Bonhams found this Vincent HRD Black Lightning in a shed

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  • Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
  • In this video we speak with Bill To and Alan Cathcart about this very rare find, a 1948 Vincent HRD Series C Black Lightning (998cc).
    This bike as well as many others will be offered for sale in the Bonhams Spring Sale at The International Classic MotorCycle Show, Stafford, UK. The date of the auction will be 20 / 21 April 2024.
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    - Alan Cathcart for taking the time to film with us.
    - Kel Edge and Alan Cathercart for supplying us with the photos to include in this video.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 97

  • @aumkar2
    @aumkar2 9 місяців тому +14

    Unbelievable! Phil Irving and Phil Vincent, the greatest duo ever!
    A Vincent! One day, one day!

  • @my2cents395
    @my2cents395 9 місяців тому +65

    I just looked in my shed, just disappointment.

    • @jjnewman65
      @jjnewman65 9 місяців тому +3

      😢

    • @Russell_and_Rosko
      @Russell_and_Rosko 9 місяців тому +9

      I just opened my wallet...two moths flew out.

    • @hulking_presence
      @hulking_presence 9 місяців тому +2

      These guys found it and you didn't because in their case someone put the bike into the shed in the first place

    • @ianhoyle8459
      @ianhoyle8459 9 місяців тому +1

      I don’t need to look lol 🥹

    • @vincentl.9469
      @vincentl.9469 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Russell_and_Rosko some have sold for £100K or more-but you need to find the right buyer at the right time. often they dont sell for anywhere near what people ask for

  • @louischannel7008
    @louischannel7008 8 місяців тому +8

    Man this makes me cry. For family reasons I had to sell my Vincent many years ago. I am 80 now still miss it. Best bike I’ve owned. 120 mph in 3rd with my wife on the back in NZ. ❤😂😂😂

    • @MHLivestreams
      @MHLivestreams 8 місяців тому

      I feel your pain, fella.

    • @UrsulavonB
      @UrsulavonB 4 місяці тому +1

      120 mph sitting straight up!!! I spent hours sitting in front of my dad on the Vincent...Foor pegs would drag laid over in curves shooting sparks!!!
      The bike was sold for $300 - $400.00 circa 1956. Most previous owners would scare 😱 😨 themselves and sell the bike.

  • @davidrohlader3498
    @davidrohlader3498 8 місяців тому +4

    In early 1959, i was offered a 1938 Rudge TT 500, but at 5ft 10 inches, i could not touch the ground. Later thet year, i was helping a friend work on his 1949 Rapide, which had Lightning cams, carbs, straight pipes and a racing seat on a D series seat mount which put all the weight on the springs, which were sidecar springs, and in 1970 i owned this bike. In between, i bought one in 1961 out of and add in the paper. That was a 1951 C series Shadow. When i bought the Rapide from my friend, the deal included a 1953 Shadow in crates. Later sold both to a man who had a set of Brampton forks for the B series Rapide, completely restored it and won trophys at Vincent rallies.

  • @papachis9535
    @papachis9535 7 місяців тому +4

    During 1985, a friend of mine bought an old Rover 3.5 Coupe. We were around Swansea and cruised it all over the Gower and between Port Talbot and Swansea. On one occasion, blasting between Port Talbot and Swansea on the collector, we spied a speck in the rear view mirror. It was advancing, so we hit the gas. Very shortly a person on a bike passed us whilst we were at full throttle. We eventually caught it at some traffic lights. It was a Vincent.

  • @mickeycrilly1839
    @mickeycrilly1839 9 місяців тому +10

    I have wanted this bike since I was a little boy I am 62 soon and still can’t afford it I also named my first dog Vincent and he was the nearest I ever got ha ha

    • @kdsowen2882
      @kdsowen2882 9 місяців тому +1

      My Dad had a Rapide in Britain , I own a bike the Japanese made after buying and stripping a Vincent ; A Yamaha TR1 XV1000 chain-drive ( TR1 = Touring Roadster 1000 ), which eventually-led to the shaft-drive Virago-Cruisers and The-Current Yamaha V-Star series of bikes . My bike has the mono-style shock and swing-arm , plus miniscule-frame bolted to the heads . They really-did copy a lot . Dave nz

  • @Splitscreen83
    @Splitscreen83 8 місяців тому +2

    Vincent. Absolutely spectacular. That kind of performance in 1950!!! Unreal 😎👍

  • @pemj7360
    @pemj7360 8 місяців тому +1

    My dad had one of these during the 60s. He said handled like a bag of nails and you had to book an appointment to stop at the end of the road . But he loved it . If he only knew then what he knows now lol

  • @bradkorando
    @bradkorando 9 місяців тому +5

    What a fantastic bike. Thanks for producing this video of it. I can't wait to see what it brings at auction.

  • @peterlarsen7779
    @peterlarsen7779 2 місяці тому +1

    My very first bike was a '66 Velocette MSS. I paid £1500 for it. It couldn't start, but dad worked on it and got it sorted. I enjoyed the bike though I _did_ have problems with it's clutch thanks to it's design.
    My biggest dream was to save up for a Vincent. At the time (the mid-80s) a Rapide could be bought for around £7000, and a Shadow for around £12.500. My mum told me, "if you buy another one of those old pieces of junk, you can find somewhere else to live!" I was just an apprentice at the time, soooo 🤷😞😞😞😞 I always regretted that! I was fortunate once to catch a glimpse of rither a Comet or Meteor go by with its distinctive exhaust note...

  • @garyprince2867
    @garyprince2867 9 місяців тому +7

    Thanks so much, what a great bike! Good to see Alan Cathcart - maybe conduct a long-form interview with him on his motorcycling life sometime? PS. There is a Lightning in a nearby Sydney motorcycle shop, with amazing patina!

    • @Vince1266
      @Vince1266 8 місяців тому

      What shop, I am in Sydney. I couldn't think of any likely shops I know.

  • @deepindercheema4917
    @deepindercheema4917 3 місяці тому +1

    The Black Lightning was knocked down at about £130,000 at Stafford in April '24. With fees and Vat on the 15% premium it came to about £149,000. I think that it was a great price for the winner considering the excellent history.

  • @tednruth453
    @tednruth453 8 місяців тому +6

    "That's a fine motorbike"

  • @Patshes
    @Patshes 8 місяців тому +3

    The rear suspension looks very advanced for is age. Cool find! 🆒😎👍!

  • @mickgerard6696
    @mickgerard6696 9 місяців тому +4

    What a machine. What a story!

  • @toasty1182
    @toasty1182 9 місяців тому +4

    Great bike. Great film again chaps. 👏👏👏

  • @MegaTubescreamer
    @MegaTubescreamer 9 місяців тому +3

    whaat a machine and what a great tale , its an excellent
    homecoming too ! great video 👍

  • @lilianecasner3336
    @lilianecasner3336 9 місяців тому +3

    When I was 16 in 1961 at the bottom of are housing estate this fella had a Vincent combination,daily ride I used to sit and look at and think what a strange machine,I had a Norman sports,great times

  • @user-ot7fc8jo8x
    @user-ot7fc8jo8x 8 місяців тому +2

    Outrageously awesome! A fantastical dream 👍👌👏

  • @MHLivestreams
    @MHLivestreams 8 місяців тому +1

    Any British biker's dream. What a beauty.

  • @jackberglund309
    @jackberglund309 8 місяців тому +2

    I have a 1950 Black Shadow actually built in 1949 and it has a plain timimg side cover and a HRD transfer on the steering head.

  • @davesmith8568
    @davesmith8568 9 місяців тому +10

    Lovely bike for a moment thought it may have been Richard Thompsons 1952😂

    • @paulstokes393
      @paulstokes393 9 місяців тому +4

      Red Molly is still thrashing it around 😅

    • @davesmith8568
      @davesmith8568 8 місяців тому +2

      @@paulstokes393 she had better be

    • @steveaylward9412
      @steveaylward9412 28 днів тому

      Red hair and black leather....

  • @markmathews6876
    @markmathews6876 9 місяців тому +5

    so many Australian connections tied into these Vincents

    • @kdsowen2882
      @kdsowen2882 9 місяців тому +3

      The Two Greatest V-Twins ever-built came from 'Down-Under' : The Vincent and The Britten V-1000

    • @markmathews6876
      @markmathews6876 9 місяців тому

      & not just the engines , the frames are also superb ,such a shame we lost Britten so early @@kdsowen2882

  • @nickrider5220
    @nickrider5220 4 місяці тому

    Alan Cathcart really knows his Vincents - wonderful information 🍻 The term icon is overused, the Black Shadow and Lightning are true icons ❤

  • @chrislaunders8283
    @chrislaunders8283 9 місяців тому +2

    Interesting seeing Alan Cathcart riding the Ehret Ligntning, the front suspension is so supple, nothing like a standard Vincent which is pretty rigid unless a lot of work has been done to it.

  • @AlbertDongler
    @AlbertDongler 9 місяців тому +6

    Want! (but can't afford)

  • @user-iy6de7qi1r
    @user-iy6de7qi1r 6 місяців тому

    I've got a book, "A Vincent in the Barn" on mu shelf, that's about as close as I get to a Vincent these days. I've seen a couple in bike shows over the past years, three maybe four. Always a pleasure! Thanks.

  • @bobe3250
    @bobe3250 8 місяців тому

    Love the sound it makes!! Bet those riders back then had a blast

  • @eddiebradford1571
    @eddiebradford1571 9 місяців тому +2

    That’s my other shed!!🤣😉 Great video guys and beautiful bike😍👍

  • @Charlie-Oooooo
    @Charlie-Oooooo 5 місяців тому

    Imagine finding this in a barn! What a dream!!!❤

  • @maskedavenger2578
    @maskedavenger2578 8 місяців тому +2

    Looks like a proper motorcycle 👍

  • @fredflint1797
    @fredflint1797 8 місяців тому

    Great article by Phil Vincent in Sport Quarterly (1970 I believe). He explained why he chose the v-twin configuration, side- by- side rods, dual carbs, and much more. I learned a lot as a youngster from his well thought out design and explanation. Still refer to his logic often, and I regret loaning that magazine out..

  • @zebop917
    @zebop917 5 місяців тому

    You only have to say the name of the bike and it sends a shiver down your spine.

  • @ringo196
    @ringo196 8 місяців тому

    The BEST V TWIN bike engine EVER made 🇬🇧

  • @nickyfield137
    @nickyfield137 8 місяців тому

    Those pipes. Just two simple curves but perfect

  • @mickhardstaff6605
    @mickhardstaff6605 9 місяців тому +2

    December 1949 my birthday , what a preasent 😅

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 8 місяців тому +2

    Best barn find I had was a CB 400/4 .... hoping for a Vincent but a mint 10.k honda was a great for 175 quid push it away .new battery and plugs and away she went ....... keep hunting people!

    • @MHLivestreams
      @MHLivestreams 8 місяців тому

      400/4 is quite the classic now, pretty revvy little machine, well done, fella! I got a 95 gsxr 750 for £400 a few years back.. Have a great day.

  • @Steeps1969
    @Steeps1969 8 місяців тому +1

    Superb!

  • @dilligaf700
    @dilligaf700 2 місяці тому

    Sean Rowe sang a song about this bike. It's called "Vincent black lightning". Check it out you might like it.

  • @nihilmiror6312
    @nihilmiror6312 8 місяців тому +2

    So, actually the owner found Bonhams. 🤔

  • @collyernicholasjohn
    @collyernicholasjohn 9 місяців тому +3

    Pipes r unreal. 150mph for a naked air cooled twin? 😳

  • @truethought369
    @truethought369 Місяць тому

    That Vincent is gorgeous, and having strait throughs, Carbs & Exhausts, "well", it would be criminal, too stifle it !
    I just like older British bikes, "fore strokes" rather than two strokes, but I would not turn my nose up at a water cooled Scott?

  • @stuartcarter3649
    @stuartcarter3649 8 місяців тому

    Just checked my shed also, haaaa my Harley is still there !!👍🇦🇺👍

  • @ScottishTeeVee
    @ScottishTeeVee 6 місяців тому

    30 odd years ago, I was standing at a bus stop in Falkirk, I had just dropped by motorbike off for an MOT at Jim Allans Motorcycles. I was standing with my bike helmet etc and a very old lady asked where my bike was, I explained, she listened. Then she says, "I have a motorbike in my shed, it was my husbands. He was killed on in many years ago, the handlebars are bent, but not much more damage, I keep it as he loved it" after a bit of chat I asked what kind of motorbike it was "A Vincent Black Shadow.." Even 30 odd years ago, I said to her that it must be worth a few thousand, but she said it would never be sold. She will be long dead now, but I often wonder what happened to her husband's motorbike.

  • @stephenharper9754
    @stephenharper9754 8 місяців тому +1

    I noyice that the bike featured has the normal Black Shadow cylinder heads with 1 carburettor on the right and 1 on the left of the bike. Whereas most of the historical photo's and film show thw 2 caburettors on the left of the bike. My brother owned a Comet 500 back in the 60's and had 2 friends 1 with a Shadow and the other with a Rapide both of which had the carburettors 1 either side. I remember talks of using 2 front cylinder head to improve power, which would have meant both carb's being on the left of the bike. Therefore is this bike really a Black Lightening? Regards Steve Harper

  • @NedKelly1967
    @NedKelly1967 8 місяців тому

    My Grandad had a HRD 😊 and a Matchless 500 single

  • @wighatsuperreggie
    @wighatsuperreggie 9 місяців тому +2

    Strange. They cut to the factory where it was tuned. And the mechanic looks just like the interviewer...

  • @theodavies8754
    @theodavies8754 4 місяці тому

    13:1 isn't something I would try but the dynamic psi would make it near impossible to start warm. I did 155 on a naked bike in 1990 and it was nothing like the achievement of 150 40 years before. 200 with a fairing doesn't compare.

  • @galwegan4081
    @galwegan4081 8 місяців тому +1

    i ran outside to look in my shed , dont even have a shed .. sad day

  • @plunder1956
    @plunder1956 8 місяців тому

    Must be a nice shed.

  • @user-cg7kr9gy6n
    @user-cg7kr9gy6n 9 місяців тому +1

    Is that an artillery shell standing behind them?

  • @jfu5222
    @jfu5222 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice, but it's everyone's favorite. I'm more contrarian, give me a Cyclone or Flying Merkel racer for my unobtainable dream machine.

  • @bryn494
    @bryn494 8 місяців тому

    Just nipped to the shed to get a screwdriver and... :D

  • @charlesphillips8635
    @charlesphillips8635 8 місяців тому +2

    And someone will pay a kings ransom for and it’ll never see the light of day again, let alone ride it!

  • @Cloudberry46
    @Cloudberry46 9 місяців тому +2

    I would have thought that a 1949 Vin would have HRD on the timing side casing?

    • @deepindercheema4917
      @deepindercheema4917 9 місяців тому +1

      I have to listen again but I think Mr Cathercart? mentions magnesium engine castings. If this is the case then Vincent already had diecast tooling ready. Mr Harper thought the same when he first saw it in Poland.

    • @pashakdescilly7517
      @pashakdescilly7517 9 місяців тому

      Late 1949 machines were made as Vincents, not HRD.

    • @pashakdescilly7517
      @pashakdescilly7517 9 місяців тому

      ​@@deepindercheema4917 Vincent did not make magnesium castings for the Lightning, apart from brake plates.

    • @deepindercheema4917
      @deepindercheema4917 9 місяців тому

      @@pashakdescilly7517 That makes better sense by getting mass and the CoG into the centre of the bicycle as per the book Motorcycle Engineering by P.E.Irving. The plates having screwed in scoops into the flat castings makes sense.

    • @pashakdescilly7517
      @pashakdescilly7517 9 місяців тому

      @@deepindercheema4917 These days you can get replica engine castings from various sources. At least one outfit makes a full set of magnesium engine castings.

  • @ThrottleAddiction
    @ThrottleAddiction 7 місяців тому

    I think the estimate is a bit under-priced.

  • @boataxe4605
    @boataxe4605 8 місяців тому

    I can’t believe that it was legal to ride a motorcycle without a headlight.

    • @wainstones7381
      @wainstones7381 7 місяців тому +2

      It still is if you have a daytime mot only.

  • @AaaaandAction
    @AaaaandAction 8 місяців тому

    12:37 I notice what appears to be a driven sprocket both sides of the rear wheel, can anyone explain this or am I seeing things?

    • @toasty1182
      @toasty1182 8 місяців тому

      That’s one size for solo then flip the wheel round for a different gearing for side car work 👍

    • @AaaaandAction
      @AaaaandAction 8 місяців тому

      @@toasty1182 Genius 🤪🤪🤪 thanks. Clearly no rotation direction tyres in those days.

  • @ldnwholesale8552
    @ldnwholesale8552 Місяць тому

    Fastest, you just need to wear bathers to go that fast

  • @wiscgaloot
    @wiscgaloot 8 місяців тому

    Very sweet but not street legal and I expect it has no kickstart, has to be started with an external motor like most race bikes.

  • @thatdudeinorange5269
    @thatdudeinorange5269 8 місяців тому

    This Vincent, and a B.R.M.V16 and nothing more is needed in a shed?
    Well maybe some barrels of methanol..

  • @zoltankaparthy9095
    @zoltankaparthy9095 8 місяців тому

    Real iron

  • @kernowman7140
    @kernowman7140 8 місяців тому

    Never to be ridden hard again poor thing .

    • @MHLivestreams
      @MHLivestreams 8 місяців тому

      I would be tempted to ask China to reproduce it!

  • @Aut0five
    @Aut0five 3 місяці тому +1

    anyone know what the hammer price was?

  • @tonydoggett7627
    @tonydoggett7627 8 місяців тому +1

    If you like motorcycles like this, put a air cooled desmo Ducati in your shed for the future. 🦘🇦🇺

  • @phoenixfox3379
    @phoenixfox3379 23 дні тому

    If I ever ever own a bike company, Gonna put 10 of every model in a climate controlled warehouse and make my grand kids filthy rich.