to speak up and discuss..
Including axelsen
Yeah language too, but mostly habit and culture, we tend to ignore conflict... perhaps that's why you european came and colon...............
the education we had in East North Asia is always telling us to obey to the authorities, like son should obey his father or students should obey to teacher, and the obey means you should never ever debate or question their thoughts or actions, even it's completely incorrect 😢
It should be axelsen’s fault for obstruction
In such situations, i always remember Ramon Dekkers, muay thai legend from Holland. He said "just send your opponent to knockout, this is a clear win, without any doubt".
Stupid advice. Dekkers should be in an illegal match of martial arts and enjoy what he said.
Badminton is game of points. Losing point means it sucks OK?
@anhkhung0914 you don't understand what is sport, buddy. Sorry. 🙃
Like father like son...both are Karen of male badminton version
From the moment he appears on the scene I don’t like him his dad or his brother. They come across as greedy as fxxk.
If the popovs can they would be on the tennis circuit more money
Plus they’re not Frenchmen but french citizens, I think they Czech? Just like the other tennis player…
Axelsen being himself quite a spoilt brat he met his match.
@@H_A_L_7Bulgarian. Tbh both players handled this terribly
@@Corrupted_Gamez
True
Axelsen quite the arrogant person himself, though he comes across nice
We all know umpires never take back their decision.. so it is pretty much useless arguing.
What if , it makes an impact on upcoming points ?
he's not arguing ,he's asking what brought this decision (maybe to avoid to repeat the mistake)
Victor's fault for sure. As per rules you can't block your opponet's racquet path as they are hitting the shuttle. This will happen if you preempt your opponent shot at net and stick your racquet in air to block your opponent from playing their shot. It is not allowed.
Once the shot is played only then you can go for block or return on your side of net / court.
This is my understanding, and yet players do that all the time. Why is it allowed?
They should have engle eye for net shots
The argument was between popov and the umpire asking for a reasonable explanation but technically it’s the umpires call. Axelsen did not want to waste time and didn’t appreciate the tone given to the umpire. Toma’s dad was seriously out of line in interrupting the game before serve and such. Popov was called as crossing the net (though he didn’t) and it may have made more sense to call obstruction of play on Axelsen for blocking the kill. I believe neither should be faulted, but regardless it is Axelsens point for the successful return and popov coach should be fined. So in summary the whole tension is pointless it was victors point anyways.
;!
Didn't appreciate the tone given to umpire is a bit rich coming from axelsen. As axelsen always shouts and does his antics against the umpire for their calls, especially the service judges. Axelsen should have complained to umpire about toma senior talking, instead of trying to show dominance and speaking directly to toma senior and playing the high moral card of defending the umpire. Toma junior was totally respectful throughout and was only enquiring from the umpire as any other player would do in such situations.
Word perfect mate
@@Naoki-ge5xpIt is a bit rich for you to recognise Axelsen’s past bad tones to the judges but not popov senior’s interruption. 😂😂😂
@@watchman835 Popov senior is not the player playing inside the court. He can do whatever he wants, and the umpire will take care of it as they usually do by issuing warnings. An on court player like axelsen should not interfere and try to be some sort of savior, which he ain't, as evident from his past shenanigans. Players should not try to antagonise their opponents by such acts. But the Danish have a huge track record of such disrespectful behaviour, which is very sad considering they are one of the best countries when it comes to badminton in Europe.
Oh man. Asian people play straight fwd. No drama. And we still world champion.
Nope. Not at all. It is about sportmanship. Like petergades, he is a great guy who does not complaint at all but this time I think popov is kind of right. He wanted to know what fault was that. But the umpire did not respond and just tell him to get on going.
Umpire said over the net something @@jaymondtang8979
Temperament danish and karen french
You know umpire never take back their decision, never no matter what arguing you want do start with.
In Thomas cup 2024 umpire change his decision multiple time but after some discussion with service judges
Father and son so emotional hahaha
I realized that any sports that western people play it's always going to be dramatic. But luckily badminton not so much western people playing but look at tennis. Tennis players are like 99% western people & look at how aggressive tennis is even though you don't get angry playing tennis but for some reason western people get so angry🤔
Fault is normal call after each point . Whether a player plays a foul or when the shuttle touches the ground.
There was no fault
VA always did the same lol
I dunno bout “goat” but he is a good player
Victor is sassy and don't know why he's rude
Popov isn't wrong to demand for a reason why he is at fault. The umpire should clearly state the reason.. but the father in the end is wrong. Usually player gets yellow card with the rude attitude of the coach.
There’re dramas in Europe sports, always. 😂😂
Ils sont chiants, l'arbitre dit instantanément pourquoi il dit faute "over thé net", et Thomas demande ensuite "quel genre de faute ?" Faut se déboucher les esgourdes.
What’s the fault again? Can’t umpire just tell him?
umpire said: "you have been over the net before you hit"
Be rasional, & just play the game
wish there was a system for coaches or whoever was there for their player. ive seen a few times where the coach are worse than the players attitude on court. this is a fine example of it
Axelsen can never be the greatest with that no-class attitude.
he's the greatest even if you dont like that
ump at the end:
"viktor... 👁️ 👄 👁️ 💅"
First, become a star then act like one.
I think he doing well.. but not longer for career.. just play for your complaint hahaha
I don't think Popov jr was at fault for asking the reason though.
Popov's racquet crossed the net and hit the Viktor's racquet on Viktor's side, that's why the umpire called fault.
@@deepinderbawa7645the umpire need to say this at that moment...
Welcome to badminton debate court. Available only in europe.
Hahaha hallelujah.
Stick to baguette
Fed up with these moving serves eh?
Popov, I do not want to check whether it is him or his brother, should not complain about it. One of them had a lot of luck in these netblocks against several players, sometimes even more than once a game. If it sometimes works against you bad luck for you but keep it cool.
He's not actually complaining, he wants to know what exactly the fault is (e.g. touching the shuttle before it crossed the net).
The dad is complaining and way out of line here.
Please less with the whining, its not tennis 😂
We can tell,,, that's why nothing interesting happened
is whining exclusive to tennis
He had no chance on Victor.
Just issue Yellow Card! 😪🤦♂️
Victor is right but he should remain silent its the umpire he must talk to the father and son.
I think that in that situation, two people are at fault.
1. The umpire for not being clear straight away
2. Toma Senior Popov who acted ridiculously
Viktor had the right to get a bit annoyed at the delay although he did the same at YAE. I think the main cause of it all was Toma Senior Popov. His son however was trying to calm down his dad. Not at fault here
Why victor has right..is he from other planet?
Umpires call was wrong
Viktor trying to white knight. It didn't even concern him.
Sudala enda kuat.. bnyak bising lagi😂
Umpire please explain what is fault. Players just want the truth
What happend? Why VA said " its like yesterday? Does they have an argue in he same condition in another tournament?
Dammit badminton doesn't need a "Medvedev"
French people what else
NO this is clearly Balkanian Mentality, sry to correct you
It was axelsen fault tho 😂
it cant be axelsen's fault, because his racket wasnt over the net, he didnt touch the net and he did not move his racket with the intention to hit popovs racket.
@@sebribo1873 you cant raise your racket to block . Do some research
@@Gegewepe756 do some reading. i didnt say 'raise'
such a french behavior
It's just another stupid umpire who doesn't know how to do thing right.
French behavior🤣
Thomas Popov, Toma Jr Popov and Christo Popov having the same habit.
talk talk talk and talk.
So where/what was the fault?
Luckily it was a racket game.If it was contact sport,V.A will definitely go after the coach and son for being cocky.😂😂😂😂
Man, Axelsen needs to shut up. Unless someone is directly addressing him or when he asked the father to shut up. Why is he trying to get into stuff that's between Popov and the umpire? It's the umpire's job to explain anything, if he wants. Also, this is a bogus argument saying they called the same yesterday. That's not how it works. You don't propagate wrong calls from previous days
If it wasn't clear enough, Axelsen is also playing, and if you need more explanation, he didn't want to waist time
@@iamThe_honored_one all of this are also the umpire's concerns. They are supposed to maintain it. In any case, he can talk with the umpire. Why is he arguing with the player? Oh, and about wasting time and other crap, I remember him doing the same thing against Ginting at the All England this year. Just because he is a good player doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants.
@@nabangshusinha1519 Why do you care so much about their game, it's not like affects you anyway
@@iamThe_honored_one I could ask you the same question. Even more, my comment doesn't affect you and doesn't concern you. At least, as a former competitive badminton player, how the pros behave on the court is something that concerns me very much. In fact, anyone who is a member of the badminton community is concerned with how the pros behave.
Thx for your answer, but the way you replied implies that my question was opposing your statement. I simply asked how this match affects you. What part of my question caused you to feel the need to emphasize your credibility as a former competitive player?
Victor has problem "arguing" with umpire but this hypocrite will rant like a baby when the decision isn't in his favor.
Aint it obstruction?
Popov's racquet crossed the net that's why umpire gave fault
it's the SAME, DUCKING, UMPIRE.
Guys, who won this match?)
Viktor Axelsen.
No the match was won by Toma Junior Popov.
The match is European Badminton Championship 2024 MS SF
.
Toma won
So what is his fault???
I don't like this show 😅
Europeans play with their mouths not with their hands
Popovs dad's always talk talk talk, even between in rally's 🤫🧐🥱😤🤡😅🤣🤪🤥
Lol. It's similar to Japanese women's doubles coach.
He OFTEN gets warning by the umpire cuz he talks too much while the game on.
average europeans....
Bjir drama
Axelson and Antonsen are drama queen
Are we even watching the same video??
FRENCH IS DRAMA.
Popov should be poo poo
S tier commenr
1st learn respect and come to tournament
Ini endingnya Popov menang kan ya?
Kalah 2 game langsung
@@jenojaemin537menang sotoy lu
European player don't have any moral and respect
There was no fault, on Popov side, it was Victor who may have faulted.. Uganda Umpires are far better😊.
Big mouth, small brain.
Tbf Viktor had a much more dramatic reaction at all England 24. But yes Popov’s dad should be quiet during play lmao
Thomas Popov (dad)
Toma jr Popov (son)
Christo Popov (lil son)
they have the same habit. talk talk talk and talk🤣
Axelsen what a hypocrite! U have done so many antics in the court yourself.
Also Popov was simply asking his doubt to the Umpire, that's his right to ask. Mr.Hypocrite Axelsen unnecessarily acting as the righteous one.
And regarding Popov's dad, that's another matter.
ridiculous comment ; Viktor is a gentleman ...
@@Badmintonforalllook at axelsen rage compilation. He smashes racket to floor frequently when he loses...
Axelsen is a real crybaby. No matter how much of an achiever you are, please don't be a professional crybaby.
This all r cheaters victor is bigg cheater who ruined Asian peacful badminton world . He first do cheating n then correct himself to pretend that he has sportsmanship 😂. Overacting victor
Nice entertainment 😀
That’s actually heated but why was it popovs fault?
the umpire explains it, he said popov hit the shuttle while still on axelsens side. not sure if it was over the net but its at least what the umpire thought.just to be clear, than it doesnt matter that axelsen maybe did a faulty block.
Popov misunderstood the meaning.
Fault of unable to return the shuttle back.The empire should complete sentence.End of story.
@@yjl2888the umpire never really shouts "fault" every time a player is unable to return the shuttle.
@@DonBhupi umm im sorry but where did you hear that?
Umpires very often call out 'fault' when players are not able to return the shuttle. Not always ofc but they do it often enough.
@@puppy2350 your question reads similar to how Amazon would ask proof for non-delivery of packages. I said the umpires don't call out fault for failure to return. If they don't even call it out, how can I show you?
Maybe if you can share a couple of videos where umpires call out fault when a player is unable to return the shuttle, that could prove your point.
Viktor is always a Cheat in this kind of game... un-pro !!
stupid comment !