@phumzilemdumbe906 This is Stilfontein not Krugersdorp. The situation is different, the illegal miners are the youth from our community we know them personally.
We need to investigate Newzroom Afrika in a deep way. At every juncture they are almost anti South Africa and pro criminality. Always on the side of perpetrators or violence and hardly ever considering the real victims of illicit activities.
We are all victims of white supremacy in SA but you say nothing about that. But you want to kill your brothers who are Africans. You are no better than Apartheids oppressors.
Exactly. They always wanna to push towards a certain narrative of their own. In KZN criminal were attacking the police. Conveniently for this channel they started questioning the operation of the police without any regard for the innocent police that die on duty everyday. They are starting to disgust me. Their reporting is one sided.
The amount of sympathy criminals received in this country get is unbelievable. It is clear now, law abiding citizens can suffer no problem, but criminals must be protected.
3 months is long they must be weak to come out,think before you act,what if they were hired to do illegal things guess we will never know if their died, isn't it? & for the men & women in blue its their job to serve,protect & to prevent and stop crime.
Free free free Palestinians but no! Black men zama zamas are criminals,so which life matters the most that of politicians,police,farmer,shop keepers,musicians,religions,doctors,pilots every life matters whether criminal or not every life matters,if its 3 months down there then send the people they know check if they're armored,communicate send medic,don't kill them so that they can live to tell the story.
I hate when people use EFF because of their humanity,and love for the people you relinquished that right when y'all voted for ANC-DA government to power,how long will this poverty driven mentality will you endure,ANC has proven many times that its a PR government,it will never love you SANs,yet they love Palestinans from far away,they're fake in nature worst beings ever lived,31years of nothing fat lies,DA doesn't hide their hate for black people atleast you know where you stand with them,ANC on the other hand pretends,"fake it till you make it",suffering is coming next for y'all SANs,ANC hates black men with every atom in their bodies.😢😢😢
@@WamoAfrica But the minister is from the ANC and making the final say that says smoke them out .The EFF should sign indemnity forms and help them out if they want and stop with the rant .
@frankyyaggabot6222 Well if they choose not to grow a backbone and make an effort to control their own lives, then they must suffer the consequences of their hubris. We are impacted by corruption, malfeasance, looting in the top echelons of government as well as with these bottom feeders. My children are dying from poison, the inequalities destroying communities. I understand the complexities, but these mining consortiums are pure criminality. We must not now to them.
People who would wanna kill you in holes for hustling without hurting anyone,is the people you think are serving your fights & interest at heart as a human being,EFF didn't send those people to zama zama DANC government did that,mind you me those men underground are black men,no women so next time it might be you in some sticky situation,would you say it will be fair,because black men are hated everywhere in the whole world,when the colonisers did it,it was no crime but when done by black men is a crime,go on,maybe later you will realize it when its too late.
Yhooo!!😮😮 I dont believe South Africans, what do you really want, izolo oku benikhalaza ukuba izama,zama are doing crime and all that, they told many cases that are committed by zama zama now same citizens are blaming the government and the police😮😮 stop being hypocrites haybo, nitsho ngamatshanda apha including the presenter you are so embarrassing and disappointing because you know very well the stories about zama zama, forget what Ntshabeni said Newsroom Africa is disappointing
There has been a call, from years ago, to this zama zamas to stop with this illegal mining activities but they showed no interest to. Lawlessness need to be stopped ASAP before foreigners take over our beloved country
Perhaps the community and everyone who has a concern should be given one last opportunity to go in and retrieve their relatives as they seem to know each other
Who are we supposed to send? Other human beings? Law abiding human beings? So we want to send healthy human police beings to an unstable mine where they could possibly get held as ransome or become traumatised by the conditions? I think those who want to go down to rescue them can go and do so freely but not our police service. Thandeka, go save your brother. Crime is crime sisi.
The strange part about this is that no one is talking about how the illegal miners have terrorized the community in some parts of the country like Krugersdorp, surely these guys knew the consequences of such unlawful activities before they went underground, this is another indication that criminals have more rights in our country than civilians, these guys will not commit such crime in their countries because they know that the laws are more severe than SA, maybe the minister`s words where hash but we need to protect the constitution of the country the rule of law must prevail, Thandeka and the rest have been the beneficiary of this crime yet no one have reported such illegal activities.
It's very sad that criminals will be so much protected despite the wrongs they are doing. We have land shakes every now and then, worse when some will come illegally from their countries to come and do criminal activities in SA why don't they do that in their countries. The law should be respected .Sinkholes are everywhere since the dawn of this illegal mining
Those illegal miners came all the way from foreign countries to commit crime and SA law inforxement must use the South African resources protecting people who are committing crime. The family members of those people were assisting them giving them food and medicines. Families must take the responsibilities of helping their brothers.
Yeah crime has a race & its black,well done good job 🎉,those who conquered you mined the grounds without license yet they were not criminals,someone who kills is a murderer,someone who steals is a thief,the grounds we walk on,& underneath is owned by who no one so what is their crime,to take their share of the resources or because they don't have jobs so their crime is to kill,steal what does not belong to them,what exactly are their crime?
@@CalvinI2twinnsYa you are correct,even the white man who stole millions from Eskom and SA government went to fetch him to face his music and Indians who stole money from Eskom contracts.So it depends on what you want to see🙄
One had to be cruel in order to be kind, South Africa had to draw a line in the sand never to cross it, this should be a deterrent for those who are planning to go down, this thugs must know that going down the mine illegally one must know they are doing that at their own risk, they had to find creative ways to get themselves out of the mess they put themselves in
Minister Khombozu u have said a mouthful,straigh4 talk does not break friendship,th trapped has chosen that and consequences are a must,there are alternative way like vendoring,to curb unemployment to say the rest!
Illigal miners are heavily armed, more armed than SANDF with assault rifles, who is going to take responsibility when ppl start getting shot hundreds of kilometers underground? We have to use common sense sometimes. Government risking the lives of rescuers over situations that are self inflicted and dangerous
@@tlangelanimayimele9956 it's a pun, the holes are also not hundreds of km s underground. It's used to emphasize a point, it's not meant to be taken literally. Must we teach u everything
"As EFF " his introduction just gave it away that he cares more about his party more than the wellness of our country that's why we wont move forward as a country
When these illegal miners are busy digging our minerals they dont contribute to share to SARS, yet when they are stuck there our tax money must be used to help? We as tax payer also need a break from paying tax can we be afforded that????
They are breaking the law. Let them come out and face the law. We cannot continue pussy footing around crime. Whoever is defending the behaviour of zama zamas must really examine him or herself. We all have a choice not to do crime
This EFF guy is dom. What does he mean those people didn't go under there by choice where they forced to go down there? They chose that life. I wish all the police men and women of this country decide to resign and let those people thats in support of these criminals must be rescued. Let them come and fight these criminals. The police men and women also got families, and here, these people thats against the Ministers words, expect the police to go rescue them for those criminals to hold our police to ransom thats crazy. Let EEF go down there and all those criminals' families, including these organizations thats in favor of these criminals.
Police do something, they are wrong. They don't do anything, they are still wrong. Kanti what must happen South Africans?????? Bhinqani'nyaniso, nithiy'ubuxoki
Patriotic Front is stating facts. We cannot have people who do not follow laws when others are following laws. There is a conflict of interest here. Zama Zama's according to police were given ample time to come out since Dec but they simply refuse. Because of their decision to refuse and resist arrest, we are being emotionally being blackmailed by those who have vested interest in this mining enterprise. I might as well say a brother who steal from wealthy suburbs is a decent man as he brings money home and looks after his family from the proceeds of crime. RULE OF LAW will be restored
Why re they being begged for their own lives?im really confused...those who values their lives came out ...they chose to stay there....they dont want to leave the gold there...greed is keeping them underground...
They are armed with assuslt rifles and there are almost 5000 of them. Which police minister or police general is going to risk such an impossible mission? Use ur brain, the miners need to come out themselves, if they get stuck as miners what hope does our parents in uniform have in those tunnels deep underground, use ur brain
We are a country that is Governed by law, and if we are going to hold back the law on these individuals, we might lose the law, a lot of people will do things in hopes that they will get away with the law. As they entered the shaft, they made the choice. They must face the consequences of their own choices.
Chad,you talking sense sir.those are the ones who are supposed to be delt with.but the problem is,who are they??these guys need to mention every single stream line
A misunderstanding of the English language again. Smoke them out does not mean to light a fire and send smoke down, smoke rises, it would be difficult to send it down. e.g. If someone is stealing your food at work, you set a trap, you put something disgusting on your bread to 'smoke them out'. These are criminals, armed, who have previously claimed to not be afraid of the police. How do they expect anyone else to retrieve them from underground? How stupid is that comment, they chose to go down, it is their choice to come out, their lives are in their own hands. Illegal mining is theft, nothing makes it right. They stay and starve or come out and go to prison.
My thought is that the minister was wrong She was suppose to say we will try thou we know they won’t and just to juggle your mind remember Marikana issue These people are forced to do what they do because of our government failed us
The problem with us we don't like the truth we rap around the truth now its time to call a spit a spit. This country was taken by criminals more than 30yrs ago. Now lets fix what is broken
A life of a person matters yes but if that person doesn't care about their own life why must we be guilt tripped to feel for them? South Africans ALWAYS protect criminals it's sad. Unfortunately they made a choice to go down there on their own.
Please, please Mr minister help those people,, they are didn't not still anyone property, there's no a case of stealing any one property,, if someone his already reported of be stealing his property yes they can be arrested, no jobs in sout africa
These are members of the community, which the government has ignored. They are not "criminals ", they are bread winners. Who is buying what they are digging? Why cant the government open and run the mine, instead of criminalizing black poverty?
Mine owners should seal the place when they move why should it be the government problem with our tax while someone was making millions out of the mine
Whose the owner of the minerals which is being mined ilegal is it gvmnt property or its for everyone who live on earth who exacly is responsible for the minerals on this earth 😢
Good questions ✊🏾 whose actually a criminal here for mining your own share of your resources that is not accounted for,actually the criminals are the ones who claims to govern us without creating jobs,its really sad that we have to suffer for the useless minds of other people who can't think.
Our government suppose to lock in this gentleman I think he knows something he is the one who recruited this people for the zama zama I think this guy is a big fish
@@elkaydivine Mumbling he says,EFF said nationalization of mines,y'all said EFF enemy number one,because DA masters said it 1st,and now they're mumbling as always your thinking small does not serve the world.
Going at it in the wrong way wanting to fight crime from the bottom up. If you catch and prosecute the top layer, then the middle and bottom layers will fall away automatically. But we do not have the appetite to take on the top layers as that is where the politically connected are.
Were the abandoned mine shafts made safe and secure? NO so who the owner is they along with Government should address the matter and put in measures to make them safe and seal them to prevent entry making them secure. Just like a problem property and illegal occupation. It is due to the abondonment and lack of management that all hell breaks loose. Take ownership of securing properties interms of owners and our security and safety, health and safety and disaster management governmental departments should be there to save the lives and then measures need to be put in place to ensure the ownes secure the abandoned mines to prevent injury be it illegal mining, sink holes or other due to un managed property.
Criminality is a choice. I'm very hungry, haven't been employed in years now but I'm never going to start robbing, stealing or dealing with illegal tradings.
What about the MITTAL STEAL AT Vanderbilpark they are facing same problem . Illegal immigrants they brake in everyday there to steal copper using shafts underneath the factory. Some spend days inside factory cutting cables and they are also armed. Is a problem for Mittal steal.
Can the SABC please redo the stories on Zama Zamas so that people can be reminded how vile these people are?
They'll never, these are bints.
2 years back in Krugersdorp 8, women were gang raped by zama zamas whilst they were filming next to the minedamp. People have forgotten
May you become so economically destitute that you find yourself having to go dig for gold in deserted mines and then maybe you'll learn some sympathy
@@tshepoblom716Sympathy for criminals? You are insane!
@phumzilemdumbe906 This is Stilfontein not Krugersdorp. The situation is different, the illegal miners are the youth from our community we know them personally.
Minister is right crime is crime
Facts
I concur with minister
I fully agree with you.
We need to investigate Newzroom Afrika in a deep way. At every juncture they are almost anti South Africa and pro criminality. Always on the side of perpetrators or violence and hardly ever considering the real victims of illicit activities.
I don't listen to anything they say anymore, not even sure how this UA-cam clip was in my feed and I desregard anything they say
We are all victims of white supremacy in SA but you say nothing about that. But you want to kill your brothers who are Africans. You are no better than Apartheids oppressors.
Yes ive notice this and their style of reporting and interviews are anti-citizens.
Exactly. They always wanna to push towards a certain narrative of their own. In KZN criminal were attacking the police. Conveniently for this channel they started questioning the operation of the police without any regard for the innocent police that die on duty everyday. They are starting to disgust me. Their reporting is one sided.
Thandeka should be arrested she knew her brother been involved in illegal mining and kept quiet. Crime is crime klaar.
The amount of sympathy criminals received in this country get is unbelievable. It is clear now, law abiding citizens can suffer no problem, but criminals must be protected.
Spot on. It's time we take back our rights since ANC misplaced them with foreigners
Your concern is criminals and want to blame the minister. Who must rescue them
thy must come out ,
They don't want to come out
3 months is long they must be weak to come out,think before you act,what if they were hired to do illegal things guess we will never know if their died, isn't it? & for the men & women in blue its their job to serve,protect & to prevent and stop crime.
"A life of a person is important." yes... but should we risk the lives our men and women in blue to rescue people who don't wanna come out?
no, thy are there for other things,
Free free free Palestinians but no! Black men zama zamas are criminals,so which life matters the most that of politicians,police,farmer,shop keepers,musicians,religions,doctors,pilots every life matters whether criminal or not every life matters,if its 3 months down there then send the people they know check if they're armored,communicate send medic,don't kill them so that they can live to tell the story.
You're a special kind of stupid
No
The EFF must go and assist those people and let us see them become heroes
I hate when people use EFF because of their humanity,and love for the people you relinquished that right when y'all voted for ANC-DA government to power,how long will this poverty driven mentality will you endure,ANC has proven many times that its a PR government,it will never love you SANs,yet they love Palestinans from far away,they're fake in nature worst beings ever lived,31years of nothing fat lies,DA doesn't hide their hate for black people atleast you know where you stand with them,ANC on the other hand pretends,"fake it till you make it",suffering is coming next for y'all SANs,ANC hates black men with every atom in their bodies.😢😢😢
Is the eff the governing party?? Why not mention ANC and da
@@WamoAfrica ANC and DA are not saying the criminals must be assisted
@@Technology24 but their government. They are the final word.. EFF are just useless rants.
@@WamoAfrica But the minister is from the ANC and making the final say that says smoke them out .The EFF should sign indemnity forms and help them out if they want and stop with the rant .
Thandeka must go and fetch her brother. No one is holding her to go fetch her brother
Exactly. She's been enjoying the illegal money so let her go there.
Yes a group of them as a family can go in and convince them to come out. Or assist in the manpower coarse.
I agree
What exactly is gov being accused of here, are the police trapping those people down there?
They were sent food and water but refuse to come out while still continuing to mine. We can't negotiate with criminals.
It's more complex - most of the people down there are in the employ of gangs. They don't have the choice to make that decision.
@frankyyaggabot6222 Well if they choose not to grow a backbone and make an effort to control their own lives, then they must suffer the consequences of their hubris. We are impacted by corruption, malfeasance, looting in the top echelons of government as well as with these bottom feeders. My children are dying from poison, the inequalities destroying communities. I understand the complexities, but these mining consortiums are pure criminality. We must not now to them.
They made a choice to stay underground.
2026 is the actual time to get rid of EFF seriously now
Keep on dreaming
People who would wanna kill you in holes for hustling without hurting anyone,is the people you think are serving your fights & interest at heart as a human being,EFF didn't send those people to zama zama DANC government did that,mind you me those men underground are black men,no women so next time it might be you in some sticky situation,would you say it will be fair,because black men are hated everywhere in the whole world,when the colonisers did it,it was no crime but when done by black men is a crime,go on,maybe later you will realize it when its too late.
@nthabibotsi9855 like you dreamed of governig the country and actually being demoted to 4th position
true..
Bull shit . This is organised crime and big money involved .
As long as you support the crime you must not cry about the crime tomorrow
Thandeka's brother he's continuing doing what he's known about "Crime"
Yhooo!!😮😮 I dont believe South Africans, what do you really want, izolo oku benikhalaza ukuba izama,zama are doing crime and all that, they told many cases that are committed by zama zama now same citizens are blaming the government and the police😮😮 stop being hypocrites haybo, nitsho ngamatshanda apha including the presenter you are so embarrassing and disappointing because you know very well the stories about zama zama, forget what Ntshabeni said Newsroom Africa is disappointing
Because they thought that all Zama Zammas were foreigners. Now kubuhlungu ngoba they are fellow South Africans
I agree with you FaithMketo.
So the government must save gangsters?
Government must follow law and serve the public, irregardless of who they think they are. With your fine a$$!
@fikilemabaso3775 🙌🏼mntungwa,mbulaz’omnyama💐
Imagine 🙆♀️
Half the Government ARE gangsters.
they must leave them in there
PA you got my vote on that
There has been a call, from years ago, to this zama zamas to stop with this illegal mining activities but they showed no interest to. Lawlessness need to be stopped ASAP before foreigners take over our beloved country
Perhaps the community and everyone who has a concern should be given one last opportunity to go in and retrieve their relatives as they seem to know each other
I bet🤞🏽these community leaders are beneficiaries. Their the middle men here
Tell them there is water, food and shelter even education in prison. They must come out if they want help.
Cone out how? To come out you need to be pull out from the top by people outside.
I saw that u are from stilfontein i see u know much, did u help bringing them up?
@@TankieBolekewhat do you mean come out how? they must come out the way they went in
Beautiful well said statement from Minister, let dos who benefit out of this illegal act go inside hell hole and rescue them simple as that,.
How decent 😮when he's still committing crime, hay noko sisi you're justifying your brother's criminality
So the life of criminals is more important than that of SAPS and rescuers???
When join army there r duties u r signing to do if dont agree with those u go home dont talk kaka yakho
@mzozukopeterfuba6962 kaka yelephuma emlonyeni wakho mnqundu wenja
Thandeka has the nerve to say all those things on national TV.
Wow imagine😮
Its funny that the presidency is harsh on zama zamas(mining) but quiet on illegal spazas
Who are we supposed to send? Other human beings? Law abiding human beings? So we want to send healthy human police beings to an unstable mine where they could possibly get held as ransome or become traumatised by the conditions?
I think those who want to go down to rescue them can go and do so freely but not our police service. Thandeka, go save your brother. Crime is crime sisi.
They’re not stuck, they’re just unwilling to come out to face the law; also, EFF guy didn’t get asked the same question;
The strange part about this is that no one is talking about how the illegal miners have terrorized the community in some parts of the country like Krugersdorp, surely these guys knew the consequences of such unlawful activities before they went underground, this is another indication that criminals have more rights in our country than civilians, these guys will not commit such crime in their countries because they know that the laws are more severe than SA, maybe the minister`s words where hash but we need to protect the constitution of the country the rule of law must prevail, Thandeka and the rest have been the beneficiary of this crime yet no one have reported such illegal activities.
They must arrest Thandeka as well
I fully agree she’s been very vocal forgetting that this is criminal element
It's very sad that criminals will be so much protected despite the wrongs they are doing. We have land shakes every now and then, worse when some will come illegally from their countries to come and do criminal activities in SA why don't they do that in their countries. The law should be respected .Sinkholes are everywhere since the dawn of this illegal mining
Are we going to legalize all criminal activities 😂
Who must go underground EFF members can go
Those illegal miners came all the way from foreign countries to commit crime and SA law inforxement must use the South African resources protecting people who are committing crime. The family members of those people were assisting them giving them food and medicines. Families must take the responsibilities of helping their brothers.
She is right those are criminals
Yeah crime has a race & its black,well done good job 🎉,those who conquered you mined the grounds without license yet they were not criminals,someone who kills is a murderer,someone who steals is a thief,the grounds we walk on,& underneath is owned by who no one so what is their crime,to take their share of the resources or because they don't have jobs so their crime is to kill,steal what does not belong to them,what exactly are their crime?
@@CalvinI2twinnsYa you are correct,even the white man who stole millions from Eskom and SA government went to fetch him to face his music and Indians who stole money from Eskom contracts.So it depends on what you want to see🙄
@@CalvinI2twinnsmaybe they could get permits to mine.
Let'm stay under there. It's their own will. #Phan_sing_eZimba_mgodi.
Send your news room staff to go help, you guys are obviously very concerned
One had to be cruel in order to be kind, South Africa had to draw a line in the sand never to cross it, this should be a deterrent for those who are planning to go down, this thugs must know that going down the mine illegally one must know they are doing that at their own risk, they had to find creative ways to get themselves out of the mess they put themselves in
Minister Khombozu u have said a mouthful,straigh4 talk does not break friendship,th trapped has chosen that and consequences are a must,there are alternative way like vendoring,to curb unemployment to say the rest!
Illigal miners are heavily armed, more armed than SANDF with assault rifles, who is going to take responsibility when ppl start getting shot hundreds of kilometers underground? We have to use common sense sometimes. Government risking the lives of rescuers over situations that are self inflicted and dangerous
More armed than SANDF, uyabheda.
@thembisibanyoni4435 it's called sarcasm, go back to school
No one says anyone must go underground but allow volunteers to help then arrest them .
İllegal miners are armed more than SANDF,, Please research
@@tlangelanimayimele9956 it's a pun, the holes are also not hundreds of km s underground. It's used to emphasize a point, it's not meant to be taken literally. Must we teach u everything
She is right
"As EFF " his introduction just gave it away that he cares more about his party more than the wellness of our country that's why we wont move forward as a country
Nothing positive coming from EFF.
Amandla minister👍👍❤️❤️
Wethu
Don't send nothing to them they are clever and dangerous and thandeka must be arrested she also benefited from his brother
When these illegal miners are busy digging our minerals they dont contribute to share to SARS, yet when they are stuck there our tax money must be used to help? We as tax payer also need a break from paying tax can we be afforded that????
Well said @lerato🎉
They are breaking the law. Let them come out and face the law. We cannot continue pussy footing around crime. Whoever is defending the behaviour of zama zamas must really examine him or herself. We all have a choice not to do crime
I thought the right to life was absolute!
They have right to life its them deciding to stay in holes
Elections are done
NW province is a lawless province for a long time in terms of crime.
This EFF guy is dom. What does he mean those people didn't go under there by choice where they forced to go down there? They chose that life. I wish all the police men and women of this country decide to resign and let those people thats in support of these criminals must be rescued. Let them come and fight these criminals. The police men and women also got families, and here, these people thats against the Ministers words, expect the police to go rescue them for those criminals to hold our police to ransom thats crazy. Let EEF go down there and all those criminals' families, including these organizations thats in favor of these criminals.
Bathong those people went underground by choice. Even now they have a choice to live or die.
THIS IS A VERY BIG CHANCE FOR EFF TO SHOW THE SOUTH AFRICANS THAT ITS A GREAT PARTY BY HELPING THE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE MINE.
🙄🤦 please
Two wrongs can not make a right.
They went down by choice wena domkop.
Police do something, they are wrong.
They don't do anything, they are still wrong.
Kanti what must happen South Africans??????
Bhinqani'nyaniso, nithiy'ubuxoki
But why are they not coming out?
Patriotic Front is stating facts. We cannot have people who do not follow laws when others are following laws.
There is a conflict of interest here.
Zama Zama's according to police were given ample time to come out since Dec but they simply refuse. Because of their decision to refuse and resist arrest, we are being emotionally being blackmailed by those who have vested interest in this mining enterprise.
I might as well say a brother who steal from wealthy suburbs is a decent man as he brings money home and looks after his family from the proceeds of crime.
RULE OF LAW will be restored
How is government going to do that? By putting the lives of other people in danger? After all the criminality and negotiations? Caman
Why re they being begged for their own lives?im really confused...those who values their lives came out ...they chose to stay there....they dont want to leave the gold there...greed is keeping them underground...
Thandeka you are indeed insane. We shall not sympathize with criminals.
what will happen if they all die underground whilst you guarding the shaft no food no water, would you left the shaft smiling?
its their choice, thy went down willingly, so stop the food and water
@@eisbeinGermanycome fam
They are armed with assuslt rifles and there are almost 5000 of them. Which police minister or police general is going to risk such an impossible mission? Use ur brain, the miners need to come out themselves, if they get stuck as miners what hope does our parents in uniform have in those tunnels deep underground, use ur brain
Every action have results no one force them to stay in hole
They have a choice to come up but are refusing
Proverbs 14:31:
"Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God."
We are a country that is Governed by law, and if we are going to hold back the law on these individuals, we might lose the law, a lot of people will do things in hopes that they will get away with the law. As they entered the shaft, they made the choice. They must face the consequences of their own choices.
Remember the hordes of Zama Zama that graped those young girls filming a music video?
Chad,you talking sense sir.those are the ones who are supposed to be delt with.but the problem is,who are they??these guys need to mention every single stream line
they go underground by choice,most of the time in life you have a choice.
This county is CURSED shame I want to move away from it
This is quite sad, even though they are doing wrong. All these men want is to earn a living 😢however they still need to go to jail and stay there.
Malema must come and help them he's got big mouth now is quite
A misunderstanding of the English language again. Smoke them out does not mean to light a fire and send smoke down, smoke rises, it would be difficult to send it down. e.g. If someone is stealing your food at work, you set a trap, you put something disgusting on your bread to 'smoke them out'. These are criminals, armed, who have previously claimed to not be afraid of the police. How do they expect anyone else to retrieve them from underground? How stupid is that comment, they chose to go down, it is their choice to come out, their lives are in their own hands. Illegal mining is theft, nothing makes it right. They stay and starve or come out and go to prison.
Proverbs 3:27
Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to do it.
My thought is that the minister was wrong
She was suppose to say we will try thou we know they won’t and just to juggle your mind remember Marikana issue
These people are forced to do what they do because of our government failed us
90% is illegals so how can Sa fail them their countries failed them
The problem with us we don't like the truth we rap around the truth now its time to call a spit a spit. This country was taken by criminals more than 30yrs ago. Now lets fix what is broken
Yeah, she was quite callous with the statement even though the gist of it is correct. Can't be seen funding criminals
Stop excusing criminals!
Proverbs 21:13: "Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered."
A life of a person matters yes but if that person doesn't care about their own life why must we be guilt tripped to feel for them?
South Africans ALWAYS protect criminals it's sad. Unfortunately they made a choice to go down there on their own.
did you hear that eff member on the phone. he said those folks didnot go under ground by choice.
Please, please Mr minister help those people,, they are didn't not still anyone property, there's no a case of stealing any one property,, if someone his already reported of be stealing his property yes they can be arrested, no jobs in sout africa
Eff 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂the
These are members of the community, which the government has ignored. They are not "criminals ", they are bread winners. Who is buying what they are digging? Why cant the government open and run the mine, instead of criminalizing black poverty?
Those are criminal in hidding. They were told come out
Mine owners should seal the place when they move why should it be the government problem with our tax while someone was making millions out of the mine
Mr Ciliers complaining about people coming from foreign countries to benefit of South African peoples birth right is rich.
Whose the owner of the minerals which is being mined ilegal is it gvmnt property or its for everyone who live on earth who exacly is responsible for the minerals on this earth 😢
Good answer
Good question meaning to say
@@ZwelakheMthembu-rd5pm seemed police minister abandoned land
You cannot come in Sa illegal and steal its resources
Good questions ✊🏾 whose actually a criminal here for mining your own share of your resources that is not accounted for,actually the criminals are the ones who claims to govern us without creating jobs,its really sad that we have to suffer for the useless minds of other people who can't think.
This people are in different some are citizens of South Africa
But gangsters!
Fact!
They don’t want to come out! So what do you want?
The man in the studio with a black jacket speaks sense. The PA man is as senseless as his leader.
because he tolerate crme he speak sense
Just say you love crime
I knew i recognized that Thembile Botman guy from several Mzansi Bioskop films and series's.
Our government suppose to lock in this gentleman I think he knows something he is the one who recruited this people for the zama zama I think this guy is a big fish
EFF mumbling as always
@@elkaydivine Mumbling he says,EFF said nationalization of mines,y'all said EFF enemy number one,because DA masters said it 1st,and now they're mumbling as always your thinking small does not serve the world.
governments should not help just to send a clear message that if they keep doing this no one will help them in times like this.
This channel is starting to be sensationalist
No one is talking about how dangeras illegal miners r. Women were violated a year or so ago. They fight amongst themselves
Force of gravity must apply , the went down 1000 plus kilometers down an they must come up , why u want to be assisted to come up , yhoo that's crazy
Europeans have been illegally mining for ions... Poor state of affairs
Because of that, we must normalize criminality.
The government must nationalize all the mines
How they cant even run a mere village or small town
Coz whats the use why go to prison for picking up waste?? Those are abandoned mines
Going at it in the wrong way wanting to fight crime from the bottom up. If you catch and prosecute the top layer, then the middle and bottom layers will fall away automatically. But we do not have the appetite to take on the top layers as that is where the politically connected are.
Were the abandoned mine shafts made safe and secure? NO so who the owner is they along with Government should address the matter and put in measures to make them safe and seal them to prevent entry making them secure. Just like a problem property and illegal occupation. It is due to the abondonment and lack of management that all hell breaks loose. Take ownership of securing properties interms of owners and our security and safety, health and safety and disaster management governmental departments should be there to save the lives and then measures need to be put in place to ensure the ownes secure the abandoned mines to prevent injury be it illegal mining, sink holes or other due to un managed property.
Stop. Finger pointing we are hungry
Criminality is a choice. I'm very hungry, haven't been employed in years now but I'm never going to start robbing, stealing or dealing with illegal tradings.
if he says those people have experience of mining, there's 12 years kids in there do they have experience mxm
Is it safe for the retrievers to go down there?
Funny that the white man is against rescuing those illegal miners. Well i don't blame him hes a European and he doesn't know Ubuntu
What about the MITTAL STEAL AT Vanderbilpark they are facing same problem . Illegal immigrants they brake in everyday there to steal copper using shafts underneath the factory. Some spend days inside factory cutting cables and they are also armed. Is a problem for Mittal steal.