I feel like this comparison is a little janky. Nearls S2 is more comparable to Skadi S2 (which benefits from her second module rather than her resurrection module with is great with her S3) and Surtyrs S3. These are all helidrop skills whereas Nearls S3 is more a sustained deployment skill like Skadis S3 and Surtyr is basically only useful as helidrop
Problem is that this comparison hardly takes into account that their ranges gets extended Nearl alter s2 is just a better skadi s2 in every way so it being in this comparison would kill skadis entire chance And surtrs extended range being included on this comparison would drastically change the outcomes in all of these events
@@kyarumomochi5146 Except their kits aren't the same. Skadi S2 with her module is much faster, and thus more flexible as a helidrop, than Nearl and Surtr. Skadi and Nearl also have the advantage of being able to remain on the map and be useful, Surtr is only really used for her S3 which force retreats her. Plus, the difference between starting SP for Nearl and Skadi is only 5, so why wouldn't we compare Skadi's most powerful skill with Nearl's most powerful skill? For example, Skadi's S3 would have allowed her to get a few more hits in on Patriot despite is multi hit.
@@awesomesauce980 Skadis module hardly fixes her problems Deploying a trash operator 4 times more than a good one that can get the job done in first deployment isnt a good thing sadly Also nearl s2 doesnt let her stay in the field And my argument about their skills were completely different than what you are talking about
It's just kinda sad that Skadi's S2 basically doesn't really have any extra survivability perks like her S3 which also increase her Max HP instead just her ATK, but she is still useful for me as a "helidrop" with her S3. It gives so much more for her survivability and skill duration. IMO it's kinda unfair for Skadi when you use NTR's 3rd Skill when she (NTR) also has 2nd skill that is quite like Skadi's 2nd Skill. We want to see the difference between Physical Dmg v. Arts Dmg. v. True Dmg. on "helidrops". Of course Surtr S3 can be considered as a Helidrop, you only need at most 5 seconds after deployment to be able to activate her skill. But, can NTR S3 really be considered as a helidrop while you also need to wait 15-20 seconds post-deployment to use her skill? What about her 2nd skill that really makes her a real helidrop? Drop her, Instant skill activation, watch the enemy suffers and die, done. Finally, I mean no harm/hate with this comment. I just want to give my opinion and I might be also wrong. Thank you for reading my comments. I truly enjoy your videos.
Yeah, NTR skill 2 is definetely hellidroppable, but like you said I wanted to compare the true damage. If you want to make NTR S3 true helidrop, you can put Liskarm next to her and use Aak S3 on Liskarm right after you deploy NTR.
@@BoostStreams uh, in normal situations I don't think you'd be bringing both aak and liskarm just for nearl. It is a bit unfair considering true damage is inherently op by ignoring defensive stats completely. Sure we can see that the true damage is showcased but these two are very much helidroppable with no setup while your method requires a setup. It's only fair to use nearl S2 here
Shit take, it is literally the title and theme you talking about. If u want to compare skadi s2 and nearl s2, then do it yourself or watch video about it
Can you also do a test with team talents? ntr and skadi can get a lot more damage with it, and AH and Kazimierz teams have very good survivability and wave clear
here we go again how long was it when the last battle between them was made about 1 year now lmao now after watching it imma say skadi is really in a disadvantage here her sec module work better for her s2 while her first is better for s3 and im not really suprise on ntrk result bcause first im a simp of her so yeah shes e2m9mod3 max and second is i often wram up with patriot using mud and ntrk and within sec i saw the big diffrence on her kill time and consistency using that as my base i can really tell her damage went up and on surtr is surtr yes shes not the most op ops now but her consistency is still the same i argue shes the most consistent between those three
What do you think Surtr's module is going to be like? I'm guessing one of them will increase her RES ignore and will focus on her doing more damage and the other will increase her survivability somehow.
Great video! I've been watching your videos for some time now and am honestly surprised how little of an audience you have. Hope your channel shines soon. Also I think it would be better to test skadi with the abyssal buffs too. Unlike Aak or Warfarin buffs abyssal buffs activate without doing anything so I don't think it would count as cheating. Contrarily, not using them could be seen as injustice against skadi, too. Since it's her passive and all.
I think the main difference with Nearl s3 and skadi s2 is that skadi is still a helidrop for lower defense bosses. All of them have niches no matter how small, but NTR true damage is a lot.
Full buff skadi is not nesessary about buffers but bring the entire abysal hunters But and rhe buffers but it will broken I MEAN SKADY CAN GO 200% HEALTH WITHOUT S3
Are you going to do this again when you can now have the Orignal and the Alter Operators in the team in the future? So that the buff Skadi will have the same buffs as her competitors because they had Skalter buff
Nearl and surtr are clear winners as nearl legit just powercreeps skadi Surtr will probably forever dominate this niche as arts damage and multiple attack and immortality and everything else is just broken while nearl will be a close second Also problem with your comparison is that you dont even take into account their skills Surtrs extended range and nearls increased range makes comparisons much different
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I feel like this comparison is a little janky. Nearls S2 is more comparable to Skadi S2 (which benefits from her second module rather than her resurrection module with is great with her S3) and Surtyrs S3. These are all helidrop skills whereas Nearls S3 is more a sustained deployment skill like Skadis S3 and Surtyr is basically only useful as helidrop
Problem is that this comparison hardly takes into account that their ranges gets extended
Nearl alter s2 is just a better skadi s2 in every way so it being in this comparison would kill skadis entire chance
And surtrs extended range being included on this comparison would drastically change the outcomes in all of these events
@@kyarumomochi5146 Except their kits aren't the same. Skadi S2 with her module is much faster, and thus more flexible as a helidrop, than Nearl and Surtr. Skadi and Nearl also have the advantage of being able to remain on the map and be useful, Surtr is only really used for her S3 which force retreats her.
Plus, the difference between starting SP for Nearl and Skadi is only 5, so why wouldn't we compare Skadi's most powerful skill with Nearl's most powerful skill? For example, Skadi's S3 would have allowed her to get a few more hits in on Patriot despite is multi hit.
@@awesomesauce980 Skadis module hardly fixes her problems
Deploying a trash operator 4 times more than a good one that can get the job done in first deployment isnt a good thing sadly
Also nearl s2 doesnt let her stay in the field
And my argument about their skills were completely different than what you are talking about
It's just kinda sad that Skadi's S2 basically doesn't really have any extra survivability perks like her S3 which also increase her Max HP instead just her ATK, but she is still useful for me as a "helidrop" with her S3. It gives so much more for her survivability and skill duration.
IMO it's kinda unfair for Skadi when you use NTR's 3rd Skill when she (NTR) also has 2nd skill that is quite like Skadi's 2nd Skill. We want to see the difference between Physical Dmg v. Arts Dmg. v. True Dmg. on "helidrops". Of course Surtr S3 can be considered as a Helidrop, you only need at most 5 seconds after deployment to be able to activate her skill. But, can NTR S3 really be considered as a helidrop while you also need to wait 15-20 seconds post-deployment to use her skill? What about her 2nd skill that really makes her a real helidrop? Drop her, Instant skill activation, watch the enemy suffers and die, done.
Finally, I mean no harm/hate with this comment. I just want to give my opinion and I might be also wrong. Thank you for reading my comments. I truly enjoy your videos.
Yeah, NTR skill 2 is definetely hellidroppable, but like you said I wanted to compare the true damage.
If you want to make NTR S3 true helidrop, you can put Liskarm next to her and use Aak S3 on Liskarm right after you deploy NTR.
@@BoostStreams uh, in normal situations I don't think you'd be bringing both aak and liskarm just for nearl. It is a bit unfair considering true damage is inherently op by ignoring defensive stats completely. Sure we can see that the true damage is showcased but these two are very much helidroppable with no setup while your method requires a setup. It's only fair to use nearl S2 here
Shit take, it is literally the title and theme you talking about. If u want to compare skadi s2 and nearl s2, then do it yourself or watch video about it
Imagine if skadi's module refreshes her skill upon death
texas alter treatment fr, except with death and not defeating an enemy
You should do this again after gladiia module drop next month.
How much dps would skadi do if she had the other abyssal hunters boost like andreana and spectral talent?
Can you also do a test with team talents? ntr and skadi can get a lot more damage with it, and AH and Kazimierz teams have very good survivability and wave clear
here we go again how long was it when the last battle between them was made about 1 year now lmao
now after watching it imma say skadi is really in a disadvantage here her sec module work better for her s2 while her first is better for s3 and im not really suprise on ntrk result bcause first im a simp of her so yeah shes e2m9mod3 max and second is i often wram up with patriot using mud and ntrk and within sec i saw the big diffrence on her kill time and consistency using that as my base i can really tell her damage went up and on surtr is surtr yes shes not the most op ops now but her consistency is still the same i argue shes the most consistent between those three
What do you think Surtr's module is going to be like? I'm guessing one of them will increase her RES ignore and will focus on her doing more damage and the other will increase her survivability somehow.
Not sure, but res ignore would be really cool.
True dmg burn, +100 atk boost, +50 atk spd would be nice.
Change to true damage, stun enemies and remove HP reduction.
Great video! I've been watching your videos for some time now and am honestly surprised how little of an audience you have. Hope your channel shines soon.
Also I think it would be better to test skadi with the abyssal buffs too. Unlike Aak or Warfarin buffs abyssal buffs activate without doing anything so I don't think it would count as cheating. Contrarily, not using them could be seen as injustice against skadi, too. Since it's her passive and all.
That totally slipped my mind.
I think the main difference with Nearl s3 and skadi s2 is that skadi is still a helidrop for lower defense bosses. All of them have niches no matter how small, but NTR true damage is a lot.
I have a bunch of MODS to do so Radknight will have to chill at MOD2 but she's already really solid.
Very solid.
Full buff skadi is not nesessary about buffers but bring the entire abysal hunters
But and rhe buffers but it will broken
I MEAN SKADY CAN GO 200% HEALTH WITHOUT S3
Great vid
Thanks!
yoo skadi got her second module, and would you include their module upgrade in their next round?
Are you going to do this again when you can now have the Orignal and the Alter Operators in the team in the future? So that the buff Skadi will have the same buffs as her competitors because they had Skalter buff
I don't think so lol that would be a lot to redo. But I do have something planned for that.
skadi neads her AH team
thanks for the vid
cool, but skadi should be with at least with gladiia
what is boost potential?
I don't understand why you use Skadi s2 and not her s3. It's very unfair.
Skadi s2 give more atk boost than her s3.
@@pramaaa29 It does, but her s3 is longer which overall does more damage than her s2
Nearl and surtr are clear winners as nearl legit just powercreeps skadi
Surtr will probably forever dominate this niche as arts damage and multiple attack and immortality and everything else is just broken while nearl will be a close second
Also problem with your comparison is that you dont even take into account their skills
Surtrs extended range and nearls increased range makes comparisons much different