Tied some of these in Dark Olive, Ginger, Browns whilst in lockdown. Got a chance this week to use them and WOW - sinking line, slow retrieve and had over 25 Rainbows, and Brownies to them. Many thanks for this excellent pattern. PS it looks great just out of the water.
So I accidently ordered SH/C instead of brahma hen CAPES that came in today. Also need some buggers and this video was in recommended. Perfect timing! Man the movement on that is incredible. Time to hit the vise thx mcfly!
Glad it helped you. Yeah brahma is great but I personally like the longer feathers of the soft hackle, they make it easier without having to use so many feathers
You are the best on YT without a DOUBT! Thorough, succinct, precise....I could go on and on...Thanks for all you do! Fyi, I have tied numerous flies from your videos and all come out great pretty much on the first try, and have yet had one not catch fish! I know this one will as well. Cheers, and God Bless!
Beautiful fly! Thank you for taking the time to create the tutorial and add the underwater shots, showing how the fly behaves when fishing. I will definitely be tying some of these up for my streamer box. Thanks buddy.
Chris, just start tying. DO NOT buy a fly tying "kit". Most of the materials are usually junk. Start off with a vise of no more than $50.00. You can even rig vise grips to hold the fly. Get a bobbin or two for thread(ceramic lined will prevent thread snap). A pair of hackle pliers, a pair of fine point scissors and your set. Buy your materials as you go. With YT and other Internet sources, you can really build on success. Good luck.
Great fly. The undulating movement of a fly is in my opinion, the most important factor in getting a fish to strike. I'll definitely be tying up a few of these. Thanks for the great vid!
At one point the underwater demo there seemed to be a video cut. When that happened I ended up watching the beta fish for a second or two thinking it was the fly. I can't wait to tie one of these!
Yeah both move lots in the water. Let me know how it works for you. Still this is one of my favorite streamer flies. Tight lines productions really created a good one with this pattern.
Great vid and great informative production. love the action on this fly. Getting back into tying myself and adding this to my favorites list! Thanks so much!
Thanks! Yeah, the guy who created this pattern (couldn’t find online who he was) was smart! Good thinking on his part to use soft hackle! If anyone can find the original creator, please let me know! :)
Nice fly. I like the movement in the water. Sometimes I will tie a blood midge or black beauty on the back of bigger, and twitch the bugger on the swing.
Good idea, I’m not sure it’s necessary. If it’s wrapped tightly then the feather fibers itself will cushion the stem from teeth. I didn’t create this pattern myself, I believe the guys from tightlines productions did. They said in their video exactly that, the fly is fairly durable because of all the fiber around the base. I personally have never had one of these come apart on me. Unlike badly tied wooly buggers. Those always break apart due to teeth or not good whip finishes (when I buy them, I generally use wire and good whip finishes on my own)
While this is an interesting tie, it's really a leech pattern. The wooly bugger's appeal is that it works in both the static drift and more kinetic strip. Also, while static the silloette is that of a crayfish, or minnow , or nymph. I'm also reminded of a zonker. Your skill is good.
Thanks, yeah similar to a leech pattern…. Fishes like a bugger as well, you can drift this or strip it. Now the bugger with more stiff fiber is gonna push more water. So it just depends on what your looking for in the fly for that given time.
It's a beautiful fly. And the movement is awesome. I had always used soft hackle as a collar. Never thought of palmering it along a full hook shank. Thank you for the demo. A standard bugger has reinforced wire ribbing throughout. I know from experience that it is well worth the extra step to tie in this ribbing if you want your buggers to last. I assume that you did not tie in wire ribbing because it would be hard to keep from wrapping down some of those soft hackle fibers. It might be that having to tie in several hackles reinforces this fly in a different way. Another thing about a standard bugger is that the stiffer hackles create water resistance and push water. As you know this is like sound to fish. They feel it along their lateral line. So this design might be less durable and there might be a little different water push with the softer hackle. Is this design better than a standard bugger? I'm not sure, but the movement is better and this is definitely a beautiful fly.
After tying one i love the movement but i have a durability concern. A good trout nip and the soft hackle will unravel dont you think? Have a feeling counter ribbing will ugly up the body. Thoughts? Edit: then again, maybe all the feathers will protect the stem 🤔
i have ties about 2 dozen now,,i found on the last feather do not trim all the soft webby fibers from the base of the feather.. as you finish the feather to the eye of the hook,, the soft webby part of the feather fill the head much better
Very cool man, glad your giving the fly a try, it really is a great one. And yes, you can keep some of the webby feathers on the last feather for sure. Thats the beauty of tying your own flies, you can make them how you want and change them to your own needs.
Looks good.Nice action for sure. I like a heavily weighted Wooly Bugger in most cases. Not sure how well you could wrap lead on body of this. I do so well with traditional ones I personally don't see a real advantage to this one. I enjoy your tying videos. Thank You.
The movement with this is much more. But regular wooly buggers always do work, and are slightly quicker to tie. However this will have more pulsating which usually attracts the fish more, especially with ones that aren’t yet committed to striking. And yes wrapping lead would change it a bit. Probably make it difficult. However you could add a cone head or bead for weight on it without any added difficulty.
Here’s an opinion on your fly. The fly is extremely compact and I don’t think it got that much movement as you said. Got a few tips for making the fly even better looking and a better fish finder and fish catcher. Tip 1. When using a softhackle, strip of the one side of the feather before hackleling the feather, it will make the fly look more transparent, and less compact. Tip 2. Take the backside of your scissors and drag it down the feather to “break” the feather in an angle, making it easier to hackle, and it lays better. Tip 3. Before the first hackle, take the thread up to the hookeye and then dub it backwards with a dubbing matching the feathers used. Tip4. Now hackle the hook with 2-3 stripped feathers in open turns. This will 100% Tune your fly beyond anything.
All good tips. So as said in the description section I took this pattern off of another UA-cam channel. It’s not my pattern but one I liked fishing with when I tried it. I’m sure there are some ways to improve for some situations. It seems to catch very well for me though this way, but always good to get some improvement
Superbly done video. Excellent lighting, comp, framing and depth of field. Excellent voice over description of the steps (done in sync with the steps). I liked the underwater sequence too. Underwater shots are seldom done, even less seldom done as well. Music not my type of music, BUT excellent balance of music to voice, so as not to drown out the voice. Voice came through loud and clear; excellent modulation to voice too. I don't like a lot of tying steps anymore - that was for my younger 20 years of tying - but this fly kinda' intrigues and I wish to try it. I KNOW it would work on my trout (I use Buggers for trout 90% of the time) in black, olive and a burnt org/brown. Of course, I would tie it on a jighead - most of my streamers are so tied now. Superb video Sir. Do you sell flies? LOL.
Love the videos! As a beginner, could you recommend several c-clamp vises under $200 that would be quality and I would be happy with. Rotary no necessary. Only tying for myself in the southwest. I think this fly would land me a large brown in the White Mountains of Arizona. Thanks, Dave
Under $200?? Man there is a long list. My Vise is $160 it’s a renzetti traveler. But if you want much less, there is a vice called griffin, some people like. It’s in the $100 range. Also I can get you a discount at Fly artist with that. Use McFlySubs at checkout for your discount. Here is the link. www.flyartist.com/collections/griffin-vises/products/griffin-odyssey-spider-vise?variant=12720867737659
Yes you can! But if it’s weighted at the fly it might not move as well. I like the fluttering action when there is weight above and some tippit between and then the unweighted fly bouncing around. But it depends of course what your trying to do.
Thanks! No I don’t think I was using CO2 on that tank, maybe though. I know I did on one tank I had, can’t remember if it was that one. I don’t think it was though
"wire"? You mean run wire through it to make it more durable? You can if you want, but the creator of this pattern "tight lines productions" said that it is quite durable as is because of all the material on it. Kinda protects the stem and thread in a way.
Yeah, but wooly buggers are “palmered” which leaves room for fish teeth to get into the stems and cut them. This is touching wraps which kinda protects them in a way.
I looked everywhere on who designed it. Couldn’t find it anywhere... I went and looked at his video and he doesn’t state anywhere that he is the originator. If I could find that info I could at least say who designed the thing in my description section.
I could also see this on a jig or a titanium shank weighted hook....just enuf weight, like 1/8 to 1/32 oz... All the hackle would be killer with Panfish.
For sure, give it a try. I personally like fishing small streamers like this with no weight and a sinking line. But for sure a jigging motion won’t be bad if you weight it.
Honestly I’ve been looking everywhere on who originally tied it. Can’t find it anywhere. So it’s Tim Flagler who is the originator? Someone said they saw his video on it so I looked it up and found his video and he never said in there that he was the originator. But yeah I’ll go ahead and give him credit as the originator of the fly in the description section if we know he is the originator.
@@McFlyAngler yeah, this stuff is tough to figure out. I would write Tim and just ask him. He's a stand up guy and I'm a little surprised you don't know him. He's super easy to contact.
I don’t, it’s a brown/orange type. Go to whiting site, it will tell you all the colors they have. Should be able to find it. Just can’t remember the exact color name off hand
What materials did you use?! (Just kidding) great video. I mistakenly thought your beta was the fly and when I saw it’s tail swishing I was in disbelief haha.
Chickaboo is more like marabou, If your looking for the soft hackle used, then maybe yah. However shlappen will be quite a bit longer. Better for flies in the size 2 and up range. But then at that point marabou on the backend might match up perfectly!
Don’t cut the tips, that would ruin the movement... the tapered tips are what makes it move. The soft hackle in the bag is like $2.50 or something, I’d use that.
Personally I don't think you owe it to the Woolly To use the word Bugger in the name, unless of course someone else did this pattern and named it. I also think it is a great Stillwater pattern, will have to try it in a river as well. Thanks Shawn!!
It’s not my pattern, they called it the “Brahma bugger”. But I honestly said “better than a wooly bugger because that gets more views that some random name. More people search how to tie a wooly bugger than almost any other fly. Lol
I think I discussed this in the video. But adding weight just makes it move differently, still will fish fine, just I prefer the weight up above the fly so it bounces around more
i test some of my flys in one of the pools in my condo... get some strange looks and questions, but now they know what i am doing so its cool,,,, even made this fly( 2 of them ) cut the barb off after i tied them for... ear rings for a women how lives here
@@McFlyAngler i added on 3 flys some .015 lead wire in the middle just 5 or 6 turns.. and in 2 flys i wrapped half the hook shank with copper wire .. the lead to get it down quicker with floating line,, and the copper wire to get it under the surface..,, so far great fly took a few trys to get it right
Some local fly shops sell them. I can also sell them to you if you want. Or you could check with tightlines productions to see if they sell them since they were the original creators of the pattern.
So you’ve had the same issue with multiple flies you’ve tried to tie... there are streamers that sink quickly and some more slow... heck some even float... they are all made for different purposes. Many of the ones that float are made to be fished on a sink tip. This gives a different action. The line sinks down, and the fly stays above the line, bouncing around. This movement only happens with buoyant flies. If you only want to fish a floating line, I’d stick with the streamers that are not slow sinking or floating type streamers. Go with stuff like clouser minnows, or something with a heavy cone head. Hope that helps. But the other thing you can do, is add a heavy split shot onto the line a few inches in front of the fly. It will become a pain in the butt to cast but it will work.
McFly Angler oh no it sinks fine and I understand that it’s not supposed to sink fast it just would sink better and I mean mainly in ponds with 5-10 wraps of lead wire just for a faster stripping falling action on your streamers your flies are great and I mean no disrespect when I comment I’m just saying what I personally am have happening with my flies sorry if that sounded rude man
McFly Angler I’m just commenting what works better I’m my water ways but all are different and you probably catch more fish than me so I can’t say anything lol 🙂
I didn’t take what you said rude, I’m trying to help you. So if you want a specific action there are specific flies meant for that. That’s what I meant. I’m not offended, not even close. Just trying to help. And currently I’m not catching any fish! Haha’ darn covid! Can’t wait to get out there again!
It actually wasn’t Brahma specified pelt, it is simply called “whiting full soft hackle with chickabou pelt”. However it is Brahma, just seems to be a larger pelt than the normal Brahma. Color is “mottled gray dyed natural brown”
Thanks for the response. I have only seen dun and tan in the whiting soft hackle pelts. I have never seen the brown. I use the dun for soft hackle flies, but I am going to have to pick one these in brown. Really great looking fly.
Sorta... I mean it’s a bit different. I didn’t come up with the pattern as I stated in the description section, but it’s I guess a bit similar. I mean, so many flies are similar to each other with slight differences.
@@McFlyAngler I firmly believe that most flies today are variations of previous flies. Yours is really well done and the fish tank portion is exceptional. I've been fishing the Gartside Soft Hackle Streamer and his Sparrow since he showed me how to tie them. Both are excellent producers.
Yep, exactly, that’s what I mean. All new patterns are pretty much variations of old patterns. I mean there are 100’s of thousands if not million of patterns out there. That being said, I didn’t create this pattern. Tightlines did... I do believe they made an excellent fly. Oh I wish I knew some of the great fly fisherman personally. Awesome man! What an experience to be fought by the greats! I was pretty much self taught. Then working at the fly shop, the owner would show me some tricks also. But majority is self taught for me.
@@McFlyAngler I was demo tying at a show in Seattle, maybe my second or third time tying at a show. A bit nervous, and then I find out I'm tying next to Jack Gartside. When he wasn't doing a demo or running outside for a smoke (he was a heavy smoker) he showed me how to tie some of his flies. He steered a few folks over to me to watch me tie Irish lough patterns. Told them I really knew my stuff. That way he could go smoke. Learned a lot that day. This was probably 25 years ago or so.
In that case, I'd be inclined to make the fore of the fly of olive or gray or black or brown or red... the possibilities are exciting. What a great pattern. Thanks for sharing it.
Yeah, the inventor of this pattern got one very right with this! Totally change up the head on it for sure! You could do the 3rd feather red, for gills, and the last feather gray for a darker head. Totally! :)
I like to fish weighted ones, but I find the technique of fishing a weight a bit further up to get the fly down, and allow it to bounce around behind the weight to be super effective
Oh well maybe try it with a jig hook and tungsten slotted bead. I mean if you need it to be hook point up that is. If you ever want to try it somewhere you aren't bouncing off the bottom, it works really well with the technique I said. Weight in front with it fluttering around behind the weight. I really like that technique also for semi floating flies. I make one streamer which sorta floats. I put weight ahead of it and it does this side to side motion when stripped. Gets the bass going wild.
imo, i would watch a lot more of your videos if they had no music. when i tie flies, i like setting my own ambiance and this is not it. Great pattern though!
Tied some of these in Dark Olive, Ginger, Browns whilst in lockdown. Got a chance this week to use them and WOW - sinking line, slow retrieve and had over 25 Rainbows, and Brownies to them. Many thanks for this excellent pattern. PS it looks great just out of the water.
Thanks! Yeah Tim Flagler made an awesome pattern here! It’s one of my favorites
The pulsation is the key to that fly. It really imitates a live creature in the water. Well tied Angler!
Thank you! Yeah, it moves a lot! Got a few of these for you in November!
McFly Angler Thanks Angler. Can't wait!
So much great information! And the underwater footage sealed the deal. Thank you very much for sharing.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
I'm glad I'm not the only flyfisherman who lives keeping aquariums as well lol
Ha for sure!
So I accidently ordered SH/C instead of brahma hen CAPES that came in today. Also need some buggers and this video was in recommended. Perfect timing! Man the movement on that is incredible. Time to hit the vise thx mcfly!
Glad it helped you. Yeah brahma is great but I personally like the longer feathers of the soft hackle, they make it easier without having to use so many feathers
You are the best on YT without a DOUBT! Thorough, succinct, precise....I could go on and on...Thanks for all you do! Fyi, I have tied numerous flies from your videos and all come out great pretty much on the first try, and have yet had one not catch fish! I know this one will as well. Cheers, and God Bless!
Hey thanks man, I appreciate it. Glad the videos help ya
Beautiful fly! Thank you for taking the time to create the tutorial and add the underwater shots, showing how the fly behaves when fishing. I will definitely be tying some of these up for my streamer box. Thanks buddy.
Glad to help and glad you like it. :)
Excellent video
Loved the fish tank segment 🔥
Thank you
Another awesome leech imitation to add to my arsenal! I'll be tying a bunch of these in black, red, and brown
All good colors!
I truly wish I had the patients and skill set to make my own flies but working in the hospital lab takes a lot out of me. You do a awesome job.
Thank you. Yeah my wife is a nurse, I can imagine.
If I were your patient I’d tie you some flies
Chris, just start tying. DO NOT buy a fly tying "kit". Most of the materials are usually junk. Start off with a vise of no more than $50.00. You can even rig vise grips to hold the fly. Get a bobbin or two for thread(ceramic lined will prevent thread snap). A pair of hackle pliers, a pair of fine point scissors and your set. Buy your materials as you go. With YT and other Internet sources, you can really build on success. Good luck.
Great fly. The undulating movement of a fly is in my opinion, the most important factor in getting a fish to strike. I'll definitely be tying up a few of these. Thanks for the great vid!
Thanks! Yeah Flagler did a great job designing this. He made in my opinion the best small streamer Fly ever!
using the wire to secure the grizzly hackle from the other end is amazing! thanks for the tip!
I think your commenting on the wrong video. Haha! But yes that’s a great way to tie the wooly bugger
Thumbs up for that underwater footage.
Thanks
Great looking fly
Thank you
Fantastic action in all types of retrieves
Yeah, Tim Flagler really got something right when he designed this fly
Excellent. Informative, to the point, and tying tips too! Showing the underwater action was what got me to watch.
Thanks! Yeah I show the underwater footage in almost all my streamer vids...
At one point the underwater demo there seemed to be a video cut. When that happened I ended up watching the beta fish for a second or two thinking it was the fly. I can't wait to tie one of these!
Yeah both move lots in the water. Let me know how it works for you. Still this is one of my favorite streamer flies. Tight lines productions really created a good one with this pattern.
Great vid and great informative production. love the action on this fly. Getting back into tying myself and adding this to my favorites list! Thanks so much!
Glad it helped and glad you liked it, thank you! God bless man!
I love this fly soooooooo much
Thanks
I'll be tying this one! Great looking fly.
Thanks!
Great work both with fly and aquarium
ThankYou
Thanks
Beautiful fly!
Thanks
That is a great looking fly. 👍
Thanks! Yeah, the guy who created this pattern (couldn’t find online who he was) was smart! Good thinking on his part to use soft hackle! If anyone can find the original creator, please let me know! :)
Nice fly. I like the movement in the water. Sometimes I will tie a blood midge or black beauty on the back of bigger, and twitch the bugger on the swing.
Thanks, yeah that’s a really good technique
Well done! Nice fly!
Thanks!
Beautiful fly! Nice!!!
Glad you like it
Thank you for your work!
Great action under water 👍
Thanks! Yeah the tightlines production guys did a great job creating this fly, lots of movement!
Your fish were legitimately confused by this pattern. Their reactions say it all!
lol thanks! Ya they didn’t know what to do with it
Thanks! Great video & Great instructions! I will share! & watch more of your content!
Thank you! Check me out on Instagram and say hi there also! Welcome to the channel here.
Wow, that was a great video. Thank you.
Thanks! I appreciate it.
Great video, Shawn.
Thank you
Great tutorial!
Thank you
Nice bugger good job
Thanks
Great video! Have a great weekend!
You too!
Add a small wire into the wrap to help keep it together in case a tooth cuts the string wrap.
Good idea, I’m not sure it’s necessary. If it’s wrapped tightly then the feather fibers itself will cushion the stem from teeth. I didn’t create this pattern myself, I believe the guys from tightlines productions did. They said in their video exactly that, the fly is fairly durable because of all the fiber around the base. I personally have never had one of these come apart on me. Unlike badly tied wooly buggers. Those always break apart due to teeth or not good whip finishes (when I buy them, I generally use wire and good whip finishes on my own)
While this is an interesting tie, it's really a leech pattern. The wooly bugger's appeal is that it works in both the static drift and more kinetic strip. Also, while static the silloette is that of a crayfish, or minnow , or nymph. I'm also reminded of a zonker. Your skill is good.
Thanks, yeah similar to a leech pattern…. Fishes like a bugger as well, you can drift this or strip it. Now the bugger with more stiff fiber is gonna push more water. So it just depends on what your looking for in the fly for that given time.
It's a beautiful fly. And the movement is awesome. I had always used soft hackle as a collar. Never thought of palmering it along a full hook shank. Thank you for the demo.
A standard bugger has reinforced wire ribbing throughout. I know from experience that it is well worth the extra step to tie in this ribbing if you want your buggers to last. I assume that you did not tie in wire ribbing because it would be hard to keep from wrapping down some of those soft hackle fibers. It might be that having to tie in several hackles reinforces this fly in a different way.
Another thing about a standard bugger is that the stiffer hackles create water resistance and push water. As you know this is like sound to fish. They feel it along their lateral line. So this design might be less durable and there might be a little different water push with the softer hackle. Is this design better than a standard bugger? I'm not sure, but the movement is better and this is definitely a beautiful fly.
Thank you great tying
Thanks!
Love 😍 it. Natural always catches me more fish
Natural materials work well on flies for sure!
Great inspiration! Thanks!
Glad you liked it.
Great tye! Have you ever included a single red hackle feather under the Palmered feather at the head to mimic gills?
I haven’t, but for sure that’s an option if you want to do it.
Nice one
Thank you
Nice fly👍🏻
Thanks
After tying one i love the movement but i have a durability concern. A good trout nip and the soft hackle will unravel dont you think? Have a feeling counter ribbing will ugly up the body. Thoughts?
Edit: then again, maybe all the feathers will protect the stem 🤔
Feathers should protect the stem, no less durable than a normal wooly bugger, in fact I think more durable. I’ve had a few come loose but it’s rare.
i have ties about 2 dozen now,,i found on the last feather do not trim all the soft webby fibers from the base of the feather.. as you finish the feather to the eye of the hook,, the soft webby part of the feather fill the head much better
Very cool man, glad your giving the fly a try, it really is a great one. And yes, you can keep some of the webby feathers on the last feather for sure. Thats the beauty of tying your own flies, you can make them how you want and change them to your own needs.
I thought, "My god! I can't tell the difference between that and a real fish!" Then I realized that I was watching the guppy.
Hahahahaha
Looks good.Nice action for sure. I like a heavily weighted Wooly Bugger in most cases. Not sure how well you could wrap lead on body of this. I do so well with traditional ones I personally don't see a real advantage to this one. I enjoy your tying videos. Thank You.
The movement with this is much more. But regular wooly buggers always do work, and are slightly quicker to tie. However this will have more pulsating which usually attracts the fish more, especially with ones that aren’t yet committed to striking.
And yes wrapping lead would change it a bit. Probably make it difficult. However you could add a cone head or bead for weight on it without any added difficulty.
You could always add a cone head or bead at the front for a little extra weight :)
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Thanks! Welcome to the channel! :)
Really cool
Thanks!
Great fly even better fish tank
Thanks 👍
Here’s an opinion on your fly.
The fly is extremely compact and I don’t think it got that much movement as you said.
Got a few tips for making the fly even better looking and a better fish finder and fish catcher.
Tip 1. When using a softhackle, strip of the one side of the feather before hackleling the feather, it will make the fly look more transparent, and less compact.
Tip 2. Take the backside of your scissors and drag it down the feather to “break” the feather in an angle, making it easier to hackle, and it lays better.
Tip 3. Before the first hackle, take the thread up to the hookeye and then dub it backwards with a dubbing matching the feathers used.
Tip4. Now hackle the hook with 2-3 stripped feathers in open turns.
This will 100% Tune your fly beyond anything.
All good tips. So as said in the description section I took this pattern off of another UA-cam channel. It’s not my pattern but one I liked fishing with when I tried it. I’m sure there are some ways to improve for some situations. It seems to catch very well for me though this way, but always good to get some improvement
Looks good. Hell, I'd eat it.
Thanks
Superbly done video. Excellent lighting, comp, framing and depth of field. Excellent voice over description of the steps (done in sync with the steps). I liked the underwater sequence too. Underwater shots are seldom done, even less seldom done as well. Music not my type of music, BUT excellent balance of music to voice, so as not to drown out the voice. Voice came through loud and clear; excellent modulation to voice too. I don't like a lot of tying steps anymore - that was for my younger 20 years of tying - but this fly kinda' intrigues and I wish to try it. I KNOW it would work on my trout (I use Buggers for trout 90% of the time) in black, olive and a burnt org/brown. Of course, I would tie it on a jighead - most of my streamers are so tied now. Superb video Sir. Do you sell flies? LOL.
Thank you, and yes I sell flies. Glad you liked it.
I’m deleting your message since it contains your email, can’t be too careful online....
@@McFlyAngler understandable, and thank you
I did email you though...
Love the videos! As a beginner, could you recommend several c-clamp vises under $200 that would be quality and I would be happy with. Rotary no necessary. Only tying for myself in the southwest. I think this fly would land me a large brown in the White Mountains of Arizona. Thanks, Dave
Under $200?? Man there is a long list. My Vise is $160 it’s a renzetti traveler. But if you want much less, there is a vice called griffin, some people like. It’s in the $100 range. Also I can get you a discount at Fly artist with that. Use McFlySubs at checkout for your discount. Here is the link. www.flyartist.com/collections/griffin-vises/products/griffin-odyssey-spider-vise?variant=12720867737659
That fly will be awesome in the White Mountains! It will be great at Becker, I had a lot of luck with black buggers there last time I went
any reason why i couldn't add a bead head on this one? sorry, I'm brand new to tying.
Yes you can! But if it’s weighted at the fly it might not move as well. I like the fluttering action when there is weight above and some tippit between and then the unweighted fly bouncing around. But it depends of course what your trying to do.
Nice aquarium! Do you use CO2? Nice fly BTW
Thanks! No I don’t think I was using CO2 on that tank, maybe though. I know I did on one tank I had, can’t remember if it was that one. I don’t think it was though
Great looking fly m8!!
Just wandering though...... is there no need to "wire" it because the brown trout will jump all over this 1!!
"wire"? You mean run wire through it to make it more durable? You can if you want, but the creator of this pattern "tight lines productions" said that it is quite durable as is because of all the material on it. Kinda protects the stem and thread in a way.
@@McFlyAngler ok great. Yes I was wandering if it needed ( maybe) to be wrapped with wire, kind of like a wooly bugger erc.
Yeah, but wooly buggers are “palmered” which leaves room for fish teeth to get into the stems and cut them. This is touching wraps which kinda protects them in a way.
Wow, Never Seen That Before .......
I wasn’t the creator, but it is a nice fly, surprised it’s not in every fly shop honestly, it’s a rare one to find at shops, but it is a good one
Great Video Thanks for doing it! what kind of hackle holder/pliers do you use in this video?
Thanks. They are made by umpqua I believe
@@McFlyAngler Thank You for the reply I have now found some call "EZ hook and hackle pliers".
Awesome glad you found some
I think this bugger variation was originally developed by Tim Flagler from Tightline productions. Tan brahma is the one I've done best on.
I looked everywhere on who designed it. Couldn’t find it anywhere... I went and looked at his video and he doesn’t state anywhere that he is the originator. If I could find that info I could at least say who designed the thing in my description section.
I could also see this on a jig or a titanium shank weighted hook....just enuf weight, like 1/8 to 1/32 oz... All the hackle would be killer with Panfish.
For sure, give it a try. I personally like fishing small streamers like this with no weight and a sinking line. But for sure a jigging motion won’t be bad if you weight it.
Great fly if you like catching guppies ;)
Or trout, bass, panfish, and many saltwater species as well. Not sure guppies can fit it in their mouth honestly....
@@McFlyAngler I was teasing! I know how deadly buggers are. Keep up the good work 👍
Yes, maybe my sarcasm didn't show through... ;). HAHA.
this is good
Thanks
Dude you gotta give credit to Tim Flagler or Tightline video for the pattern 💡 in the vid!
Honestly I’ve been looking everywhere on who originally tied it. Can’t find it anywhere. So it’s Tim Flagler who is the originator? Someone said they saw his video on it so I looked it up and found his video and he never said in there that he was the originator. But yeah I’ll go ahead and give him credit as the originator of the fly in the description section if we know he is the originator.
Added, thanks!
McFly Angler ok
@@McFlyAngler yeah, this stuff is tough to figure out. I would write Tim and just ask him. He's a stand up guy and I'm a little surprised you don't know him. He's super easy to contact.
I am new to fly tying and I am just wondering why you use a 4x long hook, do you find that it works better than the 3x most tie this pattern on?
You can use a 3x hook. Will just be a shorter body.
@@McFlyAngler Thank you, do you happen to remember what color Brahma you used?
I don’t, it’s a brown/orange type. Go to whiting site, it will tell you all the colors they have. Should be able to find it. Just can’t remember the exact color name off hand
Best!
Wooly Booger is when you pick your nose and get a hair on the boogie.
Yes that would be a wooly booger, luckily it’s a wooly bugger…. Lol! Did I do a typo somewhere?
What materials did you use?! (Just kidding) great video. I mistakenly thought your beta was the fly and when I saw it’s tail swishing I was in disbelief haha.
Lol. Yeah, those little guppies man, they are funny little guys
I'm guessing if one doesn't have chickaboo readily available.... schlappen will work?
Chickaboo is more like marabou, If your looking for the soft hackle used, then maybe yah. However shlappen will be quite a bit longer. Better for flies in the size 2 and up range. But then at that point marabou on the backend might match up perfectly!
Yeah, I'd be tying them fairly big. 4s. I'd take the tips of the schlappen to keep length somewhat manageable.
Don’t cut the tips, that would ruin the movement... the tapered tips are what makes it move. The soft hackle in the bag is like $2.50 or something, I’d use that.
I think I wrote that poorly. I'd be using the tips. Make more sense now?
Not really...
Personally I don't think you owe it to the Woolly To use the word Bugger in the name, unless of course someone else did this pattern and named it.
I also think it is a great Stillwater pattern, will have to try it in a river as well. Thanks Shawn!!
It’s not my pattern, they called it the “Brahma bugger”. But I honestly said “better than a wooly bugger because that gets more views that some random name. More people search how to tie a wooly bugger than almost any other fly. Lol
I think that guppy thought it was a mouse in its tank.
Mouse?
How do you think the fly would turn out with a bead?
I think I discussed this in the video. But adding weight just makes it move differently, still will fish fine, just I prefer the weight up above the fly so it bounces around more
i test some of my flys in one of the pools in my condo... get some strange looks and questions, but now they know what i am doing so its cool,,,, even made this fly( 2 of them ) cut the barb off after i tied them for... ear rings for a women how lives here
Ok... well if you ever give it a try fishing instead of making earrings with them, they will catch some fish for you. Good luck.
@@McFlyAngler i added on 3 flys some .015 lead wire in the middle just 5 or 6 turns.. and in 2 flys i wrapped half the hook shank with copper wire .. the lead to get it down quicker with floating line,, and the copper wire to get it under the surface..,, so far great fly took a few trys to get it right
Could I purchase some of these somewhere?
Some local fly shops sell them. I can also sell them to you if you want. Or you could check with tightlines productions to see if they sell them since they were the original creators of the pattern.
Like how much these move but they don’t sink very fast with no lead wire
I almost exclusively fish these with a sink tip, or some lead split shot in front a few inches. It moves better that way.
So you’ve had the same issue with multiple flies you’ve tried to tie... there are streamers that sink quickly and some more slow... heck some even float... they are all made for different purposes. Many of the ones that float are made to be fished on a sink tip. This gives a different action. The line sinks down, and the fly stays above the line, bouncing around. This movement only happens with buoyant flies. If you only want to fish a floating line, I’d stick with the streamers that are not slow sinking or floating type streamers. Go with stuff like clouser minnows, or something with a heavy cone head. Hope that helps. But the other thing you can do, is add a heavy split shot onto the line a few inches in front of the fly. It will become a pain in the butt to cast but it will work.
McFly Angler oh no it sinks fine and I understand that it’s not supposed to sink fast it just would sink better and I mean mainly in ponds with 5-10 wraps of lead wire just for a faster stripping falling action on your streamers your flies are great and I mean no disrespect when I comment I’m just saying what I personally am have happening with my flies sorry if that sounded rude man
McFly Angler I’m just commenting what works better I’m my water ways but all are different and you probably catch more fish than me so I can’t say anything lol 🙂
I didn’t take what you said rude, I’m trying to help you. So if you want a specific action there are specific flies meant for that. That’s what I meant. I’m not offended, not even close. Just trying to help. And currently I’m not catching any fish! Haha’ darn covid! Can’t wait to get out there again!
What color Brahma do you use? I really like the color.
It actually wasn’t Brahma specified pelt, it is simply called “whiting full soft hackle with chickabou pelt”. However it is Brahma, just seems to be a larger pelt than the normal Brahma. Color is “mottled gray dyed natural brown”
Thanks for the response. I have only seen dun and tan in the whiting soft hackle pelts. I have never seen the brown. I use the dun for soft hackle flies, but I am going to have to pick one these in brown. Really great looking fly.
Thanks! I got it from a fly shop called anglers covey in Colorado Springs, maybe you could call them and see if they have more
My local fly shop should be able to get one for me. Thanks for the info.
No problem!
where is the descripton section of this video?
Below all videos there is a section where the uploader can write info about a video. They call it the description section.
So, it's a Jack Gartside Soft Hackle Streamer variation.
Sorta... I mean it’s a bit different. I didn’t come up with the pattern as I stated in the description section, but it’s I guess a bit similar. I mean, so many flies are similar to each other with slight differences.
@@McFlyAngler I firmly believe that most flies today are variations of previous flies. Yours is really well done and the fish tank portion is exceptional. I've been fishing the Gartside Soft Hackle Streamer and his Sparrow since he showed me how to tie them. Both are excellent producers.
Yep, exactly, that’s what I mean. All new patterns are pretty much variations of old patterns. I mean there are 100’s of thousands if not million of patterns out there. That being said, I didn’t create this pattern. Tightlines did... I do believe they made an excellent fly.
Oh I wish I knew some of the great fly fisherman personally. Awesome man! What an experience to be fought by the greats! I was pretty much self taught. Then working at the fly shop, the owner would show me some tricks also. But majority is self taught for me.
@@McFlyAngler I was demo tying at a show in Seattle, maybe my second or third time tying at a show. A bit nervous, and then I find out I'm tying next to Jack Gartside. When he wasn't doing a demo or running outside for a smoke (he was a heavy smoker) he showed me how to tie some of his flies. He steered a few folks over to me to watch me tie Irish lough patterns. Told them I really knew my stuff. That way he could go smoke. Learned a lot that day. This was probably 25 years ago or so.
Awesome!
Thanks for the video. FYI, the promo code doesn’t work.
Not anymore no.
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Guppies are gullible. Smallies will scarf it up.
Well yes, Guppies aren’t the brightest tool in the shed man. Haha... but, your right, these flies work!
Leech-irrifc!
Tie it in white for a good baitfish imitator as well
In that case, I'd be inclined to make the fore of the fly of olive or gray or black or brown or red... the possibilities are exciting. What a great pattern. Thanks for sharing it.
Yeah, the inventor of this pattern got one very right with this! Totally change up the head on it for sure! You could do the 3rd feather red, for gills, and the last feather gray for a darker head. Totally! :)
Flashes in your speed edits are gonna end up giving someone a seizure.
Lol. Your funny
I find wholly just aren't that effective without some weight, tungsten bead or lead wire
I like to fish weighted ones, but I find the technique of fishing a weight a bit further up to get the fly down, and allow it to bounce around behind the weight to be super effective
@@McFlyAngler ok I'll try again and fine tune i tend to have the weight hook up on gravel
Oh well maybe try it with a jig hook and tungsten slotted bead. I mean if you need it to be hook point up that is. If you ever want to try it somewhere you aren't bouncing off the bottom, it works really well with the technique I said. Weight in front with it fluttering around behind the weight. I really like that technique also for semi floating flies. I make one streamer which sorta floats. I put weight ahead of it and it does this side to side motion when stripped. Gets the bass going wild.
@@McFlyAngler never tried with jig hook but I will thanks
It's better
Mine dit not look like that😂
Lol, try it again, it will turn out good. Just takes some practice. These aren’t easy no question
imo, i would watch a lot more of your videos if they had no music. when i tie flies, i like setting my own ambiance and this is not it. Great pattern though!
Glad you liked the pattern