Most eager awaited community project for me the last couple of month. Even when I couldn’t contribute to it, I’m looking forward to the next video. A LOT! 🥳💪 keep it up, man! 👏
@@sense-of-speed 😂 I’m all about striving for the best possible, be it myself or FOV settings! 😎 you are doing a great job here; plus your voice adds that extra layer of a documentary narrator! 👏
I have been looking forward to the next video for two months. It seemed like it may be days, or weeks…but now I’m worried about Sense of Speed. Let us know how you’re doing!
As someone who is constantly tweaking my fov and tinkering to find something that feels "right" I am looking forward to trying something someone has put a ton of effort into. Thank you for all the hard work!
@@sense-of-speed Can't wait! I'm hoping it's as eye opening as finding those settings that work just right on my DD wheel. A few setting tweaks can make ALL the difference!
I notice in your onboard videos you drive most cars a way where you dont release the throttle completely is this realistic and what are the reasons for doing this? I notice when you change down get you never go completely off throttle
It depends on the vehicle. In this video there are plenty of times I am completely of throttle but yes, it is realistic. Using both pedals in tandem allows me to balance the weight of the car and maintain some downforce in cars that have it. After years of driving it's something I don't even pay attention to anymore. It becomes part of instinct and just happens.
Hello I like the video en the way explained it. Just a question. You saying in the other video your fov is 169 in iracing its 179. Thats r rating changing the fov. I om on 27 inch 1500 r curved monitor. 610 with. So i must put the r to 610 in iracing en keep the distance 540mm so its correct am i missing somting? When i put it to like 200 fov its feels more reel??
@Sense of Speed any news mate I’ve been holding off redoing my set up waiting for this video as we all I have I believe Hoping all is well with you as we haven’t heard anything for 3 months or more?
Yeah I don't know, I still try to increase my "scale of the world setting" Tried to increase the monitor size value as you suggested in a comment in one of your last videos and it literally changes nothing. The size on the picture displayed on the monitors stays the same. I'm on triple flat screens at 66° angle and 199 FOV. the size of the cabin looks fine, but the road looks to narrow.
i saw your other comment last night but haven't replied yet. I'll reply here. in Iracing, on flat settings changing the monitor width does add distance to the track when driving but, you don't see the size of the image change. In the next video I will outline changes that can be made in a better way. In the mean time. For your setup and to do anything effective you are honestly too close to your monitors. Regardless of what you see in calculators or read, the minimum eye distance should be 600 to 635mm. Anything less goes against our spatial reasoning and vision. At 47 cm your mid peripheral vision is using more of the center monitor and we are limited by the small monitor size of 27". On a monitor that small I think an fov of 180 to 186 will be about the limit. I don't have all the information on 27 inch monitors yet. In the original video I was discussing a concept and theory based on 32 inch monitors. It was never meant as a guide.
@@sense-of-speed I experimented a bit, and increasing the value for monitor-width actually works! I just didn't realize by how much I have to increase it. Im at 15000(!) now and it finally starts to look decent. I was going in increments of 100 mm before, and didn't notice any difference because my increments were to small. Now the track widens up and it doesn't look like i drive on a miniature racetrack anymore. I'm sure that I can go even further, and I think I will end up somewhere between 15000 and 20000 mm (my monitor is with bezels 609mm wide btw.) The value for the bezels needed to be adjusted though. It's at 30 mm now, which already includes the compensation for the bezel free kit) Decreasing the FOV didn't work for now, because the dash startet to look warped. If I decrease the FOV, I would actually have to physically decrease my monitor angle from 66° to whatever equals to a FOV of 180 to 186, like you suggested. This of course is all subjective, but now I can actually position my car on the track, in a way that feels much more natural to me.
Big up ones more :D and I am veryyy curious for your final! Yeahhhh, FOV adjustments hunt me now for over 20 years. Recently on my single 65'' @85 fov and still the feeling it is not what it should be :D but its pretty decent for now. :D And yep, iR is also my only sim to ride. My spare part is finally there. Nobsound G2 arrived to fire up again my buttkicker gamer 2 under my seat. It feels more detailed with the new amp :D (iR LFE settings are finally pretty good - have to check the hapiConntect software). Keep smiling Kevin and family :D Have fun, life is short ;) Greetings from the sunny Baltic Sea :)
There is a lot of distortion from the bezel free kits, most noticeable in turns as the trees pass across them. You have a nicely balanced FOV / POV and sense of speed, if you can tweak the distortion it would be perfect.
@@sense-of-speed Recommend you consider trying the 32:9 57" Samsung monitor combined with tobii 5 eye/headtracker. You basically get a "windscreen like experience" with its dual 4K but with much increased pixel density over using 4K Tvs as this monitor offers increased density with 140PPI. Thats a big difference over 1440p based monitors/displays. The Tobii can be set up to work with "opentrack" software. This brings a VR esq type experience, on a display that has improved image quality to many monitors, with a large sharp,bright screen which fills the users FOV. Doing so with no annoying bezels or added distortion. It REALLY has some potential and benefits over budget/mid priced triple screen setups or applying oversized, triple TV based configurations.
I'm having a lot of issues with my 32" curved monitors. I need to set the angle at 65+ in order for the bezel free get to function, or I would still see the bezel and at 65+ the monitors becomes very boxy and it's hard to get in and out of the rig. I hope you can address this issue
@@sense-of-speedI’m still rebuilding me rig at the new place of living. Went with 60degree angles now, 63cm away from center. Slapped the bezel kit on last night and will fine tune it this week. Can’t wait to be back in the cockpit. Any tips how I can calibrate my LG32GP850? I’m just using pretty much default settings. Have a good week, mate! 😊👋
Yes, it has. I have been waiting very patiently on a interesting debated topic. In the end. It will go something like.... well it all comes down to personal preference.
FOV/POV goals! Nice work! Looks amazing 👏 🤩
Thanks, buddy. It feels pretty good too.
Most eager awaited community project for me the last couple of month. Even when I couldn’t contribute to it, I’m looking forward to the next video. A LOT! 🥳💪 keep it up, man! 👏
Too much pressure, Tony! I'm all about low expectations.
@@sense-of-speed 😂 I’m all about striving for the best possible, be it myself or FOV settings! 😎 you are doing a great job here; plus your voice adds that extra layer of a documentary narrator! 👏
I have been looking forward to the next video for two months. It seemed like it may be days, or weeks…but now I’m worried about Sense of Speed.
Let us know how you’re doing!
Thanks, man. It will be live tonight. Update on my wall as to why.
@@sense-of-speed yesssss
This looks insane! Really nicely done
Thanks buddy!
As someone who is constantly tweaking my fov and tinkering to find something that feels "right" I am looking forward to trying something someone has put a ton of effort into. Thank you for all the hard work!
Thanks. I'll have lots of Iracing tinkering for you to do. Lol
@@sense-of-speed Can't wait! I'm hoping it's as eye opening as finding those settings that work just right on my DD wheel. A few setting tweaks can make ALL the difference!
Can’t wait, in the video could you please indicate approx settings for a single 48 inch flat 16/9? Many thanks
Some of what I do with iracing will work, but I won't have a lot of info on single screens.
Got to do a few laps in a radical last summer and that is pretty much the view you have when driving.
Great Job Kevin 👍🏻 looks fantastic
Thanks. It's such a fun car. I actually had a guy drive the fov who drove one at VIR. He was quite impressed as well.
I notice in your onboard videos you drive most cars a way where you dont release the throttle completely is this realistic and what are the reasons for doing this? I notice when you change down get you never go completely off throttle
It depends on the vehicle. In this video there are plenty of times I am completely of throttle but yes, it is realistic. Using both pedals in tandem allows me to balance the weight of the car and maintain some downforce in cars that have it. After years of driving it's something I don't even pay attention to anymore. It becomes part of instinct and just happens.
How’s it coming along friend?
Live tonight. Sorry for the delay. Update on my wall.
Looks amazing! Looking forward to the FoV video and maybe I can finally get mined dialed like yours!
Thanks. I hope I can help you out!
@@sense-of-speed I think we have very similar monitors (if not the same ones) so I think you will.
@@DSaw78 aoc 165hz .1ms 1440?
@@sense-of-speedyep that’s them!
Good stuff. I'm working on the video now. Buckle up. It's a bit long. Lol
Hello
I like the video en the way explained it. Just a question. You saying in the other video your fov is 169 in iracing its 179. Thats r rating changing the fov. I om on 27 inch 1500 r curved monitor. 610 with. So i must put the r to 610 in iracing en keep the distance 540mm so its correct am i missing somting?
When i put it to like 200 fov its feels more reel??
Is there a Discord, Patreon or anything else for us to follow this a bit more closely?
Looks great as always! Thanks for your effort
Thanks, buddy!
@Sense of Speed any news mate I’ve been holding off redoing my set up waiting for this video as we all I have I believe
Hoping all is well with you as we haven’t heard anything for 3 months or more?
It's rendering and uploading now, buddy. Update on my community wall. I hurt myself pretty bad.
I very much look forward to this when it is released.
Thanks, Dave!
nice! can you tell me what wheel that is? from where?
Simedal xgt lambo wheel without the decal.
Look forward to your next videos and findings.
Can't wait man :) It's going to be superb!
Thanks. But, I'm all about low expectations. It's too much pressure. lol
Yeah I don't know, I still try to increase my "scale of the world setting" Tried to increase the monitor size value as you suggested in a comment in one of your last videos and it literally changes nothing. The size on the picture displayed on the monitors stays the same. I'm on triple flat screens at 66° angle and 199 FOV. the size of the cabin looks fine, but the road looks to narrow.
i saw your other comment last night but haven't replied yet. I'll reply here. in Iracing, on flat settings changing the monitor width does add distance to the track when driving but, you don't see the size of the image change. In the next video I will outline changes that can be made in a better way. In the mean time.
For your setup and to do anything effective you are honestly too close to your monitors. Regardless of what you see in calculators or read, the minimum eye distance should be 600 to 635mm. Anything less goes against our spatial reasoning and vision. At 47 cm your mid peripheral vision is using more of the center monitor and we are limited by the small monitor size of 27". On a monitor that small I think an fov of 180 to 186 will be about the limit.
I don't have all the information on 27 inch monitors yet. In the original video I was discussing a concept and theory based on 32 inch monitors. It was never meant as a guide.
@@sense-of-speed Thank you for the comment and your assessment. I can't afford 32 inch monitors right now.
@@sense-of-speed I experimented a bit, and increasing the value for monitor-width actually works! I just didn't realize by how much I have to increase it. Im at 15000(!) now and it finally starts to look decent. I was going in increments of 100 mm before, and didn't notice any difference because my increments were to small. Now the track widens up and it doesn't look like i drive on a miniature racetrack anymore. I'm sure that I can go even further, and I think I will end up somewhere between 15000 and 20000 mm (my monitor is with bezels 609mm wide btw.) The value for the bezels needed to be adjusted though. It's at 30 mm now, which already includes the compensation for the bezel free kit) Decreasing the FOV didn't work for now, because the dash startet to look warped. If I decrease the FOV, I would actually have to physically decrease my monitor angle from 66° to whatever equals to a FOV of 180 to 186, like you suggested. This of course is all subjective, but now I can actually position my car on the track, in a way that feels much more natural to me.
So you're using the flat screen settings? Also, what is the distance between your side monitors? I can give you something else to try.
Wow amazing results; anything here for VR folks?
Thanks. Some of it will be applicable. We did do a little testing.
R U Ok?
Big up ones more :D and I am veryyy curious for your final! Yeahhhh, FOV adjustments hunt me now for over 20 years. Recently on my single 65'' @85 fov and still the feeling it is not what it should be :D but its pretty decent for now. :D And yep, iR is also my only sim to ride.
My spare part is finally there. Nobsound G2 arrived to fire up again my buttkicker gamer 2 under my seat. It feels more detailed with the new amp :D (iR LFE settings are finally pretty good - have to check the hapiConntect software).
Keep smiling Kevin and family :D Have fun, life is short ;) Greetings from the sunny Baltic Sea :)
After analysing your fov videos & testing over the last days I am quite happy now with my new FOV/POV: single screen 65'' @78 fov :D 👍
Coming back after a few days break my new fov of 78° felt a bit too close. New fov 80° drives nicer . :D
Still bit too close. Now with 82° ;D
Down to 81° ;D
There is a lot of distortion from the bezel free kits, most noticeable in turns as the trees pass across them. You have a nicely balanced FOV / POV and sense of speed, if you can tweak the distortion it would be perfect.
The camera makes it look worse than it is but unfortunately it is nature of the beast with curved monitors ,and settings won't eliminate it all.
@@sense-of-speed Recommend you consider trying the 32:9 57" Samsung monitor combined with tobii 5 eye/headtracker.
You basically get a "windscreen like experience" with its dual 4K but with much increased pixel density over using 4K Tvs as this monitor offers increased density with 140PPI. Thats a big difference over 1440p based monitors/displays. The Tobii can be set up to work with "opentrack" software. This brings a VR esq type experience, on a display that has improved image quality to many monitors, with a large sharp,bright screen which fills the users FOV. Doing so with no annoying bezels or added distortion. It REALLY has some potential and benefits over budget/mid priced triple screen setups or applying oversized, triple TV based configurations.
You're such a tease!
hahaha. I know, man. I'm trying not to be.
those bezel free kit is invisible :o how ????
I have my monitors at 65 degrees at the arm for less space between the kit and the monitor as well as calibrated colors and brightness.
I'm having a lot of issues with my 32" curved monitors. I need to set the angle at 65+ in order for the bezel free get to function, or I would still see the bezel and at 65+ the monitors becomes very boxy and it's hard to get in and out of the rig. I hope you can address this issue
@@sense-of-speedI’m still rebuilding me rig at the new place of living. Went with 60degree angles now, 63cm away from center. Slapped the bezel kit on last night and will fine tune it this week. Can’t wait to be back in the cockpit. Any tips how I can calibrate my LG32GP850? I’m just using pretty much default settings. Have a good week, mate! 😊👋
ITS BEEN A MONTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Yes, it has. I have been waiting very patiently on a interesting debated topic. In the end. It will go something like.... well it all comes down to personal preference.
Is the video coming???
Any day now. In the middle of wrapping it up.
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@sense-of-speed emphasis on "any" ;)
The suspense is killing me! lol.
Lol. I know, man. I have way too many people waiting. The delay will make sense when I publish it. Way too much testing.
@@sense-of-speed I think I speak for all when I say take all the time you need and we appreciate the time and effort.
I’m being FOV edged 😩
hahaha. I know, man. I feel like a dirty little tease. I hope it's worth it.
Whats monitors you are using? What inches?
Aoc 32 inch 1500r 165hz