his actual name was Amr ibn Abi Talib and the works of the Ahlul Sunnah confirm this: 1) Sunan by Abū ʿĪsā at-Tirmidhī 2) Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah by Ibn Abi Shaybah 3) Tahdhib al-tahdhib. book by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani 4) Tahdhib al-Kamal fi Asma al-Rijal by Al-Hafidh al-Mizzi 5) Tafsir by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari 6) al-Binaya Sharh al-Hidaya by Abū Muḥammad Maḥmūd ibn Aḥmad ibn Mūsā Badr al-Din al-'Ayni 7) Jami' al tahsil fi ahkam al marasil by Salahuddin Abi Sa'id Ibn-Khalil Ibn Kaykary al 'Alaiy Umar is written as عُمَر While ‘Amr is written as عَمْرو
Sunni Aalims, try to justify, vindicate, defend their 3 Elders, by hook or crook, they leave no stone unturned to defend their 3 Elders. Frequently, Sunni Aalims cite the names of Imaam Ali a s. Sons as Imaam Ali a s. named his sons after, 3, caliphs names. Well clarified, solid proof, presented.
We don't say they were best friends and had perfect relationship with each other.They only say that with all the differences Ali and all previous caliphs had mutual respect and admiration for each other. The major point is why are you calling yourself shia ul ali? Why not shia ul Mohammad?It tells use that it was a political movement of People who wanted Ali to be caliph and had nothing to do with Islam or Mohammad teachings.
@@wali9378Ghadeer khum, the Prophet sws declared Ali as the Successor. ‘Mawla’ Even Umar pledged his allegiance to Ali and said ‘congratulations today you have become the master of the Muslims’ Interestingly tho, when Mawla is translated from the Hadith of Ghadeer Khum it’s translated into friend. But when Mawla is used to refere to Umar it is translated into Successor. The Prophet also said to Ali, he is Like what Harun was like to Musa, except after him wil be no more Prophets. If there’s no more Prophet after Prophet Muhammad sws, and Harun to Musa was his successor and a Prophet, than what’s left is Ali is his successor but not a Prophet. Also many accounts where companions said they would have Given the pledge of Allegiance to Ali if it wasn’t for what happened in Saqifa. (Which Umar and Abu Bakr shouldn’t have been because the Prophet sws commanded them to leave Madina and Join Usamas Army. Usamas Army was stationd waiting for their arrival but they delayed the Prophets sws command till his dying breath) Let’s also not forget the Pen and Paper incident, why would Umar stop the Prophet sws from writing his will. It is a duty for a Muslim to leave a written will, but the Prophet sws was denied. The companions were the Prophets best friends but something happened at the end of the Prophets life. Dunya took ahold of them. Regarding the Companions Allah swt tells the Prophet sws that the companions he recognises have turn apostate and renegades right after his death and they innovated in the religion. This is a Peophecy given to us by RasoolAllah sws. Abu Bakars claim to the Caliphate and the peoples pledge of allegiance was pushed by Umar Ibn al Khattab, read the history, it wasn’t all rainbows and butterflies, it was a lot of persuasion and threats by Umar to get many of the People to pledge. Umar Ibn al Khattab was a staunch. Jazakallah Kheir. So the Shia of Ali are those who witnessed Ali’s succession after the Prophet sws. Shia of Ali means Shia of nabi Muhammad sws because following Ali was nabi Muhammad’s sws command.
@@wali9378in histories opinion Saqifa was a political movement and had nothing to do with Islam and went directly against the Orders of the Prophet sws when Abu Bakr and Umar abandoned their posts. (Which led up to the pen and paper incident, Abu Bakr leading prayers that Wasn’t ordered by the Prophet because the Prophet sws didn’t Order Abu Bakar by name to go to Usamas Army and also lead prayers at the same time.) And right and the Prophet sws died they were fighting in Saqifa. Again not following the prophets commands. Which one was Political and had nothing to do with Islam and the Prophet Muhammad? I think Umar and Abu Bakar are the ones who put the Politics and Dunya above Deen and Islam.
@@BuHaoo if the prophet of Allah has commanded Muslims to follow Ali and Ali to be his successor then why did Ali pledge allegiance to first Abu bkr and then Umar?Why did he disobeyed the command of the Prophet or Allah by not becoming the successor and accepted the so called false caliphs? And If Umar and Abu bkr were enemies of Ali then why did they would consult Ali in various problems and why did Umar made Ali the governor of Madina when Umar went to Jerusalem at the conquest of Jerusalem? You are telling me to read history.I would tell you to read unbiased History not the shia side of the history. Abu bkr Umar Ali all were close companions of prophets . Particularly Ali and Abu bkr were very close to Mohammad as they were with Mohammad from the very start till his death.Prophet Mohammad would burst in tears if he was alive and saw what shias are talking about Abu Bakr
his actual name was Amr ibn Abi Talib and the works of the Ahlul Sunnah confirm this: 1) Sunan by Abū ʿĪsā at-Tirmidhī 2) Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah by Ibn Abi Shaybah 3) Tahdhib al-tahdhib. book by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani 4) Tahdhib al-Kamal fi Asma al-Rijal by Al-Hafidh al-Mizzi 5) Tafsir by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari 6) al-Binaya Sharh al-Hidaya by Abū Muḥammad Maḥmūd ibn Aḥmad ibn Mūsā Badr al-Din al-'Ayni 7) Jami' al tahsil fi ahkam al marasil by Salahuddin Abi Sa'id Ibn-Khalil Ibn Kaykary al 'Alaiy Umar is written as عُمَر While ‘Amr is written as عَمْرو
Sunni Aalims, even say to the extent, Imaam Ali a s. Used to pray behind 3, caliphs. They say, Rasoolallah gave muslla to Abu bakkar, even, Rasoolallah prayed behind Abu bakkar as Imaam. It reflects, how they are defending their 3, Elders, caliphs. by hook or crook, meticulously they cite such points, to defend their elders.
You do know that Abu bkr was Mohammad best friend and was with him all his life and Abu bkr Ali and Hajra were the first ones to embrace Islam? Let alone friend ,he was his best friend!Being his best friend, Ali too was like a son to him and Ali considered him like his father. If Abu Bakr was misguided then he would have left Mohamad the day Mohammad started preaching Islam.Instead he stood by his side and faced all the hardships. Have some common sense for God sake and stop disrespecting or belittling the dearest companions of Prophet!
@@wali9378I agree with what you’ve said, however can you explain why Abu Bakr didn’t follow the Prophets sws final command to March along side Osamas Army, also why he/they abandoned the Prophet sws burial? I also believe Abu Bakr was the Prophets sws best friend during his life, but faces changed at the dying days of the Prophet sws and they began to disrespect his commands and accuse him of madness. The Prophet Commanded all of the Muhajireen to leave Madina just days before our beloved Prophet sws passed away. But the companions went against his orders rushed to Saqifa instead and had a heated debate amongst a select few people over who will rule. All whilst the rest of the Ummah was burying the prophet sws body. Imagine if Umar and Abu Bakar were at their Posts at Usamas Army and not in Madina. None of this divide in Islam would have happened. Subhanallah. For the Sake of Unity the Ahlul Bayt endured. However Allah is with the Oppressed and they were Guaranteed princess and princes of the heavens. The youths of Paradise. Alhamdullah, we all know whom Allah loved.
On worldly matters, there were always disagreements among prophet saw and his companions.that is not disrespectful. Abu bakr changing at the death of prophet saw is ridiculous.Man in his 60s doesn't change.If Abu bakr had to change he should have changed and abandoned prophet when they were young and Abu bkr had everything on the line for the prophet.He left it all for his best friend because he was the first one who believed in him.Even before than Ali. Regarding prophet saw buriel.who abandoned it? He died in the arms of Ayesha and buried in her home by Ali.The janaza Prayer was done one by one instead of a mass janaza as everyone would enter and prey and nobody was confirm who would lead the prayer. Abu bakr and Omar went to the Shura because they were wise men and know what could happen if they didn't go.If they had not gone, we would not even have the time of khulafa e rashidun and direct fitna would have started right after the death of prophet.Ali trusted Omar and Abu bkr and their decision and so did Omar and Abu bkr trusted Ali. The issue with you guys is that you guys ignore the obvious and commen sense and focus on the dubious stuff and make it into a huge deal. Prophet saw respected and trusted and loved Abu bkr and Omar.And we should too.They might have made mistake and had flaws but we can not question their intention as prophet saw never did.Love what prophet loved.Hate what prophet hated. You guys would try to do anything to proof imamate .Maybe Allah guide you
@@wali9378worldly matters? It's not disrespectful? How can someone have disagreement over the word of the Prophet of Allah, Abu Bakr was a hypocrite so was Umar and Uthman
@@Ihsgshshsjsjzj sahabas had disagreements over the words of prophets regarding worldly matters as prophet too was a human.read how sahabas would disagree with prophet over different strategies in wars. disagreement over the Word of Allah was not allowed. Learn to differentiate. Umar and Abu Bakr are Hypocrites only Shia Sources which were wriiten by? IF they were hypocrites, Ali being iman as you call thhem would fought against them not pledge alligiance to them.Have some common sense
Al Baqra verse 154, Those Who laid down their lives in the Battlefield, they are alive, feeding them, don't say dead ( Momin Companions, Obedient, Amenable, Trustworthy, Unsuspicious, Candid Natured, towards Allah, Rasoolallah, Genuine Companions). After the Demise of Rasoolallah s a w. Some companions, stood by imaam Ali a s. Supported Ahlul Bayt, didn't oath, on the hands of 3 caliphs. They remained loyal to Ahlul Bayt 5, (Salman Farsi r a. Abuzar r a. Malik Ashtar, r a. ......).
Uthman, who is the only person who got to marry 2 of the daughters of any prophet. Is the one you call in infidel. These books are a fabrication. And a truly insult against our prophet sallalahu aleihi wa sallam Why did he give his 2nd daughter after the First died only now to find out the man he gave them to is infidel. You do not even disgrace your imams with this statements.
So if marriage dictates righteousness, does that mean pharaoh is a good person? Because clearly Asiya married him, and the wives of Lut and Nuh are good people too? It’s very one dimensional thinking. Marrying someone doesn’t suddenly transform said person into a wonderful human being. Deeds and akhlaaq dictate righteousness
@@miztermuzic I did not say it was because of the marriage. But because he had given his daughters to this specific man. Of all the sahaba he had given only him 2 of his daughters. After one passed away he have her another one of his daughters You Wait And i Will Wait And Allah Will judge Between you and me are the funeral prayers After that we Will find out.
@@abm6072 Lut was going to give his daughters- plural, daughters to homosexuals, so the people of Lut are good now too. Multiplying the number still doesn’t make people good
Qur'an chapters called Mominoon Righteous Muslimeen. Munafiqoon, Hypocrite Muslimeen. During the period of prophet s a w. then Muslimeen were Companions. Amongst the companions there were Momin, Munafiq. Soon after the Demise of Rasoolallah s a w. Fitna started, by a few vested interests companions, negated declaration of Ghadeer sermon. Rasoolallah s a w. declared, Imaam Ali a s. As Imaam, Caliph of Ummah. negated by So called Caliphs.
@@titangamer1790 Al Baqra verse 154, Those Who laid down their lives in the Battlefield, they are alive, feeding them, don't say dead.( Momin companions, Obedient, Amenable, Trustworthy, Unsuspicious, Candid Natured towards Allah, Rasoolallah, Genuine Companions). After the Demise of Rasoolallah s a w. Some Companions stood by imaam Ali a s, supported Ahlul Bayt 5, considered Imaam Ali a s. As Imaam, Caliph of Ummah,as per the declaration of Ghadeer sermon. ( Salman Farsi r a. Abuzar, r a. Malik Ashtar, Bilal Habshi r a. .....) They remain loyal to Ahlul Bayt, stood by imaam Ali a s. didn't oath on the hands of 3 caliphs. ( Those stood by imaam Hussain a s. at karbala fought against yazeed, laid down their lives, Momin Muslimeen, either they were companions or sons of companions. ). Rasoolallah s a w. legitimate Imaams of Ummah 12, if we believe firmly their legitimacy, it's a sign of Momin.
First of all, Malik al Ashtar wasn't a sahabi, he was a Tabi'i. Secondly, can you give me a list of the sahaba who were loyal to Ali and the Ahlulbayt (as)!
@@titangamer1790 Malik Ashtar, participated in Jamal war, companion of Imaam Ali a s. You can have information from scholars, Zarq Naqvi official. Truth With Reference, scholar Sheikh Wazir Hussain Turabi.
@@tameemansari707 But he's not a companion of Rasulallah (SAWS). We are talking about prominent companions of the Prophet that were loyal or were close to Imam Ali (AS). We already know about Salman al Mohammadi, Abu Dharr al-Ghifari, Miqdad ibn Aswad, Ammar bin Yasir, and Bilal ibn Rabah. But who else we're among the prominent sahaba!
@@MhmdBDRD You actually got it opposite, Rafidh! It goes like this: Prophet Muhammad once said to Umar ibn al-Khattab, “Shaytan does not see you take a path, O Umar, except that he takes a path other than yours”. Which means that Shaitan used to run away from Umar RA. Now look at the truthfulness of Rasulullah SAW, Subhan'Allah, that even after 14 centuries, Shayateen and children of iblis, (which are most of shias, aka rawafidh), run away even at the mention of name of Omar RA like they used to when he was alive. 😆😆😆😆
@@Abdullah.......... Alhmdullah Allah made our enemies stupid You idiot firstly you can't bring a hadith from your your books that are not an authority over me that I see that they are fabricated by deviant scholars that you follow blindly, learn how to argue dumbass Secondly, your books say that the iblis used to whisper to the prophet and used to be in his house and in his heart yet from Umar he would run away, who is better then the prophet or Umar, indeed your prophet is Umar not Muhammad, see how you are astray and how stupid you are, you have no problem insulting the prophet for Umar following fabricated hadiths blindly, the one who used to run away in every battle was Umar the she goat, and all of this is from your books, that's how an argument is made, dumbass 🤣🤣🤣
May Allah guide you all. Who curse those that Allah said He was pleased with. Who curse those that Allah called the mothers of the muslimeen. You have created such a mockery of the religion of the Prophet of Allah, Peace and blessings be upon you.
Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya: I asked my father (`Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then `Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person. حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ كَثِيرٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا جَامِعُ بْنُ أَبِي رَاشِدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو يَعْلَى، عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ ابْنِ الْحَنَفِيَّةِ، قَالَ قُلْتُ لأَبِي أَىُّ النَّاسِ خَيْرٌ بَعْدَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ. قُلْتُ ثُمَّ مَنْ قَالَ ثُمَّ عُمَرُ. وَخَشِيتُ أَنْ يَقُولَ عُثْمَانُ قُلْتُ ثُمَّ أَنْتَ قَالَ مَا أَنَا إِلاَّ رَجُلٌ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ. Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3671 In-book reference : Book 62, Hadith 21 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 5, Book 57, Hadith 20
LMAO abu bakr is best haha. then why in ghadeer prophet did not took his hand or why did Prophet said Ali is leader of people in paradise. etc etc i can go on
the 1st 7 generations of the descendants of Ali have lots of "Aesha", "Umar" and "Abu Bakr". It is so obvious ahlulbayt never hated them like today's devout shias who never name their children these names.
Literally 3 names you hate the most and Ali R.A. called them those hahahah wAllahi i know ur seething that he named them that. You literally have to do mental gymnastics and convince yourselves to beleive this. In your heart you know youre lying wAllahii may Allah give you eternal jahnam and no chance for repentance
What about the other imams? Did they also do taqiyya or where there other umars abubakrs and uthmans around that were named after them? And why do shias today boycott these names? It seems we don't follow them the way they are to be followed.
There are SHIAS that have name of ATIQ now a days, the real name of First khalifa. And we don't keep these UMAR, USMAN Name cos We prefer naming our children on names of EHL E BAIT cos they are our Imams.
Why do you have to name someone after another person? And yes they were common names. Usually the names we give for our children are just based on the society we grew up in
You guys forget the point, this is really a dumb idea, to call your children the names of your wife's killers or your mother or grandmother's killers. These are nowadays names that are cursed daily, in your eyes these names are worse than calling your kids fir'oun or nimrod lol So many good names like you yourself said and still call them the names of the common khulafa. If they had ilme ghaib wouldn't they know that this argument would be used against their shias?
@@thepr1ntgnome430The Messenger of Allah declared: "It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. I am leaving for you two precious things and if you adhere both of them, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The two shall never separate from each other until they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Then the Messenger of Allah continued: "Do I not have more right over the believers than what they have over themselves?”People cried and answered: "Yes, O’ Messenger of God.”Then Prophet (S) held up the hand of ‘Ali and said: "Whoever I am his leader (Mawla), ‘Ali is his leader (Mawla). O’ God, love those who love him, and be hostile to those who are hostile to him." ألَسْتُ أولى بالمؤمنين من أنفسهم؟ قالوا بلى يارسول الله. قال: من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه. اللهم وال من والاه و عاد من عاداه. Some of the Sunni references: (1) Sahih Tirmidhi, v2, p298, v5, p63 (2) Sunan Ibn Maja, v1, pp 12,43 (3) Khasa’is, by al-Nisa’i, pp 4,21 (4) al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p129, v3, pp 109-110,116,371 (5) Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, pp 84,118,119,152,330, v4, pp 281,368,370, 372,378, v5, pp 35,347,358,361,366,419 (from 40 chains of narrators) (6) Fada’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Hanbal, v2, pp 563,572 (7) Majma’ al-Zawa’id, by al-Haythami, v9, p103 (from several transmitters) (8) Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, v12, pp 49-50 (9) Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthur, by al-Hafiz Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, v3, p19 (10) Tarikh al-Khulafa, by al-Suyuti, pp 169,173 (11) al-Bidayah wal-Nihayah, by Ibn Kathir, v3, p213, v5, p208 (12) Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn Athir, v4, p114 (13) Mushkil al-Athar, by al-Tahawi, v2, pp 307-308 (14) Habib al-Siyar, by Mir Khand, v1, part 3, p144 (15) Sawaiq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, p26 (16) al-Isabah, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v2, p509; v1, part1, p319, v2, part1, p57, v3, part1, p29, v4, part 1, pp 14,16,143 (17) Tabarani, who narrated from companions such as Ibn Umar, Malik Ibn al-Hawirath, Habashi Ibn Junadah, Jari, Sa’d Ibn Abi Waqqas, Anas Ibn Malik, Ibn Abbas, Amarah,Buraydah,... (18) Tarikh, by al-Khatib Baghdadi, v8, p290 (19) Hilyatul Awliya’, by al-Hafiz Abu Nu’aym, v4, p23, v5, pp26-27 (20) al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, Chapter of word "ayn”(‘Ali), v2, p462 (21) Kanzul Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, v6, pp 154,397 (22) al-Mirqat, v5, p568 (23) al-Riyad al-Nadirah, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, v2, p172 (24) Dhaka’ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, p68 (25) Faydh al-Qadir, by al-Manawi, v6, p217 (26) Yanabi’ al-Mawaddah, by al-Qudoozi al-Hanafi, p297
@@thepr1ntgnome430so should I stop naming my son Hussein cuz of a guy called saddam hussein? So should I stop naming my son abdullah, because abdullah bin ubay was a known hypocrites in both Sunni and Shia schools?
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A better argument for “Umar ibn Ali” is that in both Sunni and Shia sources, his name was recorded as “عمرو” “Amr” and NOT “Umar”
his actual name was Amr ibn Abi Talib and the works of the Ahlul Sunnah confirm this:
1) Sunan by Abū ʿĪsā at-Tirmidhī
2) Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah by Ibn Abi Shaybah
3) Tahdhib al-tahdhib. book by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
4) Tahdhib al-Kamal fi Asma al-Rijal by Al-Hafidh al-Mizzi
5) Tafsir by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari
6) al-Binaya Sharh al-Hidaya by Abū Muḥammad Maḥmūd ibn Aḥmad ibn Mūsā Badr al-Din al-'Ayni
7) Jami' al tahsil fi ahkam al marasil by Salahuddin Abi Sa'id Ibn-Khalil Ibn Kaykary al 'Alaiy
Umar is written as عُمَر While ‘Amr is written as عَمْرو
Can you provide the exact references with page number
short and brief, but to the point. that's exactly what we need. thanks
Thank you, brother
Ahsant akhi ❤️
Sunni Aalims, try to justify, vindicate, defend their 3 Elders, by hook or crook, they leave no stone unturned to defend their 3 Elders. Frequently, Sunni Aalims cite the names of Imaam Ali a s. Sons as Imaam Ali a s. named his sons after, 3, caliphs names. Well clarified, solid proof, presented.
We don't say they were best friends and had perfect relationship with each other.They only say that with all the differences Ali and all previous caliphs had mutual respect and admiration for each other.
The major point is why are you calling yourself shia ul ali? Why not shia ul Mohammad?It tells use that it was a political movement of People who wanted Ali to be caliph and had nothing to do with Islam or Mohammad teachings.
@@wali9378Ghadeer khum, the Prophet sws declared Ali as the Successor. ‘Mawla’
Even Umar pledged his allegiance to Ali and said ‘congratulations today you have become the master of the Muslims’
Interestingly tho, when Mawla is translated from the Hadith of Ghadeer Khum it’s translated into friend.
But when Mawla is used to refere to Umar it is translated into Successor.
The Prophet also said to Ali, he is Like what Harun was like to Musa, except after him wil be no more Prophets.
If there’s no more Prophet after Prophet Muhammad sws, and Harun to Musa was his successor and a Prophet, than what’s left is Ali is his successor but not a Prophet.
Also many accounts where companions said they would have Given the pledge of Allegiance to Ali if it wasn’t for what happened in Saqifa. (Which Umar and Abu Bakr shouldn’t have been because the Prophet sws commanded them to leave Madina and Join Usamas Army.
Usamas Army was stationd waiting for their arrival but they delayed the Prophets sws command till his dying breath)
Let’s also not forget the Pen and Paper incident, why would Umar stop the Prophet sws from writing his will. It is a duty for a Muslim to leave a written will, but the Prophet sws was denied.
The companions were the Prophets best friends but something happened at the end of the Prophets life. Dunya took ahold of them. Regarding the Companions Allah swt tells the Prophet sws that the companions he recognises have turn apostate and renegades right after his death and they innovated in the religion. This is a Peophecy given to us by RasoolAllah sws.
Abu Bakars claim to the Caliphate and the peoples pledge of allegiance was pushed by Umar Ibn al Khattab, read the history, it wasn’t all rainbows and butterflies, it was a lot of persuasion and threats by Umar to get many of the People to pledge. Umar Ibn al Khattab was a staunch.
Jazakallah Kheir.
So the Shia of Ali are those who witnessed Ali’s succession after the Prophet sws.
Shia of Ali means Shia of nabi Muhammad sws because following Ali was nabi Muhammad’s sws command.
@@wali9378in histories opinion Saqifa was a political movement and had nothing to do with Islam and went directly against the Orders of the Prophet sws when Abu Bakr and Umar abandoned their posts.
(Which led up to the pen and paper incident, Abu Bakr leading prayers that Wasn’t ordered by the Prophet because the Prophet sws didn’t Order Abu Bakar by name to go to Usamas Army and also lead prayers at the same time.)
And right and the Prophet sws died they were fighting in Saqifa. Again not following the prophets commands.
Which one was Political and had nothing to do with Islam and the Prophet Muhammad?
I think Umar and Abu Bakar are the ones who put the Politics and Dunya above Deen and Islam.
@@BuHaoo if the prophet of Allah has commanded Muslims to follow Ali and Ali to be his successor then why did Ali pledge allegiance to first Abu bkr and then Umar?Why did he disobeyed the command of the Prophet or Allah by not becoming the successor and accepted the so called false caliphs?
And If Umar and Abu bkr were enemies of Ali then why did they would consult Ali in various problems and why did Umar made Ali the governor of Madina when Umar went to Jerusalem at the conquest of Jerusalem?
You are telling me to read history.I would tell you to read unbiased History not the shia side of the history.
Abu bkr Umar Ali all were close companions of prophets . Particularly Ali and Abu bkr were very close to Mohammad as they were with Mohammad from the very start till his death.Prophet Mohammad would burst in tears if he was alive and saw what shias are talking about Abu Bakr
رَبَّنَا افْتَحْ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَ قَوْمِنَا بِالْحَقِّ وَأَنتَ خَيْرُ ٱلْفَـٰتِحِينَ
his actual name was Amr ibn Abi Talib and the works of the Ahlul Sunnah confirm this:
1) Sunan by Abū ʿĪsā at-Tirmidhī
2) Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah by Ibn Abi Shaybah
3) Tahdhib al-tahdhib. book by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
4) Tahdhib al-Kamal fi Asma al-Rijal by Al-Hafidh al-Mizzi
5) Tafsir by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari
6) al-Binaya Sharh al-Hidaya by Abū Muḥammad Maḥmūd ibn Aḥmad ibn Mūsā Badr al-Din al-'Ayni
7) Jami' al tahsil fi ahkam al marasil by Salahuddin Abi Sa'id Ibn-Khalil Ibn Kaykary al 'Alaiy
Umar is written as عُمَر While ‘Amr is written as عَمْرو
Sunni Aalims, even say to the extent, Imaam Ali a s. Used to pray behind 3, caliphs. They say, Rasoolallah gave muslla to Abu bakkar, even, Rasoolallah prayed behind Abu bakkar as Imaam. It reflects, how they are defending their 3, Elders, caliphs. by hook or crook, meticulously they cite such points, to defend their elders.
You do know that Abu bkr was Mohammad best friend and was with him all his life and Abu bkr Ali and Hajra were the first ones to embrace Islam?
Let alone friend ,he was his best friend!Being his best friend, Ali too was like a son to him and Ali considered him like his father.
If Abu Bakr was misguided then he would have left Mohamad the day Mohammad started preaching Islam.Instead he stood by his side and faced all the hardships.
Have some common sense for God sake and stop disrespecting or belittling the dearest companions of Prophet!
@@wali9378I agree with what you’ve said, however can you explain why Abu Bakr didn’t follow the Prophets sws final command to March along side Osamas Army, also why he/they abandoned the Prophet sws burial?
I also believe Abu Bakr was the Prophets sws best friend during his life, but faces changed at the dying days of the Prophet sws and they began to disrespect his commands and accuse him of madness. The Prophet Commanded all of the Muhajireen to leave Madina just days before our beloved Prophet sws passed away. But the companions went against his orders rushed to Saqifa instead and had a heated debate amongst a select few people over who will rule. All whilst the rest of the Ummah was burying the prophet sws body.
Imagine if Umar and Abu Bakar were at their Posts at Usamas Army and not in Madina. None of this divide in Islam would have happened.
Subhanallah. For the Sake of Unity the Ahlul Bayt endured. However Allah is with the Oppressed and they were Guaranteed princess and princes of the heavens. The youths of Paradise. Alhamdullah, we all know whom Allah loved.
On worldly matters, there were always disagreements among prophet saw and his companions.that is not disrespectful.
Abu bakr changing at the death of prophet saw is ridiculous.Man in his 60s doesn't change.If Abu bakr had to change he should have changed and abandoned prophet when they were young and Abu bkr had everything on the line for the prophet.He left it all for his best friend because he was the first one who believed in him.Even before than Ali.
Regarding prophet saw buriel.who abandoned it? He died in the arms of Ayesha and buried in her home by Ali.The janaza Prayer was done one by one instead of a mass janaza as everyone would enter and prey and nobody was confirm who would lead the prayer.
Abu bakr and Omar went to the Shura because they were wise men and know what could happen if they didn't go.If they had not gone, we would not even have the time of khulafa e rashidun and direct fitna would have started right after the death of prophet.Ali trusted Omar and Abu bkr and their decision and so did Omar and Abu bkr trusted Ali.
The issue with you guys is that you guys ignore the obvious and commen sense and focus on the dubious stuff and make it into a huge deal.
Prophet saw respected and trusted and loved Abu bkr and Omar.And we should too.They might have made mistake and had flaws but we can not question their intention as prophet saw never did.Love what prophet loved.Hate what prophet hated.
You guys would try to do anything to proof imamate .Maybe Allah guide you
@@wali9378worldly matters? It's not disrespectful? How can someone have disagreement over the word of the Prophet of Allah, Abu Bakr was a hypocrite so was Umar and Uthman
@@Ihsgshshsjsjzj sahabas had disagreements over the words of prophets regarding worldly matters as prophet too was a human.read how sahabas would disagree with prophet over different strategies in wars.
disagreement over the Word of Allah was not allowed. Learn to differentiate.
Umar and Abu Bakr are Hypocrites only Shia Sources which were wriiten by?
IF they were hypocrites, Ali being iman as you call thhem would fought against them not pledge alligiance to them.Have some common sense
It is not the eyes who are blind but the hearts that are blind
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Al Baqra verse 154, Those Who laid down their lives in the Battlefield, they are alive, feeding them, don't say dead ( Momin Companions, Obedient, Amenable, Trustworthy, Unsuspicious, Candid Natured, towards Allah, Rasoolallah, Genuine Companions). After the Demise of Rasoolallah s a w. Some companions, stood by imaam Ali a s. Supported Ahlul Bayt, didn't oath, on the hands of 3 caliphs. They remained loyal to Ahlul Bayt 5, (Salman Farsi r a. Abuzar r a. Malik Ashtar, r a. ......).
We should ask sunnis to name their children "Israel".
How many people had the name of Ali?
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Uthman, who is the only person who got to marry 2 of the daughters of any prophet. Is the one you call in infidel.
These books are a fabrication. And a truly insult against our prophet sallalahu aleihi wa sallam
Why did he give his 2nd daughter after the First died only now to find out the man he gave them to is infidel. You do not even disgrace your imams with this statements.
So if marriage dictates righteousness, does that mean pharaoh is a good person? Because clearly Asiya married him, and the wives of Lut and Nuh are good people too? It’s very one dimensional thinking. Marrying someone doesn’t suddenly transform said person into a wonderful human being. Deeds and akhlaaq dictate righteousness
And don’t say sallahu alayhi wa sallam, say sallahu alayhi wa-ali wa sallam, don’t disgrace the prophet and his progeny with an incomplete salawat
@@miztermuzic I did not say it was because of the marriage.
But because he had given his daughters to this specific man. Of all the sahaba he had given only him 2 of his daughters.
After one passed away he have her another one of his daughters
You Wait
And i Will Wait
And Allah Will judge
Between you and me are the funeral prayers
After that we Will find out.
@@abm6072 Lut was going to give his daughters- plural, daughters to homosexuals, so the people of Lut are good now too. Multiplying the number still doesn’t make people good
Also where is the evidence such marriage took place, there is none
Never seen someone talking so much butch saying nothing hahahaha
Qur'an chapters called Mominoon Righteous Muslimeen. Munafiqoon, Hypocrite Muslimeen. During the period of prophet s a w. then Muslimeen were Companions. Amongst the companions there were Momin, Munafiq. Soon after the Demise of Rasoolallah s a w. Fitna started, by a few vested interests companions, negated declaration of Ghadeer sermon. Rasoolallah s a w. declared, Imaam Ali a s. As Imaam, Caliph of Ummah. negated by So called Caliphs.
And who are the righteous Muslims and mominoon among the sahaba?
@@titangamer1790 Al Baqra verse 154, Those Who laid down their lives in the Battlefield, they are alive, feeding them, don't say dead.( Momin companions, Obedient, Amenable, Trustworthy, Unsuspicious, Candid Natured towards Allah, Rasoolallah, Genuine Companions). After the Demise of Rasoolallah s a w. Some Companions stood by imaam Ali a s, supported Ahlul Bayt 5, considered Imaam Ali a s. As Imaam, Caliph of Ummah,as per the declaration of Ghadeer sermon. ( Salman Farsi r a. Abuzar, r a. Malik Ashtar, Bilal Habshi r a. .....) They remain loyal to Ahlul Bayt, stood by imaam Ali a s. didn't oath on the hands of 3 caliphs. ( Those stood by imaam Hussain a s. at karbala fought against yazeed, laid down their lives, Momin Muslimeen, either they were companions or sons of companions. ). Rasoolallah s a w. legitimate Imaams of Ummah 12, if we believe firmly their legitimacy, it's a sign of Momin.
First of all, Malik al Ashtar wasn't a sahabi, he was a Tabi'i. Secondly, can you give me a list of the sahaba who were loyal to Ali and the Ahlulbayt (as)!
@@titangamer1790 Malik Ashtar, participated in Jamal war, companion of Imaam Ali a s. You can have information from scholars, Zarq Naqvi official. Truth With Reference, scholar Sheikh Wazir Hussain Turabi.
@@tameemansari707
But he's not a companion of Rasulallah (SAWS). We are talking about prominent companions of the Prophet that were loyal or were close to Imam Ali (AS).
We already know about Salman al Mohammadi, Abu Dharr al-Ghifari, Miqdad ibn Aswad, Ammar bin Yasir, and Bilal ibn Rabah.
But who else we're among the prominent sahaba!
Rafidh kazzaab!
cry more, you can't refute it you run away by saying it's lies 😂
@@MhmdBDRD When the name of Omar RA is said, why do Shias (esp. Scholars) get up and leave the dias, or the stage?
@@Abdullah..........
Because we are ordered to stay away from the shaytan 😂
@@MhmdBDRD You actually got it opposite, Rafidh! It goes like this:
Prophet Muhammad once said to Umar ibn al-Khattab, “Shaytan does not see you take a path, O Umar, except that he takes a path other than yours”.
Which means that Shaitan used to run away from Umar RA. Now look at the truthfulness of Rasulullah SAW, Subhan'Allah, that even after 14 centuries, Shayateen and children of iblis, (which are most of shias, aka rawafidh), run away even at the mention of name of Omar RA like they used to when he was alive. 😆😆😆😆
@@Abdullah..........
Alhmdullah Allah made our enemies stupid
You idiot firstly you can't bring a hadith from your your books that are not an authority over me that I see that they are fabricated by deviant scholars that you follow blindly, learn how to argue dumbass
Secondly, your books say that the iblis used to whisper to the prophet and used to be in his house and in his heart yet from Umar he would run away, who is better then the prophet or Umar, indeed your prophet is Umar not Muhammad, see how you are astray and how stupid you are, you have no problem insulting the prophet for Umar following fabricated hadiths blindly, the one who used to run away in every battle was Umar the she goat, and all of this is from your books, that's how an argument is made, dumbass 🤣🤣🤣
May Allah guide you all. Who curse those that Allah said He was pleased with. Who curse those that Allah called the mothers of the muslimeen. You have created such a mockery of the religion of the Prophet of Allah, Peace and blessings be upon you.
Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya:
I asked my father (`Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then `Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person.
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ كَثِيرٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا جَامِعُ بْنُ أَبِي رَاشِدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو يَعْلَى، عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ ابْنِ الْحَنَفِيَّةِ، قَالَ قُلْتُ لأَبِي أَىُّ النَّاسِ خَيْرٌ بَعْدَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ. قُلْتُ ثُمَّ مَنْ قَالَ ثُمَّ عُمَرُ. وَخَشِيتُ أَنْ يَقُولَ عُثْمَانُ قُلْتُ ثُمَّ أَنْتَ قَالَ مَا أَنَا إِلاَّ رَجُلٌ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3671
In-book reference : Book 62, Hadith 21
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 5, Book 57, Hadith 20
🤣 good fabricated Hadith
The guy LITERALLY said use from our sources🤣
LMAO abu bakr is best haha. then why in ghadeer prophet did not took his hand or why did Prophet said Ali is leader of people in paradise. etc etc i can go on
Mashallah 💀 and you guys claim you love Ali
@@hhhggs1 what is sahih bukhari?
the 1st 7 generations of the descendants of Ali have lots of "Aesha", "Umar" and "Abu Bakr".
It is so obvious ahlulbayt never hated them like today's devout shias who never name their children these names.
Literally 3 names you hate the most and Ali R.A. called them those hahahah wAllahi i know ur seething that he named them that. You literally have to do mental gymnastics and convince yourselves to beleive this. In your heart you know youre lying wAllahii may Allah give you eternal jahnam and no chance for repentance
Sunnis following sunnah or Umar and running from facts 🏃
What about the other imams?
Did they also do taqiyya or where there other umars abubakrs and uthmans around that were named after them?
And why do shias today boycott these names?
It seems we don't follow them the way they are to be followed.
There are SHIAS that have name of ATIQ now a days, the real name of First khalifa. And we don't keep these UMAR, USMAN Name cos We prefer naming our children on names of EHL E BAIT cos they are our Imams.
Why do you have to name someone after another person? And yes they were common names. Usually the names we give for our children are just based on the society we grew up in
You guys forget the point, this is really a dumb idea, to call your children the names of your wife's killers or your mother or grandmother's killers.
These are nowadays names that are cursed daily, in your eyes these names are worse than calling your kids fir'oun or nimrod lol
So many good names like you yourself said and still call them the names of the common khulafa. If they had ilme ghaib wouldn't they know that this argument would be used against their shias?
@@thepr1ntgnome430The Messenger of Allah declared: "It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. I am leaving for you two precious things and if you adhere both of them, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The two shall never separate from each other until they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise)."
Then the Messenger of Allah continued: "Do I not have more right over the believers than what they have over themselves?”People cried and answered: "Yes, O’ Messenger of God.”Then Prophet (S) held up the hand of ‘Ali and said: "Whoever I am his leader (Mawla), ‘Ali is his leader (Mawla). O’ God, love those who love him, and be hostile to those who are hostile to him."
ألَسْتُ أولى بالمؤمنين من أنفسهم؟ قالوا بلى يارسول الله. قال: من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه. اللهم وال من والاه و عاد من عاداه.
Some of the Sunni references:
(1) Sahih Tirmidhi, v2, p298, v5, p63
(2) Sunan Ibn Maja, v1, pp 12,43
(3) Khasa’is, by al-Nisa’i, pp 4,21
(4) al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p129, v3, pp 109-110,116,371
(5) Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, pp 84,118,119,152,330, v4, pp 281,368,370, 372,378, v5, pp 35,347,358,361,366,419 (from 40 chains of narrators)
(6) Fada’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Hanbal, v2, pp 563,572
(7) Majma’ al-Zawa’id, by al-Haythami, v9, p103 (from several transmitters)
(8) Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, v12, pp 49-50
(9) Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthur, by al-Hafiz Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, v3, p19
(10) Tarikh al-Khulafa, by al-Suyuti, pp 169,173
(11) al-Bidayah wal-Nihayah, by Ibn Kathir, v3, p213, v5, p208
(12) Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn Athir, v4, p114
(13) Mushkil al-Athar, by al-Tahawi, v2, pp 307-308
(14) Habib al-Siyar, by Mir Khand, v1, part 3, p144
(15) Sawaiq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, p26
(16) al-Isabah, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v2, p509; v1, part1, p319, v2, part1, p57, v3, part1, p29, v4, part 1, pp 14,16,143
(17) Tabarani, who narrated from companions such as Ibn Umar, Malik Ibn al-Hawirath, Habashi Ibn Junadah, Jari, Sa’d Ibn Abi Waqqas, Anas Ibn Malik, Ibn Abbas, Amarah,Buraydah,...
(18) Tarikh, by al-Khatib Baghdadi, v8, p290
(19) Hilyatul Awliya’, by al-Hafiz Abu Nu’aym, v4, p23, v5, pp26-27
(20) al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, Chapter of word "ayn”(‘Ali), v2, p462
(21) Kanzul Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, v6, pp 154,397
(22) al-Mirqat, v5, p568
(23) al-Riyad al-Nadirah, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, v2, p172
(24) Dhaka’ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, p68
(25) Faydh al-Qadir, by al-Manawi, v6, p217
(26) Yanabi’ al-Mawaddah, by al-Qudoozi al-Hanafi, p297
@@thepr1ntgnome430so should I stop naming my son Hussein cuz of a guy called saddam hussein? So should I stop naming my son abdullah, because abdullah bin ubay was a known hypocrites in both Sunni and Shia schools?