V12 S65 AMG Makes Huge Numbers From New Tune! (Dyno Tested)
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2023
- Finally got a tune for the S65 and we immediately took it to TPG tuning for a dyno session to see the WHP before AND after the tune! The car makes HUGE numbers, especially the torque!
Thank you to my Velos Designwerks for the awesome tune! Check them out here: velosdesignwerks.com
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Hey Mike, long time viewer from Saudi, love your content. The thing with S65 vehicles is that the TCU limits the engine output to protect the transmission. If you tune both ECU and TCU you will see gains of over 100 rwhp and 100 rwtq EASILY!!
Best of luck man beautiful car
EDIT: Eurocharged for example does ECU and TCU tunes for AMG vehicles, not sure who else does it from the tuning companies but Eurocharged for sure.
Much love Habibi
I think so to
Then you will probably kill the transmission.
Correct. Whether it adds more HP or not, its always good to do an TCU tune as well, i always do on my German cars. Audi's
@@TheRealBobMarleyHabibi 😂😂😂👍
Loving the S65.. Can’t wait for that straight pipe.
ay man i just started watching but i cant stop, youre amazing man. and a great father. i wish i had a role model like you!! keep pumping out these videos
I got no words !! Wonderful car congrats on the tune.
Its going to sound amazing when the exhaust gets done
Glad you waited to do the exhaust. The way your modding this car is a great way to enjoy it and not get bored.
Glad you're back in the AMG!
That’s a sweet ride Mike. Can’t wait for the exhaust! 👍💪🔥
Autovlog Awesome Video I think it's awesome that your AMG S65 made such great power after the Velos tune and I can't wait to see how much it'll make being Straight piped
2:05 I would have already mentioned this method but I just KNEW you had already tried this out 😂😂
Love what you do for testing this Merc.
Man it really opened her up!! I can't wait to get my ride and rip it up like this!! 🤙🤙🤙
Hi Mike, about drivetrain losses, its not a percentage. So if you gained 30whp it doesn’t mean you gained 60 crankhp. Drivetrain losses is a fixed number, gaining more power to the wheels doesn’t mean you lose more power in the drivetrain. You made 533whp so it means you have around 90hp loss in the drivetrain for the specific gear what means now with 554whp you making around 645crankhp. I have a tuning company in the EU and here we measure crankhp by putting the car in neutral when coasting down so that the dyno can measure the losses in the drivetrain so no guestimate, its pretty accurate. The tuning can be done much better on your car, a stage 1 should atleast add 50hp. Anyway beautiful car and great vids, keep it up!
Congrats on the new found power Mike !👍🏻👊🏻
Im guessing 520 to the wheels. Maybe little less. Still big numbers stock. Sound sick man i cant wait to hear it with the new exhaust set up. You always bring something LOUD!
Autovlog back on Top Form! Way to go Mikey 👍🙂👍🇺🇸🇬🇧🇸🇪
As the ECU adapts to the tune's new parameters, it will become even more responsive and pull even harder
Yep. Was going to say this. The tune has to break in too. When you get the exhaust done and do another before and after I bet you find another 40 hp plus in her. She sure is purdy. I have a 15 E400 coupe 4mattic and love it. A tune is coming. Lol. Respect brudda.
This is what dodgy tuners tell customers that ain't happy 🤣 pretty sure this has CPC torque monitoring so no matter who tunes it unless you replace CPC you limited
@therivalryan Maybe dodgy tuners have fed you some BS but I'm a Mercedes-Benz master tech. Mixture adaptation takes time to happen with any change or reset in ME software or even engine replacement. As the mixture adaptation optimizes, so does the power delivery
@@d_63vern29 You won't see any real difference in power from this, you should know if your a master tech.. Maybe if you had issues like air leak etc. though this is completely different. The car might be a bit smoother but you aren't going to see or feel a big difference from this.. that's not what its for. Also if your a tech you'll know you can reset mixture adaption on xentry, HFM drift compensation etc etc.though again it's not needed here, same parts still fitted in car maf etc etc. if you understand how a tune works then you would know this..
@therivalryan Yeah, okay Mr. etc, etc, etc. Sounds like you're just trying to sound knowledgeable about something you know very little bit about. Make some more edits to your comment after you google search again...cheers
Would’ve been cool to see a before and after 60-130! Beautiful car!👌🏽🔥🔥
Driving home after I got my car tuned the more I drove and the car "learned" the quicker it felt. First car I overtook the car shot forward quicker than I thought it could. Best thing I ever did to a car,
TPG Tuning is good peoples love those guys
That's a beautiful Mercedes, love the coupe.
Thats without intakes, downpipes and exhaust, can’t wait to watch this build come together.
Great video thats an awesome car 🔥
Best car you’ve ever had Forsure love it dude!!
You need a dp and intercooler for sure, need to do a crazy build with this car. You can do it!
Have been watching you a while and just realized you are also in Pittsburgh! Great car scene here. Would love to run in to this beast one of these days. Love your enthusiasm!
From one wheel peels to two wheel squeals, awesome sauce 👍🇺🇲😎
What you're seeing outside is the smoke from the fires in Canada... Great dyno runs!
I suggest you get ROW air box. I'm not sure if it's like the W204 with charcoal filters, but that might help pickup some more HP. Love the S65 coupe!
Nice video keep up the good work Auto Vlog
It probably wasn't fog, it was smoke from the fires in Canada 😂😂
It is
Yessir! We finally got rid of it in Indy after some good t-storms
Yea we had it in Kentucky yesterday looked foggy all day.
@@travisbodemann7847
Did it clear out for you as well?
Yep you're right. I'm in Pittsburgh and it just finally started clearing up today.
Mike, I up your way on a vacation in waynesberg ,pa staying at my wife aunt's house. And it's my wife's birthday today. She still younger than me..... Replay back if you get to see this . The tune works!
Nice work. That is good from just a tune!
Great video Mike!😸
Love the wheels - Great purchase. I misted that episode.
Congrats on your S65! I got my CLS 63 AMG tuned by Renntech, and now it's in beast mode.🤣
Did you get any exhaust mods done? I'm thinking of doing the same on my CLS63, but I don't want to ruin the sweet OEM sound, I just want to amplify it.
Så glad att du har en AMG igen :) Dina videos på denna bilen har varit dunder
Man this really is all the car you need, i sure wish to own one some day
Wow man.....!!!! Pulls like hell man. Welk done. Please do a dounut video, coz i see it now spins in both wheels. 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Before you fast forward in the video 😂 I was about to lol I’m kidding love the content!
TPG Tuning and Distinct Automotive (both out in Export, PA on the same street) are both awesome. Distinct did the ceramic coating on my Raptor and it turned out great and was very reasonable!!
I just wanted to say “those wheels look so good” !
I’m pleased you’ve moved away from black / grey
The silver/ alloy are just awesome
Do not underestimate that amg v12. That motor is capable of 900hp+ if you know the brabus s900 rocket edition, you will understand what I’m referring to 😎 that car has so much potential @autovlog
Those are great numbers considering it’s a mustang Dyno! Awesome. Turbo upgrade time
Madd luvv from Kenya🇰🇪...I'm one of ur OG fans,
Can wait for the exhaust sir!
Those wheels are 🔥 but I can still see the different shade of silver on the left rear quarter
Goosebumps ❤
Hay Mike! Awesome video like always. Can't wait for the straight pipes 🤗
One stupid question, at the end of the video.... there's a some kind of SUV between de AMG and the RS7? 🤔
I think you should do some down pipes they normally give you a good jump in power on turbo cars.
The New Wheels Are Sick!
I’ve been there before. Well next door. There is a tint shop right there. Had a car done there a few years ago and watched an E36 get run on the dyno. Pretty cool
Distinct Auto does great work! They are the best in the area in my opinion. They moved to a bigger building in the complex when you enter now. They used to be next to TPG.
Nice! Mustang dynos are notorious for being a little stingy on power numbers but gains are gains!
Awosome! Next the dragstrip! Lets see what it runs after exhaust!
First ever 900hp S65 sounds so good for that car
TPG Tuning is on Pontiac Ct in Export, PA. It was named Pontiac Ct because of Fisher Pontiac who was at that location for many years. My dad bought a 64 Pontiac that I totaled in 65 from them. Brings back great memories.
Awesome! I live in Export and I’m friends with all the TPG guys and had no clue. I will have to tell them.
My favorite out of all the cars, even the 812.
Just Great to see you BIG SMILE every time you drive it. 🎊🔥🔥👍💙😂😂
My 2015 cls63s made 620awhp/780awtq from a base of 487/530. Race IQ for the win!
That was smart to build the dyno room away from the shop
When you get the exhaust you should get another run to see where the car is at after it adapts and then put the exhaust on. Nice car man!
love your car and videos. However, I would have to agree with subscribers on a prior video that the paint look off on right rear fender. I would take it to a paint shop and have them look at it. LOVE the car!
Awesome car awesome video!! 🏁 It looks like was a mustang dyno mustang Dyno's are know to reads lower #'s.. either way 700+ lbs of wheel TQ is STRONG!!💪
A good friend of mine has a CLS 550 with a rentech tune and I totally understand what you say about Mercedes power delivery it's something different!!💯😁
I bet this video gets a ton of views. This is sick
It’s crazy that’s the same motor in the Pagani 🔥🔥🔥🤟🏾🤟🏾🤟🏾
Sick!!
Please please please take this to the vintage Grand Prix in Oakland!!! I gotta see this car
Really enjoying your mods on your S65 ! We’re you thinking of a stage 2 tune later that includes bigger turbos .
Velos uses a very conservative tune. You can definitely gain more just from tuning.
You have to review a couple of those cars. Especially that ZL1
Hey nice video again.
I'm curious about something. Is that a Hyundai Tucson on the driveway?
i would love to see big intakes and turbo noises ur not gonna have much but it would make it alot more exciting and fun
Literally my dream car bruh damn 😪
Hey Mike, once you installed the FI exhaust on your S65, will you be adding a crackle tune?
New upgraded filters, royal purple oil or amsoil, and 94 octane fuel will give you another 15-20HP at mid-to-high rpm above the ECU tune and TCU to unlock more power thats limited from factory. I believe Renntech has transmission upgrades (722). S65 is beautiful, perfect summer daily, winters would be better with an S63 (4matic), or one of your trucks 😂
My 2014 E63 wagon did 551Hp & 700T after stage 1 tune on a mustang dyno. Got 11.6 in the 1/4. Think I could a little better. Of course it is awd. Get a 1/4 mile run when your done with the mods. I’m in Ca and can’t mess with the exhaust.
Great vid 😀 I guess reductions in transmission losses are where manufactures have been picking up fuel savings over the last few years. Over 80% of the power and torque getting to the wheels on an rwd automatic is pretty high compared to years ago. That improves performance and throttle response too, and, I guess, even handling in a well set up car. Fun times, thanks for sharing!
I dont think there is any big improvement in transmission losses since the 90's for the same type of transmission.
What they have done is to have more gears.
@@martinsvensson6884 right, yeah. So, as far back as that then, I know that before that it was low 70s for a rwd manual, and I always suspected even worse for an automatic. At some point it started to improve. Obviously more gears help with economy and acceleration etc,, and lock up torque converters help with efficiency too, but I wasn’t sure when these transmission loss improvements came in. I know that for BMW the x-drive system was a big step forward for their 4x4s. I would expect that 4x4s in general must suffer the worst of all. I wonder what the figures are for a 4Matic S63, for instance.
@@paulcruse When I started reading swedish car mags in the 90's it was always stated approx 10-15% loss for a manual and 20% for an auto. Could of course vary much more. But that was total loss. Gearbox is just part of that.
So I dont think improvements in the gearboxes the last 30 years has given any really big improvements. That would be in the single digit % in that case.
More gears is a much higher contributor.
@@martinsvensson6884 Cool. I remember that a 70s manual Ford Capri in Europe had 72% of its power getting to the back wheels, so I guess it was somewhere between then and the 90s that these gains were made.
@@paulcruse There are other things than the gearbox that can steal power also though. I know that, at least in some countries back in the days, they stated engine power output without accessories like water pump and stuff that like.
Dammit bro, now I want a v12 s65! When you add the exhaust it will be insane and your neighbors will be even more angry lol
Original tittle should be: “S65 picks up 20whp with tune”
You could hit up Eventuri to see if they will do some custom 1 off new carbon filters too to add some extra induction noise once the the exhaust arrives maybe?🤔👌
This is my favorite car you have had on the channel. Just my 2 cents
I believe that the mustang dynos are down on numbers also. Might want to look into that. That fog/smoke fay was crazy here in the Burg
You need a CPC tune to unlock full potential. Also a upgraded inter cooler pump.
Congrats on the purchase! I've been following that same car since it was for sale in New Jersey. Love the bengal red, HATED those wheels. I'm looking at two other examples of the 2015 S65 coupe and was wondering if you've looked into the 50k mile service. Dealer told me to expect $10K. Does that match anything you've seen or heard?
Do the service on your own. If you have basic know-how, you can save thousands.
My guess is the cats plus tranny is restricting additional power gains. You’d need to decat and go stage 2 on the ECU plus a TCU tune to get big gains.
Dope!
im addicted to the channel, its a crime i haven’t subscribed yet
I mean, it's a button press away
MB V12 cars love 100 octane unleaded and will produce significantly more hp/tq with that fuel in the tank. Totally safe and will not harm the cats or 02 sensors. It would be cool for you to try it and dyno again. I have owned an '03 S600 and '06 S65 AMG.
TCU tune is also part of the Renntech tune I used on my V12 MB cars.
How is the velos tuning working? Is it changing values or coding in the powertrain ecu?
Tjena, Tjena Mike. Hur laget?
man that has to be the sexiest burnout on youtube
Great car
I think there also is a difference on the dyno’s if I’m not mistaken a mustang dyno comes with a result lower than on a regular dyno or a dyno from a different company, I’m not 100 % sure but I heard something about that once
If i understand correct you are from Sweden but live in the US so i will wright in swedish below.
Såg att du prata lite om det i slutet av videon men hade varit intressant att veta hur långt du kört nu med nya optimeringen och om bilen går bättre och bättre för varje mil du kör? Jag gjorde en optimering förra sommaren på min Mercedes CLS 350 cdi och det tog nästan 50 köra (svenska) mil innan jag verkligen kunde känna att bilen hade 315 dieselhästar och 750 nm som den nya programvaran skulle ge. Firman som optimera bilen för mig sa precis som du nämnde i videon att tyska bilar kan ta lång tid att "adaptera" sig.
Så har det blivit en stor skillnad nu efter du kört ett tag och bilen har fått adaptera?
Put on couple bullet cutbacks and pick a button to program to access the exhaust
really nice car! How does it compare to the Audi S7?
Damn that car is mean looking
Black it out including the chrome, change the rear exaust tips and splitter, add side skirts and front splitter, lower just a bit
Maybe a cold air intake, tcu tune and exhaust will make a big difference
Too bad we don't have something like the Autobahn in this country. That would be a blast in that car.