The Sudden Fall of "DrDisrespect"
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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7 Years after the events, (and 4 years after his Twitch Ban) DrDisrespect is back in the news over his conduct in 2017... leading to one of the fastest collapses of gaming stardom ive ever seen.
From humble beginnings, to internet super-status... DrDisrespect is an example of how the court of public opinion can make or break someone in the blink of an eye. What he actually did, and the extent his conduct may always be somewhat of a mystery, but today we discuss the rise (and rapid fall) of DrDisrespect.
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is there any actual evidence he knew about her age and that he actually said anything illegal because otherwise this video is just slander, you really are falling off
im not on doc Ds side or agaisnt doc D what i find is that everyone has an opion,specualtions hearsay etc and the court of public opion is the worst and needs destroying , a few tweets or messages that can easly be modified in this day and age all i say is if there is evidence then let it be for the poilice and the REAL court system and everyone else should shut up plain and simple it has nothing to do with us, as for his midnight sociity company they also shouldnt take the word of anyone untill the court or police issue a statment and shouldnt have let him go from his own company
Did you really just say that the internet is a proper court, and the people in it are a jury? surely you are not that dumb.
This person went to a real court and "no wrongdoing" was established. But you didnt seem to mention that at all. How could someone who took twitch to court come out with a verdict like that? Well using some basic logic there are 3(at least) plausible scenarios.
1. The age of the user was never established in the conversations(most likely was the case)
2. The messages by the defendant (Guy) were benign in nature. As in the messages sent by them are non sexual or neutral.
3. not enough evidence to substantiate the claims of criminal activity or wrongdoing had occurred.
The reason twitch could still ban him is that the messages could still break their TOS regardless of wrong doing or intent.
But of course mentioning any of this ^ wouldnt be sensational enough for the likes and subscribes to keep this channel afloat, right?
Lets also point out a few other facts, this cody guy also was promoting information about this in order to get people to show up at his live event. So he was dangling this information for self promotion. Definitely something a credible person would do right? source: reddit . com/r/Asmongold/comments/1dmqcmm/cody_conners_who_leaked_docs_ban_reason_is/
Another interesting bit is you showed some messages with a content creator(a s*x worker) leena love. you can find her youtube handle at the end of the clip you shared. This person is not claiming THEY were a minor. No what they are claiming is that he was dangling a promotional deal for sexual content. But in the messages she shared there is no such "deal" being proposed. But it doesnt seem like you did any kind of research around this or maybe you omitted on purpose for those likes I mentioned above...
I think you could've done ground . com proud by making the video neutral instead of sensationalizing the content. but that doesn't get people viewing the video does it?
It still sucks that Twitch still didn't do anything despite all this. Texting a minors had always been common ever since they allow Bathtub streams. Even if they DIDN'T let it happen in their Whisper? They can still do in third-party platform.
Dr Disrespect is the bad apple but just one out of millions of rotten apple still laying out... However what sucks is DrDisrespect popularity makes people blind to the one fact...
"This happens in Twitch Whisper"
It can got way worse with many grown women that are hot and texting minors... Even more that's their job...
Don't get me wrong this happens for dudes too like Andrew Tate. But I don't think Twitch allow "hot naked man" more than "hot naked women" So the ratio is obviously more on woman...
theres no such thing as a private message on a platform you dont own
There's no such thing as private messaged period. Literal cops can pull up even textessages on a phone you own regardless of if you own the company or not.
End-to-end encryption!
Use Session
@@Javano_ Edward Snowden showed that Skype had a backdoor which allowed Microsoft to hand over their users' messages to the NSA despite the fact that those messages were officially end-to-end encrypted.
It's an irrelevant point when it comes to social media platforms. Everyone skips reading the ToS when they create accounts, but it clearly states in there that you consent to the platform doing what they want with user data.
He's probably not even a real doctor
Don't say that he did my heart Surgery last year 😂
Fake news!
@@nojabhere Did he go "Yeah, yeah. Yeah yeah yeah"
Beat me to it. 😅
He's a pediatrician, obviously
The Whisper product was supposed to be 18+. So Twitch has some legal issues as well according to some lawyers, especially if a crime was committed.
As I recall, it required the user to accept those terms. Lying about your age voids it.
@@TheSpicyLeg terms are a contract, it's up to the company to make it valid in the first place for the service to be rendered, if a minor is agreeing to contracts then you will find that they are still legally liable.
@@HappyfoxBiz Not at all. Lying about a term on a contract voids the contract. If the contract is implicit that by agreeing to the terms, the user is 18 or older, then agreeing when the user is not 18 voids the legal responsibility of the service provider. The user has broken the terms of the contract by lying about their age.
@@TheSpicyLeg Age verification is a thing. Or should be. But that's up for the legal experts to decide who's actually liable.
This is one of the few times where no statement would have been better than what he did. Posting that twitter thread pretty much sealed his fate.
What you said is only half right. He felt compelled to 'clear the air' in order to continue profiting from streaming. Otherwise he thought his streams would be filled with people spamming nonstop about this. Shows you how arrogant and prideful he was that he got away with it in the settlement years ago. His decisions made out of greed and arrogance were his downfall.
There's nothing he could have done or said to make it better. There is no winning in a situation. We expect people to disprove falsehoods these days.
He should have told Chat GPT to act like his personal lawyer and write up a statement for him. Would have been much better than that mess.
@@GengoSenmonhe of all people should know that chat is a toxic place and it should never be appeased
It would have made no difference what he said, all this would have happened by default.
Twitch is just as liable as he is. They didnt do age verification which is how he talked to her.
That's a much more complicated matter than most people would like to consider or admit. On the one hand, Twitch requires your date of birth. Some people will argue that it's not enough because you can just lie, but I bet the same people would not like their privacy being impacted, which would be mandatory in order to satisfy what they ask for. I believe more robust age verification was mandated in certain states in the US and maybe some countries, and it got loads of flak for being a breach of privacy. In this scenario, it all really comes down to one simple fact: did Doctor Disrespect know or had a reason to suspect that the other party was a minor prior to any of the infringing messages. If no, then he should be entirely off the hook and Twitch is to blame. If yes, then the fallout, while extreme, is not unwarranted.
But dr disrespect did verify her age and knew she was a minor, stop trying to pass the blame
Crazy take dude. He chose to send inappropriate messages to someone he knew was a minor. Pretty weird to say the messaging service is just as liable as him for doing that….
@nomanejane5766 where did he say that? He only admitted that he text to someone that was a minor. Not that we knowly did so
@FreePigeon “no crimes” doesn’t mean isn’t a sick weirdo. The guy has cheated on his wife, messaged underaged women and tried to meet up with them. Are you okay, does the doc have you held captive?
Even though he admitted to texting a minor and occasionally being inappropriate, I still find it really weird that twitch didn't get the police involved. It feels about as legitimate of a callout as Chris Henson. Sure, someone was being gross, but both were simply using those gross actions as clout rather than being genuinely helpful.
because twitch knowingly hired him despite them uncovering this before that. twitch likely told him to knock it off and not to direct message people he didn't know IRL and that for sure was their handle.
Another issue is if he all he did was flirt with the minor in a way like "hey, I think you look cute in a skirt" Etc, well....yeah that is creepy. But technically, not against the law. I assume that is why doc was so adamant on saying no pics or videos were asked to be taken, as well as no physical contact happened.
So unless the messages were him manipulating her to be very sexual towards him, then technically, the cops can't do anything. He needs to cross certain lines for legal action to occur, and even though he likely is a sleeze ball, the law is the law. It's like if an older guy says a little girl is cute with a creepy face. OK, gigantic red flag, stay away from him, but cops can't arrest him for that either. Sucks, but it is what it is. Just my suspicion.
Their brand would have taken a hit for them to admit one of the biggest stars is a creep. They had every incentive to help him cover it up.
@@sultanofswing7198 i doubt its that simple. they got a lot of heat for not giving an answer at all, and they have no issues letting offensive creators go (ice poseidon, destiny, etc). if anything, telling the public hes a predator so they cut him loose wouldve benefit there brand
It's because it's about the money of course they covered up so they continue to get the money
If the situation turns up in a court room there will be heads rolling.
Unlikely to ever happen, large corporate interests that prey on minors usually support and cover for each other, look at the Drake Bell case against the Nickelodeon executive. The man confessed to sexual assault, yet only served 16 months and the majority of people associated with the ordeal showed up in support of him, even knowing he ADMITTED to sexually assaulting a minor.
Didn't he already sue Twitch over this very thing and get a settlement out of it?
@@NuggetsNBAChamps Maybe. But this would cause more people to get in trouble.
Such vague language like "inappropriate" at a time where you can get a 30 day ban for using a word regardless of intent means It has zero credibility to me. For example he could have used the word sex in the context of determining if a dog was make or female and because the conversation was with a minor its instantly flagged as inappropriate...Whats inappropriate is there are no details.
Pretty much, and yet people jump to conclusions. The accusers are being just as vague as Dr.Disrespect, even though some of them doesn't even need to be.
I mean if that were the case, just publish the chat logs and wash your name clean. I'm usually always hesitant when it comes to allegations, and frankly, I don't even know the guy, never watched a single video, but the way he's handling it, being vague as fuck, certainly doesn't do him any favors. If someone accuses me of doing something and I'm not countering that accusation, then everyone else will obviously have to believe the accusation is true.
I can't believe Dr. Disrespect wasn't his real name. I feel so deceived...
Question: why does no one mention the email that further talks about what happened with doc and twitch that came out right before his tweet
Probably because it's not confirmed to be true yet
@t.o.p6849 My problem with that reasoning is that it matches 1:1 with what doc said himself even prior to his post. I get that someone being anonymous doesn't help credibility, but I can't help but notice the double standard in this whole thing.
Also, I have no clue how the whispers worked, but how does one know the age of the person they are talking to using that to begin with unless told at some point?
@t.o.p6849 and the Twitter bullshit is confirmed how?
@@sherlocksvp5537 That doesn't matter anymore. Even if he wasn't aware of the person's age during the exchanges his career has pretty muched come to an end or at least he won't be able to reach the same heights as he used to.
@@Pablud3S Because he admitted to texting a minor.
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Yeah agreed. Fellow upper echelon fan here
It's not allegation, the dude confirm himself that he had "inappropriate" talks with minors.
This. Right. here.
You're intentionally overnighting and exaggerating what he said to reinforce your previous held notions, maybe do due diligence and reserve judgement until any pertaining evidence is released
Dude wasn't "cancelled", he was exposed for being a PDF file. Even then, he still has tons of people defending him. I don't think the majority of you know what being "cancelled" actually means.
20 years ago, some guys and myself were in a club in Miami(21+ to get in, everybody had to ID, no exceptions). One of our group got chatted up by a college girl, looked early 20s and left with her. He got arrested 3 weeks later and has to register for the rest of his life along with the bartender and two bouncers that she went down on to let her slide on the ID. Turns out she was 17 and her parents just couldn’t admit their princess was a 3 oh 4.
Doc is absolutely a POS for cheating on his wife but based on the fact he panicked and blocked this chick tells me he wasn’t a pdf file. I could be wrong but until we see proof that he knew her age and continued to chat her up, I say he’s just a POS cheater.
end career? maybe, peak it, definitely. he's probably still gonna have a solid fanbase to stream to and extract money from. but definitely will need to sell off assets and just put some money in treasury bills to ensure he and his family can cruise out the rest of the way.
Yea he didn’t pull a full on EDP so it seems he’ll have a decent amount of viewers when and if he returns
There's anecdotal evidence that you can be a pretty slimy piece of shit online and still make enough money to live comfortably. See DSPGaming for reference. Pretty narcissistic a-hole who feels entitled to money and admiration on a daily basis, guilt-trips and gaslights his audience very frequently and he's still making more than 100k a year on income post-tax. This will only "end" the Doc if he decides it to be.
That’s small money won’t even be enough for fuel lol
It’s the sponsorships and business networks that keep the lights on
He’s screwed. Lol.
@@JupaNah. He'll probably need a couple of years of quiet like Louis C.K. but he's likely going to be ok. Just look at Kevin Spacey, that dude even has support from his Hollywood pals.
Twitch deserves to be sued into ashes for slander/libel. No. Actually, twitch should be sued for SO MUCH that they are forced to transfer ownership of the company to Doc so that he can release all the DMs and other disgusting shit that everyone on that platform does.
Twitch deserves to be sued for having non existent age confirmation and allowing sudo OF content. Slander and libel against Dr doesn't sound like one of their many offenses.
This is the part people aren't considering.
Twitch swept under the rug the fact that someone who was under TOS age was on their app, and then paid hush money to doc with a legal gag order to prevent it being talked about.
Another often forgotten part of this is how Doctor Disrespect pursued a lawsuit against twitch, which resulted in the settlement. That means that he had something on Twitch to begin with. At no point did he state he was aware that this individual was a minor while he was texting them on an app for adults. It's possible he discovered it after the fact. It's the classic case of hitting on a minor who snuck into the bar with a fake id and being labeled the bad guy. Did he know? If he knew when the inappropriate messages occurred, that means he willfully and intentionally did the wrong thing. If it was discovered between the lawsuit and the settlement in discovery, then it's a bad look on everyone, but he at least has benefit of the doubt.
The reality is that we still don't have sufficient evidence to come to a final conclusion, but that's irrelevant in the court of public opinion - where cases and livelihoods are based on opinions, not a legal process.
Twitch hasn't said anything you dufus, so they can't be sued for slander/libel. It was a former employee that made the first statement and considering DD's company dropped him, it seems there is indeed something there. If you want the DM's released, ask DD to release them, he has all of them and from his own admission shouldn't be bound by the agreement. DD doesn't need to sue twitch to get the DM's, they were part of this original dispute so he has everything...
There are plenty of reasons for twitch to not want this to get out, most of it for realistic business reasons but doesn't need to be nefarious including:
1) The fact that twitch can read people's whispers anytime which they may believe are private
2) At the time this was going down was the whole COPA business, and handling minor's communication would have been a big issue legally with a lot of uncertainty
3) The fact that not only this was a major streamer they had a contract with was sending innapropriate messages to a minor, but organizing a face to face meeting of all places at freaking twitchcon.
4) Twitch is trying to promote itself to be friendly to all ages, instead its a clear indication that predators are on their platform, including people with influence. Not the best message to get out.
5) By stopping DD from meeting this person, they actually helped DD avoid legal issues but in turn made Twitch's case harder as DD switched his stance to "I never meant it, was never going to really meet this person". For the most part, talking to an underage person is not illegal, its when you take the further actions that would have exposed him. (btw if DD thought she was an adult, he could have claimed already that but he hasn't which leads me to believe that he knew she was a minor during at least some part of his conversation).
Those are easy to figure out, and I am sure they have many more reasons why it was better to keep this quiet. I think Twitch was wrong to keep this hidden, but there are plenty of reasons why its a bad business decision to reveal this that don't involve some nefarious intent.
About that post which was edited: I watched a very good video from Legal mindset about that. They suspect that he removed it because Twitch got involved since no minors should have been on that service. Which makes a whole lot of sense.
Note the twitch ex employees broke NDA
which is null and void if twitch was covering up something
@@toomanyaccounts this a legal process to go through to do it
That doesn't matter.he will be protected under whistle blower laws @paulrasmussen8953
@@paulrasmussen8953no, ndas do not allow you to do illegal activity. And using an NDA to do such things is punishable by federal court
@ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440 thus the doc did nothing legally wrong. Otherwose no pay put and no NDA.
Is it that hard not to talk to minors???
Hershel Beam sounds like some Nazi superweapon 😂😂
That’s a bit far fetched lol
@@gavinbeard4026 Sturmhershelbeamwerfer 😂
Wunderwaffe( NS propaganda) no speak German no.. no it doesn’t sry
**Jewish superweapon**
Hershel is actually a jewish name lol
Twitch banned him instead of reporting a FELONY. Chris Hansen would not be pleased.
Does this "minor" girl even exist, btw,?
"Sudden"?
Wasn't this guy cancelled years ago? I've not heard anything about him since he was banned from Twitch and now all of a suddon he's being cancelled again despite (as far as I'm aware) not getting uncancelled from last time.
I don't care for celebrity gossip, and that includes pseudo-celebrities too. Yet my subscribe feed is flooded with crap about this guy over the last few days. It's annoying.
Gotta make money off the drama while the drama is still trending
I had next to no knowledge of this guy prior to this video. I only learned of him when I was watching a video about swatting. What happened to him was wild.
At this point, it's now in Doc's ballpark to have to now provide more details. He doesn't get to come back and pretend he starts from a clean slate since he confirmed it with vague details. If he doesn't, his care is up faster than EDP.
There is still a way it turns out in his favor for redemption if he explains, hopefully with receipts, what the vagueness is and why he is being so vague. Did he know this person was a minor? And what exactly was inappropriate? Was it X rated, or was it like 💀 👶 jokes? But the fact he has been vague in his tweet really doesn't look good. And if it isn't as bad as it sounds, he may have just killed his career over a premature publish by not providing details. And it could be too late with a lot of sponsors.
He thought he could just drop that tweet with no details and was going to come back with sponsors, but he is probably learning the hard way of how PR works.
The fact he didn’t give those details when he could have speaks volumes.
@sultanofswing7198 I know in the beginning when before, during, and after the lawsuit Twitch more than likely gave him an NDA offer that he takes the money and he doesn't say a word about the reason why. I've had those with layoffs, hush money is 100% legal.
But sin e two Twitch employees broke the agreement and spoke it now means Twitch violated so he can speak openly. So he should've had no issue giving the details. There is always the claim that Twitch says they aren't responsible for what employees do without authorization and try to claim the gag is still in effect, but any good lawyer, even Doc could afford, would laugh at that and say nope employees are a representation and extension of the company so it would be on Twitch.
So, at this point, he needs to provide all the receipts, or he can come back from his vacation with all his sponsors gone. No fancy tough guy tweet like "you know me", "they are trying to keep me down", "I'll come back better than ever" is going to help him. Either that dude tells the truth or he better start renting rooms with EDP when his wife takes the kids and alimony. His career is now on the line, if not already over.
I'm hereby declaring you a PDF file, what do you have to say for yourself?
@@bisky-z3s sounds like you didn't read what I wrote
I'm not sure about one thing. Surely, there is a meaningful difference between texting and sexting, isn't there? Yet I see both claims made against him in a very morally outraged way, as if texting a minor is somehow problematic, but isn't texting just basically the same thing as talking or sending a letter? Are we as adults to avoid minors like the plague, any contact or communication at all is inherently problematic?
Tried to whisper to a girl, turns out she was A MINOOOOORRRR
freaky ass streamer he a twitch whisper god
I’ve been subbed since the Fallout 76 uploads and holy cow your channel has grown. Not been a devoted sub but I do remember and watch vids here and there. Keep at it bruther
I've been trying to follow this one. Thanks for doing this. I always enjoy the in depth investigation and succinct delivery.
How the mighty fall eh?
A fall ALWAYS comes after arrogance.
I am on the side of "innocent until proven guilty"
at first, it was all allegations by people who's credibility as inside sources were washed out by an well known bias in the best of cases
but then he openly admitted to knowingly messaging someone who was a minor in ways that were not appropriate
at that point, it's not really an allegation anymore
as far as I'm concerned, his side of the story is closed
Twitch, however...honestly, them covering this shit up is unsurprising, given their obvious biases
He didn't confirm he messaged them knowing they were underage from the start.
In fact he didn't confirm any information or words, only an "inappropriate" vibe.
Dude literally admitted it
Admitted what, precisely?
@@arklaw8306 Texting a minor with sexually inappropriate language. He even admits it was wrong for him to have done that.
Seriously, go pause the part of the video where it shows his tweet and read it. It's all there.
"Sexually"? That word exactly? Weird, I didn't see "sexually innapropriate" anywhere in his tweet so I don't think you're approaching the topic honestly.
Of course making dirty jokes or nono words is bad. Not illegal, a total dick move. But supposing that's all there was is it worth all this outrage?
So did he know or suspect she was a minor and then try to meet up with her? Did he think she was an adult and got played? What was the intent here? its the internet after all, and unless you meet someone how are you suppose to know anything about them? I dont like the dude or at least his persona but I would have to know what was going on with the minor other than flirting with her on the interent. Such as she texted him shes 16 and he was like oh yea baby that turns me on, lets meet up. Otherwise for all he knew, he could have been talking to a 40 yrs old man from Turkey.
Note this was done on Whisper and adult area of Twitch. So minor got onto and adult area
the sudden fall of ''who'' ? 400000 live viewers huh ? amazing that he attracted 0.005 % of the entire population. No wonder I never heard of this guy. Big super star, just like all of these ''creators'' lol
Twitch and a lot of other people appear to have covered up a pedo's crimes while allowing him to talk to children on another platform. Some people need to go to jail.
youre just not that smart, california and fbi did an investigation, no crime was found. Than they had a lawsuit and doc was found at no fault and was awarded his full contract payout.
Did he put it in?
That's not how legal stuff works, and we don't even have any evidence to reliably or accurately measure anything by. So far it's just hearsay, but from enough sources for it to seem legitimate. It was ILLEGAL for him to say anything, and it would be extremely taboo or maybe illegal for others to speak about it as well. So give everyone else a break, they didn't ask to be labeled that by anyone. And they aren't defending it either.
I think there's things we can say about the doc, that he isn't smart enough to say about himself either. The fame and fortune went to his head, completely. 200%. He cheated on his wife with someone younger, and as we now know, chatted with someone else of an illegal age. But we will never know if it is 5 years or just 1; and i really wanna know.
Maybe it is because i am norwegian, but in our country? The legal age is 15, but you CAN sue if you want to up until 18 i believe. If the other party is of a way higher age, don't quote me on that. The real issue here is to what degree he actually was f'ked up. And this is where i actually think it IS ok to not just catch a predator the way you do out in the wild. But it is like 500% blatant proof that "the person" was gonna be "an actual p3do".
In the end, I would or WILL be glad if the evidence showcase him to be blatant. Then this all make sense and the outrage is justified. If it's like this meager bullshit, and the person will turn 18 in whatever short time? Then i am from OUR norwegian cultural norms, actually blown away.
But hey, Americans get to drive before they get to drink so i take this matter VERY seriously but i don't take America seriously anymore.
@@Notfritenite No crime was found..............yet.
@@lonewolf9390 yet? Dude it happened over 7 years ago. Parties involved have already come to a court settlement over it. No criminal charges were filed. That means an investigation occured.
At this point, claiming "yet" starts sounding like a threat, like you want a child to have been assaulted. Like you want wrongdoing to justify your hate. You'd make a horrible judge.
Persona or not says on the name, to the very least one has to be very careful about their actions, cuz as long as fame is involved scrutiny surely will be too.
From .doc to .pdf faster than a minor entering adulthood
Who would have thought someone who cheats on their wife would be like this!?
I hope they revoke his medical license
I seen enough half assed cancelations to wait till all the details are out. We won't know till the actual original transcripts are out.
The question I always ask myself in these situations is: Is the minor 12 years old? Or, is the minor 17 years old? Under the law, it makes no difference. Both situations would be considered a sex crime against a child.
As I am not a prosecutor bound by oath to uphold the law as written, it does make a difference. Creeping on a pre-teen is a very different thing than trying to seduce a 17 year old. One is stupid, lame and pathetic, and the other straight up pedophilia.
What if the minor was 16?
@@Necrotic99 What if the minor was 15? What if the minor is 14 years and 11 months? What if...what if...life is a never ending what if. That is what it means to be an adult. That is what it means to take moral responsibility for one's actions. In this case, the facts don't tell us whether DD is a monster or a creep...or both.
So...I'm going to withhold judgement in this case to know...well, you know...what are the actual facts. Making judgements without facts are for blue-haired holy-rollers and moralistic busy-bodies.
@@Zayphar Wish more people like you were around when this shit happened to me. My accuser came out and admitted to lying, even going as far as saying they regretted making up rumors about me because I was the best friend they had. But that didn't matter anyway because even after they went around admitting to lying I was still banned, hated, and exiled from everywhere and everybody I knew.
@@bisky-z3s how many accusers were accusing you that you had this urge to write "they"? It was either he or she, otherwise you make your language intentionally harder to understand with newspeak
Imagine texting/messaging someone in the modern Internet era with no regard for reality and its potential. Guilty of shenanigans or not is irrelevant. The point is don't do stupid shit.
You will definitely find it hard to believe that I've literally never heard of this person, despite being on Twitch a lot. Must be because I don't care for sports.
"what kind of doctor are you again?"
"pediatrician!" 🤫
That’s hilarious. Well played.
Watch Him come back with the biggest defamation suit and come out making millions yet again
It'll happen. But will it stop the endless tide of clout goblins burning down men left and right? doubtful.
Noticed all his gaming buddies are on really long vacations🧐
You mean have all given statements disavowing him and his behavior? 😂
@@sultanofswing7198 yes, given statements and are hiding
Bro cheated on his wife with a trans if that can be believed. Bruh.
I mean there's the evidence.
Is that the worst part of this to you?
source?
@@JulianDN It's a new low.
@@LaughingMan44 Trust me bro.
Then you remember that Doc is actually one of the more decent modern day streamers.. Shits wild..
Katt Williams was not playing lol 😂
Sponsor read mid video is massively annoying...
Katt Williams warned everyone😂
Really hope he loses his doctors license for this
it sucks bro, he's just an unstoppable horndog
Wait, so we are gonna slide the fact that Twitch had private msg servise with plaintext data that could be seen by all employees? Also the service was 18+ in reqs.
Does anyone remember that song Doctor D? Song got a whole new meaning now 💀💀
I sang it all the time up until this mess.
I must be the outlier.
I have no clue who this person is.
Can't be that important....
I wouldn't fault ya for it. He's a twitch streamer who doesn't dabble in politics that much unless he felt he absolutely had to. So odds are if you watch channels like this, you will rarely have heard of him. But i assure you he's very popular... or was.
You're not alone. I only heard of this guy a few days ago.
Content creators/streamers are absolute nuts. They will destroy each other at the first opportunity, they're all like vultures. How many of them speaking out right now have their own bulk load of dirty laundry hiding. These people are completely nuts.
This channel should be renamed to "Voice of Reason"
you always provide a balanced perspective of things even when its popular to condemn or deny.
"We, the internet jury, find you..."
If you're a male streamer you can no longer EVER say you look forward to seeing your fans at TwitchCon.
It's not worth the risk.
What they never really explained in any of this was why the Dr. Disrespekt g-fuel had so much dye in it. Like, startlingly too much dye, if you know what I mean.
I've always thought the dude was incredibly annoying and I'm glad that I'll probably have to see him much anymore. Good riddance to the career of a crypto scammer and adulterer, regardless of these more recent events.
Too bad he still has the money from his scam, hopefully he'll face charges for it soon though
This is the first time I have ever heard of him but I don’t watch video games videos. I prefer to play video games than watch people play them.
The Skype messages Leena posted included her asking him if he deleted the Snapchat and him saying ya.
"Her"
@@heinrichb not trying to get banned here :P
@@GaffsNotLaffs Fair enough
DR. Disrespect did nothing Wrong; Truth is, he accumulated too many haters who took this perfect opportunity ("inappropriate message to minor") to take him down. Dude is no criminal and deserves a comeback. And I am not his fan either. Sadly for him, he made his success on his Image, and once your Image is tarnished, you are done.
Man, the docs next stream is probably gonna be his biggest
I have DISliked him ever since he admitted to being unfaithful. People like that get ZERO sympathy from me.
Not sudden enough. An annoying unfunny character with an unexplicable amount of edgy wannabe fans. Maybe I will finally start hearing less of him.
just because you don't like the guy is not valid reason to want his entire livelihood to come crashing down
him being a kid diddler on the other hand...
I like how everyone is feeding on his name, mostly using twitch (wow, hypocrites), yet nobody knows what really happened.
Nobody even knows what was said from either of them, he was probably just fucking around and joking
People joking on the internet? UNTHINKABLE!
13:16 how’d you know it’s nighttime bro?
Who else is grippin?
Really good coverage of all this drama...not easy...subbed
The leenalove thing though is 2 consenting adults. The only real bad thing here is texting a minor. Which is a serious thing and should be condemned by everyone
Everybody loves a good downfall. Makes them feel a little better about themselves.
Those who build a pyre for an innocent man without evidence, will too find themselves on that same pyre.
When the random e-celeb you’ve always hated for being annoying and unfunny is finally outed for something legitimate
I never understood why he was popular in the first place.
After watching the most unbiased and comprehensive video on this subject I can definitively say.... I have absolutely zero flaming clue if these allegations are true. I hope he can work through it with his wife and kid though.
That was the exact point I have made to friend arguing the subject.
Unrelated but I like how that one young dude who was the voice actor for Whis or Frieza I forget now but he was a very flamboyant looking dude with blonde hair, Daman something... Daman Mills it was and he had came out on twitter literally one time with texts etc about him being a gay (PDF file), exposed all of the creepy, horrible, and disgusting msgs that made me very uncomfortable & cringe hard alongside of it but yeah NO ONE SAID OR DID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SITUATION WHEN BRO CAME OUT NADA... NO ONE DID ANYTHING TO HIM AND HAD JUST LET BRO GO ON STILL THRIVING LIKE WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??? Man, this world with famous who get away with really creepy stuff like that in plain sight can be thrown off a cliff in a hot basket.
It's one of those weird tough situations where no one can really do anything but when someone who gets literally false accused they're a deadman right on the spot and lose everything I hate that stuff when it happens and nobody saves them like how some people get sent to jail wrongly accused, end up a old man but let go later by the jury saying "you were wrongly evicted, you may go now a free man" yet the actual guilty ones are put here chilling with the next victim... World done, law, and court systems failed hard and fell off hard like school systems when it comes to punishing the right student up against the bully versus defending yourself but never do correctly and it's tragic.
Fake Doctor, Cheating on his wife, Minor attracted & NFT pusher wtf bro.
He'll be back and do fine.. if UA-cam drops him.. He'll just go to Kick
Moral of the story, cheating is one thing. Abusing your position to take advantage of others, even minors is something else entirely. Ive no doubt that if it was just the cheating hed still be successful.
Idk man, I'm not a fan of the doctor, but the instant snap reaction of the mainstream to completely deperson this guy is suspect. I have in no way looked into this tho, just pattern recognition.
There's no other performer like him, and I feel like I'm the only person who values art for the sake of itself. So I think it's tragic that allegations of inappropriateness can destroy that.
Unfortunately speaking from this pov gets a lot of "cope" responses, but I'm trying to cope with losing original art more than anything to do with his character.
I don't have to cope with him being scummy because nothing he did was worse than anything promoted by Nickelodeon or Disney, or every single AAA game studio for that matter. I had to cope when Apex put their agenda flags in a game I loved while the cities burned in the name of those flags. I had to cope with developers I liked being cruel to customers for not being on board with their twisted agendas. I don't need him to be a virtuous person to see his artistic value. Doesnt matter that it's something silly like game streaming; it's original, and his work obviously holds a lot of meaning to his audience.
There are worse people, SIGNIFICANTLY worse people, being let off every day by a dysfunctional legal system. This isn't just a what aboutism. It's just… how much can I really care about one artist being skeezy when there is so much injustice signed off on by the same people condemning him? I cant walk and chew gum, sorry. I'm disturbed every day by lies through omission by powerful people and useful idiots who think they're winning by covering for another crimer. I think your average journalist is guilty of so much more than DrDisRespect is, and that includes the DMs leaked today. That goes for the schools and AAA game companies that will probably retaliate and ban him if he streams their games. Hell, I'm more disturbed by the passive acceptance that it's okay for devs to read our messages freely, despite proving that they'll only use them against us if we make them mad, not if they find us doing anything wrong. If he fooled around with that wo/man, I find that person's actions more disgusting too, for deciding to clamor for the spotlight by "exposing" him for having a weird fetish and showing really embarrassing private messages. But these failures of character and petty revenge get no pile-on by social media, so it must be okay, right
I just don't know how people muster up this much care about his alleged carnal proclivities in a world this twisted. It just seems like everyone's putting on a performance to disavow, like our values have all been decided by the amoral blue hairs we laughed at ten years ago. We have to signal because signaling is what shows you're on the right side. I don't matter so I won't signal. I have nothing to lose by saying that the bar should be exceptionally high for original art to fall to twitch jannies.
His audience should decide his success, but the market isn't free, so it looks like we're having another unique talent squashed by twitch goblins and a moral code decided by TOS and social capital.
Trying to rationalize and justify his actions is a bad look on you, Virus....
Who is stopping his audience from supporting him?
@@sultanofswing7198 I don't have time to write another rant. If I said they're stopping him with force, then I misspoke. I should have said that the response to these kinds of interpersonal issues is to appease social media, advertisers, and investors, meaning that partnerships will be severed, products will be cancelled over those factors rather than what the audience wants. I am in favor of responding to the audience rather than the third parties who only show up when things go wrong.
However, if a public figure continues in spite of the controversy, that is usually when you see a heavier hand, in the form of bans, partnerships against them, and tortious interference
alright that became a rant anyway bye
Im very curious to see the whispers.
L. E. After seeing the messages, the way he (if it was him, the Doc) replied seemed not like him, like very childish.
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Drake entered the chat:
Dr. Dispespect sold my dad fentanyl.
People find social media Influencers credible? 😂
No wonder the majority got the Covid jabs
hahaha big facts.
I've been watching YT since 2005 (or whenever Google bought it) I watch about 4-6 hours a day and I game about 12 hours a day. I've never heard of DrDisrespect.
just a minor mistake...
Bruv...
Or....a mistake with a minor...
🤣🤣🤣
I see what you did there
A miner mistake caused it to collapse.
Social Media: The high school nobody ever graduates from.
I'd say social media is worse. In high school at least, you can and will get punched to the face if you act like an asshole. In social media, this is not the case for most people, allowing people to run their mouths without restraint.
You *CAN* quit though.
@@ジャン-エリック just ignore it. Don't be sensitive. Getting violent is for feminine men.
With the mentality of elementary and education of kindergarten.
Glad I graduated and got the F out of there years ago.
I wonder why twitch would sign him to an exclusive contract in 2020 if they knew he was talking to a minor in his private messages. Seems off. The whole thing seems weird.
I'm not sure of the timelines but I'm pretty sure the only reason they HAD to sign him was because they were under the threat of mixer. Once mixer was no longer a threat and they had something in their back pocket to use against doc, they pulled it. Obviously it became a game of chicken(you don't want your audience to find out, no, you don't want YOUR audience to find out), I think doc called the bluff, knowing what he'd done was wrong but not grounds to terminate the contract.
I'm honestly not a fan of doc but I was back when PUBG was relevant. I think he still feels a lot of guilt for that 2017 era and he didn't want to deflect blame, but at the same time he doesn't feel that he should be crucified for this so his "apology" came off as very standoffish.
It's an interesting dilemma if we assume all the worst, what is an appropriate response here? I don't think any sacrifices have to be made. As long as he does his mea culpas and clears up the ambiguity, I'd rather not see him be deplatformed.
Here's an explanation that actually makes sense: Twitch banned him because they hate him. Ask anyone who watched at the time, or find the drama from when Twitch would shut off his stream or suspend him for bogus reasons. The banning was a snap judgement.
Later, in court, they CLAIM the ban was from some DM's 3 years earlier. Why do they claim this? Because they're trying NOT to pay him millions of dollars. You know what that means? It means those DM's to that one person are the worst thing they could find on his whole account. And as the Doc said, the state found no wrongdoing and those DM's were not a valid excuse to terminate contract. People just don't understand how civil court works, and for some reason think Twitch lawyers making a claim in court makes it true.
This is the first video I have seen that just lays out the timeline, allegations, and background. Short, simple, and to the point. No "reaction", no "how I feel" or "what I think".
Thank you.
And a huge ad read in it too! High quality stuff!
@@pocketaces6756 mans gotta make money, I just fast forward past it. No biggie.
@@dbrownick I hear ya. He really didn't add anything that isn't already in 100 videos, but he did do a quality cash grab. I enjoy UE content, and I really don't care if he made one just for the money, which is what he did. I just think we should all be honest about it.
@@pocketaces6756 Just going to point out that If you didn't care you wouldn't be making comment like that. Let's be honest about it.
@@overlordshiina I don't care, just thought that it needed to be pointed out. I am a UE fan. Obviously not as big a fan as you are. It should be in the open, what's wrong with that? I don't see why you are coming at me for saying it out loud? Obviously you "care" a bit too much. Kind of like how the Doc Stans care way too much and will never believe he did anything wrong. It's just sad.
The suspicious thing to me is, why didn’t this get brought up to legal authorities if it happened in 2017?
Someone went back to find them. Its just bytes of information so it wouldn't be difficult to hold that data for years.
I believe I read once some ISPs will hold onto your search history for 1-2 years.
because its nonsense that is why
Because he didn't actually do anything wrong,a court of law saw the transcripts of the conversations with this minor and found no wrongdoing. Nothing he did warranted a ban from Twitch. That's why Twitch had to pay out his contract.
@@dealspeed6756”he didn't actually do anything wrong” The man sent inappropriate messages to someone knowing they were minor.
Company's don't want to deal with the government.
I dont watch him, but it was a wild ride; ngl
Lesson to the kiddos, dont idolize celebs or get too friendly with them; in the end, theyre strangers
And apparently as most UA-camrs and streamers who leave the internet they're either degen losers or fans of the playgrounds. Disgusting.
Also, don't be famous because you'll be entangled with scandals that public would noticed. No matter how long it would be revealed.
@@multilad816 *don't become famous if you're into kids and act accordingly
FTFY
@@ColdEmperordon't hate the player hate the game😢
as he said, never meet your idols
"The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built, that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ~ Eric Schmidt
A mind set in its ways is wasted.
@@DavionAngeles
"An open mind is is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded." ~ Space Marine Librarian
It's all Al Gore's fault
"Remember America, I gave you the Internet and I can take it away.”
Literally an experiment.
@@buckrodgers1162 it’s your online diary for the government to read.
doesn't this just erode at any kind of trust for twitch's messaging apps/features?
knowing they don't have any kind of leash on their employees after the fact and you can just have your privacy blown up by the people they chose to be their moderators? do any other apps have problems like this?
I think it's an important reminder that any communications you have with anyone is never private unless done over an end-to-end encrypted method.
@@Nonsense116 You're not guaranteed safety with end-to-end, at least for not much longer. In Australia a law was passed last year that grants police back door access to social media apps.
@@user-og6hl6lv7p
Depending on what you use, that law is useless if the app is purposefully designed to not keep user private data on hand accessible. The police can have a back door to it, but if it leads to nothing, then it is useless. This isn't the first time government has passed a law like this, certain communication services was designed for things like this.
Anyone who still trusted Twitch even before this will trust them regardless of what happens.
You have to be deliberately indifferent to Twitch's enforcement of their own rules to trust them in any fashion.
Your social media private messages were never private in the first place. In fact, the government wanted Elon Musk to hand over Trumps Twitter DMs. It’s an illusion. The only people that have access to your private messages are you, the receiver, and the company.